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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548111
6/3/2009 10:45 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
The planet can easily support 7billion people, we just need to change the way in which we live and consume. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693912
6/3/2009 10:46 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
FEATURE
New Solar Cycle Prediction
05.29.2009
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May 29, 2009: An international panel of experts led by NOAA and sponsored by NASA has released a new prediction for the next solar cycle. Solar Cycle 24 will peak, they say, in May 2013 with a below-average number of sunspots.
"If our prediction is correct, Solar Cycle 24 will have a peak sunspot number of 90, the lowest of any cycle since 1928 when Solar Cycle 16 peaked at 78," says panel chairman Doug Biesecker of the NOAA Space Weather Prediction Center.
Right: A solar flare observed in Dec. 2006 by NOAA's GOES-13 satellite.
It is tempting to describe such a cycle as "weak" or "mild," but that could give the wrong impression.
"Even a below-average cycle is capable of producing severe space weather," points out Biesecker. "The great geomagnetic storm of 1859, for instance, occurred during a solar cycle of about the same size we’re predicting for 2013."
The 1859 storm--known as the "Carrington Event" after astronomer Richard Carrington who witnessed the instigating solar flare--electrified transmission cables, set fires in telegraph offices, and produced Northern Lights so bright that people could read newspapers by their red and green glow. A recent report by the National Academy of Sciences found that if a similar storm occurred today, it could cause $1 to 2 trillion in damages to society's high-tech infrastructure and require four to ten years for complete recovery. For comparison, Hurricane Katrina caused "only" $80 to 125 billion in damage.
Above: This plot of sunspot numbers shows the measured peak of the last solar cycle in blue and the predicted peak of the next solar cycle in red. Credit: NOAA/Space Weather Prediction Center. [more]
The latest forecast revises an earlier prediction issued in 2007. At that time, a sharply divided panel believed solar minimum would come in March 2008 followed by either a strong solar maximum in 2011 or a weak solar maximum in 2012. Competing models gave different answers, and researchers were eager for the sun to reveal which was correct.
"It turns out that none of our models were totally correct," says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA's lead representative on the panel. "The sun is behaving in an unexpected and very interesting way."
Researchers have known about the solar cycle since the mid-1800s. Graphs of sunspot numbers resemble a roller coaster, going up and down with an approximately 11-year period. At first glance, it looks like a regular pattern, but predicting the peaks and valleys has proven troublesome. Cycles vary in length from about 9 to 14 years. Some peaks are high, others low. The valleys are usually brief, lasting only a couple of years, but sometimes they stretch out much longer. In the 17th century the sun plunged into a 70-year period of spotlessness known as the Maunder Minimum that still baffles scientists.
Above: Yearly-averaged sunspot numbers from 1610 to 2008. Researchers believe upcoming Solar Cycle 24 will be similar to the cycle that peaked in 1928, marked by a red arrow. Credit: NASA/MSFC
Right now, the solar cycle is in a valley--the deepest of the past century. In 2008 and 2009, the sun set Space Age records for low sunspot counts, weak solar wind, and low solar irradiance. The sun has gone more than two years without a significant solar flare.
"In our professional careers, we've never seen anything quite like it," says Pesnell. "Solar minimum has lasted far beyond the date we predicted in 2007."
In recent months, however, the sun has begun to show timorous signs of life. Small sunspots and "proto-sunspots" are popping up with increasing frequency. Enormous currents of plasma on the sun’s surface ("zonal flows") are gaining strength and slowly drifting toward the sun’s equator. Radio astronomers have detected a tiny but significant uptick in solar radio emissions. All these things are precursors of an awakening Solar Cycle 24 and form the basis for the panel's new, almost unanimous forecast.
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According to the forecast, the sun should remain generally calm for at least another year. From a research point of view, that's good news because solar minimum has proven to be more interesting than anyone imagined. Low solar activity has a profound effect on Earth’s atmosphere, allowing it to cool and contract. Space junk accumulates in Earth orbit because there is less aerodynamic drag. The becalmed solar wind whips up fewer magnetic storms around Earth's poles. Cosmic rays that are normally pushed back by solar wind instead intrude on the near-Earth environment. There are other side-effects, too, that can be studied only so long as the sun remains quiet.
