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Which is Worse Dog Fighting or Hunting for Sport? | |
| Reece2076 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 692770  China06/01/2009 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Reece2076 (OP) User ID: 692770 China06/02/2009 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 374095Off topic...I believe humans have an irrational attachment to domesticated animals to rationalize a detachment of empathy to their fellow human. Easier to love a dog than your fellow man...sad to say. That is very interesting indeed. Though it is mostly western society. The rest of the world views them all as animals, much like western society did 100 years ago or less. Of course certain cultures deem certain animals as divine outside the west. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
| mfgl User ID: 616779 United States06/02/2009 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one is for spectators, one is for dinner. go fuck yourself, if it werent for hunters there wouldnt be any game. Sportsman organizations spend more money on preservation then any other government program or any charity so put up or shut up. If it were up to the insurance companies they would kill ever single deer. It is hunters and sportsman who ensure proper husbandry so these animals can exist at all. With great success ill add. Show me where peta or other animal organization has saved a single animal, and ill show you where sportsman have saved 100. Its nice to have an opinion but if its stupid you should keep it to yourself. Gonna be a lot of hungry people of principle when the stores all close. |
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| Reece2076 (OP) User ID: 692770 China06/02/2009 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | one is for spectators, one is for dinner. go fuck yourself, if it werent for hunters there wouldnt be any game. Sportsman organizations spend more money on preservation then any other government program or any charity so put up or shut up. If it were up to the insurance companies they would kill ever single deer. It is hunters and sportsman who ensure proper husbandry so these animals can exist at all. With great success ill add. Show me where peta or other animal organization has saved a single animal, and ill show you where sportsman have saved 100. Its nice to have an opinion but if its stupid you should keep it to yourself. Quoting: mfglGonna be a lot of hungry people of principle when the stores all close. I guess you didn't read the post. I don't think someone who is hunting for dinner is the same as someone hunting for sport. Which is why I specified hunting for sport vs. dog fighting. As for the rest of your post, thanks for the information. Though it was off topic. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
| Reece2076 (OP) User ID: 692770 China06/02/2009 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and just to play by the rules and answer your post directly by the topic...you already know the answer that is why when reffering to the dog you said him/herself....but when refferring to the prey animal we will hunt you said "Itself" Quoting: mfglGood catch. That wasn't intentional. Though subconsciously I guess I also view dogs in a higher regard than other animals. I suppose for me it's because I owned over a dozen dogs throughout my childhood. One had puppies which we raised until they were old enough to be given away. Another sad practice I might add. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
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| HannibalTheCannibal User ID: 664178  United Kingdom06/02/2009 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 374095Off topic...I believe humans have an irrational attachment to domesticated animals to rationalize a detachment of empathy to their fellow human. Easier to love a dog than your fellow man...sad to say. Indeed. These people with 30 Cats or 15 little doggies are the worst. There is NO PROFIT IN PEACE, There is NO PROPHET IN PEACE. Resident GLP Religion HATER and PROUD Atheist. Carl Sagan "A celibate clergy is an especially good idea, because it tends to suppress any hereditary propensity toward fanaticism." [link to img181.imageshack.us] |
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| Enaid User ID: 515273 United States06/02/2009 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do people actually kill animals and NOT eat them? Seems like a waste of perfectly good meat. IMHO - Dog fighters should be tortured. I volunteer. Animals should be revered. -- added -- Yes, easier to love a dog than a human. Last Edited by Enaid on 06/02/2009 10:42 AM Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen. :enaid11: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 558405 United States06/02/2009 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 374095Off topic...I believe humans have an irrational attachment to domesticated animals to rationalize a detachment of empathy to their fellow human. Easier to love a dog than your fellow man...sad to say. yaeh, dogs don't act like selfish assholes |
| SickDaveMondo User ID: 512195  Canada06/02/2009 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dog fighting. I'm a dog person so my opinion is slanted I guess. Plus I think there is less suffering overall to the animal when it is shot as opposed to being ripped apart by another attack dog? Unless you a shitty shot and shoot everything in the nads I guess... SDM |
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| Enaid User ID: 515273 United States06/02/2009 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like hunting dog abusers for sport. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693073How would that be abusive? Unless you kept them in a cage all the time. Or treat them like crap - in which case you shouldn't have any animals. Dogs usually thrive when they have a mission. Like jogging with you. Or pulling a cart. Or guarding the house. Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen. :enaid11: |
| Reece2076 (OP) User ID: 692770 China06/02/2009 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do people actually kill animals and NOT eat them? Quoting: EnaidSeems like a waste of perfectly good meat. IMHO - Dog fighters should be tortured. I volunteer. Animals should be revered. -- added -- Yes, easier to love a dog than a human. Yes they kill them and have them stuffed for trophies. Or just discard the bodies. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
