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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/8/2009 8:58 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Well, I'm still not a fan of fallen anything, and I can't speak to explanations that seem metaphysically contrived, but I will say that I do get a strong sense that this planet in particular is of perhaps greatest focus from whoever or whatever the universal choreographers are - as we hover on the cusp, or more to the point, teeter on the precipice between balance and imbalance - as the disparity between forces of good intent vs forces of mal intent on this planet could not be any greater without the planet dis-integrating and perhaps tearing apart the curtain of space-time. Half the people want of this planet as the other half want to terrorize us all into oblivion. It has to find critical mass and soon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166
Yeah, the whole affair is definitely an edge of the seat kind of deal eh? 
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/8/2009 9:01 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
GOOD DAY,
Son, I am seeing all of you what you are doing in your life and I am very consern for all of you.
My world that I created is going on the wrong direction for long time now.
But the time is coming and some of my children that I did choose, like you are one of them, know
that.
The ones that I choose, that obey my, will see the light first.
The ones that that are in the wrong path, will see the light but when the sun going down.
You that obey and love oneanother, must live in peace with yourself and with eachother here on the
earth.
When you live in peace, you will not suffer, but the others that are NOT living in peace and did not
obey the law will suffer and will live in hell on this earth, because they did it by them self and that is
what they deserve.
They ALL my children and I love them all, they have to come to my by them self when they ask for forgiveness.
And they know when to do it, that is why I am NOT helping them, till they open there hearts to my.
Son, you all are doing your best, I know, I give you the LIGHT to live your life in Peace and Happy and Love
eachother, seek your happiness, is there when you find it, is right in front of your eyes.
FORGIVE is the KEY to your Happiness and live in peace with your self and LOVE will open the door for
everthing you DESIRE and PEACE is ALL the above that comes within your DIVINE heart.
I will take care for your brothers and sisters, I know you love them, but they have to open there hearts
by them self.
Have PATIENT my son, everthing will come, PATIENT.
The LAW of the life of all of you is if you do not OBEY, things that are not good will come to you and that is the Law.
If you OBEY, then you live your life with Peace and Love, like I want you to live on earth and then you will
go to the dimention that I choose for one each of you.
I will let you know when to tell this to your brothers, there are some of you that know this.
BLESS YOU.
Just wanted you to share, and to see why?
Namaste Quoting: Rwederfoort
Yup, it is, and a matter of fact is going to define an entire age of salvaging. 
Where did you get these words if you don't mind my asking? 
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166
6/8/2009 9:15 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
oops....
s/b
Half the people want off this planet as the other half want to terrorize us all into oblivion. It has to find critical mass and soon.
Now, I know for certain I will not be returning to this planet unless and until this planet is free of pollution/greed/hate/violence/disease/religion/governments/imbalance/and the sundry weaknesses that man is heir to. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/8/2009 9:22 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
oops....
s/b
Half the people want off this planet as the other half want to terrorize us all into oblivion. It has to find critical mass and soon.
Now, I know for certain I will not be returning to this planet unless and until this planet is free of pollution/greed/hate/violence/disease/religion/governments/imbalance/and the sundry weaknesses that man is heir to. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166
Yeah, I've heard several different memes to that notion along the "Light Wave" sort of event that separates the wheat from the chaff etc etc etc.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 698211
6/8/2009 9:37 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
To tell people that the reason they are suffering is because they did something "wrong" with no known connection is a type of evil as such is telling them that their Creator is angry with them and of course "punishing" them when often nothing is further from the Truth. Quoting: Saxon (777)
What if each of those kids themselves raped children in their previous life? It's tough to call many of those things without having ALL the information on hand. And too, such could simply fall into the "abuses" pocket that I mentioned earlier on due the rebellion here. Quoting: Saxon (777)
You contradict yourself. Either people are "punished" for past life mistakes or they are not. |
| Uriel
User ID: 512435
6/8/2009 9:57 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon, how do you view the Jewish people?
I view them as brothers and sisters who have been mislead to believe many things about others that just are not True. And like any large group of people, there are many varied groups within the whole that significantly differ even in what I stated above.
The question is much like asking someone how they view Americans, a question which is WAAAAAAAY to big to be answered here, and something I'd rather not get into on a thread that has nothing to do with that topic. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Not true, because this post has to do with God, and the Jewish people were chosen by God, and the Torah was given to them.
