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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441472
6/20/2009 11:04 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
the dream/s end |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 9:05 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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"Do you ever wonder if the Big Kahuna of fallen ever miss his 'original' and beautiful lady friend, it's twin flame right, or ever long for home. Come to know our mutual Creator, like returning to the 'Father' sort of thing.
Like getting to know ones "SOURCE of BEING".
Thank you."
Reportedly, Mr. Fallen Big Kahuna is homosexual, so I doubt he's doing much missing of his once wife. When someone has been as twisted as has he for such a long time, coming home is not only a LONG LONG LONG journey, but possibly a journey past the ability of the spirit. As well, Lucifer reportedly has a spirit makeup problem concerning his heart, something that is virtually non-existent. So, we'll see on that one. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
If someone like above gets to that sort of state of being, what happens to their twin flame?
So, based on what one does, one can get to a point where self redemption is not possible?
Also can we talk more in regards to the following from your website?:
"43. Do that, and no other shall say nay. (Be bound ONLY in Love, all other reasons are pointless)
44. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect. (Yes, the pure will of LOVE as is the topic She is addressing, NOT some collective “do whatever the hell you want to do” so called directive as SO many are want to take out of context)
45. The Perfect and the Perfect are one Perfect (two perfected/matured spirits unite to become ONE perfected/mature “stone” in the wall of eternity) and not two; nay, are none (zero, eternity)!…….”The Book of the Law”"
"The Perfect and the Perfect" are twin flames that have gotten their 'house in order' and ready for something here?
What happens to twin flames that never eventually unite, is there such a thing as never, or is it a matter of time?
Also the "pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect" sounds like a being whose mind changed, or became clear in a sense.
Thank you. |
| beam me up
User ID: 708062
6/21/2009 9:29 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
just shoot me
i have suffered enough
this game is endless and repetitive |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 9:30 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
What is a “come to jesus” experience?
A "come to jesus" experience is that of experiencing a "revival meeting" or other church "service" in which a person becomes so guilty that they are "convicted" of their "sin" and "need" to be "saved" by "jesus". In other words, one needs to realize that they're going to be tormented in hell endlessly unless they jump up and go grovel before the "lord". aka, Lucifer.
In any regard, sometimes this event has emotional feelings of "surrender" involved with crying and what not. This COULD be the beginning of something more worthwhile were not the WHOLE focus removed from the person and put on Lucifer. This COULD have been the first steps in seeing one's self as they Truly are.
What does it mean to "Let go"? Doesn't that naturally involve a surrendering of some sort, which involves a Trust of some kind? Also isn't this again an ego/mind thing? also that we don't know what this means or feel there is no need for such?
"Letting go" is generally the letting go of rationalizations and denials that a person puts up to cover over their shortcomings. So, this aspect of someone CAN be the first steps down the road to Loving themselves. Sadly, in Christian circles one is deceived into thinking that they are "worthless", and CERTAINLY NOT someone "worthy" of Love regardless WHAT they may do.
And yes, such involves the Ego as the Ego is "defense" central, the control which has people believing themselves to be much "better" than they really are. People in this stage are called "Two Hearted" by the NA, where they have two sets of books they keep, one easy set from themselves, and one excessively HARD one for everyone else.
How does one overcome the “generally short lived” aspect of this tuning, or gain more understanding to do this?
Can you speak more on what you mean of “anti-backsliding events”?
Thank you
Tuning ability comes with experience, much like the balance of riding a bike comes with much practice and training wheels. An immature spirit cannot tune long term as they lack the "practice" and desire to do such. To them it's just about "feeling good", much the same way they see sex.
The anti-backsliding events are generally called "revivals" in Christian circles. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Oh, you meant one of those "experiences". I was confused and thought you implied the personal realization(s) a person may get to at one point, that makes them one to seek out Truth and glimmer of a feeling that the world is much more than how it was usually perceived.
That point when one wants to 'start getting Real' or something like that.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 9:32 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Loving yourself is generally found on the road to respecting yourself. Therefore, the many experiences you come across in life in which you honorably perform to your own high expectations, adds to one's self respect. We call that "self esteem" in today's society so as to confuse the topic. One's self respect could never be "given" as so many have been deceived to believe as only YOU can build your self respect. A man with True self respect needs no one around him to hold him up in regards to his own self image. And ultimately it is THAT man that one "falls" in Love with. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
This reminds me of the mystical ideas behind "being true to oneself" and that only 'oneself can truly show oneself'. Also that only oneself can make that choice for oneself. Or somethinglike that.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 704437
6/21/2009 9:35 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
You can only grow in character thru suffering.
