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Sydney Islamic school rejectedElicia Murray
June 2, 2009 - 2:24PM
The backers of an Islamic school are considering their options after a court today rejected their appeal for the school to be built in Camden.

The Land and Environment Court knocked back the Quranic Society's application to build a $19 million school for 900 students in a rural area on the outskirts of the town south-west of Sydney.

It found that the proposal was inconsistent with the objectives of the rural zone.


Sydney Islamic school rejected
Controversial plans for a large Islamic school in Camden have been rejected leaving many residents pleased with the results.
Camden City Council cited planning arguments when it first blocked the proposal a year ago.

But fierce community opposition to the project often relied on racial and religious arguments.

Commissioner Graham Brown found that the proposal was not in keeping with the rural character of the locality.


The case attracted international media attention when two pigs' heads were rammed onto metal stakes at the site, on the corner of Cawdor and Burragarong roads, in 2007.

And at the hearing in April, the council's evidence included a letter signed by four Christian churches stating that Islam espoused views that were "incompatible with the Australian way of life".

The council's legal team also presented a DVD featuring the views of concerned residents, one of whom said the school would be a "breeding ground for terrorists".

However the council insisted its refusal was based on planning grounds, arguing it was incompatible with the rural zoning and would cause problems for traffic and neighbouring farms.

Commissioner Brown addressed residents' concerns about planning matters in the judgment.

"Other matters raised by local residents as being in the 'public interest' have been given no weight in the consideration of the development application as they are irrelevant considerations," he stated in the judgment.

Outside court, the council's solicitor, Chris Shaw, tried to distance the council from blatantly anti-Muslim evidence presented in its case.

"The council was required to give a full assessment of the matters before the court and to bring to the court's attention the issues that the public felt were important," Mr Shaw said.

"The court gave it zero weight, it says in its judgement, and that was an appropriate assessment for the court to determine."

A Quranic Society spokesman, Jeremy Bingham, would not comment on whether racism drove residents' objections.


He said it was too early to say whether the group would find another site in the area.


"I do know they are all hard-working citizens who do want a good education for their children and I don't see them giving up on their objective. But where they go from here I don't know."

Keysar Trad, president of the Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said a member of The Quranic Society to whom he had spoken, who did not wish to speak to the media, was distraught over the court's decision.


"This has cost them (the society) a great deal of money already,'' he said.


"They are very distraught. They are finding it very difficult to understand the reasoning behind this decision.


"They are considering their options. They are not in a position to make any comment until they know what those options are.''


The Camden case has been the most high-profile bid to keep Islamic schools out of areas the outskirts of Sydney.

Since the Quranic Society's application was first blocked in 2007, several other applications for schools have faced strident opposition from communities on the suburban fringe.

One of the biggest Islamic schools in Australia - a 1200-student school in Bass Hill - will be built after its backers won an appeal in the Land and Environment Court last month.
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It won't be no for long. Islam isn't leaving anytime soon.
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Kevin Rudd said this a few months ago...

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..


Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs ...
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I keep thinking there will be a major pushback against Islamification in the West...it may be the last one we have

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It won't be no for long. Islam isn't leaving anytime soon.
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I can only hope they will. Islam is inconsistent with both Australian and natural law. The law of balance will soon be restored...Islam and religion are nearly finished.
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well i know some women from pakistan who have renounced islam.
smart girls.
and LOTS of men

haji birham

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get it?
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if they could just get pissed and chill they might get a root.
it is the kids who will change it all
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if they could just get pissed and chill they might get a root.
it is the kids who will change it all
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It is all in their hands.
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It won't be no for long. Islam isn't leaving anytime soon.


I can only hope they will. Islam is inconsistent with both Australian and natural law. The law of balance will soon be restored...Islam and religion are nearly finished.
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Islam is inconsistent with "natural law"? You need to expand on that.
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It won't be no for long. Islam isn't leaving anytime soon.


I can only hope they will. Islam is inconsistent with both Australian and natural law. The law of balance will soon be restored...Islam and religion are nearly finished.


Islam is inconsistent with "natural law"? You need to expand on that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683959


Because Islam is inherently sexist, nature is not sexist...in fact I would suggest that nature promotes the female sex in many ways.

We haven't always been sexist, patriarchal...it's just part of the cycle.
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Gosh - here's an idea:

If you move to another country, you live as though you are there, not trying to re-create your country of origin! If I move to Japan, I have to learn Japanese, not insist that the Japanese all learn English.

Ever take a look at the laws on immigration to Saudi Arabia or Egypt? You are immediately put into a separate category if you are NOT Muslim! You are REQUIRED to take classes on Islamic law and are treated under a separate set of laws.

Same with Mexico. You can't get a visa to work or visit long term without being able to speak, read and write Spanish.

But when you want them to live by the standards of the country they are living in... holy shit. Break out the law suits.

To the Aussies - good on yah!
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thank allah for australia and their anti-PC ways
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Gosh - here's an idea:

If you move to another country, you live as though you are there, not trying to re-create your country of origin! If I move to Japan, I have to learn Japanese, not insist that the Japanese all learn English.

Ever take a look at the laws on immigration to Saudi Arabia or Egypt? You are immediately put into a separate category if you are NOT Muslim! You are REQUIRED to take classes on Islamic law and are treated under a separate set of laws.