I want to know how your "God" difers from the Christian and Jewish God.
How so many generations of Christian and Specially Jewish can be so wrong.....for you to come here and undermine 1000's of years of written History and Prophecy.
You have mentioned that you have met God Himself, just wanted to know how..and what he is like.
By fire gold is purified, so is love, by patience.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beggining and the end, says the Lord God, who Is and who Was and who is coming, the Almighty. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/8/2009 11:57 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
To tell people that the reason they are suffering is because they did something "wrong" with no known connection is a type of evil as such is telling them that their Creator is angry with them and of course "punishing" them when often nothing is further from the Truth.
What if each of those kids themselves raped children in their previous life? It's tough to call many of those things without having ALL the information on hand. And too, such could simply fall into the "abuses" pocket that I mentioned earlier on due the rebellion here.
You contradict yourself. Either people are "punished" for past life mistakes or they are not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 698211
Nope, not at all, you fail to understand the whole picture.
Putting someone in the same situation they themselves once unapologetically perpetrated against another is not about "punishment", but rather about helping them see what such is like from the other side of the experience.
Telling someone that the suffering that they are enduring is all because they either "asked" for it or they are being "punished" is simply evil as not all suffering here is due to doing something wrong.
But then again your own "lord" told you the same thing through the blind man healed who was taken to see the Sanhedrin now then didn't he? Aren't you going to correct him too?
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 609390
6/9/2009 12:00 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
It is Because!!!!!......... We Allow Suffering!!!!!!!
P.S. He is still waiting for us to figure that one out... |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/9/2009 12:07 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Not true, because this post has to do with God, and the Jewish people were chosen by God, and the Torah was given to them. Quoting: Uriel
The Jewish people were "chosen" by Lucifer(actually Set at the time), their "god", plain and simple, and one doesn't have to spend a whole lot of time in their Talmud and Kabalah to to figure that out. For the most part, the more serious Jews consider the Torah to be laughable goyim bait window dressing.
I want to know how your "God" difers from the Christian and Jewish God.
How so many generations of Christian and Specially Jewish can be so wrong.....for you to come here and undermine 1000's of years of written History and Prophecy.
You have mentioned that you have met God Himself, just wanted to know how..and what he is like. Quoting: Uriel
My Creator Parents differ in that they are not Lucifer and don't speak of "punishing" children to 7th generations and wrongly treating their own Children due their WRATH and VENGEANCE. My God actually Truly Loves their Children, EVEN those who have turned against them, just like a REAL Loving parent would do here.
No one is getting a free pass here. For those who have greatly wronged their brothers and sisters, they have MUCH personal back tracking to deal with in regard to their spirit, that which involves MUCH pain and suffering. Some would consider that "penance" for what they have done, but that's not so much the goal as turning the spirit around. In all of this does forgiveness need to reign supreme, with those who have wronged to be TRULY regretful and SORRY for what they have done, and as well those they hurt willing to forgive and heal.
In such is the transformation of the darkness and the betterment of the Light.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 693843
6/9/2009 12:19 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
there is no hell, or rapture or jesus .
christians are all brainwashed Quoting: Anonymous Coward 573835
Wow! Thanks for all that enlightenment. You have shown me the way. With all the evidence you offered, I can clearly see now.
Just a little tidbit... Do you believe that George Washington, our 1st president, roamed the earth? I thought you did... Do you know that there's more written evidence of Jesus' life then there is about old Georgie? Somehow you have no problem believing that George Washington existed and yet you can still deny the massive amount of evidence that Jesus existed? |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/9/2009 12:34 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
there is no hell, or rapture or jesus .
christians are all brainwashed
Wow! Thanks for all that enlightenment. You have shown me the way. With all the evidence you offered, I can clearly see now.
Just a little tidbit... Do you believe that George Washington, our 1st president, roamed the earth? I thought you did... Do you know that there's more written evidence of Jesus' life then there is about old Georgie? Somehow you have no problem believing that George Washington existed and yet you can still deny the massive amount of evidence that Jesus existed? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 693843
MASSIVE eh?