Think of the people you know who have an easy life, enough money, no problems, good looks, a great marriage....
You think they are so lucky?
Not really.
They are just "simple" - they cannot take any pressure, so they are not given it.
The ones who suffer a lot, they are the ones with the potential to grow.
If you think the world is just what we see here on earth, there there is no way you will ever understand suffering. This world, and our experiences in it, and how we react, is the gateway to the next world. Thru suffering and growing, (and dying) we make it to a better place.
Believe it, or else you will spend a lifetime of suffering about your suffering. Once you understand that suffering is a blessing in disguise, it won't bother you so much. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695824
amen...i share all what you commented
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 9:36 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
just shoot me
i have suffered enough
this game is endless and repetitive Quoting: beam me up 708062
Hi there,
Sorry to be "vexing" to you.
It's been 'vexing' for me to not be able to talk about such things. Seems impossible to even talk or discuss some of these ideas without feeling a form of 'repurcussion'. Also rarer is someone who willingly reply in a sincere manner.
I feel the vexing too.
Hope that helps. Take care.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 9:57 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
You can only grow in character thru suffering.
Think of the people you know who have an easy life, enough money, no problems, good looks, a great marriage....
You think they are so lucky?
Not really.
They are just "simple" - they cannot take any pressure, so they are not given it.
The ones who suffer a lot, they are the ones with the potential to grow.
If you think the world is just what we see here on earth, there there is no way you will ever understand suffering. This world, and our experiences in it, and how we react, is the gateway to the next world. Thru suffering and growing, (and dying) we make it to a better place.
Believe it, or else you will spend a lifetime of suffering about your suffering. Once you understand that suffering is a blessing in disguise, it won't bother you so much.
amen...i share all what you commented
Hi there
That was a very inspiring message. It seems that people that come to truly understand suffering comes to understand suffering, and can see it out there as well. In does seem like a 'purifying' in a sense, along with the associated burning sensation. Maybe it could be seen as a 'tempering' process as well.
Thank you.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 10:25 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
So if the constellation of Ophiuchus is considered, doesn't this mean to imply that just about all of the horoscopes, zodiac astrology, birth signs and stuff like that are a little 'off' or un-synchronized in a sense?
One would think. But that's how the Secret Society groups work, they widely publish lies to keep everyone else in error on their realities while they utilize the real information in secret.
It seems so many people accept the descriptions/symbolism of the zodiac, even if it can be wrong... what's going on there?
Control. The ruling elite lean heavily on astrological information/manipulation and retain power through making sure anyone else attempting to do such does so in error.
For example, with Ophiuchus, this one went from Capricorn to Sagittarius. Does this mean that people who give any credence to astrology is even more 'delusional' than thought, or is this something else?
Thank you.
Yeah, Ophiuchus is actually the "new" 10th zodiac. That explains to a degree as to why the number 13 is so huge for the Secret Society groups while telling the rest of the world how "unlucky" a number it is eh? Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
What is your opinion of the kind of information that is useful for the "occult" sorts of fellows? What does astrology represent, with Ophiuchus present, in relation to horroscope leaning ideas for people, are there any?
So is there anything else in regards to the number of pillars, the zodiac constellation, and the number itself? I'd like to know.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 10:32 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Also what are “the Doorway to Heaven, Jachin and Boaz? Is this like a symbolic thing or physical columns somewhere in the desert kind of thing?
Jachin and Boaz as a Twin Flame notation comes from the Jewish Mystic Occult quarters and is likely the original meaning of that symbol. And of course, those "holding" that symbol now would say I was full of crap etc in what I'm saying. But, that's how Lucifer, their "god" works, redefining the Truth and hiding it right back under their collective noses.
This is totally a symbolic kind of thing, although the mystic occult crowd carry such much further, to the point of putting each of the two pillars from Egypt, one in Central Park in America and one in London so as to span the Atlantic. They did such because they misunderstand the meaning of the "magic" which exists between the two, and/or to simply "hijack" the power associated with the symbol.
Also can you talk about the “children” represented by the 12 pillars, what is that about?
Does this have anything to do with 12 + 1, which I do know about but have seen examples of like the number of disciples and such.
The "12" is purportedly associated with the 12 constellations around us and hence the "cross" of this earth as such projects here. And as you are saying, they've "Hidden" the Ophiuchus constellation since its showing 2000 years ago. Ophiuchus probably "flagged" the coming of the "One" who is many names to many different peoples, but as far as I can tell, looks to be "Horus" returned. Many have looked to steal that identity over the millenia.
