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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 12:44 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Real Love is knowable here, but the difficulty is realizing such amidst the continual Heart beating handed out here to stop such.
Think of Love as water, and that each person has a self filling glass in their hand which naturally fills with water. In such example, anyone can drink as much as they like from the glass of another, but not from their own glass. As long as everyone extends their glass for drinking, everything is fine. It is not until more and more of the crowd drink while no longer extending their own glass. In the current world, not only is there no water being offered, but the glasses that are extended are now filled with straight alcohol or worst, poisoned water. So, not only is everyone thirsting to death, many are spiritually dying while others so roaring drunk they've lost all spiritual perspective.
Hi Saxon,
Have you ever read Stranger in a Strange Land?
"Thou art God, May you always drink deep May you never be thirsty...
...The essence of the discipline is, first, self-awareness, then, self control."
- Michael Valentine Smith
May you (all of us) always drink deep and Grok in fullness...Share water.
No, can't say as I have and it looks interesting.
However, the "Thou art God" can be very misleading, as such is generally based in the opinion that "we" as a collective, is all that there is. Such is unTrue, and those unable to walk into the presence of our Creator always stand afar off seeing the "galactic volcano" imagining our very Creator to be is insentient as a volcano here.
Assuredly, we are NOT "God".
Hi Saxon,
It seemed to be about a character, who was a stranger here, and felt like a stranger among a people that could not see 'divinity' in themselves, so in others as well. Also saddened for seeing what people do to themselves from this.
Thank you. |
| spacie
User ID: 707296
6/20/2009 12:47 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
[[[[ hug ]]]]
to little star.
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| Little Star
User ID: 687974
6/20/2009 12:51 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
[[[[ hug ]]]]
to little star.
Love ya back!!! You got the truth... |
| spacie
User ID: 707296
6/20/2009 12:58 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
the answer is gnostiscm
god is evil
check www.xeeatwelve.com
this world is created by the devil that we call god.
Well that is find and dandy that you posted this info.
But did you know that what Amitakh Stanford says is going on is what Saxon 777 says is not...
For an example Amitakh Stanford says this...
'Anunnaki propaganda from the astral world wants searchers to believe that the Earth is a classroom for learning lessons. This is false; the truth is that the Earth is a battlefield."
After all, look at Saxon's info, he says we are in a "classroom" of learning.. Right? Is that not what he states?
So who is right and who is wrong?
LOVE is the real answer....Can you dig it?
Can you find your inner self to the point where you can love yourself and love others without boundaries?
I bet Spacie 707296 can back me up since having a NDE knowing that LOVE is the highest form of anything... Quoting: Little Star
YES !!
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| childoflight
User ID: 707352
6/20/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Suffering is penance that many pay in this world to attone for their actions in past lives. Some may choose to suffer in order to teach great truths to humanity as a whole and in so doing they do not have to be reborn onto this plane of existence. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/20/2009 1:08 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
"When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will know that you are the sons of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty, and you are poverty." - Gospel of Thomas
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Actually, sons/daughters of the living Father AND Mother. The Poverty part is True, but the situation is certainly NOT that insulting and degrading any more than one walks into a daycare, looks around and says, "these children are in poverty due their immaturity". No man or woman of the True Father and Mother would ever be so insulting to their Children.
"..Be on your guard so that no one deceives you by saying, 'Look over here!' or 'Look over there!' For the child of true Humanity exists within you. Follow it! Those who search for it will find it." - Gospel of Mary of Magdala
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The child of True Humanity CAN exist within you. Such always depends upon WHICH "child" you nurture, immaturity or maturity. One can spend many lifetimes chasing after immaturity, as immaturity "feels good" while maturity is hard and HURTS.
Yes, those who SEARCH for it will find it, and those who do NOT search for it will NOT find it.
What do you feel the Dead Sea Scrolls were about, were they hidden to safely preserve some knowledge or something else?
Thank you.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
I'm sure they were hidden to likely keep them out of the hands of the people who just once again confiscated them. In short, the very people from who they were once hidden have now taken that whole stash and has been sitting on them for almost a century now, doling out contrived little pieces here and there like the "experts" they always pass themselves off as. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Maybe by “poverty” it meant that no matter how good one can get it in ‘this kingdom’, if one does not KNOW the “Father(Mother-Love)”, we all are in poverty, we just don’t know it. Maybe, start to miss what we no longer know, but do feel we KNEW at one point.