Meanwhile, the sun pays little heed to human committees. There could be more surprises, panelists acknowledge, and more revisions to the forecast. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631426
6/3/2009 10:57 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
I can find a dozen links that give information to ice caps melting. You tell me why so many volcanoes are smoldering. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692124
What's your point? Does that mean that man is responsible for global warming? or even that we can stop it? or, even that it exists? |
| Above Al Gore clearance only!
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6/3/2009 11:01 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
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"The reasons for global warming"
Explained to us by Pleiadians
Snip from: [link to galactic.no]
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A UFO contactee in Minnesota, who also is told by his entirely human extraterrestrial visitors that they are coming from what we call the Pleiades, who has been visited by them since his first abduction in 1958, has carried on extensive dialogues on scientific and technical subjects so profound that he had to enroll in college physics courses to learn enough to grasp what they were trying to explain to him.
They told him that our toying with the atom was our greatest danger, and worse, our scientists had no knowledge of the dangers they were introducing in our world.
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Nuclear energy and planet Earth
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Nuclear fission and fusion as employed today for energy production and military uses are killing this planet, and no one in the scientific comm-unity has any idea why it's dying or how to save it. The reason for this is simple - they do not understand atomic structure, solar structure, or the complete dynamics of falling bodies. Physics textbooks erroneously declare our sun to be, in effect, a nuclear reactor. It is not. Because the scientific community feels confident that nuclear power is a part of nature they, as a body, have ceased to consider the possibility that perhaps they do not have all of the answers. Due to this arrogance, they are not even looking at nuclear technologies as possible causes of the damage we see occurring to our ionosphere, and if they do not look they will not see. Our planet is very sick and is weakening daily. It has reached a point where Earth's own mechanisms can no longer heal the wounds as quickly as they're being inflicted. In other words, we have reached a point of no return in that if nuclear fission and fusion are not abandoned and salvage operations begun immediately, the ionosphere will continue its rapid disintegration until life on Earth ceases to exist.
In this paper we will attempt to explain in brief what is happening and why, but most particularly we aim to warn the reader of what the future holds if this insanity is not stopped - and soon.!!!
Our emphasis must be on predictions because frankly, the tests and results upon which we base our theory break many currently accepted "laws" of physics, and so will be rejected out of hand by many of those who have spent their lives properly memorizing those laws. To prove we are credible and do indeed know what we're talking about we must therefore predict what the scientific community has not predicted and can never explain using current physical law. Only in this way can we impress the reader with the truth of what we say, and gain allies in our effort to halt these deadly technologies before it's t late. So then, to begin....
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The process of nuclear fission
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During the process of nuclear fission and fusion an atom is forced open a electrons escape. Science and industry assure us that this process is safe, because even though our knowledge of atomic structure is incomplete, any unforeseen damaging effects are prevented by the massive steel and concrete containment vessels. They are correct insofar as containing electrons is concerned, but what they have yet to realize is there exists much smaller particles of mass and energy which pass easily through the containment walls, and which strip off particles from the containment vessels themselves as they pass through. This results in an unforeseen and rapid decay of the containment structure itself - weakening it greatly within a decade - which in turn allows even larger particles (still smaller than an electron) to escape. Obviously, the problem quickly becomes progressive.
These minute particles released from an atom are negative in respect to planet earth. This means that these particles will be repelled from earth's surface to the outer regions of the ionosphere. Of course these particles are yet more negative in value than solar energy, and are also repelled from the energy emitted from the sun. Because these very negative particles are repelled from solar energy, they move around the earth, staying on the dark side of the planet in order to avoid direct contact with solar energy. These very negative particles tend to 'settle in" at any location which remains in darkness for substantial periods of time. For a part of the year this area is at the Southern Polar region (Antarctica). Accumulating at the South Pole, these particles assemble themselves with the normally positive ions of the ionosphere, which results in the production of an extremely negative plasma.
