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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 10:52 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"THE" goal is something realized by each spirit in the final forming of the Door to Heaven. Twin Flame pairs are "Love power injection points" into the "wall" or societal structure of Heaven. All other Love radiates due these unions, hence the reason that these unions were initially targeted to blow holes in the once impenetrable wall separating the mortal and immortal realms. So, even the more general Love which extends between the "strangers" of Heaven is sourced from the more powerful fundamental Flame unions.

Pretty much. One could make a mental decision to "serve" others, but such would never be sufficient to the task on a long term continual basis. Only Heart power is up to such a task.


Real Love embraces others and allows them to be who and what they are at that time. Real Love continues even through the hurts of the short sights of others. As you say, most all people know the "Right" thing to do in regards to Real Love, they however find themselves short on Heart power to realize that action.

One cannot Love themselves without knowing themselves. Therefore, the first step in Loving one's self is knowing themselves. So taking an honest look at one's self and understanding that information postures one for the next step of accepting that person and Loving them. Once then one Loves themselves, THEN can they go further to Love others around them and/or their Twin Flame. All of this is a building process.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

How does one REALIZE such a thing?, ;)

What is relying on Heart Power like, is it like an inner power? We seem to have a hard time with the “mental decision” you described, does this imply that most of our minds have not realized such power yet, individually?
Would it be fair to say that our ‘programming’, perhaps subtly, tunes us out of Heart power, and thus we find ourselves short on this?

“One cannot Love themselves without knowing themselves”… very lovely. Is this like where one cannot truly help another until they remove the “plank” from one’s eye first (and so see clearly to even attempt to remove the tiny speck in the neighbor)?

This “building process”,,, it seems much ‘harder’ than it should, this getting to KNOW oneself. This feels like a cosmic funny in a sense because this one is having a hard time getting to Know Thyself… which who else can show another their oneself. But also depressing, and have a hard loving oneself, which I can also see how I love others around me. Can you relate or have any interesting ideas in this respect?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 10:57 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon is full of Saxon.

Saxon worships and adores Saxon.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 11:00 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon is full of Saxon.

Saxon worships and adores Saxon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691474

Like all cult leaders.

Saxon exalts himself and his own "understanding."

Like all cult leaders, Saxon attacks Christianity and claims that he has the real knowledge thate scapes all others.

If he does not repent of his ego, Saxon will go to hell.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 11:01 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon cannot acceptcriticism or challenge without erupting in the most vulgar and insulting assaults,

in his humble opinion, of course.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 11:03 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Those here who have had a "come to jesus" experience have usually experienced the first part of a "tune" attempt in regards to the "Song" of our Creator. And, as you stated earlier, such requires a "letting go", or a position shift in that regard of our Hearts. So, if one envisions an actual antenna, rotatable in all spherical aspects, then one gets the idea of the Heart tune.

So, when one "lets go" and allows the antenna to shift, for a short time the antenna will pass through a close approximation of the "tune" and therefore generate the big feelings of Love people get for short times in those circles. The "listening" is inherent to the person tuning with a generalized resonance of the person with the power being tuned by their Heart. For a short time one will see that person make outward changes to their lives in accordance with the Love they are briefly tuning, but such is generally short lived due their lack of understanding in regards to these things.

In Christian circles, since they believe their "letting go" and "letting god" to be the whole of the effort, they then have numerous anti-backsliding events in an effort to repeat the experience.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

What is a “come to jesus” experience?

What does it mean to "Let go"? Doesn't that naturally involve a surrendering of some sort, which involves a Trust of some kind? Also isn't this again an ego/mind thing? also that we don't know what this means or feel there is no need for such?

How does one overcome the “generally short lived” aspect of this tuning, or gain more understanding to do this?
Can you speak more on what you mean of “anti-backsliding events”?

Thank you
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 11:13 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote


Yes, all good traps use good bait. That's always the point. Few are they who can steal the bait without getting caught in the trap.

Hegelian Dialectic is a mind/masses manipulation tool originated in ancient Greece. The manipulator looks to drive an outcome by making those changing think they are the ones making the change. The common terms are:

Thesis
...................Synthesis
Antithesis


The manipulator wants to move either the person or the entire "Masses" from the Thesis point of the discussion to the Synthesis position, and to do so creates the paper tiger Antithesis position to drive the "herd" from the original Thesis position.