Those scrolls did seem to get ‘appropriated’ by scholarticians.
Doling out, or revealing bits and pieces.. isn’t that like the well known carrot on a stick kind of thing? Easy to get followers, and ultimately entrapping because the followers eventually come to believe they find Knowing outside oneself? also seems to foster 'smugness' and 'illusional' power over others gained from others not having Knowledge, for self empowerment.
Thank you. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 2:14 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
Can you speak more in regards to “getting caught here”… is that a sense of not remembering, or more like caught up in the ‘programming’? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Getting caught here has to do with being overcome by circumstances here and losing enough "Heart power" to make it back out. According to some that I saw in the ancient Hebrew, the front line Watcher group can sometimes get so caught up in what is going on here that they "fall" or get "thrown" back into this place for a little rework.
Can you speak more in regards to twin flames? Is that like for me, there would be another ladyfriend that is this one’s twin flame walking the earth, or is the other flame ‘somewhere else’, a more divine plane of existence? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
That depends from person to person, as each situation is specific to what's going on with the two. Typically spirits come with both a male female "half", although there are said to be smaller scale departures from that format with extremely powerful guys as shown in the Kolbrin who sometimes have several wives.
Also is the concept of the opposite twin flame an opposite in a sexual nature as well, like gender, gender qualities? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
They are male and female as do general families build here. If you'll notice, even the homosexual relationships here tend to form the male/female balance type arrangement as well. It's simply a fundamental aspect of our collective being.
When you hear people say that they are married to their “soul mates” are they saying they are married to their twin flames? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
I'm sure that varies from person to person, but yes, I suspect most are using a different/wrong word to describe their "ultimate" relationship. The Truth of that situation is that each of us has a sizable number of "soul mates" with whom we are able to build very memorable relationships. However, that in no way means that they are one's Twin Flame. Soul mates are used for final preparation of spirits prior to putting them with their Twin Flames
Also what are “the Doorway to Heaven, Jachin and Boaz? Is this like a symbolic thing or physical columns somewhere in the desert kind of thing? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Jachin and Boaz as a Twin Flame notation comes from the Jewish Mystic Occult quarters and is likely the original meaning of that symbol. And of course, those "holding" that symbol now would say I was full of crap etc in what I'm saying. But, that's how Lucifer, their "god" works, redefining the Truth and hiding it right back under their collective noses.
This is totally a symbolic kind of thing, although the mystic occult crowd carry such much further, to the point of putting each of the two pillars from Egypt, one in Central Park in America and one in London so as to span the Atlantic. They did such because they misunderstand the meaning of the "magic" which exists between the two, and/or to simply "hijack" the power associated with the symbol.
Also can you talk about the “children” represented by the 12 pillars, what is that about?
Does this have anything to do with 12 + 1, which I do know about but have seen examples of like the number of disciples and such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
The "12" is purportedly associated with the 12 constellations around us and hence the "cross" of this earth as such projects here. And as you are saying, they've "Hidden" the Ophiuchus constellation since its showing 2000 years ago. Ophiuchus probably "flagged" the coming of the "One" who is many names to many different peoples, but as far as I can tell, looks to be "Horus" returned. Many have looked to steal that identity over the millenia.
In that way then, Lucifer, the "god/king" of this realm then looked to be the 13th man of the group, thereby hijacking the "inheritance" of his brother, Horus.
The children represented by the 12 pillars in Solomon's (a notorious mystic occultist of his day) Temple are the physical descendants of Lucifer, or the physical descendants of "Cain", Lucifer's first male child. Some refer to them as "Kenites".
Also, in case of the two twin flames and the two pillars, is 1 + 1 = 1 here? Like a unity of halves or something like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yeah, something like that, and as well the reason our Creator calls "themselves", The Self Existent ONE even though "they" present as the two "halves" of Mother Earth and Father Heaven. In short, the whole gender format was created specifically for the purposes of supplying the "vehicle" in which Real Love can be "lived".
Ophiuchus – can you speak more in regards to being “hidden” and the “showing up 2000 years ago”?
Thank you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
That's about all I know about it, is that Ophiuchus the constellation was not "there" until then. Possibly I covered that more here:
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And like many things, there's probably disagreement as to when that constellation "arrived".