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| Chawlee User ID: 693002 Sweden06/02/2009 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have voted horse racing if it was a choice. Quoting: Reece2076Right.. I know you are partial to horses. We have two rescued from the track here that would have been put down,had we not taken them.After all the track abuse it's hard for them to just be a horse |
| Reece2076 (OP) User ID: 692770 China06/02/2009 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been hunting for 3 decades. I have never met a single "trophy hunter". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693073I'm almost 33 years old and I have never met a person who fights dogs, yet I know they exist. Anyways you and your hunting buddies aren't the hunters I'm referring to. I love to eat meat myself, and would be a hypocrite to criticize someone who kills for meat. As Above, So Below Work Smarter, Not Harder |
| Enaid User ID: 515273 United States06/02/2009 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would have voted horse racing if it was a choice. Quoting: ChawleeRight.. I know you are partial to horses. We have two rescued from the track here that would have been put down,had we not taken them.After all the track abuse it's hard for them to just be a horse Bless you Chawlee. You are a good soul. Personal responsibility - try it sometime. Quit blaming others for your bad choices. Consequences happen. :enaid11: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 688916 United States06/02/2009 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hunt for food. I am a very good shot. The game dies pretty quick and no suffering. The dog fight results in one dead dog and one dog that is so beat up he has to suffer for weeks on end to heal just to fight again, if the owner doesn't kill him first. Think about that for a while. |
| 14WORDS User ID: 693296 United States06/02/2009 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been hunting for 3 decades. I have never met a single "trophy hunter". Quoting: Reece2076I'm almost 33 years old and I have never met a person who fights dogs, yet I know they exist. Anyways you and your hunting buddies aren't the hunters I'm referring to. I love to eat meat myself, and would be a hypocrite to criticize someone who kills for meat. There's a third catergory of animal killing that is being overlooked. I have shot and killed animals that needed killing to protect other livestock. Coyotes, feral dogs, bobcats, raccoons, snakes, and others must be offed for the benefit of the domestic animals. As for the original question, I'm not sure. I don't do either, but I know folks who do partake. The dogmen love their dogs in their way, and the sport hunters respect the animals they take. Not in ways I am intimately familiar, to be sure, but I understand that there are different views. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
| 14WORDS User ID: 693296 United States06/02/2009 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hunt for food. I am a very good shot. The game dies pretty quick and no suffering. The dog fight results in one dead dog and one dog that is so beat up he has to suffer for weeks on end to heal just to fight again, if the owner doesn't kill him first. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688916Think about that for a while. Spoken like a man never been to a dog fight. Dogs don't die in the pit very often, rube. "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
| Leo**** User ID: 674177 Sweden06/02/2009 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have nothing against hunting, provided it is done by the book using suitable ammo for different types of prey. I consider hunting by bow, slingshot etc to cause the animals unnecessary pain and highly immoral if not necessitated by extraordinary circumstances (like there was no other option to survive, then we are not talking about "sports hunting" in the first place). In all civilized countries hunting is strictly regulated. Given the options, I believe animals that are raised in the wild and live a full life there until they eventually end up getting killed by a hunter are far more happy overall than the animals that are brought up in farms and slaughtered in an industrial manner. Dog fighting? This is forbidden in civilized countries because it causes animals to suffer without any discernible purpose whatsoever, this I'm definitely against just as ritual slaughter, bullfighting, etc. It is like hunting elephants with bow and arrow just to prove you are able to cause the death of an elephant with a bow and arrow. Brainless stupidity. People engaging in useless activities like that should be shot immediately, no questions asked. /L |
| 14WORDS User ID: 693370 United States06/02/2009 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is forbidden in civilized countries because it causes animals to suffer without any discernible purpose whatsoever, this I'm definitely against just as ritual slaughter, bullfighting, etc. Quoting: Leo**** 674177Bullfighting, really? Spain and France will be bummed to know you don't consider them "civilized". "There is no firm reason to anticipate that the intellectual capacities of peoples geographically separated in their evolution should prove to have evolved identically. Our wanting to reserve equal powers of reason as some universal heritage of humanity will not be enough to make it so." -- Nobel Prize-winner James Watson "The war is coming to the streets of America and if you are not keeping and bearing and practicing with your arms then you will be helpless and you will be the victim of evil." - Ted Nugent "Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." -Unknown |
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| _Storm_ User ID: 362931 United States06/02/2009 06:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hunting for sport? Isn't hunting something one does to put meat on the table? Otherwise it is just killing in my opinion. Killing animals for sport. Both dog fighting, and killing animals for sport are bad. The difference being one involves killing an animal that depends on you and is willing to do whatever you ask of it. Basicly both are killing an animal for sport. Last Edited by Storm* on 06/02/2009 06:04 PM |
