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Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax
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[link to www.fourwinds10.com]
June 2, 2009
Dec. 2008)
650 to dissent at U.N. climate change conference
WASHINGTON – A United Nations climate change conference in Poland is about to get a surprise from 650 leading scientists who scoff at doomsday reports of man-made global warming – labeling them variously a lie, a hoax and part of a new religion.
Later today, their voices will be heard in a U.S. Senate minority report quoting the scientists, many of whom are current and former members of the U.N.'s own Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
About 250 of the scientists quoted in the report have joined the dissenting scientists in the last year alone.
In fact, the total number of scientists represented in the report is 12 times the number of U.N. scientists who authored the official IPCC 2007 report.
Here are some choice excerpts from the report:
* "I am a skeptic ... . Global warming has become a new religion." -- Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
* "Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly ... . As a scientist I remain skeptical." -- Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called "among the most pre-eminent scientists of the last 100 years."
* Warming fears are the "worst scientific scandal in the history ... . When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." -- U.N. IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning Ph.D. environmental physical chemist.
* "The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn't listen to others. It doesn't have open minds ... . I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists." -- Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the U.N.-supported International Year of the Planet.
* "The models and forecasts of the U.N. IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity." -- Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico.
* "It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don't buy into anthropogenic global warming." -- U.S. Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
* "Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapor and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will." -- Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, New Zealand.
* "After reading [U.N. IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet." -- Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an associate editor of Monthly Weather Review.
* "For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" -- Geologist Dr. David Gee, the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer-reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.
* "Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp ... . Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact." -- Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch U.N. IPCC committee.
* "Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined." -- Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh, Pa.
* "Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense ... . The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning." -- Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.
* "CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another ... . Every scientist knows this, but it doesn't pay to say so ... . Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver's seat and developing nations walking barefoot." -- Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.
* "The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds." -- Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.
The report also includes new peer-reviewed scientific studies and analyses refuting man-made warming fears and a climate developments that contradict the theory.
It is 4 degrees Celsius (39 Fahrenheit) today in Poznan, Poland, where the U.N. conference is being held. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 548111 6/2/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | It truly is a sham. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56857 6/2/2009 6:18 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | Important info the peeps should know. bump |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56857 6/2/2009 6:35 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | One of the biggest shams on the public in history. oh and 911 of course |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 693517 6/2/2009 9:57 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | bump |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692794 6/2/2009 10:02 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | It isn't global warming it's climate change and if you can't see it you are blind on top of stupid  |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 661844 6/2/2009 10:18 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | the climate is always changing, the whole frick'n universe is in flux you piece of cow dung! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 693501 6/2/2009 10:20 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans. |
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ShaneCMuir User ID: 611456 6/2/2009 10:25 PM
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692794 6/2/2009 10:25 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693501
Actually it could if we eliminated money and did things correctly. |
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The Monk User ID: 618680 6/2/2009 10:36 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693501
People are panicked that we don't have a global govt. to deal with this population explosion. And the ones panicking are the ones that want a global govt. that is NOT a representational govt. but one ruled by hand picked elites. That's the thrust of the bilderberg ilk. People be damned. |
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blackcat66 User ID: 348276 6/2/2009 10:37 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | What is a hoax to me is the entire UN. What a bunch of pathetic puppets. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692124 6/2/2009 10:39 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692124 6/2/2009 10:39 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | I can find a dozen links that give information to ice caps melting. You tell me why so many volcanoes are smoldering. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692359 6/2/2009 10:43 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | Warming fears are the "worst scientific scandal in the history ... . When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists." -- U.N. IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning Ph.D. environmental physical chemist.
See, he knows that global warming is sprayed-up aerosol man-made bull-crap by people with an agenda to make money. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 692124 6/2/2009 10:45 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | I don't believe global warming is caused from carbon buildup in the atmosphere, but I do believe our planet has been warming. |
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Free Store  User ID: 141562 6/2/2009 10:49 PM
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"... lol, do your eyes need proof that they can see for to be able to see? "
gooderboy |
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Cranky User ID: 586322 6/2/2009 10:59 PM
 | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | It's funny considering that I am not a scientist but I realized that "man made global anything" is bull shit. I do believe that we are depleting the oil though and in reality global warming is a tool to implementing something known as "DEMAND DESTRUCTION" for energy resources.
Rather than stating that we must cut consumption to extend the mean time a cleaver tool was created that enables the wealthy to use all the energy they want while harshly punishing the poor who cannot pay for offsets. A fair system would be to RATION energy to all but this is class warfare and communism.