As the South Pole again begins to face toward the sun (Sept.-Oct.) this highly negative plasma is repelled, and now has nowhere to go but to Earth.
This results in a hole in the ionosphere in the South Pole region. Because of the massive amounts of these very negative particles being released, the hole in the ionosphere will be found to have increased dramatically in size in 1986, possibly as far as the 600 paralell line.
If the phenomena is monitored, it will be noticed that the hole will develop a 24 hour oscillation, and that the oscillation will always be away from the suns light. This again is due to the fact that these very negative particles, now assembled into a very negative plasma, will be repelled from solar energy.
As the South Pole faces toward the sun, the North Pole lies in darkness. Therefore, the negative, unassembled particles in the upper atmosphere will tend to "settle in" near the North Pole, and will assemble with positive ions there. When once again the North Pole faces toward the sun, the resulting negative plasma will be forced to the surface of Earth. Our calculations indicate that in the early months of 1987, a hole in the ionosphere will be found to have appeared over the North Pole.
Some of the results of this disruption of the ionosphere will have immediate effects. For instance, as great shells of this negative plasma are pushed into existing shells of plasma, very adverse and abnormal weather conditions will be experienced world wide. In areas where the ionosphere is thicker, there will be an over filtering of solar energy, causing a reduction of sunlight available on earth and a subsequent increase in rainfall. In areas where the ionosphere has thinned, expect severe heat waves and drought conditions. Also, iron deposits attract these negative particles of mass and energy, and so areas with large deposits of iron can expect drastic changes in their weather cycles. A less immediate effect of this attraction to iron deposits will be that life forms in these areas will experience genetic changes, and an alarming increase in birth defects will be seen in these areas. Likewise, incidents of cancer and other diseases related to a breakdown in immune system activities will be noted.
As the destruction of the ionosphere continues, more drastic effects will be observed. For example, as these undetected particles of mass and energy are accepted at the poles (and elsewhere) they will undoubtedly result in an increase in the energy exchange of our planet. This will cause an increase in the rotation rate of the Earth. At first this increase will be considered a negligible factor, but the increase will be progressive, and will eventually result in the earth changing it's orbit. The elliptic will increase, and the Earth will begin it's drift away from the sun.
The increase in energy exchange will also "heat" up the interior of our planet, resulting in great internal pressure. This pressure will be released in the form of great earthquakes and increasingly greater volcanic actions. The end result of these actions will be great continental shifts, and areas lying along existing fault lines will be at great risk. This increase in energy exchange will also cause a warming of the earth's surface, and the polar ice caps will begin to melt. Coastline areas will begin to disappear.
Much more could be said, but this outline of events will give the reader a fair idea of why we say the situation on Earth is critical. To date the focus of the anti-nuclear movement has been to eliminate bombs and testing, control radioactive wastes, etc. Few people have considered that perhaps the splitting of atoms in and of itself is anti-nature. Unless it is stopped and decontamination procedures initiated, our future is bleak. The problems will not go away by themselves. Humankind has done the damage, and now we must repair it. The technology now exists which will provide the tools, but our group cannot do it alone. We seek allies!!
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I found this very interesting, but I'm no scientist, so I don't know what is true/false here. I just wanted to post this, as it deals with global warming and the melting of polar ice and so on... and there's no mentioning of CO2... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 554051
6/3/2009 11:23 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693501
Agreed
The real problem is lack of conservation and sustainability. I am alright with the idea of "global warming" as long as it equates to action. Global warming has resulted in the release of improved transportation technology, more recycling and less waste. GW could be a total scam but at least some good things have come from it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 680360
6/3/2009 11:39 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
At least you're all not screaming about chem trails anymore.
Global Warming is one of the most largely agreed upon theories in the scientific community. Some one is attempting to spread disinformation.
It is completely rational to believe humankind is causing this. We're cutting down trees, burning waste, and pumping carbon into the atmosphere with our cars, planes, and factories. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 649432
6/3/2009 11:47 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
But wait..didn't Al Gore say we're all doomed? Surely we can trust a scientific genius like Gore, right? |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 693891
6/3/2009 11:48 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
EXCUSE ME
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Global Warming is one of the most largely agreed upon theories in the scientific community. Some one is attempting to spread disinformation.