Well, let's forgo the MASSIVE and how about you show me ONE SHRED of evidence from the very years Jesus supposedly existed?
You know, the kind of evidence where the then current Emperor of Rome has his historians record things of the nature of:
"holy shit, can you believe that Jesus guy, raising people from the dead, flying through the air, turning water to wine and DOING MORE MIRACLES THAN THE BOOKS OF THE WORLD CAN CONTAIN!!!!"
How about we just focus on that TEENY TINY task for the moment shall we?
To date, not a SINGLE poster has has had ANYTHING to offer. 
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 6:27 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Feel free to post said proof as none exists.
Historians: Pliny the Younger, Tacitus, Suetonius, and Flavius Josephus Antiquities 20: 9.1 "Festus was now dead, and Albinus was but upon the road; so he assembled the Sanhedrin of Judges, and brought before then the brother of Jesus, the so-called Christ, whose name was James, and some others; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned."
The above quote was proven to be an after the fact addition to the book of Josephus, and of little account anyway as Josephus was not born until many decades AFTER the mythical Jesus had supposedly been crucified.
The same is True for all the other "proofs" of the "life of Christ".
Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Can you share what the "mythical Jesus" is all about? 'All that is after the affect', is , well, after the affect...
Can we talk about the source, which later then got "after the fact" treatment? What was the 'addition' above originally referencing?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 6:35 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Spirits incarnated here have "memory wipes" where all their past life memories are temporarily removed from their projected "character". Before coming here, the more advanced spirit of this type lays out a "destiny" game plan and lays out the the hoped path under which these life goals will be met.
Therefore, let's say that a given spirit is looking to strengthen their family bonds and overcome some previous setbacks where someone in their family sent them backwards rather than forward in development. Were they then to show up here with all of their memories intact they would then focus upon all those past hurts and likely continue down that same path and therefore not heal and strengthen the family bond.
Upon returning to the "other side", the enhanced development they did here is than added to the other accumulated experiences to get them back on the desired path with their family. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hello Saxon,
Can we talk about the "memory wipes", a Tabula Rasa right (cleaning of the slate)?
They seem like 'relearning opportunities'. In a sense, even beyond the incarnations here, there seems to a potential of a even bigger memory wipe. I wonder if the spirit here is undergoing and experiencing a 'temporary separation' from the "godstate/hood" that you mentioned.
Or is it something else? Are there beings here that do not have 'amnesia'? For those that somehow can see into their past, is that like 'cheating'?
I imagine, in a having an undeniable self glimmer of some past life experience would profoundly change one's view of the currently prescribed belief system of reality... of beings of crude physical matter.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 6:41 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Your equipment for the most part is the experience and understanding you gained living elsewhere, whether that be here on Earth or the many other places within Creation.
For this round the "best and the brightest" have been called into the "game" in an effort to break the rebellion once and for all, as such has been going on for ages now. As well, the balance of the spirits here are apparently mature enough to facilitate such a move at this time. God will not breath for you nor will He/She play the game for you either. Those who "overcome" will be highly regarded due THEIR overcoming the beast, not some "imputed anointing" that would totally disregard anything that particular spirit accomplished personally.
Hell is no general "second" to heaven as is widely misunderstood, but rather a very special place where the hard core fallen are collected unto themselves as both a way to stop them from leaching off of everyone else and get them to take a good look at themselves as well. The environment of hell is self generating in much the same way Heaven generates from the collective Loving Hearts in that place. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
The movement into heaven or hell you describe sounds alot like a 'Law of Attraction'. Clumping of similar 'densities', maybe even a dualistic sink or float kind of thing.
It seems there are beings that have gone down to hell, even to the lowest of the low, and come back playing the same ol tricks. What happened there? Loops holes or does one come to enjoy all the bad things they do onto another onto themselves, like a intense masochist?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 6:44 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Gods and Goddesses are all handsome/beautiful in varied degrees dependent upon the maturity/development level of the spirit contained within. We, as gods and goddesses, are purposely "separated" from our Creator in several senses to be who WE are. However, the "tie that binds" us all together intentionally is the power of Real Love. In that way, that which was once directly part of our Creator is intended to be "bound" back together as the "tapestry" of Heaven, the long extended family lines of the Father/Mother pairs of the galaxies.