In that way then, Lucifer, the "god/king" of this realm then looked to be the 13th man of the group, thereby hijacking the "inheritance" of his brother, Horus.
The children represented by the 12 pillars in Solomon's (a notorious mystic occultist of his day) Temple are the physical descendants of Lucifer, or the physical descendants of "Cain", Lucifer's first male child. Some refer to them as "Kenites".
Also, in case of the two twin flames and the two pillars, is 1 + 1 = 1 here? Like a unity of halves or something like that?
Yeah, something like that, and as well the reason our Creator calls "themselves", The Self Existent ONE even though "they" present as the two "halves" of Mother Earth and Father Heaven. In short, the whole gender format was created specifically for the purposes of supplying the "vehicle" in which Real Love can be "lived".
Ophiuchus – can you speak more in regards to being “hidden” and the “showing up 2000 years ago”?
Thank you
That's about all I know about it, is that Ophiuchus the constellation was not "there" until then. Possibly I covered that more here:
[ link to z14.invisionfree.com]
And like many things, there's probably disagreement as to when that constellation "arrived".
Hi Saxon,
You were referring to Obelisks right? Jachin and Boaz are symbolized by obelisks? Weren't those just 'occult erect penis adoring fetish' monuments?
Also can you tell me what your opinion is regarding the symbolism of Ophiuchus "wrestling and taming" the serpent, what is that about you think? It seems to be about firmly holding the tail and the head of serpent firmly in one's hands.
The serpent symbols everywhere.... in a sense, for reasons unknown to me, seems to represent wisdom, or logic (represented as a snake-no idea how). But it seems that logic doesn't play the leading factor to overcome here, but that "extreme inner power", Heart power you mentioned. In a sense, it seems that the 'penis worshiping' aspect, the mind, can only take one so far.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 10:50 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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The "12" is purportedly associated with the 12 constellations around us and hence the "cross" of this earth as such projects here. And as you are saying, they've "Hidden" the Ophiuchus constellation since its showing 2000 years ago. Ophiuchus probably "flagged" the coming of the "One" who is many names to many different peoples, but as far as I can tell, looks to be "Horus" returned. Many have looked to steal that identity over the millenia.
In that way then, Lucifer, the "god/king" of this realm then looked to be the 13th man of the group, thereby hijacking the "inheritance" of his brother, Horus.
The children represented by the 12 pillars in Solomon's (a notorious mystic occultist of his day) Temple are the physical descendants of Lucifer, or the physical descendants of "Cain", Lucifer's first male child. Some refer to them as "Kenites".
..... Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
Can you share more in regards to the children of the 'big kahuna' represented by the 12 pillars? In a sense aren't all of us humans descendants from intermixtures of descendents from adam, eve, cain, perhaps seth and even stories regarding lilith, what makes the distinction here?
Also what does Horus have anything to do with this, and why is he referred to as a like a 'return of a shining One' kind of thing. Like a "Jesus", what's the story there?
Also can you share some of the things you stated elsewhere in regards to the 'big kahuna' losing/quarantined, the story that lead to this status? This kingdom still feels like a 'little kingdom' rooted in the conditional love kind of living, which is no Real Love at all. Why is it still the suck if fellas like that lost? Also by lost do you mean they back in the "pit systems" and thus not physcially walking nor interacting with the fellas here?
Thank you. |
| little star
User ID: 687974
6/21/2009 10:58 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Saxon is not on line right now, but he will have plenty of time to ponder each posting.
You can count on him being spectacular in his response.
After all, out of clouds comes a great mystery, and that mystery is finding where to drop the rain..
And in our case, it will be acid rain... lol
And so we receive warning from one of his disciples. I wonder if there are 12. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681119
Well I am not one of Saxon's disciples...
Gee Saxon, I feel for ya. I can see that no matter what you post, you will get nailed.
Peace bro!
But I do have one question for you,,,,
Where can I get the info that you are presenting?
Palo -Hebrew?
Is is found on the sight you have posted on your thread here?
If so I will go there to read it..
After all, truth is my quest for life..
I am seeking truth... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 10:59 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Heart power is an extreme inner power, the loss or lacking of which greatly destabilizes someone who ignores such to then focus on nothing but the Mind.