For instance, you the manipulator want to move the masses off of the anti-abortion stance to an initial softer stance on abortion. Therefore, you create huge publicity about the horrors of women dying trying to do their own, or story after story of rapes etc to drive the herd to the softer stance. In this case, "incrementalism" is utilized in steps to reach the desired destination of total public acceptance to murdering their own children.
Same "gods/goddesses", different day.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,
Is that like causing some ‘problem’ only to later implement the desired/engineered ‘solution’? Like implementing someone’s order, out of chaos or something like that?
What is venus or isis goddess all about.. the former seemed to represent “divine feminity”, is this the case?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704532
6/20/2009 11:30 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon is full of Saxon.

Saxon worships and adores Saxon.

Like all cult leaders.

Saxon exalts himself and his own "understanding."

Like all cult leaders, Saxon attacks Christianity and claims that he has the real knowledge thate scapes all others.

If he does not repent of his ego, Saxon will go to hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691474

Agreed......"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables." 2Tim 4: 3-4
wing-ed
User ID: 706961
6/20/2009 11:33 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 11:35 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon words are fine and dandy until you read this part....

"Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords."

Newbie spirits?
Raw materials?
Production line?

Saxon thinks he has a handle on Gods plan.
Nothing could be further from truth.
Our spiritual bodies are billions of years old and we sang as Star together rejoicing and singing with happiness long before this dispensation.
What does the bible say about what I just posted?
Job 38:7 is the answer.
God calls us His stars....

You have been had by Saxon and you feel for his false wisdom hook line and sinker.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 11:36 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon words are fine and dandy until you read this part....

"Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords."

Newbie spirits?
Raw materials?
Production line?

Saxon thinks he has a handle on Gods plan.
Nothing could be further from truth.
Our spiritual bodies are billions of years old and we sang as Star together rejoicing and singing with happiness long before this dispensation.
What does the bible say about what I just posted?
Job 38:7 is the answer.
God calls us His stars....

You have been had by Saxon and you feel for his false wisdom hook line and sinker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687974

Correcting two words. Star = stars
feel = fell. Speed typing does that to ya... lol
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 11:39 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
 Quoting: wing-ed

Hello! How is Winged today?
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 11:52 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

If you pay attention to what Saxon is saying, you can catch his huge mistakes.
For an example look at these two expressions and reasonings that he has projected to all of us and see that they both are a counter diction of each other...

Saxons words;

Our Creator did no such thing. Many of us FREELY CHOSE this pathetic existence at the beginning of time, listening to the "beautiful teachings" of Lucifer et al.


Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

----------------------------------------------
He projects to us that we are a "raw materials, and "newbie" spirits, then he states that "at the beginning of time listening to the teachings of Lucifer".

So what is it? Are we raw materials newbie spirits or ancient spirits that had trouble with Lucifer from the beginning.

Hey ladies and gents, from the beginning of time of our creation of our spiritual bodies we sang and rejoiced. It was billions of years later that Lucifer and or Satan tried to take the thrown of God.

I know Saxon will come down on me for posting this and pointing this out to you all, but we will watch his skilled verbal entrepreneur expressions to try and nail me as he does anyone that goes against his mental supposition personal belief which is based on nothing but "self".
Sorry Saxon for pointing this out. Now lets see your inner self and what you think of anyone going against what you are sharing and we will see your soul.
No facts at all is what I see from you.
I want truth, not someones personal expression of what they think Gods plan is. Present them if you have the truth in you.
The Boss
User ID: 636782
6/20/2009 11:56 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.


As with any good parent, the child is allowed to experience things on their own with the parent lending assistance at minimal times as to not spoil the child.

As well, suffering is the great "hammer" in the "forge" of Mother Earths spirit development school. And much like a weight training facility, some of the mature spirits can lift heavy weights (endure much suffering) while other more immature newbie spirits get crushed by the lightest of weights.