These family lines are intended to eternal, of flawless fidelity and unbreakable. The rebellion of old targeted these primary Husband/Wife unions to explode the Kingdom into a sexual free for all. That was Lucifer's primary "beef" with our Creator, not the totally insane reason of "wanting to be God". Even Lucifer isn't that stupid. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Can you explain more the "ties that bind"? Can you also explain more the old rebellion targeting and breaking intended eternally unbreakable husband/wife unions...into sexual free for all?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 6:55 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Yes, EVERYONE has the innate abilities to master their spirit and move on to "godhood". That's ever the point of the Kingdom, as our Creator Parents look to the day when "Their" children will gain the ability to stand in Their presence. To do so requires that they "tune" Their "Song" to such an extent as to closely match their resonant frequency and not get "burned".
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Yes, the long term affects of the forge workings here CAN be positive in nature, unless they overextend the abilities of the spirit in question. If overextended, the embitterment of the spirit can become hugely detrimental to their continued spiritual development.
Often one will hear the fallen speak of their providing the "service" you suggest above to those who escape their mechanization's, but such is a twisted lie as they ALWAYS play for KEEPS on their "chess board" of life, hence the black and white squares on the floors of Luciferians world wide. Such would be much like saying that the opponent of a gladiator is providing those they fight with the "service" of making them stronger. That is a twisting of what is actually taking place, as the risk to the spirit involved is MUCH higher than takes place in the properly balanced vineyard.
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Knowing the general guidelines and realities of this place is VERY pertinent to the spiritual growth of those here, hence the reason the Luciferians go through SO much trouble confusing that picture for their own purposes of power. However, knowing ones specific life details is detrimental in that past held grudges will not be worked out but only continued onto even greater depths of bitterness rather than "innocently" worked to conclusion in forgetfulness. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Can we talk a little more in regards 'tuning', "their song", and getting "burned"?
Isn't 'tuning' sort of like letting go, or surrendering, some of our beliefs or aspects that hinders our ability
to 'hear the song'?
What is the "burning"? Are they the very reaping experience from unwise or unknowing actions?
And all the trouble that the "Luciferians" go through to "muddy the waters"... along with all the priorities in this darker "vineyard"..... isn't the affect of that the ability to 'tune'? So all the currently worship of the qualities that are the foundation of 'this' kingdom, wouldn't you consider them worldly (or down in the muck), and that something about the ego must change from this?
the word ego... maybe i don't know what that word means... i equated that to mean "worldly ego", or things we believe about ourselves that blocks out the view of godhood, or heck even divinity itself. Which i would imagine would affect how one viewed, thought, or know about oneself and creation.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 7:00 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Yup, that's always the "Rub" here, that we never really know who, what or where the memes we come across originated. But then again, it wouldn't be a "challenge" were the entire picture simply handed to us in total as many imagine the Bible to do.
No, in finding the Kingdom, one also finds the King and Queen and as well the understanding of their Heart. THAT is the point of all of this right now. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
The "Rub" for me is that in regards to the 'priorities' of current kingdom it appears it would be hard to gain a sense of "understanding of their heart" that finds the King and Queen of that 'other' Kingdom you described. It feels something must be 'surrendered' or let go.
Do you think it is possible, that even in in 'this vineyard/kingdom'.... that other Kingdom is here and all around... we just cannot perceive it?
Even this 'quadrant of the galaxy'... is it really separate from the Kingdom on some level?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 7:09 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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I've heard many make that comment over the years, and really, one way or the other, neither assertion can be "proven". However, there are certain qualities and aspects of the human spirit that do in fact argue for just such a "king" of something SO well organized as the groups of which I speak. Were there no "king" of darkness, the likelihood that this level of organization could be maintained is very unlikely. As well, the same can be said for the king of Light.
Still though, as long as one understands THEMSELVES and lives their life in accordance of Real Love and compassion for themselves and their fellow man, the end of that "road" will find either a king or a mirror to a king, BOTH serving the well intended purpose.
.... Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Speaking of kings and light preferences... isn't it up to the being to bring out or draw inspiration from either king of darkness or light, a "mirror to a king"?
For one to "understands THEMSELVES"... perhaps leads to understanding what "Real Love" is about... which leads to how one sees themselves and their fellow man.. towards "the end of the road".