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Yes, much so, as the usurping rulers of this world know full well the "score" when it comes to those things. Their power is directly proportional to the number of spirits they can trap here in confusion, hence their reason for creating all the language barriers etc a Babylon. We have all been taught from birth that "success" is defined in things attained with the Mind, and that "romance" is cute and "silly". The Truth could not be twisted more as Real Love is the ONLY thing transferable from this realm.
... Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
I'd really like to know that this "extreme inner power" is about. What do you think that is like? it seems intrinsically connected to one the "Know Thyself".
The 'destabilized' being that is focused on Mind, that sounds like a 'dysfunctional' thing. Isn't it true that the Heart just 'does it's thing' and something with the Mind must change to listen?
What do you think the fall of Babylon is about, the languages, the division and stuff like that.. While it would be easy to start over from scratch with new and different languages from then, how else would one make one "speak in foreign tongues"?
Also is it true that Babylon can be attributed to worship of towers, banking, 'occult stuff', and war-mongery?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/21/2009 11:37 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
How is one "faithful and true" towards their twin flame?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708206
6/21/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Where can I get the info that you are presenting? Quoting: little star 687974
There is no basis other than his own vain speculations.
He seriously believes that he has the truths which are hidden from all of humanity but a few geniuses such as himself.
He thinks God is not capable of seeing to it that His Word reaches us without the help of intellectual and spiritual giants such as himself.
He condemns and denies Jesus Christ as false, as a lie, as a fiction, as Lucifer,
as anything but what Jesus claimed and demonstrated before a great many witnesses.
He is a very personification of satanic ego
and is serving the satanic purpose of trying anything and everything to deceive people away from Jesus Christ.
He judges Jesus as falling short of himself.
He is fully accountable. |
| dunno
User ID: 708212
6/21/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
there are no real answers.
or all answers are real. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/21/2009 3:37 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
just shoot me
i have suffered enough
this game is endless and repetitive Quoting: beam me up 708062
I know how you feel, and yeah, all of this is repetitive like the spinning of a washing machine. However, the benefit to the many is outweighing the discomfort of the few.
The "hold" remains until the maximum benefit of the "win" for the Children of God is realized.
We're all suffering, just hang on man.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/21/2009 3:41 PM | | 9teen.47™ 
Time is short.
User ID: 708198
6/21/2009 3:47 PM
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p.s. I've not heard anything about the movie "Angels and Demons", but I'm going to weigh in now and say that the ultimate theme of the movie is going to be the reconciliation of the Darkness to the Light, the theme of the age of Aquarius. Quoting: Saxon (777)
 It ain't gonna happen. The Passover Plot?...
[link to www.chick.com]
2Cr 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
2Cr 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
2Cr 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people
Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 6/21/2009 at 3:50 PM
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.
STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 566252 (OP)
6/21/2009 10:41 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
If someone like above gets to that sort of state of being, what happens to their twin flame? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
The book of Ezekiel translated the way I did says that "problem" Flames can be rerouted to bind with another IF it gets totally unworkable. That's mostly something we'll be seeing around this time due the "timing" nature of what's happening. For instance, as is in my case, if a woman's Twin just cannot come up to speed, especially in time for the "supplanting" issue upon us now "in time" for the event, then he'll get put back in the "system" and she'll be put with someone predetermined for her. These are rather special and unusual events, and these things are known long in advance and then worked by our Creator in very unusual ways.
Isis is a good example, as she loses Osiris and of course can never find his penis (i.e. he never gets it together to be what she needs), SO, she reportedly "generates" herself a "golden penis" to ultimately replace Osiris as her husband. In that case, she is set to be joined to her long lost son Horus. I know, that's very unusual in our mortal standards here, but things are a bit different in the immortal realms.
So, based on what one does, one can get to a point where self redemption is not possible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
That's the rumor. I'm not really sure about that, and it's not really up to me to decide either. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. In any case, those are reportedly VERY small numbers/percentages of the entirety.
Also can we talk more in regards to the following from your website?:
"43. Do that, and no other shall say nay. (Be bound ONLY in Love, all other reasons are pointless)
44. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect. (Yes, the pure will of LOVE as is the topic She is addressing, NOT some collective “do whatever the hell you want to do” so called directive as SO many are want to take out of context)
45. The Perfect and the Perfect are one Perfect (two perfected/matured spirits unite to become ONE perfected/mature “stone” in the wall of eternity) and not two; nay, are none (zero, eternity)!…….”The Book of the Law”"
"The Perfect and the Perfect" are twin flames that have gotten their 'house in order' and ready for something here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, ready for "binding" here. They, those looking after them, "wind/bind" their Hearts together and cross their fingers. 