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 2:19 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
If you knew Scripture you would know that once you become a genuine Christian you are no longer under the law, but under grace. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704532
Such could never be True, as the Law only gives way to Real Love, and that "event" is determined by the attained spiritual maturity of the person in question. Until then, the spiritual "toddler" will continue on using the "training wheels" of the Law. A man operating in Real Love needs no Law. And of course your false doctrine seeks to confuse and mask that Truth.
What are the complete tenets of Saxonism?.....so that they too can be examined. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704532
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All Spiritual Topics bearing my name were personally written by myself. I have never hidden in regard to what I see and believe.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 2:41 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
"THE" goal is something realized by each spirit in the final forming of the Door to Heaven. Twin Flame pairs are "Love power injection points" into the "wall" or societal structure of Heaven. All other Love radiates due these unions, hence the reason that these unions were initially targeted to blow holes in the once impenetrable wall separating the mortal and immortal realms. So, even the more general Love which extends between the "strangers" of Heaven is sourced from the more powerful fundamental Flame unions.
Pretty much. One could make a mental decision to "serve" others, but such would never be sufficient to the task on a long term continual basis. Only Heart power is up to such a task.
Real Love embraces others and allows them to be who and what they are at that time. Real Love continues even through the hurts of the short sights of others. As you say, most all people know the "Right" thing to do in regards to Real Love, they however find themselves short on Heart power to realize that action.
One cannot Love themselves without knowing themselves. Therefore, the first step in Loving one's self is knowing themselves. So taking an honest look at one's self and understanding that information postures one for the next step of accepting that person and Loving them. Once then one Loves themselves, THEN can they go further to Love others around them and/or their Twin Flame. All of this is a building process.
Hi Saxon,
How does one REALIZE such a thing?, ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
One "realizes" such a thing in the spirit forge of this Earth. Each consecutive life builds the many aspects of the spirit, but here, mainly the Heart aspects. All the "hard" things one endures allows them then to have REAL compassion for another they see enduring the same. All of the aspects of Love are "potentialized" in such a way.
What is relying on Heart Power like, is it like an inner power? We seem to have a hard time with the “mental decision” you described, does this imply that most of our minds have not realized such power yet, individually? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Heart power is the aspect of one's self which has them putting themselves in harms way for the good of another in spite of the warnings being issued by their mind. And most would take these words and imagine someone risking their body for another, but such is actually a smaller aspect of the development, as the offering of one's Heart to another is the greatest gift known. Heart power is an extreme inner power, the loss or lacking of which greatly destabilizes someone who ignores such to then focus on nothing but the Mind.
Would it be fair to say that our ‘programming’, perhaps subtly, tunes us out of Heart power, and thus we find ourselves short on this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, much so, as the usurping rulers of this world know full well the "score" when it comes to those things. Their power is directly proportional to the number of spirits they can trap here in confusion, hence their reason for creating all the language barriers etc a Babylon. We have all been taught from birth that "success" is defined in things attained with the Mind, and that "romance" is cute and "silly". The Truth could not be twisted more as Real Love is the ONLY thing transferable from this realm.
“One cannot Love themselves without knowing themselves”… very lovely. Is this like where one cannot truly help another until they remove the “plank” from one’s eye first (and so see clearly to even attempt to remove the tiny speck in the neighbor)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Sort of. Really, it's more like putting on YOUR oxygen mask on a crashing plane before putting on those of your children. You cannot offer something to another that you yourself do not have. Typically the obsessively "altruistic" types do such things in an attempt to convince themselves of their own Love "worthiness". The giving of Love is something that generally follows the Love "construct" I explained earlier, and anything which jeopardizes the primary Love structure for the more general Love aspects is in fact a grave error.
This “building process”,,, it seems much ‘harder’ than it should, this getting to KNOW oneself. This feels like a cosmic funny in a sense because this one is having a hard time getting to Know Thyself… which who else can show another their oneself. But also depressing, and have a hard loving oneself, which I can also see how I love others around me. Can you relate or have any interesting ideas in this respect?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Loving yourself is generally found on the road to respecting yourself. Therefore, the many experiences you come across in life in which you honorably perform to your own high expectations, adds to one's self respect. We call that "self esteem" in today's society so as to confuse the topic. One's self respect could never be "given" as so many have been deceived to believe as only YOU can build your self respect. A man with True self respect needs no one around him to hold him up in regards to his own self image. And ultimately it is THAT man that one "falls" in Love with.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 2:45 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon is full of Saxon.
Saxon worships and adores Saxon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691474
True to a point, Saxon greatly Loves Saxon, it is True. For if such were not True, how could I EVER Love you?