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

In such do these lives here form the spirits of the Children of God.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)




Let the good times roll.
Pardon me for interrupting your premature celebration, but I thought it only fair to give you a sporting chance as you are new to this game.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 11:58 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Simply put, incarnation here is totally different from the immortal bodies of Heaven. The most ugly of spirits can incarnate here now into the most beautiful of bodies. Such is a training tool like everything else here. Outside of here, one's outward appearance directly reflects the condition of the spirit contained within. The power of the spirit though is such that over many years, even the predetermined "look" of a person can be altered due to the sheer driving power of the spirit.

Think of bodies as the reward for a job well done. A job poorly done results in a body to looks like the poor job. The beautiful and bright and shining body is the result of job/jobs well done, the culmination of the proper development of that spirit.

HOWEVER, currently, in the midst of the rebellion, the rebellion HAVE in fact developed a spirit power leaching ability which has them looking FAR FAR better than is justified by the sucky condition of their spirits. So, viewer beware. Some have said the difference for these can be seen in their more blue hue appearance.


Actually, many of them have reached that point, hence the timing of inciting the "rebellion to the rebellion" through the ranks of the fallen Divine Feminine.

But yes, the "love" exchanged mostly amongst this group is exactly as you describe, as "love" based on deception is not Love at all, but only a sad reflection, an mirage in the desert. That's why the "arrow shot" was so affective in that the fallen Divine Feminine has been starving to death for a long long time now.

I always ask Christians, that were I to hand them a magic wand which could make anyone they touched with the wand fall in love with them, would they use it? And of course non of them sign up for that wand while at the same time saying that their "god" is going to magically "change their minds" at "resurrection". Such can never be True, as our Creator is no more interested in "love droids" than we are.

There is no substitution for Real Love, and our Hearts know the difference.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

What are incarnations here like? Does one reincarnate same gender/sex? Does the this go the same for the ‘separated twin flame’ as well?

So eventually, no matter what one does… even the physical vehicle will reflect the quality of the spirit, or ones soul? Also what’s up with “blue hue”?

Can you explain more what you mean by “arrow shot”? So the “fallen divine females” had a change of heart, or gained a certain realization you mean? Can you say more?

“Love droids”? If we do not even know what this is, aren’t we all love droids in a sense?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 12:03 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon words are fine and dandy until you read this part....

"Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords."

Newbie spirits?
Raw materials?
Production line?

Saxon thinks he has a handle on Gods plan.
Nothing could be further from truth.
Our spiritual bodies are billions of years old and we sang as Star together rejoicing and singing with happiness long before this dispensation.
What does the bible say about what I just posted?
Job 38:7 is the answer.
God calls us His stars....

You have been had by Saxon and you feel for his false wisdom hook line and sinker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687974



Hi there,

Not at all fellers.. just asking questions, and whatever it is one sees or hears, it is their own responsibility, by ones own discernment, how it is taken.

Part of seeking, is seeking, and asking questions and having dialogue does seem to be a part of that.

I appreciate your concern. Thank you.
wing-ed
User ID: 706961
6/20/2009 12:04 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. Praise The Lamb:: Amen

Hello! How is Winged today?
 Quoting: Little Star

Good Little Star having a access problem ! Internet was down for a day and my new IP number was banned ! I got in using a proxy but the forum page is expanded double on it !! Making the page hard to read . Heading to Cedar Rapids to see my Dad for fathers day ! Pray all is well with you Brother !! Praise Jesus in all things !! Amen
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:07 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. Praise The Lamb:: Amen

Hello! How is Winged today?

Good Little Star having a access problem ! Internet was down for a day and my new IP number was banned ! I got in using a proxy but the forum page is expanded double on it !! Making the page hard to read . Heading to Cedar Rapids to see my Dad for fathers day ! Pray all is well with you Brother !! Praise Jesus in all things !! Amen
 Quoting: wing-ed

Doing fine.
Tell your folks, we love them down here...
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:08 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Our Creator, OTOH is the originator of those fine immortal bodies that the fallen are so hellbent on copying to their own ends. In such we, the creators of mortal bodies, are but again a mirror image of our Creator Mother and Father, and in such do they draw great pleasure and enjoyment watching their children grow.

Above is what Axon wrote...

Isn't that the Star Wars Character?
Sure it is!

Made me laugh..
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:10 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon cannot acceptcriticism or challenge without erupting in the most vulgar and insulting assaults,

in his humble opinion, of course.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691474

That is what you call "higher expression of wisdom". lol
spacie
User ID: 707296
6/20/2009 12:17 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.