What happens to twin flames that never eventually unite, is there such a thing as never, or is it a matter of time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
It's rare, but in times like these currently, not as rare. In general, overall, such is a VERY small percentage thing and not something to dwell upon unless it's directly involving yourself or someone you Love.
Also the "pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect" sounds like a being whose mind changed, or became clear in a sense.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Interesting wording. To me such is someone given over to the spirit development program, confident and sure of the Love which drives the system.  |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/21/2009 11:05 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
If someone like above gets to that sort of state of being, what happens to their twin flame? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
The book of Ezekiel translated the way I did says that "problem" Flames can be rerouted to bind with another IF it gets totally unworkable. That's mostly something we'll be seeing around this time due the "timing" nature of what's happening. For instance, as is in my case, if a woman's Twin just cannot come up to speed, especially in time for the "supplanting" issue upon us now "in time" for the event, then he'll get put back in the "system" and she'll be put with someone predetermined for her. These are rather special and unusual events, and these things are known long in advance and then worked by our Creator in very unusual ways.
Isis is a good example, as she loses Osiris and of course can never find his penis (i.e. he never gets it together to be what she needs), SO, she reportedly "generates" herself a "golden penis" to ultimately replace Osiris as her husband. In that case, she is set to be joined to her long lost son Horus. I know, that's very unusual in our mortal standards here, but things are a bit different in the immortal realms.
So, based on what one does, one can get to a point where self redemption is not possible? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
That's the rumor. I'm not really sure about that, and it's not really up to me to decide either. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. In any case, those are reportedly VERY small numbers/percentages of the entirety.
Also can we talk more in regards to the following from your website?:
"43. Do that, and no other shall say nay. (Be bound ONLY in Love, all other reasons are pointless)
44. For pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect. (Yes, the pure will of LOVE as is the topic She is addressing, NOT some collective “do whatever the hell you want to do” so called directive as SO many are want to take out of context)
45. The Perfect and the Perfect are one Perfect (two perfected/matured spirits unite to become ONE perfected/mature “stone” in the wall of eternity) and not two; nay, are none (zero, eternity)!…….”The Book of the Law”"
"The Perfect and the Perfect" are twin flames that have gotten their 'house in order' and ready for something here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, ready for "binding" here. They, those looking after them, "wind/bind" their Hearts together and cross their fingers.
What happens to twin flames that never eventually unite, is there such a thing as never, or is it a matter of time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
It's rare, but in times like these currently, not as rare. In general, overall, such is a VERY small percentage thing and not something to dwell upon unless it's directly involving yourself or someone you Love.
Also the "pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect" sounds like a being whose mind changed, or became clear in a sense.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Interesting wording. To me such is someone given over to the spirit development program, confident and sure of the Love which drives the system.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/21/2009 11:11 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Loving yourself is generally found on the road to respecting yourself. Therefore, the many experiences you come across in life in which you honorably perform to your own high expectations, adds to one's self respect. We call that "self esteem" in today's society so as to confuse the topic. One's self respect could never be "given" as so many have been deceived to believe as only YOU can build your self respect. A man with True self respect needs no one around him to hold him up in regards to his own self image. And ultimately it is THAT man that one "falls" in Love with.
Hi Saxon,
This reminds me of the mystical ideas behind "being true to oneself" and that only 'oneself can truly show oneself'. Also that only oneself can make that choice for oneself. Or somethinglike that.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, some call this "inner sight", and generally relates to that "ability" to honestly and accurately see one's self as one REALLY is rather than what one likes to "think" one is.
Being True to one's self is more along the lines of not letting everyone around one's self decide where one is going in life. This too has to be approached carefully as many use this living "clause" to justify all kinds of narcissistic behavior.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/21/2009 11:20 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
What is your opinion of the kind of information that is useful for the "occult" sorts of fellows? What does astrology represent, with Ophiuchus present, in relation to horroscope leaning ideas for people, are there any? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
The movement of the planets in 3d appear to be connected to the higher realms where the movement of the higher type spirits is coded into the things we can see here in the form of planetary alignment. In a dream I had a while back, I saw the constellation "machine" along with my angelic friends, and the "chamber" in which is was mounted was totally flooded with crystal clear and cold water. The machine was still spinning and moving, but due it's submersion in the water, was damaging the chamber in which it was mounted. Large boulders were being dislodged from the walls and getting whacked by the machine as it kept moving unabated. Our job was to repair the system and put things back into original configuration.
