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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708206
6/22/2009 1:43 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
How about Hard Truth?
Maybe he can help you too?
Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?
Or not.
Genius. |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 1:44 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
How about Hard Truth?
Maybe he can help you too?
Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?
Or not.
Genius. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206
Isn't it time for you to wipe the spittle from your screen? 
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708206
6/22/2009 1:46 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:3-4
Done.
Yours truly,
JudeBrando |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
6/22/2009 1:48 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
1) the perspective from the 'real God'...or 'what is':
nothing real can be harmed. nothing unreal exists. Once this is understood..therein lies the peace of God and his creations...(no more illusions of pain). (only your ego image can be harmed, physical and mental...and it is not real in any way. Let go, and be free(within stillness)...or see #2 below if you wish to continue suffering in delusions.
Consider yourself in a virtual dream world and when you awake from this (at the time that your body dies)you will THEN be aware that no one ever got hurt. No one ever died.
This IS a dream. This IS a dream. In every sense of the word
2) the perspective from the Demigods (the gods of worship)(superbeings):
through adversity comes growth . a 'good' father lets his children suffer in order to grow and evolve...
END OF STORY.
can you find error in this , OP? |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 1:49 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.
For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:3-4
Done.
Yours truly,
JudeBrando Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206
Apparently this fictional man was writing about people like yourself.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 1:51 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
1) the perspective from the 'real God'...or 'what is':
nothing real can be harmed. nothing unreal exists. Once this is understood..therein lies the peace of God and his creations...(no more illusions of pain). (only your ego image can be harmed, physical and mental...and it is not real in any way. Let go, and be free(within stillness)...or see #2 below if you wish to continue suffering in delusions.
Consider yourself in a virtual dream world and when you awake from this (at the time that your body dies)you will THEN be aware that no one ever got hurt. No one ever died.
This IS a dream. This IS a dream. In every sense of the word
2) the perspective from the Demigods (the gods of worship)(superbeings):
through adversity comes growth . a 'good' father lets his children suffer in order to grow and evolve...
END OF STORY.
can you find error in this , OP? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
So, are you like that dog that only knows one trick?
We dealt with this 20 pages ago and you feel need to rehash this all yet again?
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 1:52 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
IRREFUTABLE TRUTH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206
Right, just like your lies of being "done".
Really, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
M'kay? 
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708206
6/22/2009 1:53 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Why can't you deal with facts and substance, self-exalted genius? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
6/22/2009 1:55 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
1) the perspective from the 'real God'...or 'what is':
nothing real can be harmed. nothing unreal exists. Once this is understood..therein lies the peace of God and his creations...(no more illusions of pain). (only your ego image can be harmed, physical and mental...and it is not real in any way. Let go, and be free(within stillness)...or see #2 below if you wish to continue suffering in delusions.
Consider yourself in a virtual dream world and when you awake from this (at the time that your body dies)you will THEN be aware that no one ever got hurt. No one ever died.
This IS a dream. This IS a dream. In every sense of the word
2) the perspective from the Demigods (the gods of worship)(superbeings):
through adversity comes growth . a 'good' father lets his children suffer in order to grow and evolve...
END OF STORY.
can you find error in this , OP?
So, are you like that dog that only knows one trick?
We dealt with this 20 pages ago and you feel need to rehash this all yet again?
i could not find a response to this post. if you could direct me to it?
when I first posted it, you did not respond, although you did respond to others at that time.
Are you so sure that your God is 'the' God? If something is written, why is man so quick to grasp it and call it 'real'?
There is no proof of divinity, only written words that describe beings that call themselves such.
and if such a being (demigod) demonstrates power...does that make him 'God'?
is power demonstrative of divinity? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
6/22/2009 2:07 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
when I first posted it, you did not respond, although you did respond to others at that time.
Are you so sure that your God is 'the' God? If something is written, why is man so quick to grasp it and call it 'real'?