As for "worship", that's for the deceived. I'll leave that to yourself apparently.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 2:51 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon is full of Saxon.
Saxon worships and adores Saxon.
Like all cult leaders.
Saxon exalts himself and his own "understanding."
Like all cult leaders, Saxon attacks Christianity and claims that he has the real knowledge thate scapes all others.
If he does not repent of his ego, Saxon will go to hell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691474
So, I've graduated to "cult leader" now eh? That's funny, because I would suspect that I'd need "followers" to have such, no? Feel free to "out" my supposed "followers". 
Yes, Saxon stands on Saxon's own two feet and grovels before NO man or NO "god". You who consider your own cowardice to be a virtue, hate those like myself who give contrast to your weak spirit.
I need not "attack" Christianity, but rather to simply point out its GLARING inconsistencies and multitudinous ERRORS in both Love and Logic.
As well, Saxon will never take the "advice", accusations and/or charges from a coward such as yourself.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 2:51 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
"like" |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 2:53 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon cannot acceptcriticism or challenge without erupting in the most vulgar and insulting assaults,
in his humble opinion, of course. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 691474
Really? And your showing up on my thread to cast me into hell and threaten me is your version of good tempered good will?
Feel free to point out my "vulgarity" whenever the mood strikes, as a liar is best seen on the carpet.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 2:55 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
On the day you die, what a terrible prospect to be before the One you have spent your life denying and opposing while exalting yourself.
What day is that? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441472
6/20/2009 2:55 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
ok..
light is light
so..
neutrino and antibeutrino in unity make the cosmic ray, yes?
them..
the cosmic ray and anticosmic ray would be forming what?
and.. that answared and its anti- is eg-z-act-ly what..? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 2:56 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon cannot acceptcriticism or challenge without erupting in the most vulgar and insulting assaults,
in his humble opinion, of course.
Really? And your showing up on my thread to cast me into hell and threaten me is your version of good tempered good will?
Feel free to point out my "vulgarity" whenever the mood strikes, as a liar is best seen on the carpet. Quoting: Saxon (777)
I cast no one anywhere.
I caution and exhort.
You have vulgarly insulted me countless times. I need no search and I do not lie. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 2:58 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
I am nothing and never extoll myself.
You lift up yourself and your own superiority complex
while denying The One that permits your heart to continue beating.
He is obviously patient and long-suffering... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 691474
6/20/2009 3:00 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Your God is yourself.
You are no God at all.
You are dirt. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 3:07 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
What is a “come to jesus” experience? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
A "come to jesus" experience is that of experiencing a "revival meeting" or other church "service" in which a person becomes so guilty that they are "convicted" of their "sin" and "need" to be "saved" by "jesus". In other words, one needs to realize that they're going to be tormented in hell endlessly unless they jump up and go grovel before the "lord". aka, Lucifer.
In any regard, sometimes this event has emotional feelings of "surrender" involved with crying and what not. This COULD be the beginning of something more worthwhile were not the WHOLE focus removed from the person and put on Lucifer. This COULD have been the first steps in seeing one's self as they Truly are.
What does it mean to "Let go"? Doesn't that naturally involve a surrendering of some sort, which involves a Trust of some kind? Also isn't this again an ego/mind thing? also that we don't know what this means or feel there is no need for such? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
"Letting go" is generally the letting go of rationalizations and denials that a person puts up to cover over their shortcomings. So, this aspect of someone CAN be the first steps down the road to Loving themselves. Sadly, in Christian circles one is deceived into thinking that they are "worthless", and CERTAINLY NOT someone "worthy" of Love regardless WHAT they may do.
And yes, such involves the Ego as the Ego is "defense" central, the control which has people believing themselves to be much "better" than they really are. People in this stage are called "Two Hearted" by the NA, where they have two sets of books they keep, one easy set from themselves, and one excessively HARD one for everyone else.
How does one overcome the “generally short lived” aspect of this tuning, or gain more understanding to do this?
Can you speak more on what you mean of “anti-backsliding events”?
Thank you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Tuning ability comes with experience, much like the balance of riding a bike comes with much practice and training wheels. An immature spirit cannot tune long term as they lack the "practice" and desire to do such. To them it's just about "feeling good", much the same way they see sex.
The anti-backsliding events are generally called "revivals" in Christian circles.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 3:14 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
…
Yes, all good traps use good bait. That's always the point. Few are they who can steal the bait without getting caught in the trap.