Such things are views to other realms, and the Mystic Occult groups utilize these things in attempts to "leach" off of the power of such things. That's why many emperors and what not always consulted the "stars" prior to war campaigns etc. The ruling elite are VERY obsessed with these kinds of things because they are CONVINCED that they work.
So is there anything else in regards to the number of pillars, the zodiac constellation, and the number itself? I'd like to know.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
I'm sure there is, but that's about all I've dug into at this point. I've had to spend my time where such helps fill out the entire Kingdom picture, and therefore leaves me minoring in many major things.
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| Saxon (777)
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6/21/2009 11:36 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
You were referring to Obelisks right? Jachin and Boaz are symbolized by obelisks? Weren't those just 'occult erect penis adoring fetish' monuments? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
No, not Obelisks, but rather Pillars. There is MUCH difference between the two. The Pillar represents the Children of God in the Kingdom while Obelisks, as you say, represent the penis of Osiris generally speaking. If you'll notice, the proportions of Obelisks are quite constant, and are allegedly reported to represent the penises of the "gods".
No, the obelisk thing isn't simply about fetishes, but constitute an "agreement" of sorts, that's why one finds them in the middle of the Vatican grounds and built into all the Catholic Churches of Europe. Such symbolically represents the right to the children of Osiris, hence most everyone here in this galaxy. That's why the story of Isis has her searching high and low for the penis of Osiris, not because she's a big penis hound, but because such represents her children. She is hoping to bring her children home, something that was just realized recently, hence the reason for all the changes now taking place.
Also can you tell me what your opinion is regarding the symbolism of Ophiuchus "wrestling and taming" the serpent, what is that about you think? It seems to be about firmly holding the tail and the head of serpent firmly in one's hands. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
I am fairly certain that Ophiuchus represents the return of the "One", and that his actions would wrestle and take control of the "Serpent". The Serpent is the symbol of the fallen Watchers "out there", while the Dragon represents the mortal bound faction of the same here.
The serpent symbols everywhere.... in a sense, for reasons unknown to me, seems to represent wisdom, or logic (represented as a snake-no idea how). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, and along with what I stated above, the two symbols ALSO represent the "wisdom"/"guile", the cold hard Mind logic of both.
But it seems that logic doesn't play the leading factor to overcome here, but that "extreme inner power", Heart power you mentioned. In a sense, it seems that the 'penis worshiping' aspect, the mind, can only take one so far.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Exactly, the Mind is WAY over represented in the "ascension" process here with the Heart being totally under stated in the affair. That's all part of the fallen confusing everyone here to focus all their energy on the WRONG things, thereby tricking them into reincarnating over and over and over with virtually no spiritual progress.
For this reason, you will find most Mystic Occult types to be WAY focused upon "secrets", "codes" and "hidden truth" while generally mocking REAL Love. (They also redefine Love to get it out of the way)
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| Saxon (777)
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6/21/2009 11:59 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
Can you share more in regards to the children of the 'big kahuna' represented by the 12 pillars? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
I generally call our Creator the Big Kahuna at times, so, I'm not quite sure who you're meaning here. But the children of those 12 pillars, IMO, are likely the descendants of Lucifer/Set, those incarnating here to forward the campaign of the fallen against the general Twin Flame foundation of the Kingdom.
In a sense aren't all of us humans descendants from intermixtures of descendents from adam, eve, cain, perhaps seth and even stories regarding lilith, what makes the distinction here? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
IMO, the whole "garden of Eden" story is about the fall of the watchers NOT, the "fall of man", as man could never fall. How does one fall from where they have not been? However, in that same story, is the intermixing of the "gods/goddesses" with the mortal based people of the "vineyard" they were to be watching. As many of the gods and goddesses were violently rejected by their Twins for the various reasons, many of them turned to mortals in an attempt to fill those voids.
Also what does Horus have anything to do with this, and why is he referred to as a like a 'return of a shining One' kind of thing. Like a "Jesus", what's the story there? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
I'm reasonably certain that Horus is the "One", Pahana, the Akae (promise), the returning Knight etc. He was once joined to Hathor/Venus/Aphrodite/Ishtar and it is Lucifer who seduced her from her original husband Horus. That's what the reported fight between Horus/Set was all about, where (it's told backwards of course) Horus ripped out the eye of Set, hence the "all seeing eye" of this world, and Set ripped off the penis of Horus (i.e. took his wife).
In any regard, the long throw plan of this past age was to put both Horus and Hathor back here incarnate, and by so doing demonstrate to the fallen Divine Female collective both the power of Real Love, and the fact that THEY TOO could return home in much the same way. That is what is being symbolized by the "Arrow shot" etc.