There is no proof of divinity, only written words that describe beings that call themselves such.
and if such a being (demigod) demonstrates power...does that make him 'God'?
is power demonstrative of divinity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
i've been looking at some responses you made in regards to other posts that resembled mine.
i was not online when you answered my post..if you in fact did.
i find it amazing that a man can read something or even see something like a demonstration of power...and then ASSUME that it means that it is of 'God'.
what i am observing from your statements is that when a being :
1) is revered by others as a 'God'
2) makes public demonstrations of power
3) commands lowly followers to write down his words
the above demands that everyone should believe the words he says?
are you so sure that your 'reward' is waiting for you Saxon?
you are not. you may have been personally promised from Jehovah himself...but do you KNOW?
no. you trust. you trust he will live up to his word. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
6/22/2009 2:08 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
no response, again? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
6/22/2009 2:16 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
no response, again? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
wtf?
what happened to your eloquence? where is your masterful articulation? |
| Just so Ya Know.!.
User ID: 708241
6/22/2009 2:32 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
when I first posted it, you did not respond, although you did respond to others at that time.
Are you so sure that your God is 'the' God? If something is written, why is man so quick to grasp it and call it 'real'?
There is no proof of divinity, only written words that describe beings that call themselves such.
and if such a being (demigod) demonstrates power...does that make him 'God'?
is power demonstrative of divinity?
i've been looking at some responses you made in regards to other posts that resembled mine.
i was not online when you answered my post..if you in fact did.
i find it amazing that a man can read something or even see something like a demonstration of power...and then ASSUME that it means that it is of 'God'.
what i am observing from your statements is that when a being :
1) is revered by others as a 'God'
2) makes public demonstrations of power
3) commands lowly followers to write down his words
the above demands that everyone should believe the words he says?
are you so sure that your 'reward' is waiting for you Saxon?
you are not. you may have been personally promised from Jehovah himself...but do you KNOW?
no. you trust. you trust he will live up to his word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
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There is Only One True God The Creator The Eternal Self Existence ONE.
There is A Plane of Existence Outside of this Universe Space Time Continuum.
Where God and His Children Live.
And Yes it IS The Very Same God of the Bible When Understood By the Holy Spirt.
Just ME.!. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 2:40 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
The book of Ezekiel translated the way I did says that "problem" Flames can be rerouted to bind with another IF it gets totally unworkable. That's mostly something we'll be seeing around this time due the "timing" nature of what's happening. For instance, as is in my case, if a woman's Twin just cannot come up to speed, especially in time for the "supplanting" issue upon us now "in time" for the event, then he'll get put back in the "system" and she'll be put with someone predetermined for her. These are rather special and unusual events, and these things are known long in advance and then worked by our Creator in very unusual ways.
Isis is a good example, as she loses Osiris and of course can never find his penis (i.e. he never gets it together to be what she needs), SO, she reportedly "generates" herself a "golden penis" to ultimately replace Osiris as her husband. In that case, she is set to be joined to her long lost son Horus. I know, that's very unusual in our mortal standards here, but things are a bit different in the immortal realms.
That's the rumor. I'm not really sure about that, and it's not really up to me to decide either. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it. In any case, those are reportedly VERY small numbers/percentages of the entirety.
Yes, ready for "binding" here. They, those looking after them, "wind/bind" their Hearts together and cross their fingers. 
It's rare, but in times like these currently, not as rare. In general, overall, such is a VERY small percentage thing and not something to dwell upon unless it's directly involving yourself or someone you Love.
"Also the "pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect" sounds like a being whose mind changed, or became clear in a sense.
Thank you."
Interesting wording. To me such is someone given over to the spirit development program, confident and sure of the Love which drives the system.
Hi Saxon,
Im getting a little confused with so much "penis" related legends with higher beings.
Losing and worshiping (longing for) said penises.
Also the story of Osiris losing a penis somehow seems similar to an Annunaki discussion.
Forgive me if I am remembering this incorrectly.
It seemed there was a fella named Anu who had to 'wrestle' a rival or maybe family for some reason and either bit the rival's penis off or got his removed.
Those examples seem very on the 'WWF' kind of level.
So in the case of Lucifer and his twin flame, if he does not want a reunion to his lovely lady, she gets an alternative?