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NO IT IS NOT. IT IS A POLITICAL STATEMENT CLAIMED TO BASED ON CONSENSUS. A CONSENSUS THAT DOES NOT EXIST. HAVE YOU BEEM TO A UN COMMITTEE, DO YOU KNOW HOW THEY WORK. HAVE YOU PARTICIPATED IN WORKING GROUPS SUBMITTED PAPERS, PARTICIPATED IN AGENDA SETTING. BEEN PART OF THE WORKINGS.
I HAVE, ITS A WONDER TO BEHOLD, THEY DECIDE THE OUTCOME, BELIEVE ME. THATS WHY ALL THE MEDIA PARROTS THEM. ITS ALL A BRAINWASHING EXERCISE.
AGREED SOMEONE IS SPREADING DISINFO AND ITS THE CO2, HUMAN CO2 THAT IS CAUSING A PROBLEM.
GL |
| Milky Way Today
User ID: 692782
6/3/2009 11:52 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is one of the most largely agreed upon theories in the scientific community. Some one is attempting to spread disinformation.
It is completely rational to believe humankind is causing this. We're cutting down trees, burning waste, and pumping carbon into the atmosphere with our cars, planes, and factories. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680360
Try this: Senate Report Debunks “Consensus”
Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called “consensus” on man-made global warming.
[link to www.uncommondescent.com]
In the 70's we were all thought to believe in the coming of a New ICE AGE. The consensus at that time was in the cover of TIME mag. New ICE Age. What I have learned is that consensus is rarely right. (Housing prices will never decline)
Water Vapor will increase due to the warming and actually create a cloud cover and COOL the planet. Many anecdotal evidence of a cooling of the world, Ice measurements, snowing in Las Vegas and LA. How fast people forget.
I suggest following the link to the Senate report and reading a little. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693965
6/3/2009 11:57 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans.
Actually it could if we eliminated money and did things correctly. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692794
its just crazy all that space left on the oceans and no one is using it the earth can sustain way more people if we just use our brains a bit more into this problem instead of using it for wars and so on. people could live underground in special caves and even underwater if some extensive research was done on that area than we would have domes already in the pacific ocean, there is enough space on this wonderful world just the people living on it dont use it the way they should.
no its more important to go into space and not achieve anything or some small progress but the things we have close to us we dont spend to much attention to. that could SOLVE the problem of over population...
its just pissing me off to see how scientists and people with cash dont put their resources together and go for this idea. cost should not matter i mean it does not matter for warfare so why not for this profit its time the world governments wake up and grow up and not try to extent their body shortcomings with weapons, put more effort in this subject and most problems will go away and settle. |
| tt
User ID: 587237
6/3/2009 11:58 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Do you really, really believe that the enormous ammounts of CO2 that we produce every day since decades has no effect whatsoever over our planet's atmosphere?
I STRONGLY recommend you think twice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225527
do you really not know that the sea emits & absorbs such vast quantities of co2 that the contribution of manmade co2 is laughable ?
. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693963
6/3/2009 11:58 AM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global warming is as scientific as the "Aryan Race Science" of the Nazis. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693963
6/3/2009 12:01 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Do you really, really believe that the enormous ammounts of CO2 that we produce every day since decades has no effect whatsoever over our planet's atmosphere?
I STRONGLY recommend you think twice.
do you really not know that the sea emits & absorbs such vast quantities of co2 that the contribution of manmade co2 is laughable ?
. Quoting: tt 587237
yep! The guy originally quoted should know that we'd be a burping volcano. And they're trying to tell us that on volcano more or less will doom the planet into oblivion.
Yawn. Idiots.
Where we DO have to react is pollution in general (dumping mercury and co. in oceans, seas and lakes for example) or clamping down on deforestation.
On the list of a million planet-saving priorities, CO2 would be dead last. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 693891
6/3/2009 12:06 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
SOMEWHERE ON GLP IS AN INTERESTING REPORT. SEEMS THERE IS A GLOBAL EXPERT. HE HAS DOME NOTING BUT STUDY SEA LEVELS FOR 40 YEARS. ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING ABOUT SEA LEVEL.