Also can you share some of the things you stated elsewhere in regards to the 'big kahuna' losing/quarantined, the story that lead to this status? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
In this case I suspect you're referring to Lucifer/Set losing, as the previous was done on his own "playing board" (that's the checkerboard squares of the Secret Society floors, the "game" of life here) In any case, this galaxy had been quarantined due to the rapid advancement of the fallen upon the non-fallen, using methods much like they did from the start, generally seducing their way to the top of the structure etc.
The point has always been to "develop" those persons who could overcome the "Beast" of their system as well the example set by both Horus and Hathor in Loving embrace right under the noses of the fallen of the Set/Lucifer temple who "played" every "play" they had and then some to STOP both Horus and Hathor from reuniting.
This kingdom still feels like a 'little kingdom' rooted in the conditional love kind of living, which is no Real Love at all. Why is it still the suck if fellas like that lost? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
It is, much like when one beats the last "boss" in Zelda or whatever. The game has finished, but the whole effect is now working its way through the system here, looking to change the Hearts and minds of as many of the fallen as possible prior to the "board reset". (typically pole shifts ect.) However, many are feeling the continual upward spiritual movement of this place as such completes.
Also by lost do you mean they back in the "pit systems" and thus not physcially walking nor interacting with the fellas here?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
No, losing simply means they were unsuccessful in blocking both the reuniting of Horus and Hathor as well the resultant implosion of their "Female Machine" (aka, body provider system) once they "got the picture". They've always been told that severed Flames could never be reunited.
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| Anonymous Coward
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6/22/2009 12:01 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
All I see is more forums that you are involved with.
Forums such as? I'm on all of 2 right now, this one and the one from my sig line.
Your answers can be tailored each day to the questions being asked of you.....for the enjoyment of the reader.
Can be and ARE are very different things. Clearly, any idiot can see that those answers have been there for 4 YEARS now. Right, I'm writing for reader "enjoyment". 
One of the reported basic tenets of Saxonism is love. Therefore the "idiot" word should probably be withheld. If the basic tenet is actually "selective love," then the word "idiot" is permissible, however future posts would have to specify this particular type of love for increased understanding by the reader. Some writer's use an * for convenience sake. For example, "My purpose is to express real love*, not like that shown by those idiot Christians." At the bottom of the page, you would include: * i.e. selective love
As to my statement about Scripture, it was to refute your claim that you understand it and that I do not.
As if I bothered to get into such a BS pissing match with you over Luciferian "scripture".
You response was the usual....such a thing as that Scripture could never be true.
Yes, usual, something totally over your head, that which explains your totally incoherent posts here.
The correct response however should have been: "Sorry, my previous statements applying Old Testament doctrine for Israel to the current age were not correct."
As if you're sitting in any kind of position to tell me what a "correct" response might be. Pfffffffffft. |
| Saxon (777)
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6/22/2009 12:02 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Well I am not one of Saxon's disciples...
Gee Saxon, I feel for ya. I can see that no matter what you post, you will get nailed.
Peace bro! Quoting: little star 687974
Well, if by "nailed" you mean demeaned and insulted by you, then I guess I've been "nailed".
But I do have one question for you,,,,
Where can I get the info that you are presenting?
Palo -Hebrew?
Is is found on the sight you have posted on your thread here?
If so I will go there to read it..
After all, truth is my quest for life..
I am seeking truth... Quoting: little star 687974
Yup, all on the site listen under my signature for FREE.
Now just WHAT kind of "cult" is handed to you for FREE?
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| Anonymous Coward
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6/22/2009 12:11 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
What was that fellow’s “jewel” times like, what was it like for humanity? Was it a time when folks worshipped ‘godlike’ beings that openly walked amongst man? Were people kind to one another, advanced, more ‘tuned’?
Atlantis, mentality wise, was much like what we all see now. Technology was/is "god", and Heart and Love despised for the most part. Yeah, the watchers were a more common sight in those days for the mortals. The "kind" was more a sugar coating, much like it is now. There can be no True Kindness without Real Love.
"There can be no True Kindness without Real Love* " Then to bottom of page: * i.e. selective love based on my mood
What is the “monkeying”? Atlantis myths seem to describe a time of “slave-creatures”, DNA manipulation, kinds of beings… was that humanity, or the aftereffects of the tampering?