If so it seems some lucky fella is eligible for an 'rejected' goddess 'out there'. ;)
From reading your case, I get the impression you are a woman. Is this correct? I always assumed you were male for some reason.
"Also the "pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect" sounds like a being whose mind changed, or became clear in a sense.
Thank you."
"pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect".
It reminds me of the idea that unless one can first remove some 'distortions', it is hard to even Know what "pure will is".
Therefore, the mind is, delusional in a sense, "unassuaged of purpose".
Kind of reminds me of saying "if you don't even know that a lie is a lie, how do you know the truth?"
This just seemed like another example where it is the 'current mind' that needs some 'adjustment'.
This also reminded me of the following from your website regarding "12 (Twelve)…..”The Hanged Man” (The Lust of the Mind)":
"The Hanged Man picture/card is symbolic of the Male “place” within the picture of “Lust’. This is the “Raven”, the Lust of the Mind upon which so many arrogant are “crucified” once the “bond” of Love is lost. (Love being the “green” Venus portion of the picture.) The obvious overtone within this “watery” (Female) picture is that of the Male turned on his “head”, a head which is FILLED with “serpent” understanding. So, in the way that the eternal Female collective is shown trapped and compromised by the Beast so shows this picture, The Hanged Man, the eternal Male collective, trapped in a “Beast” of their own initiation. The very system which the above “initiates” mindlessly grovel before is, as was the Beast of Lust, the very thing which “nails” Him to a "wall"..."
Thank you |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 618285
6/22/2009 2:47 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
There is Only One True God The Creator The Eternal Self Existence ONE.
There is A Plane of Existence Outside of this Universe Space Time Continuum.
Where God and His Children Live.
And Yes it IS The Very Same God of the Bible When Understood By the Holy Spirt.
Just ME.!.
i enjoyed your post.
I have experienced what you have described...
but i did not draw a correlation between my experiences and the God of the OT.
I speculate, as the Gnostics did , that there are many, many Demigods that call themselves 'God' that demonstrate incredible powers to dominate entire populations.
The 'God' that I experienced is not of any type that is demonstrated in the OT. 'He' is in all things , through all things and is the life of ALL things. ...he is not physical, nor has he ever been...nor has he commanded populations to worship him. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 2:50 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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Hi Saxon,
This reminds me of the mystical ideas behind "being true to oneself" and that only 'oneself can truly show oneself'. Also that only oneself can make that choice for oneself. Or somethinglike that.
Thank you.
Yes, some call this "inner sight", and generally relates to that "ability" to honestly and accurately see one's self as one REALLY is rather than what one likes to "think" one is.
Being True to one's self is more along the lines of not letting everyone around one's self decide where one is going in life. This too has to be approached carefully as many use this living "clause" to justify all kinds of narcissistic behavior. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
It seems that when one only has a glimmer of "Being True", the 'ego' can go sort of crazy, hence the "narcissistic behavior", right?
Would like to state that, I don't feel that the male side (which is pretty brutal and arrogant) seen as logic/Mind needs to be 'obliterated', but merely that this aspect in our being needs the most 'critical self reassessment'.
Also from your website, i get the impression that for someone who would like 'this kingdom' to stay the same (maintain the status quo), it doesn't matter which side dominates, whether the male or the female aspect. As long as one is 'dominating' over another, it still serves the same purpose.
So 'balance' seems to describe the "unity of the (2 but really 1) pillars", a sort of 'mutual' equally honoring way it feels.
Seen in this way, the domination of the male, or the female, seems more like a pendulum sort of thing. It's just hard to imagine the lovely females, lusting after power in their own way, being dominating 'gangsta bitches' to the fellas in some timeline.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 2:59 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
No, not Obelisks, but rather Pillars. There is MUCH difference between the two. The Pillar represents the Children of God in the Kingdom while Obelisks, as you say, represent the penis of Osiris generally speaking. If you'll notice, the proportions of Obelisks are quite constant, and are allegedly reported to represent the penises of the "gods".