Are you sure there is no sense of 'surrendering' or transforming the ego or 'worldly' aspects of the ego involved for one to come to that sort of understanding?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 7:15 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Yeah, I've heard several different memes to that notion along the "Light Wave" sort of event that separates the wheat from the chaff etc etc etc.
Hi Saxon,
I think several replies back you mentioned memes and their 'originators' or source... so in regards to memes..
who or what was be the source of the wheat and chaff one?
memes, seems to require a 'suitable vehicle' as well that will accept it and then transmit it...
I'd like to know the idea behind what was sent out in regards to that meme.
Also, what did you mean by "Light Wave"?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 7:40 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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MASSIVE eh?
Well, let's forgo the MASSIVE and how about you show me ONE SHRED of evidence from the very years Jesus supposedly existed?
You know, the kind of evidence where the then current Emperor of Rome has his historians record things of the nature of:
"holy shit, can you believe that Jesus guy, raising people from the dead, flying through the air, turning water to wine and DOING MORE MIRACLES THAN THE BOOKS OF THE WORLD CAN CONTAIN!!!!"
How about we just focus on that TEENY TINY task for the moment shall we?
To date, not a SINGLE poster has has had ANYTHING to offer.
Hi Saxon,
So the "Emperor of Rome", did they merely present themselves as and become the 'officially licensed speakers' of a fictitious being or did they distort, and perform 'additions' "after the affects" or a real being?
A being who wanted to show people, who had fallen so low in their 'ignorance', didn't even know 'what they have always been missing'? imagine there were some beings who "made bank", continue today perhaps keeping people ignorant of 'what they've always been missing', whatever that may be.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 7:57 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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That if the children can overcome their own actions that the very fallen ones did themselves, that they can overcome all this suffering?
Thank you.
Yes, that's the notion of the Dark mixing with the Light, not that the ways of the Darkness will be adopted by the Light, but rather that these hard experiences of the Darkness will eternally stabilize the Light making it much less likely to "fall" in the future. Brilliant innocence and purity always carries the "weakness" of easy targeting by the methods of the Darkness. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Are you saying that "kindness is a weakness" here? It would be hard to argue that we live in world where kindness is a weakness, but as a beings who believe this, it paints a bleak picture.
"Targeting" - this is like the proverbial "nail that sticks out gets hammered", or "how dares you question the Codes and the Laws (heathen!!)?!?!", right?
It feels that the brilliance which seems to be the qualities of innocence and purity, which I think we all exemplified as children to some level, appears to be a factor in "getting through the eye of the needle", or heck even realize the "kingdom of heaven (on earth)".
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 8:07 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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The "two earths"...
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Yes, largely the "resonant frequency" of the person determines which of the two larger window "drag nets" they get "caught" into, the "higher and lower" ranges, hence the whole notion of the chaff and wheat as you say.
This determination is mostly based upon the Heart, although the Mind needs adequate development to assist the Heart on its way through development. Once the completed "Door" graduates from here the Mind then becomes the greater focus of development upon the "foundation" of the Heart. Generally this is where the Children of God are noted as "Stones of Fire" in that the greater this capacity to Love, the more in tune they are with the Song of our Creator, thereby resonating much like an antenna properly tuned here resonates in power. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
It most time 'feels' that is it the mind that is having a hard time listening, or getting to know, the Heart.
The bigger challenge seems for the mind to overcome some of it's, uh, 'programming', or conditioning.
It seems the mind can tune out the Heart only for so long. It feels we can bury the communication with our attachments for distractions such as pleasure, entertainment, 'convenient-thinking/groupthink', escapism, and denial.
But in the end, it seems like one can't lie to oneself any longer, and we still suffer silently, in our own way, until this is addressed in some form.
It feels this is where the "Children of God" know what this means.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 8:30 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Yes, although the goal here is to repeatedly choose to offer one's self up in Love to both one's self and others, the "ugly Truths" of this place must needs be navigated to dodge the purposed pitfalls to such successful application of Love. Love is not simply about feeling Loving, but even more about extending one's self to others when the exchange leaves one's self burning with the vehement SCORN of their anger with your offering.
In essence the term "Christ" is not a person nor the myth that has been presented to the world, but rather a Love development "level", that developed ability to "Love the Unlovable".