Hegelian Dialectic is a mind/masses manipulation tool originated in ancient Greece. The manipulator looks to drive an outcome by making those changing think they are the ones making the change. The common terms are:
Thesis
...................Synthesis
Antithesis
The manipulator wants to move either the person or the entire "Masses" from the Thesis point of the discussion to the Synthesis position, and to do so creates the paper tiger Antithesis position to drive the "herd" from the original Thesis position.
For instance, you the manipulator want to move the masses off of the anti-abortion stance to an initial softer stance on abortion. Therefore, you create huge publicity about the horrors of women dying trying to do their own, or story after story of rapes etc to drive the herd to the softer stance. In this case, "incrementalism" is utilized in steps to reach the desired destination of total public acceptance to murdering their own children.
Same "gods/goddesses", different day.
Hi Saxon,
Is that like causing some ‘problem’ only to later implement the desired/engineered ‘solution’? Like implementing someone’s order, out of chaos or something like that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, exactly, creating a "paper tiger" problem to move the whole concept to a place it would never go of its own accord.
And yes, this MO is continuously utilized by the Secret Societies to move the masses to their desired ways of thinking.
What is venus or isis goddess all about.. the former seemed to represent “divine feminity”, is this the case?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Isis is the original Mother of this Galaxy and Osiris the original Father. Together they bore first Horus and then Lucifer(Set)
Horus, (the Light of the World) was ultimately run off by both his father and younger brother, letting this world degrade into the condition we see today.
Venus at that time was known as Hathor, and she was the original wife to Horus. The problems that this galaxy experiences originated in that group of people.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 3:16 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon is full of Saxon.
Saxon worships and adores Saxon.
Like all cult leaders.
Saxon exalts himself and his own "understanding."
Like all cult leaders, Saxon attacks Christianity and claims that he has the real knowledge thate scapes all others.
If he does not repent of his ego, Saxon will go to hell.
Agreed......"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables." 2Tim 4: 3-4 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704532
What your spewing around is obviously not "sound doctrine" as easily evidenced in the reading of this thread. So, quote the words of Lucifer your so called "god" all you like, as such means nothing to me.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 3:17 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Praise The Holy Of Holy :: Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him. Praise The Lamb:: Amen Quoting: wing-ed
Careful wing-ed, before you know it I'll have you speaking for yourself again.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370475
6/20/2009 3:18 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
How abouts we let GAWD speak for himself ? Well...Welll..come on Gawd...we can't hear you.......
jesus....
Always cumming
Never arriving |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 3:20 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon words are fine and dandy until you read this part....
"Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords."
Newbie spirits?
Raw materials?
Production line?
Saxon thinks he has a handle on Gods plan.
Nothing could be further from truth.
Our spiritual bodies are billions of years old and we sang as Star together rejoicing and singing with happiness long before this dispensation.
What does the bible say about what I just posted?
Job 38:7 is the answer.
God calls us His stars....
You have been had by Saxon and you feel for his false wisdom hook line and sinker. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 687974
Yes, Saxon's words must not be True because WHERE'S the "jesus ease"?
And WHERE, pray tell, is the pompousness? 
Never a Truer statement has been made and you so deceived you fail to see.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/20/2009 3:33 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
If you pay attention to what Saxon is saying, you can catch his huge mistakes.
For an example look at these two expressions and reasonings that he has projected to all of us and see that they both are a counter diction of each other...
Saxons words;
Our Creator did no such thing. Many of us FREELY CHOSE this pathetic existence at the beginning of time, listening to the "beautiful teachings" of Lucifer et al.
Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat. Quoting: Little Star
Your misconception resides in your presumption that all of God's children came into being at the same time. They did not, hence the differential. Where do you think the difference between the Watchers and mortals originated?
He projects to us that we are a "raw materials, and "newbie" spirits, then he states that "at the beginning of time listening to the teachings of Lucifer".
So what is it? Are we raw materials newbie spirits or ancient spirits that had trouble with Lucifer from the beginning. Quoting: Little Star
No, I project that YOU are a newbie spirit and raw material as you so actively prove here.
Yes, the "age" variations in spirits here is the most pronounced it has ever been in history.
Hey ladies and gents, from the beginning of time of our creation of our spiritual bodies we sang and rejoiced. It was billions of years later that Lucifer and or Satan tried to take the thrown of God. Quoting: Little Star
Some did, but certainly not everyone here currently. The spirits of heaven are generated in much the same way that we bear children here, the difference being that the bearing of a child to a Twin Flame couple produces BOTH an eternal body AND and eternal spirit, while mortal bodies are nothing but carriers for a pre-existent spirit.