HIS OBSERVATION FROM ROCK HARD RECODED DATA, HE HAS NOT SEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF ONE MILLIMETER SEA LEVEL RISE.
HE ALSO INVESTIGATED CLAIMS ABOUT ISLANDS AND FOUND THEM TO BE UNSUBSTANTIATED. HE IS PART OF THE UNWASHED, DISSENTERS.
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 671095
6/3/2009 12:34 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
It isn't global warming it's climate change and if you can't see it you are blind on top of stupid 
Right - climate change is the new tag line for the global warming scam.
We should migrate to clean energy anyway, but not tax people to death in the process.
Climate change is being used two ways - private companies will make a ton of money on green tech so they are aggressively lobbying for it.
Secondly, it is a huge green sin tax. So the govt wants more revenue. So this will tax the bejesus out of everyone and hurt the poor and lower middle class the most.
Cap and Trade for example will hit everyone in the country.
So 75% of electricity generation is carbon based. So 75% of the population will have much higher heating, cooling and electricity bills.
Any good at retail gets there via diesel truck - so look for food to get more expensive.
Then there is transportation, which is heavily carbon based. So if you drive to work, take a bus or a train you are going to be taxed by higher prices.
Look at electric trains - where does the electricity come from??? Coal.
NYC subway system is Con Edison coal fired plants. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 665963
6/3/2009 1:03 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
False religion. Hmmmmm...... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 646621
"I am a skeptic ... . Global warming has become a new religion." -- Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.
I agree...a little part of me fears this whole global warming thing will lead to a "religion" like transhumanism or something - or some sort of religion of the "self" (not of GOD). I simply don't trust NASA scientists, too many connections between NASA scientists and the transhumanist movement. NASA scientists do not believe in GOD. Therefore, they would see no problem with Geoengineering, human-machine interface, or genetic engineering. Things that would take us further away from GOD, Creation, and the core of humanity. Like the Hopi prophecy, they build their kingdom above Earth but it WILL fall. |
| deano
User ID: 634348
6/3/2009 1:07 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
We are the cancer of the earth.
So you'll be off to kill yourself then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693775
Cancer does not always kill. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 694009
6/3/2009 1:13 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
people are fueling their cars now today with waste oil from cooking... and all you get is the smell of french fries. its all about the will to change imho... i would bet that the humble hemp plant could provide plenty of useful oils toward biofuel without using excess resources land or water. although that could mean a lot of crazy weedies around. |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 693891
6/3/2009 1:14 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
EVEN NASA THEMSELVES ADMIT IT, FROM THE ABOVE POST
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The latest forecast revises an earlier prediction issued in 2007. At that time, a sharply divided panel believed solar minimum would come in March 2008 followed by either a strong solar maximum in 2011 or a weak solar maximum in 2012. Competing models gave different answers, and researchers were eager for the sun to reveal which was correct.
"It turns out that none of our models were totally correct," says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA's lead representative on the panel. "The sun is behaving in an unexpected and very interesting way."
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NOTICE THEY INSERTED THE WORD "TOTALLY" BUT YOU ARE EITHER CORRECT OR WRONG.
GL |
| deano
User ID: 634348
6/3/2009 1:15 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global warming is as scientific as the "Aryan Race Science" of the Nazis. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693963
One could even say Christan Science, for that matter. |
| SATAN
User ID: 694025
6/3/2009 1:29 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
You have to understand this: only recently there have been reports immense amount of oil available in the Arctic.
These group of scientists are actually paid to debunk the global warming so that the governments can proceed to extract the oil beneath the Arctic. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622690
6/3/2009 1:50 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
It isn't global warming it's climate change and if you can't see it you are blind on top of stupid Quoting: Anonymous Coward 692794
First it was "global cooling", then it was the "disappearing ozone layer", then "global warming", and now "climate change" - same b.s. different clothing.