No, the obelisk thing isn't simply about fetishes, but constitute an "agreement" of sorts, that's why one finds them in the middle of the Vatican grounds and built into all the Catholic Churches of Europe. Such symbolically represents the right to the children of Osiris, hence most everyone here in this galaxy. That's why the story of Isis has her searching high and low for the penis of Osiris, not because she's a big penis hound, but because such represents her children. She is hoping to bring her children home, something that was just realized recently, hence the reason for all the changes now taking place.
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Exactly, the Mind is WAY over represented in the "ascension" process here with the Heart being totally under stated in the affair. That's all part of the fallen confusing everyone here to focus all their energy on the WRONG things, thereby tricking them into reincarnating over and over and over with virtually no spiritual progress.
For this reason, you will find most Mystic Occult types to be WAY focused upon "secrets", "codes" and "hidden truth" while generally mocking REAL Love. (They also redefine Love to get it out of the way) Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
I thought you were talking about the "Cleopatra's Needle" which I believe is in Central Park and the other pair in London (also another one having to be in Paris) and they all definitely looked like Obelisks, ala Washington Monument.
But to recall a "pillar" like structure in the Vatican and one more like pillar also in London's Financial District (i think both were from pictures, never been there).
Also, "focused upon "secrets", "codes" and "hidden truth" while generally mocking REAL Love"...
That reminds me of constantly telling folks to "adhere to the codes the and laws". Only it seems that in most cases they have a set of codes and laws for the rest of us (in as a fellow schmoes sense) and one just 'for them'.
A sort of like "do as I says, not as I do's".
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 3:14 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
I generally call our Creator the Big Kahuna at times, so, I'm not quite sure who you're meaning here. But the children of those 12 pillars, IMO, are likely the descendants of Lucifer/Set, those incarnating here to forward the campaign of the fallen against the general Twin Flame foundation of the Kingdom.
IMO, the whole "garden of Eden" story is about the fall of the watchers NOT, the "fall of man", as man could never fall. How does one fall from where they have not been? However, in that same story, is the intermixing of the "gods/goddesses" with the mortal based people of the "vineyard" they were to be watching. As many of the gods and goddesses were violently rejected by their Twins for the various reasons, many of them turned to mortals in an attempt to fill those voids.
I'm reasonably certain that Horus is the "One", Pahana, the Akae (promise), the returning Knight etc. He was once joined to Hathor/Venus/Aphrodite/Ishtar and it is Lucifer who seduced her from her original husband Horus. That's what the reported fight between Horus/Set was all about, where (it's told backwards of course) Horus ripped out the eye of Set, hence the "all seeing eye" of this world, and Set ripped off the penis of Horus (i.e. took his wife).
..... Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
I generally refer to the Creator as "the Father". I implied 'big kahuna' (in lower caps) as someone who wants to be treated and seen as the 'big boss' but is not the real 'Big Boss'. ;)
It's hard to imagine beautiful goddess ladies getting "violently rejected" and having to resort to the 'schmoes' to 'fill their voids'. but again knowing how we do this ourselves, not so surprising.
Horus as "the One".. the returning Knight/light... that sounds like a 'Jesus', still.
Also being his is a part of a 'duality natured' brothers theme (like morning/evening star).. that seems like a well played out legend. Think there were several civilizations like the Romans of two brothers... to even Quetzalcoatl/Smokey Mirror, to even Enki and Enlil from Sumerian legends (i think). In the case of the latter, they both seemed like 'big jerks' in a good cop/bad cop way.
Thank you |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 3:35 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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In any regard, the long throw plan of this past age was to put both Horus and Hathor back here incarnate, and by so doing demonstrate to the fallen Divine Female collective both the power of Real Love, and the fact that THEY TOO could return home in much the same way. That is what is being symbolized by the "Arrow shot" etc.
In this case I suspect you're referring to Lucifer/Set losing, as the previous was done on his own "playing board" (that's the checkerboard squares of the Secret Society floors, the "game" of life here) In any case, this galaxy had been quarantined due to the rapid advancement of the fallen upon the non-fallen, using methods much like they did from the start, generally seducing their way to the top of the structure etc.
The point has always been to "develop" those persons who could overcome the "Beast" of their system as well the example set by both Horus and Hathor in Loving embrace right under the noses of the fallen of the Set/Lucifer temple who "played" every "play" they had and then some to STOP both Horus and Hathor from reuniting.