You are deceived, Lucifer never tried to take the Throne of our Creator Parents. Even he's not that stupid.
I know Saxon will come down on me for posting this and pointing this out to you all, but we will watch his skilled verbal entrepreneur expressions to try and nail me as he does anyone that goes against his mental supposition personal belief which is based on nothing but "self". Quoting: Little Star
Skilled eh? Why thank you very much.
Nail you? Well, if pointing out the reason for your misconception was "nailing" you, then consider yourself "nailed".
Sorry Saxon for pointing this out. Now lets see your inner self and what you think of anyone going against what you are sharing and we will see your soul.
No facts at all is what I see from you.
I want truth, not someones personal expression of what they think Gods plan is. Present them if you have the truth in you. Quoting: Little Star
Oh no, there's nothing to be "sorry" about. It was a good platform for showing the Truth of that situation.
But I must say, I don't think it's my soul that has its butt hanging out at the moment.
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| 9teen.47™ 
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6/20/2009 3:44 PM
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The whole "mother earth" thing is a lie and you will be pay for believing in a lie, if you die in your sins. Creator or Liar?...
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Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
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| Saxon (777)
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6/20/2009 3:52 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
What are incarnations here like? Does one reincarnate same gender/sex? Does the this go the same for the ‘separated twin flame’ as well? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Generally one reincarnates the same gender/sex as their spirit. However, there can be exceptions to this rule either due to some spirit work/change (say, a "manly man", so manly that one continues to fail to get him to take to women), or another unintended misalignment.
For example, when two mortals copulate, their desires and intentions actively weigh into what is taking place in regard to the conception. Let's say a married couple has had a string of boys, boy after boy, and now, they become desperate to have that ONE girl. They become SO mentally enthralled with hoping for that girl, that although their bodies go ahead and generate yet another boy body, they unwittingly "suck" a female spirit from the "spirit cloud" into that body alignment. The homosexuals that are not militant "in your face" types are often due to this event, ever being who they are from birth.
Yes, all of these rules and conditions apply to all spirits.
So eventually, no matter what one does… even the physical vehicle will reflect the quality of the spirit, or ones soul? Also what’s up with “blue hue”? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Only to a degree. The spirit cannot totally override the DNA design, but rather only modify it to certain characteristic looks. For instance, a shifty sneaky boy will grow into a man whose eyes adopt more that look reflecting the spirit into the physical realm.
Can you explain more what you mean by “arrow shot”? So the “fallen divine females” had a change of heart, or gained a certain realization you mean? Can you say more? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Everything concerning the arrow shot is here:
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“Love droids”? If we do not even know what this is, aren’t we all love droids in a sense?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
A "love droid" would be an entity that is unable to do anything other than "love" everyone around them, unable to think for themselves. Love is meaningless without the freedom to NOT Love.
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| Saxon (777)
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6/20/2009 3:56 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Our Creator, OTOH is the originator of those fine immortal bodies that the fallen are so hellbent on copying to their own ends. In such we, the creators of mortal bodies, are but again a mirror image of our Creator Mother and Father, and in such do they draw great pleasure and enjoyment watching their children grow.
Above is what Axon wrote...
Isn't that the Star Wars Character?
Sure it is!
Made me laugh.. Quoting: Little Star
The Star Wars Character? Which one? 
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| Anonymous Coward
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6/20/2009 3:57 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Love is meaningless without the freedom to NOT Love. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Free will. |
| Saxon (777)
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6/20/2009 3:58 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
in my opinion, if there is a god, it lets us decide. we have here at our disposal all the raw materials we need, to do with our fate whatever we want. i think god is wondering why we keep pointing the finger at him asking what he's going to do about our refusal to do for ourselves. people have this fear of playing god, it's holding us back as a species. what we have to realise is that, in our refusal to make the giant god-like decisions, which need to be made to move forward and out of the nest so to speak, we are still playing god, we are still choosing our fate.
we can be the over grown kid that wastes all our parents taught us , choosing to slouch , drink, get high, then whine to mommy and daddy for another helping hand, all the while blaming them for our life. or we
get over our fears ans immaturity, pull our boot straps up and do something productive with ourselves. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 380880
Yup, quite True.
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