As with any good parent, the child is allowed to experience things on their own with the parent lending assistance at minimal times as to not spoil the child.

As well, suffering is the great "hammer" in the "forge" of Mother Earths spirit development school. And much like a weight training facility, some of the mature spirits can lift heavy weights (endure much suffering) while other more immature newbie spirits get crushed by the lightest of weights.

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

In such do these lives here form the spirits of the Children of God.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

in my NDE, i was amazed at the clarity of mind and NO MORE PHYSICAL PAIN !
this 3d life is about learning manifestation in the physical.
there really is no right or wrong...
just that never ending duality.
reflected also by our left brain, right brain.
god/creation is pure energy/mind......
you cannot destroy creation like that !
you can mingle with it....and branch off on your own adventure.
being physical can be painful.
we have numerous sensors to guide us thru this life.....
to steer us toward more and more pleasure/LOVE.
more love, more light.
return to creation...feed the source.
infinity.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 380880
6/20/2009 12:17 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

in my opinion, if there is a god, it lets us decide. we have here at our disposal all the raw materials we need, to do with our fate whatever we want. i think god is wondering why we keep pointing the finger at him asking what he's going to do about our refusal to do for ourselves. people have this fear of playing god, it's holding us back as a species. what we have to realise is that, in our refusal to make the giant god-like decisions, which need to be made to move forward and out of the nest so to speak, we are still playing god, we are still choosing our fate.

we can be the over grown kid that wastes all our parents taught us , choosing to slouch , drink, get high, then whine to mommy and daddy for another helping hand, all the while blaming them for our life. or we
get over our fears ans immaturity, pull our boot straps up and do something productive with ourselves.
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:18 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon is not on line right now, but he will have plenty of time to ponder each posting.
You can count on him being spectacular in his response.

After all, out of clouds comes a great mystery, and that mystery is finding where to drop the rain..

And in our case, it will be acid rain... lol
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:21 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.


As with any good parent, the child is allowed to experience things on their own with the parent lending assistance at minimal times as to not spoil the child.

As well, suffering is the great "hammer" in the "forge" of Mother Earths spirit development school. And much like a weight training facility, some of the mature spirits can lift heavy weights (endure much suffering) while other more immature newbie spirits get crushed by the lightest of weights.

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

In such do these lives here form the spirits of the Children of God.

in my NDE, i was amazed at the clarity of mind and NO MORE PHYSICAL PAIN !
this 3d life is about learning manifestation in the physical.
there really is no right or wrong...
just that never ending duality.
reflected also by our left brain, right brain.
god/creation is pure energy/mind......
you cannot destroy creation like that !
you can mingle with it....and branch off on your own adventure.
being physical can be painful.
we have numerous sensors to guide us thru this life.....
to steer us toward more and more pleasure/LOVE.
more love, more light.
return to creation...feed the source.
infinity.
 Quoting: spacie 707296

I too have had a NDE and one thing is very clear. LOVE and the clarity of mind is for sure.
There are many that claim that NDE, but I know a real one (NDE person) when I hear them share their info.
You are speaking truth and how I know this is the words you express in saying "love, more light, infinity"..
Those who cross over and are put back into their flesh bodies always have one huge expression.. And it is "LOVE" to all.
Many blessings to you...

Last Edited by Little Star on 6/20/2009 at 12:23 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 707390
6/20/2009 12:24 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

the answer is gnostiscm

god is evil

check www.xeeatwelve.com


this world is created by the devil that we call god.
Uriel
User ID: 512435
6/20/2009 12:27 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. Praise The Lamb:: Amen
 Quoting: wing-ed

bump
By fire gold is purified, so is love, by patience.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beggining and the end, says the Lord God, who Is and who Was and who is coming, the Almighty.
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:32 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

the answer is gnostiscm

god is evil

check www.xeeatwelve.com


this world is created by the devil that we call god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 707390

Well that is find and dandy that you posted this info.
But did you know that what Amitakh Stanford says is going on is what Saxon 777 says is not...

For an example Amitakh Stanford says this...
'Anunnaki propaganda from the astral world wants searchers to believe that the Earth is a classroom for learning lessons. This is false; the truth is that the Earth is a battlefield."