It is, much like when one beats the last "boss" in Zelda or whatever. The game has finished, but the whole effect is now working its way through the system here, looking to change the Hearts and minds of as many of the fallen as possible prior to the "board reset". (typically pole shifts ect.) However, many are feeling the continual upward spiritual movement of this place as such completes.
No, losing simply means they were unsuccessful in blocking both the reuniting of Horus and Hathor as well the resultant implosion of their "Female Machine" (aka, body provider system) once they "got the picture". They've always been told that severed Flames could never be reunited. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Hi Saxon,
So the nature of the 'redemption or overcoming' is Horus and Hathor 'reuniting'?
I must be missing a big chunk of the story. Why was the twin flames 'reuniting' seen as something impossible to do?
Is this a case of the lady missin her man, and her fellow coming back for her in a sense?
Can you share more in the nature of the battle where the "last boss in Zelda" lost? When did this happen, is it related to the ages like when the 'gods' walked the earth openly past? Like the age of pisces? what did that age symbolize?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 3:44 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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The extreme inner power is that power which withstands any outside force looking to destabilize one's inner peace. This ability is found in the Heart, not the Mind as many wrongly assume. It is directly connected to knowing thyself and is the final development of such. That inner power is the very thing which allows the "two witnesses" of Revelation (of course the story is very corrupted) stand back up on their feet after being "dead" for three days and "go back to Heaven". What this is actually talking about is the world's inability to "kill" Real Love, NOT the more silly notion of bringing mortal bodies back to "life".
The real "two witnesses" are actually Horus and Hathor as I detailed earlier. And the REAL message is what I told you just a few paragraphs above, not some "B" acting part out of some Hollywood "Moses" flick.
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No, the Heart in proper function has it's own "knowing", and forms the foundation upon which the Mind rests for proper perspective. Think of the over developed Mind resting upon a very under-developed Heart in much the same way as a very powerful , precisely aimed laser mounted in a bog of mud. Guess how accurate one's "shot" will be?
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The fall of Babylon directly matches Stitchin's account of the slave outbreaks and what not that the fallen watchers encountered with their abused mortal booty. To keep them all "dumbed down" and weak, they divided their languages. Keep in mind that the "god" speaking in the Hebrew there is Set/Lucifer, NOT our Creator. And the "Heaven" they might reach, is the very Heaven I'm talking about. Divide and conquer, EVER the motto of the fallen.
Remember that the Elohim fallen have impressive ability with DNA mortal constructs and could either "program" such, or more simply separated infants from their mothers and forced alternate languages upon them.
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Yes, Babylon is the "confusion" of the mortal realms to make sure they never use the "portal to Heaven" the way it has always been intended to be used by our Creator.
Hi Saxon,
"The extreme inner power is that power which withstands any outside force looking to destabilize one's inner peace. This ability is found in the Heart..."
That reminds me of the idea of "being within the eye of the hurricane"... the mystical idea of a 'tempered' being that can remain calm, powered from inner peace, even when surrounded by a storm. Like the idea of "being able to smile even when surrounded by chaos/hell" kind of thing.
Can you share more in regards to the "slave outbreaks"? What lead to that, were all humans slaves? Also, what is the factor that accounts for the different races, do the Elohim also consider the different races as 'like them', like the 'rudy human caucasian' brothers and sisters?
"separating infants from their mothers"... i think humans do that to their animals, and to one another... do you think this is a 'learned' thing, like part of the programming kind of thing?
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 3:47 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
How is one "faithful and true" towards their twin flame?
Thank you.
One who Loves their Twin Flame in spite of everything they've ever done, and every harm and hurt they have unintentionally and intentionally perpetrated against them is INDEED, Faithful and True.
Such is the "new" paradigm of Real Love, now impacting the rebellion. Forgiveness and reconciliation is the VanGuard of the age of Aquarius.
Hi Saxon,
Can you share more in regards to the "new paradigm of Real Love impacting the rebellion"?
