Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

There is no basis other than his own vain speculations.

He seriously believes that he has the truths which are hidden from all of humanity but a few geniuses such as himself.

He thinks God is not capable of seeing to it that His Word reaches us without the help of intellectual and spiritual giants such as himself.

He condemns and denies Jesus Christ as false, as a lie, as a fiction, as Lucifer,
as anything but what Jesus claimed and demonstrated before a great many witnesses.

He is a very personification of satanic ego
and is serving the satanic purpose of trying anything and everything to deceive people away from Jesus Christ.

He judges Jesus as falling short of himself.

He is fully accountable.

p.s. I've not heard anything about the movie "Angels and Demons", but I'm going to weigh in now and say that the ultimate theme of the movie is going to be the reconciliation of the Darkness to the Light, the theme of the age of Aquarius.


It ain't gonna happen. The Passover Plot?...

Where can I get the info that you are presenting?


There is no basis other than his own vain speculations.

He seriously believes that he has the truths which are hidden from all of humanity but a few geniuses such as himself.

He thinks God is not capable of seeing to it that His Word reaches us without the help of intellectual and spiritual giants such as himself.

He condemns and denies Jesus Christ as false, as a lie, as a fiction, as Lucifer,
as anything but what Jesus claimed and demonstrated before a great many witnesses.

He is a very personification of satanic ego
and is serving the satanic purpose of trying anything and everything to deceive people away from Jesus Christ.

He judges Jesus as falling short of himself.

He is fully accountable.

He seriously believes that he has the truths which are hidden from all of humanity but a few geniuses such as himself.



Yes, I do,

He seriously believes that he has the truths which are hidden from all of humanity but a few geniuses such as himself.



Yes, I do,


Try to comprehend, genius:
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He seriously believes that he has the truths which are hidden from all of humanity but a few geniuses such as himself.



Yes, I do,


Try to comprehend, genius:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]


Piss off Turd boy.

This punchbowl really doesn't want you here, really.

You obviously have nothing to add but your foul presence.

Saxon cannot acceptcriticism or challenge without erupting in the most vulgar and insulting assaults,

in his humble opinion, of course.




Feel free to point out my "vulgarity"

Nice.

Out of the depths of your soul...

Can't deal with Truth, can you?

Let's see you try, genius.

Saxon cannot acceptcriticism or challenge without erupting in the most vulgar and insulting assaults,

in his humble opinion, of course.




Feel free to point out my "vulgarity"

Please explain this passage, genius:


But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.

You do the deeds of your father." Then they said to Him, "We were not born of fornication; we have one Father--God."

Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me.

Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.

You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me.

He who is of God hears God's words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God."

Then the Jews answered and said to Him, "Do we not say rightly that You are a Samaritan and have a demon?"

Jesus answered, "I do not have a demon; but I honor My Father, and you dishonor Me.

And I do not seek My own glory; there is One who seeks and judges.

Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death."

Then the Jews said to Him, "Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, 'If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.'

Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?"

Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.

Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, 'I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word.

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."

Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"

Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

John 8:40-59

Nice.

Out of the depths of your soul...

Can't deal with Truth, can you?

Let's see you try, genius.


You are but the fool who walks into the castle of the king, shits on his floor, and then casts accusations against him for kicking his pathetic undeserving ass from his presence.

Cowards like your are a penny a dozen nowadays. You are not worth my time, and this thread is far beyond anything you represent.

Try to comprehend, genius:
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Cowards like your are a penny a dozen nowadays. You are not worth my time,

Impotent coward. All bravado and ego.

Utterly unable to deal with documented substance.

You define Epic Fail.

Bible Truth- irrefutable prophecy

The Precision of Prophecy
Daniel’s 70 Weeks
by Chuck Missler

Irrefutably Documented

To fully appreciate the remarkable significance of the following article, it is essential to realize that the Book of Daniel, as part of the Old Testament, was translated into Greek prior to 270 B.C., almost three centuries before Christ was born. This is a well-established fact of secular history.1

The Septuagint

After his conquest of the Babylonian Empire, Alexander the Great promoted the Greek language throughout the known world, and thus almost everyone - including the Jews - spoke Greek. Hebrew fell into disuse, being reserved primarily for ceremonial purposes (somewhat analogous to the use of Latin among Roman Catholics).

In order to make the Jewish Scriptures (what we call the Old Testament) available to the average Jewish reader, a project was undertaken under the sponsorship of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285-246 B.C.) to translate the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek. Seventy scholars were commissioned to complete this work and their result is known as the "Septuagint" ("70") translation. (This is often abbreviated "LXX" and is so shown on the diagram.)

The Book of Daniel is actually one of the most authenticated books of the Old Testament, historically and archaeologically, but this is a convenient shortcut for our purposes here. It is critical to realize that the Book of Daniel existed in documented form almost three centuries before Christ was born.

Gabriel's Zinger

Daniel, originally deported as a teenager (now near the end of the Babylonian captivity), was reading in the Book of Jeremiah. He understood that the seventy years of servitude were almost over and he began to pray for his people.