Atlantis to DNA manipulation was much like graffiti on a beautiful Mountain face. Whatever crazy departure from the original form was fancied, that's what they did. The first book of Genesis in the REAL Hebrew details this nonsense.
Humanity was the desired original form for this "vineyard". All the reptilians and what not came after the fact.
Also what we are told of as “junk DNA” what do you think that is?
IMO, that is "program commentary", much like in a computer program here. Were we able to read the "comments", we'd understand the "program" better.
The “wow, they look like us”… are they referring to our humanity’s current forms, if so before or after “monkeying”?
So who are the Elohm again?
No, they're referring to "rudy man", or Caucasians. To that point, mortal man was darker skinned etc to be more compatible with this "garden". The reason for coming up with white skinned mortals was in reaction to the "new" rebellion that had gripped the world. The "Plan" was going to be "worked" through the white skinned types due to the incarnational requirements then levied upon the Watchers in general, those who have white alabaster skin in general.
That's part of the reason for the general bias toward white people in the minds of the darker skinned peoples. This Watcher mindset is part of the collective consciousness of the human genome, where the Watchers are always smarter, more beautiful etc. due to their being immortal gods/goddesses.
The Elohim are the Watchers non-fallen in that storyline.
Were they the ‘watchers that watches the watchers’, or something? (if so who watches them?) Why did you say that the “Elohim declared of their “creation””?
Likely the group was a cross section of varied "levels" of Watchers. Yes, they are "stratified". And, in fact, the "higher" levels of Watchers do indeed watch over the "lower" levels, all the way to the "center" of the Creation "onion".
The Elohim declared, "hey wow, they look like us", because they were specifically designed to do so.
Doesn’t the Father-Mother-Love create Creation?
Thank you.
Sure they do, but Children HAVE to learn, and "hands on" is the ONLY way that can happen. Quoting: Saxon (777) |
| Saxon (777)
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6/22/2009 12:17 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
I'd really like to know that this "extreme inner power" is about. What do you think that is like? it seems intrinsically connected to one the "Know Thyself". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
The extreme inner power is that power which withstands any outside force looking to destabilize one's inner peace. This ability is found in the Heart, not the Mind as many wrongly assume. It is directly connected to knowing thyself and is the final development of such. That inner power is the very thing which allows the "two witnesses" of Revelation (of course the story is very corrupted) stand back up on their feet after being "dead" for three days and "go back to Heaven". What this is actually talking about is the world's inability to "kill" Real Love, NOT the more silly notion of bringing mortal bodies back to "life".
The real "two witnesses" are actually Horus and Hathor as I detailed earlier. And the REAL message is what I told you just a few paragraphs above, not some "B" acting part out of some Hollywood "Moses" flick.
The 'destabilized' being that is focused on Mind, that sounds like a 'dysfunctional' thing. Isn't it true that the Heart just 'does it's thing' and something with the Mind must change to listen? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
No, the Heart in proper function has it's own "knowing", and forms the foundation upon which the Mind rests for proper perspective. Think of the over developed Mind resting upon a very under-developed Heart in much the same way as a very powerful , precisely aimed laser mounted in a bog of mud. Guess how accurate one's "shot" will be?
What do you think the fall of Babylon is about, the languages, the division and stuff like that.. While it would be easy to start over from scratch with new and different languages from then, how else would one make one "speak in foreign tongues"? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
The fall of Babylon directly matches Stitchin's account of the slave outbreaks and what not that the fallen watchers encountered with their abused mortal booty. To keep them all "dumbed down" and weak, they divided their languages. Keep in mind that the "god" speaking in the Hebrew there is Set/Lucifer, NOT our Creator. And the "Heaven" they might reach, is the very Heaven I'm talking about. Divide and conquer, EVER the motto of the fallen.
Remember that the Elohim fallen have impressive ability with DNA mortal constructs and could either "program" such, or more simply separated infants from their mothers and forced alternate languages upon them.
Also is it true that Babylon can be attributed to worship of towers, banking, 'occult stuff', and war-mongery?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
Yes, Babylon is the "confusion" of the mortal realms to make sure they never use the "portal to Heaven" the way it has always been intended to be used by our Creator.
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| Saxon (777)
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6/22/2009 12:20 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
How is one "faithful and true" towards their twin flame?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821
One who Loves their Twin Flame in spite of everything they've ever done, and every harm and hurt they have unintentionally and intentionally perpetrated against them is INDEED, Faithful and True.
Such is the "new" paradigm of Real Love, now impacting the rebellion. Forgiveness and reconciliation is the VanGuard of the age of Aquarius.
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