Maybe I'm wrong and there is plenty of energy but Global Warming is still "Demand Destruction" and that is "DEPOPULATION" and that is called a "PURGE" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 646621 6/2/2009 11:01 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | False religion. Hmmmmm...... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 693517 6/2/2009 11:16 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | carbon tax and credits were how the NWO and UN were going fund a one world government. Now there being exposed. What are they going to try next.
Oh by the way I starting a new company selling ICE CUBE credits. any takers. Get them now why there cheap. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 693517 6/2/2009 11:20 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
It's funny considering that I am not a scientist but I realized that "man made global anything" is bull shit. I do believe that we are depleting the oil though and in reality global warming is a tool to implementing something known as "DEMAND DESTRUCTION" for energy resources.
Rather than stating that we must cut consumption to extend the mean time a cleaver tool was created that enables the wealthy to use all the energy they want while harshly punishing the poor who cannot pay for offsets. A fair system would be to RATION energy to all but this is class warfare and communism.
Maybe I'm wrong and there is plenty of energy but Global Warming is still "Demand Destruction" and that is "DEPOPULATION" and that is called a "PURGE" Quoting: Cranky
Energy is not the problem if they would just release the relatively free energy systems they have with held. Fresh water will probably become a bigger Issue and then fold and the waste from more people. We will either learn to control our own population growth or someone will do it for us. lol |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 693517 6/2/2009 11:23 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | Al Gore should be tried and put in jail for fraud. He is involve with companies making millions off carbon tax credits. What a sham |
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mercury2 User ID: 425698 6/2/2009 11:29 PM
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The Professor User ID: 276544 6/2/2009 11:35 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | I'm glad to see that the GLP-ers have solved another scientific conundrum...thanks! |
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Jym User ID: 693613 6/2/2009 11:47 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | I just how all the people still trying to defend it say "oh cooling just a part of global warming"
that was supposed to be 20+ years down the line was it not, folks?
it's clearly the sun that has more affect on the temp.
We entered a period of time when the sun was less active and what do you know the Earth's temp cooled.
Hard to argue against the fact that fossil fuels are a killer for the environment tho.
It just wont be due to "global warming" caused by them.
People just need to realize how safe and reliable and fuel efficient nuclear power is.
Plug-n cars + Nuclear power plants = only logical solution to the car situation |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 693517 6/3/2009 2:44 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote | don't need nuclear power plants. The new fusion power plants will not create radio active waste. The labratory in livermore CAlif. has an operational one. But then you have water shortages and food shortages to contend with. As well as other forms of polutions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 611514 6/3/2009 3:13 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
I'm glad to see that the GLP-ers have solved another scientific conundrum...thanks! Quoting: The Professor 276544
Swine Flu. It's made everyone brilliant. Swine Flu.
Be Afraid. |
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Cranky User ID: 586322 6/3/2009 3:14 AM
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don't need nuclear power plants. The new fusion power plants will not create radio active waste. The labratory in livermore CAlif. has an operational one. But then you have water shortages and food shortages to contend with. As well as other forms of polutions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693517
There is no working fusion reactor period. You should better research what is in Livermore at the NIF...
March 27, 2009. In 2010, NIF will focus the intense energy of 192 giant laser beams on a BB-sized target filled with hydrogen fuel — fusing, or igniting, the hydrogen atoms' nuclei in the world's first controlled thermonuclear reaction. This is the same fusion energy process that makes stars shine and provides the life-giving energy of the sun. More on
https://lasers.llnl.gov/
So, this might happen in 2010 and then who can say. It may cause fusion but not be sustainable. Etc. As they say don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch. These science and testing facilities all receive funding from TAXES. It all looks great and sucks billions from the economy but who knows what they are doing and if there will ever be fusion. They have been working on sustained fusion since the 40ies. Lots of people got rich from taxes and donations but no fusion! |
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mt User ID: 587237 6/3/2009 3:15 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693501
especially given that gm crops only yield 2/3 what traditional crops give
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 605000 6/3/2009 3:22 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
It isn't global warming it's climate change and if you can't see it you are blind on top of stupid  Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692794
they started off calling it Global Warming, then blind Freddy could see that things weren't warming. So they renamed it 'climate change'.
The weather has never been static but all of the sudden there are no natural disasters anymore, everything is now climate change.
You know it is consistant with people who see no higher authority than themselves.
They don't believe in God, so therefore they cannot accept 'acts of God', they are arrogant enough to assume MAN is the pinnacle of evolution - so therefore MAN has assumed the position of GOD.
The end result is MAN MADE climate change.
I dont know the Bible, but doesn't it talk about Man thinking himself GOD being one of the telling characteristics of the END of TIMES? |
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