After all, look at Saxon's info, he says we are in a "classroom" of learning.. Right? Is that not what he states?
So who is right and who is wrong?

LOVE is the real answer....Can you dig it?
Can you find your inner self to the point where you can love yourself and love others without boundaries?

I bet Spacie 707296 can back me up since having a NDE knowing that LOVE is the highest form of anything...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 12:34 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yes, Atlantis is the "jewel" of Lucifer and the fallen, and it is this which they continually labor to "raise" in the minds of the people here. It has nothing to do with physically raising the old city.

And yes, it was Atlantis which majored in body "monkeying" through DNA manipulation.

Yes, correct. However, direct reincarnation from "hell" is typically not allowed. However, Sexual Ritual Magik is utilized by the fallen to short circuit this purposed limitation.

Our Creator is called "the Lord of the Spirits", not the lord of the human form. However, the human form is the final desired form for the heaven "Jump" as they are the closest to the form of the "Elohim". That's why the Elohim declared of their "creation", "hey, wow, they look like us".
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

Hi Saxon,

What was that fellow’s “jewel” times like, what was it like for humanity? Was it a time when folks worshipped ‘godlike’ beings that openly walked amongst man? Were people kind to one another, advanced, more ‘tuned’?

What is the “monkeying”? Atlantis myths seem to describe a time of “slave-creatures”, DNA manipulation, kinds of beings… was that humanity, or the aftereffects of the tampering?

Also what we are told of as “junk DNA” what do you think that is?

The “wow, they look like us”… are they referring to our humanity’s current forms, if so before or after “monkeying”?
So who are the Elohm again? Were they the ‘watchers that watches the watchers’, or something? (if so who watches them?) Why did you say that the “Elohim declared of their “creation””? Doesn’t the Father-Mother-Love create Creation?

Thank you.
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:34 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

John 3:16 is based on "love"... Can you dig it?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 12:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Who is Joshua ben Joseph circa early AD Palestine? Wouldn't the Pharisees or perhaps even them priests from Babylon would have a problem with what he was saying? From your website you made it sound like he 'worked' for them, but from what I have read he seemed to have been seen as a huge insurrectionist by the temple priests of that time.

Thank you.



Hard to say really since the "historians" are the greatest liars the world has ever known. You can pretty much take everything they tell you in regards to history with a grain of salt. lol

I've heard the name thrown around here and there as the "real jesus", but who honestly even knows he ever existed? In any regard, it doesn't really matter as he most certainly wasn't a dying demi-god that took away the "sins" of the world. CLEARLY, all the "sins" of this world are STILL fully INTACT. lol
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

It didn't seem like the churches I experienced ever spoke about the things I stated here regarding that figure is what im saying. That the moving things I found didn't seem like the things taught from our churches or from history scholars, is the point.

Thank you.
Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yes, Atlantis is the "jewel" of Lucifer and the fallen, and it is this which they continually labor to "raise" in the minds of the people here. It has nothing to do with physically raising the old city.

And yes, it was Atlantis which majored in body "monkeying" through DNA manipulation.

Yes, correct. However, direct reincarnation from "hell" is typically not allowed. However, Sexual Ritual Magik is utilized by the fallen to short circuit this purposed limitation.

Our Creator is called "the Lord of the Spirits", not the lord of the human form. However, the human form is the final desired form for the heaven "Jump" as they are the closest to the form of the "Elohim". That's why the Elohim declared of their "creation", "hey, wow, they look like us".


Hi Saxon,

What was that fellow’s “jewel” times like, what was it like for humanity? Was it a time when folks worshipped ‘godlike’ beings that openly walked amongst man? Were people kind to one another, advanced, more ‘tuned’?

What is the “monkeying”? Atlantis myths seem to describe a time of “slave-creatures”, DNA manipulation, kinds of beings… was that humanity, or the aftereffects of the tampering?

Also what we are told of as “junk DNA” what do you think that is?

The “wow, they look like us”… are they referring to our humanity’s current forms, if so before or after “monkeying”?
So who are the Elohm again? Were they the ‘watchers that watches the watchers’, or something? (if so who watches them?) Why did you say that the “Elohim declared of their “creation””? Doesn’t the Father-Mother-Love create Creation?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821

Waah-haalu are the DNA junkies.. lol
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