The balance of this realm is difficult to realize as everything has been purposely stacked against everyone here, and that balance is that between both Truth and Love, the Mind and the Heart, the Male and the Female.
Gender itself was designed as a reflection of these fundamental Truths, where the Male is more "logical" and mind oriented and the Female more Loving and Heart oriented, both synchronized for a far larger "being" than the two separate. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
In essence the term "Christ" may imply a being that is 'Christed'? A being that strives to do and express as that, minded the "Love development Level", to practice something like understanding Unconditional Love, or Real Love?, that develop the ability to "Love the Unlovable"?
Balance... this kingdom/vineyard... female and male qualies... logic and heart....
Definitely get a sense we lack balance, one aspect is adored and dominating over another. So the mind and the heart, I always perceived ego to be in more the mind category for some reason.... and in reflection of the state of the world. Do miss some of that loving Heart side of the female, the divine. This is why it feels that the mind, the ego, the worldy attachments, whatever word will work here, is the one that needs more attention and love it feels.
Or there is a lack of this aspect.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 8:45 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
"Targeting" - this is like the proverbial "nail that sticks out gets hammered", or "how dares you question the Codes and the Laws (heathen!!)?!?!", right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 611764
Hi Saxon,
This seems present alot from the ones that do alot of "targeting" - "Do as I says, not as I do!!"
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 8:59 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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"...fill my heart with song,
and let me sing forever more,
because you are all I long for,
all I worship and adore..
In other words please be true,
in other words I love you.."
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Adoration of one's parents is typical when a proper Loving relationship exists between them, so no, adoring one's parents is not improper. Worshiping is in essence the convoluted twisting of such thing into something required. This is the twisted mechanism which Lucifer et al us to hog tie the unwitting into handing over their power in fear as the primary component to worship is in fact fear.
Our Creator Parents desire in similar way to the Loving mortal Parents here, to see their children mature and ultimately become "like" them, to see them happy and to see them prosper in ALL that they are. That in a nutshell describes the desire of our Creator Parents.
It's not so much about going "toward" them as becoming "like" them, although the meme of "climbing the Mountain" does use a distance notion to symbolize this becoming.
The only thing that makes any of this Luciferian, is the corruption of the discussion we're having with the notion of FEAR, that if you don't do this YOU ARE GOING TO DIE!!!!! Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
I know what you mean in regards to the 'give me love or I give you a black eye' kind of thing.
Anyway, from the song, just saw that adoration and love towards one "Creator Parents" or their/one's own 'higher self'...which I thought was kind of rare. An adoration out of love, and gratitude for the experience to play out amongst the stars and all.
didn't see any of that fire and brimstone FEAR stuff you were walking about.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 9:04 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Simply being wealthy in no way fits the "cake walk" designation. Being wealthy is one of the greater "trials" here and wealth comes in varied forms. The rich man is equivalent to the beautiful woman in wealth terms and each is generally poorly dealt with by most "tried" spirits. Cake walk in this discussion simply means a spirit who is tried very little in a given lifetime.
Yes, everyone reaps what they sow. There are no free rides to the top of the Kingdom.
... Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon.
Sometimes, it feels like the biggest form of "caking walking" is not being true to oneself.
Kind of like having to or choosing to wear a mask that is conducive to exist in this 'this current' kingdom. (hey we all prostitutes by definition then, wow) One that doesn't even leave room for alot of things we are discussing here.
It also feels that it take alot of courage to be true to oneself especially in contrast to the truths of others, and aspects of both being 'massaged' by certain aspects of cultural and social belief systems, programming.
That being true is another form of warriorship, and that it doesn't feel like a "cake walk" most of the time.
Thank you. |
| Queerious
User ID: 592743
6/9/2009 9:20 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon
I was wondering what your view of Jesus is in all this? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 9:28 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Meekness is an often misunderstood word and is often though to mean weak, gutless and just an all around push over type of person. That's not really what that word means, especially in the older translation contexts.