The Angel Gabriel interrupted Daniel's prayer and gave him a four-verse prophecy that is unquestionably the most remarkable passage in the entire Bible: Daniel 9:24-27.

These four verses include the following segments:

9:24 The Scope of the Entire Prophecy;
9:25 The 69 Weeks;
9:26 An Interval between the 69th and 70th Week;
9:27 The 70th Week.

The Scope (Dan 9:24)

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy Place .

Daniel 9:24

The idiom of a "week" of years was common in Israel as a "sabbath for the land," in which the land was to lie fallow every seventh year.2 It was their failure to obey these laws that led to God sending them into captivity under the Babylonians.3

Note that the focus of this passage is upon "thy people and upon thy holy city," that is, upon Israel and Jerusalem. (It is not directed to the Church.)

The scope of this prophecy includes a broad list of things which clearly have yet to be completed.

The First 69 Weeks (Dan 9:25)

A very specific prediction occurs in verse 25:

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.


Daniel 9:25

This includes a mathematical prophecy. As we have noted in previous articles, the Jewish (and Babylonian) calendars used a 360-day year;4 69 weeks of 360-day years totals 173,880 days. In effect, Gabriel told Daniel that the interval between the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem until the presentation of the Messiah as King would be 173,880 days.

The "Messiah the Prince" in the King James translation is actually the Meshiach Nagid, "The Messiah the King." (Nagid is first used of King Saul.)

Bull's-Eye!

The commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus on March 14, 445 B.C.5 (The emphasis in the verse on "the street" and "the wall" was to avoid confusion with other earlier mandates confined to rebuilding the Temple.)

During the ministry of Jesus Christ there were several occasions in which the people attempted to promote Him as king, but He carefully avoided it: "Mine hour is not yet come".6

The Triumphal Entry

Then, one day, He meticulously arranges it.7 On this particular day he rode into the city of Jerusalem riding on a donkey, deliberately fulfilling a prophecy by Zechariah that the Messiah would present Himself as king in just that way:

Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Zechariah 9:9

Whenever we might easily miss the significance of what was going on, the Pharisees come to our rescue. They felt that the overzealous crowd was blaspheming, proclaiming Jesus as the Messiah the King.8 However, Jesus endorsed it!

I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

Luke 19:40

This is the only occasion that Jesus presented Himself as King. It occurred on April 6, 32 A.D.9

The Precision of Prophecy

When we examine the period between March 14, 445 B.C. and April 6, 32 A.D., and correct for leap years, we discover that it is 173,880 days exactly, to the very day!

How could Daniel have known this in advance? How could anyone have contrived to have this detailed prediction documented over three centuries in advance? But there's more.

The Interval (Dan 9:26)

There appears to be a gap between the 69th week (verse 25) and the 70th week (verse 27):

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Daniel 9:26

The sixty-two "weeks" follow the initial seven, so verse 26 deals with events after 69th week, but before the 70th. These events include the Messiah being killed and the city and sanctuary being destroyed.

As Jesus approached the city on the donkey, He also predicted the destruction of Jerusalem:

For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

Luke 19:43-44

The Messiah was, of course, executed at the Crucifixion..."but not for Himself."

The city and the sanctuary were destroyed 38 years later when the Roman legions under Titus Vespasian leveled the city of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, precisely as Daniel and Jesus had predicted. In fact, as one carefully examines Jesus' specific words, it appears that He held them accountable to know this astonishing prophecy in Daniel 9! "Because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation."

The 70th Week

There is a remaining seven-year period to be fulfilled. This period is the most documented period in the entire Bible. The Book of Revelation, Chapters 6 through 19, is essentially a detailing of that climactic period.

The interval between the 69th and 70th week continues, but it is increasingly apparent that it may soon be over.

The more one is familiar with the numerous climactic themes of "end-time" prophecy, the more it seems that Daniel's 70th Week is on our horizon.

Have you done your homework? Are you and your family prepared?


--NOTES
1. Encyclopedia Britannica , Volume 10, p. 642.
2. Leviticus 25:1-22; 26:3-35; Deuteronomy 15.
3. 2 Chronicles 36:20-21.
4. Genesis 7:24; 8:3,4; Revelation 11:2; 12:6; 13:3,4; etc.
5. First identified in Sir Robert Anderson's classic work, The Coming Prince, published originally in 1894. Now available in any Christian bookstore.
6. John 6:15. Always in control: John 7:30, 44; 8:59; 10:39.
7. Luke 19:28-40.
8. Luke 19:39.
9. Luke 3:1: Tiberias appointed in A.D. 14; 15th year, A.D. 29; the 4th Passover occurred in A.D. 32.

Impotent coward. All bravado and ego.

Utterly unable to deal with documented substance.

You define Epic Fail.


Thanks for showing your True colors here for all to see. The "good" little "loving" Christian that I've come to despise during the unpleasantness of your presence over the many decades I was fool enough to put myself through that pathetic nonsense.

Your "god" and your actions fully define the mini-man.

Keep up the good work!!

Thanks for showing your True colors here for all to see.