Same with Mexico. You can't get a visa to work or visit long term without being able to speak, read and write Spanish.

But when you want them to live by the standards of the country they are living in... holy shit. Break out the law suits.

To the Aussies - good on yah!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 533031

hf

We will only have ourselves to blame if "PC" allows Islam to dictate their own terms in foreign countries.
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I used to live at Camden and the people out there are your real true blue aussie patriots. Believe me if the school had been approved, there would have been rioting in the streets.

Aussies don't like nor trust these people and I don't blame them. They hate us and anyone who isn't islamic.

These muslims want to take over the whole of bloody Sydney.
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"If you move to another country, you live as though you are there"


wel said and simple too.
i am a type of wog as well, and most of us do as you so correctly sugggest with some notable exceptions.

it is a matter of repaying the generosity of the kangaroo.
it is- true blue!

but you KNOW them lil chicks in the western burbs will not obey papa- haji or not!
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ya- dam good feller here
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Kevin Rudd said this a few months ago...

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..


Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs ...
 Quoting: Mr. Whitey


Sorry mate...but K Rudd never said that, it's the text from a viral email doing the rounds, nothing more.
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Just waiting now for the Moozies to start rioting and bashing aussies.
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I used to live at Camden and the people out there are your real true blue aussie patriots. Believe me if the school had been approved, there would have been rioting in the streets.

Aussies don't like nor trust these people and I don't blame them. They hate us and anyone who isn't islamic.

These muslims want to take over the whole of bloody Sydney.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 676589


Yeah...I know a few and your assessment is spot on, not my cup of tea...but Aussie as you like.
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there are some kinda--- different ----christian fundies where i live.
the femmes get round in a quasi 19th century garb

they look cranky!

hehe
why do they all want to oppress the WOMEN??

too lazy to work them blokes
so they opress the women!

and
they dont even DRINK!
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I used to live at Camden and the people out there are your real true blue aussie patriots. Believe me if the school had been approved, there would have been rioting in the streets.

Aussies don't like nor trust these people and I don't blame them. They hate us and anyone who isn't islamic.

These muslims want to take over the whole of bloody Sydney.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 676589


Goofy Sheik Hillaly hasn't really given Australia a positive feeling bout Islam!

Last Edited by JADR on 06/02/2009 04:02 AM
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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my dentist is a pakistani woman
she is right on to the bullshit and speaks frankly.
got a sparkle in her eye.
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sheikh hilaly is as big a wanker as the pope
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Kevin Rudd said this a few months ago...

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..


Separately, Rudd angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:

'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs ...


Sorry mate...but K Rudd never said that, it's the text from a viral email doing the rounds, nothing more.
 Quoting: mortal


Thought it was too ballsy for Rudd the dud.
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sheikh hilaly is as big a wanker as the pope
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Ah Pappy, another sexist grub.
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Look, I have a neighbour and a buddy who is an Afghani refugee who is now a citizen.

He thinks his muslim brothers should shut the fuck up or move into the simpson desert and do whatever they want there.
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sheikh hilaly is as big a wanker as the pope
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I object - Sheik hilaly is a greater wanker!
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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and jadr- i see yer axe ya been grindin

this is the problem

the past cant stay dead with any of us
even in the new world countries
plenty of folks ready to hate:
jews
christians
muslims

how ridiculous

it is governments that cause all the troubles

and fanatics who are easily manipulated.

all people want and need the same things.
but i gotta say- on a broad scale
the muslims take the mutherfuckin cake!
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and jadr- i see yer axe ya been grindin

this is the problem

the past cant stay dead with any of us
even in the new world countries
plenty of folks ready to hate:
jews
christians
muslims

how ridiculous

it is governments that cause all the troubles

and fanatics who are easily manipulated.

all people want and need the same things.
but i gotta say- on a broad scale
the muslims take the mutherfuckin cake!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 688610


Tell me - why did Sydney's Muslim community had to appoint some blubber mouth middle eastern peasant as their spiritual leader???

Bad move - the guy started comparing Ozy women to meat hanging of windows - right during a controversial gang rape trial, went on the Lebanese TV to say that Australia was first settled by Muslims...etc...


Couldn't they find an Australian born cleric who understands the values of Australian Society?

Last Edited by JADR on 06/02/2009 04:11 AM
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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and jadr- i see yer axe ya been grindin

this is the problem

the past cant stay dead with any of us
even in the new world countries
plenty of folks ready to hate:
jews
christians
muslims

how ridiculous

it is governments that cause all the troubles

and fanatics who are easily manipulated.

all people want and need the same things.
but i gotta say- on a broad scale
the muslims take the mutherfuckin cake!


Tell me - why did Sydney's Muslim community had to appoint some blubber mouth middle eastern peasant as their spiritual leader???

Bad move - the guy started comparing Ozy women to meat hanging of windows - right during a controversial gang rape trial, went on the Lebanese TV to say that Australia was first settled by Muslims...etc...


Couldn't they find an Australian born cleric who understands the values of Australian Society?
 Quoting: JADR



I can tell you that aussies will take only so much of their bullshit. We have a way of taking matters into our own hands. Push us too far and we bite hard.





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