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You're the expert on that topic as you're the only one holding enough information about yourself to draw that conclusion. Life loading here varies, but generally the more mature spirits have spouses and families as well as difficult contravening experiences to additionally load their lives. Typically high Kingdom loading is expressed in much the same way as it is in the Kingdom, with large family loads etc etc etc. And as I was pointing out, there are additional "amplification" factors which can GREATLY shoot those load factors to the moon, factors such as doing all of that while being cripple for example. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Id like to know more the meekness of the older contexts. I wonder if humility, innocence, purity, fertile and open minds are examples of those.
Our current meekness is weakness, or meatness is well know.
Look at how we treat our own, anything else considered 'weaker' sometimes.
In current context of belief system, which then is ego related, if we view our selves as meat and see others as meat... i wonder what that would entail. What a law of jungle kind of vineyard. Many of us seem to see the world this way in our mind, which i think ego plays a role. Some of the things it sees and acquired affects what and how it is seen on the 'outside'.
"additional amplification factors" - would a being that truly knew oneself, what it is, see it in everything, be considered an amplification factor? A being that is true to the "True" that you mentioned several times here?
Looking at how we treat our meat, mind or ego, or whatever, seems to have a hard time hearing the Heart in this matter.
But then, it does seem hard to empathize with Mind, almost like it's the wrong tool for it sometimes. Do wonder if the mind is strong, if the heart remains unheard.
Especially from those that are considered 'weaker', and get gangstered.
Thank you. |
| Uriel
User ID: 512435
6/9/2009 9:29 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Not true, because this post has to do with God, and the Jewish people were chosen by God, and the Torah was given to them.
The Jewish people were "chosen" by Lucifer(actually Set at the time), their "god", plain and simple, and one doesn't have to spend a whole lot of time in their Talmud and Kabalah to to figure that out. For the most part, the more serious Jews consider the Torah to be laughable goyim bait window dressing.
I want to know how your "God" difers from the Christian and Jewish God.
How so many generations of Christian and Specially Jewish can be so wrong.....for you to come here and undermine 1000's of years of written History and Prophecy.
You have mentioned that you have met God Himself, just wanted to know how..and what he is like.
My Creator Parents differ in that they are not Lucifer and don't speak of "punishing" children to 7th generations and wrongly treating their own Children due their WRATH and VENGEANCE. My God actually Truly Loves their Children, EVEN those who have turned against them, just like a REAL Loving parent would do here.
No one is getting a free pass here. For those who have greatly wronged their brothers and sisters, they have MUCH personal back tracking to deal with in regard to their spirit, that which involves MUCH pain and suffering. Some would consider that "penance" for what they have done, but that's not so much the goal as turning the spirit around. In all of this does forgiveness need to reign supreme, with those who have wronged to be TRULY regretful and SORRY for what they have done, and as well those they hurt willing to forgive and heal.
In such is the transformation of the darkness and the betterment of the Light. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Everyone knows the Talmud and the Kabalah is a product from Lucifer.
Not true,..for the most part true Jews are Followers of the Torah given to them by God. This does not mean they practice all what they believe, as must of us Christians dont either, everyone strugles in this life we all know that as no one is perfect, except God.
You are describing Jesus, the Son of God.
By fire gold is purified, so is love, by patience.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beggining and the end, says the Lord God, who Is and who Was and who is coming, the Almighty. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 611764
6/9/2009 9:35 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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i feel like a hermit, and do wonder if i'm being a weak fella by not being in the world. do feel really weak in this regard, most times feels like one has to 'fake it', or wear a mask to do this, and is exhausting to an extent. Can see how this is a weakness though, and do wonder if I would one of the cakewalkers you described.
definitely feel in the world, to varying degrees, but not so much of the world, but still really into different aspects of it. hope that made sense.
Thank you.
You're the expert on that topic as you're the only one holding enough information about yourself to draw that conclusion. Life loading here varies, but generally the more mature spirits have spouses and families as well as difficult contravening experiences to additionally load their lives. Typically high Kingdom loading is expressed in much the same way as it is in the Kingdom, with large family loads etc etc etc. And as I was pointing out, there are additional "amplification" factors which can GREATLY shoot those load factors to the moon, factors such as doing all of that while being cripple for example. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Thank you for that and do agree with you. However I was also sort of asking you on the 'bro' level if you have ever experienced this.
What do you mean by "large family loads" in regards to the Kingdom?
"Life loading" - you mean individual challenges and life lessons?
Thank you. |
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