And I love how they decided to call it "climate change" now, what the f*** is that? The climate changes every season. I am guessing they picked that term so that no matter what you can't argue that what they "mean" is climate change is untrue, since you'd be an idiot to ever announce that the climate is not changing (considering it is always changing and always has been). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 622690
6/3/2009 1:56 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
Global Warming is not the problem only a symptom of the real problem. This planet cannot support 6+ billion humans. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693501
I agree that the planet can not support several billion people (though I disagree that 6 billion is the breaking point), however, I do have to wonder why the only solution to this problem is always abortion, euthanasia, birth control, lower standards of living, carbon taxes, etc. (aka anything to take away the basic right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness)
Why can't we spend all the money and energy we spend on killing and taking to "save the planet" to expand out into a universe that can handle more humans than can possibly be produced? I have to question solutions that focus on holding everyone back rather than moving everyone forward. |
| Witness_ 
User ID: 352356
6/3/2009 1:58 PM
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Interesting that this poster is posting discredited information in an attempt to deny global warming.
Here is a link to just one of many sites that tear the denier's lack of science to pieces:
[link to scienceblogs.com]
Interesting also that the so-called "experts" who deny are actually not really experts in the field.
I have wondered how long it will take the oil industry, given the collapse in oil prices, to start attacking global warming initiatives as they place short term profit over the future of the planet.
Very sad to read how many fools here are suckered.
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| Witness_
User ID: 352356
6/3/2009 2:00 PM
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It isn't global warming it's climate change and if you can't see it you are blind on top of stupid
First it was "global cooling", then it was the "disappearing ozone layer", then "global warming", and now "climate change" - same b.s. different clothing.
And I love how they decided to call it "climate change" now, what the f*** is that? The climate changes every season. I am guessing they picked that term so that no matter what you can't argue that what they "mean" is climate change is untrue, since you'd be an idiot to ever announce that the climate is not changing (considering it is always changing and always has been). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 622690
Hey, dope-head, get with the facts. The ozone layer was disappearing, there is still a hell of a lot of damage and it was only because those who understand science, like me, took action and this resulted in a dramatic cut globally of the ozone-damaging chemicals that the ozone is no longer as vulnerable as it was.
But be under no illusion that this is still an issue and there is still mega damage that will take a very long time to repair. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1978
6/3/2009 2:02 PM | | Witness_
User ID: 352356
6/3/2009 2:04 PM
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EVEN NASA THEMSELVES ADMIT IT, FROM THE ABOVE POST
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The latest forecast revises an earlier prediction issued in 2007. At that time, a sharply divided panel believed solar minimum would come in March 2008 followed by either a strong solar maximum in 2011 or a weak solar maximum in 2012. Competing models gave different answers, and researchers were eager for the sun to reveal which was correct.
"It turns out that none of our models were totally correct," says Dean Pesnell of the Goddard Space Flight Center, NASA's lead representative on the panel. "The sun is behaving in an unexpected and very interesting way."
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NOTICE THEY INSERTED THE WORD "TOTALLY" BUT YOU ARE EITHER CORRECT OR WRONG.
GL Quoting: GREY LENSMAN 693891
Yes, the Sun is giving us a lucky break right now. But if it does come back to full strength, we are fucked. Pure and simple.
The best that we can hope for is that the Sun remain weak for many decades and that we can pull back from our CO2 rampage and go green. But the idiots who are deniers here show how much of a battle those of us with brains and knowledge have, because big money is being chucked at preventing a change to green technology.
I know this first hand. I have witnessed it first hand. No conspiracy theory, I know the people who were in the labs when the oil company hench men walked in with 10 pund hammers and reduced all the prototypes to powder. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 480578
6/3/2009 2:13 PM | | mr...bojangles
User ID: 692704
6/3/2009 2:16 PM | | Re: Scientist at the UN meeting say global warming is hoax | Quote |
all the planets in our solar system are melting..
niburu is the key to understaning all of this....
but nibur is off limits to all scientists...
on risk of assasination or injury to relatives...
chemtrails contain barium and aluminum....
this will make the entire n. american surface electrosensitive...
and in this way be able to be controlled if a strong solar flare knocks down all commmunication sattelites and the electric grid... |
| MoonBat
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