Sure do look forward to seeing some genuine "forgiveness and reconciliation" towards selves and towards one another.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
6/22/2009 3:54 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
How is one " faithful and true" towards their twin flame?
Thank you.
One who Loves their Twin Flame in spite of everything they've ever done, and every harm and hurt they have unintentionally and intentionally perpetrated against them is INDEED, Faithful and True.
Such is the "new" paradigm of Real Love, now impacting the rebellion. Forgiveness and reconciliation is the VanGuard of the age of Aquarius.
Hi Saxon,
If one could express and realize that kind of love towards self and all beings (as one's twin flame in a sense), I imagine that would be like the "Real Love", the unconditional kind, or that 'Christ Love'.
This one sure can't claim to have done that yet, struggling at the the whole love the unlovable thing most times. :(
Aspiration is there though. The only attribution that seemed to fit was with the 'Jesus', but not from how my churches taught me however, there was crushing sense of void from there from my experiences.
Thank you. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708871
6/22/2009 9:48 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
just shoot me
i have suffered enough
this game is endless and repetitive
I know how you feel, and yeah, all of this is repetitive like the spinning of a washing machine. However, the benefit to the many is outweighing the discomfort of the few.
The "hold" remains until the maximum benefit of the "win" for the Children of God is realized.
We're all suffering, just hang on man.
thanks.
the older i get, the more i can't take this cycle anymore.
seems like when i let my inner glow shine, life comes along to try and put out my fire.
i hate it.
physicality comes with aging.....
i hate the battle part.
i want to be on the sidelines so bad.
i know my life is special.
we all are....
america is so materialistic.
and wasteful of everything precious.
i feel like tinkerbell.
but, i am spacie. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 708941
6/22/2009 11:07 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
dang.
sorry about my thread drift.
just got back from putting my car in the shop.
i walked back home, and bumped into several neighbors...
i think that is why we are here......
to just BE and mingle with each other.
we are all so different.
one part of me, gets depressed, while another part of me...picks me up and puts me back on track.
i truly believe god/creator, does not want us to suffer.
our source delights when we are full of joy.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 12:31 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
i could not find a response to this post. if you could direct me to it?
when I first posted it, you did not respond, although you did respond to others at that time.
Are you so sure that your God is 'the' God? If something is written, why is man so quick to grasp it and call it 'real'?
There is no proof of divinity, only written words that describe beings that call themselves such.
and if such a being (demigod) demonstrates power...does that make him 'God'?
is power demonstrative of divinity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
If not in this thread, then in another, and I'm sure you're the same person I had the multiple post exchange on the subject. And I'm sure you remember what was said.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 709012
6/22/2009 12:50 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
There is Only One True God The Creator The Eternal Self Existence ONE.
There is A Plane of Existence Outside of this Universe Space Time Continuum.
Where God and His Children Live.
And Yes it IS The Very Same God of the Bible When Understood By the Holy Spirt.
Just ME.!.
i enjoyed your post.
I have experienced what you have described...
but i did not draw a correlation between my experiences and the God of the OT.
I speculate, as the Gnostics did , that there are many, many Demigods that call themselves 'God' that demonstrate incredible powers to dominate entire populations.
The 'God' that I experienced is not of any type that is demonstrated in the OT. 'He' is in all things , through all things and is the life of ALL things. ...he is not physical, nor has he ever been...nor has he commanded populations to worship him.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
when I first posted it, you did not respond, although you did respond to others at that time.
Are you so sure that your God is 'the' God? If something is written, why is man so quick to grasp it and call it 'real'? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
I don't need the writings of others to know God. Each inherently has the ability to KNOW God, the question being whether they will make the effort to "find the Kingdom" and hence get to know the King and Queen.
There is no proof of divinity, only written words that describe beings that call themselves such.
and if such a being (demigod) demonstrates power...does that make him 'God'?
is power demonstrative of divinity? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
No, power demonstration is meaningless in the search for Truth, just like the amazing "miracles" of Set/Lucifer etc. Such things are typically used to DECEIVE the people, NOT show them the Truth.
i've been looking at some responses you made in regards to other posts that resembled mine.
i was not online when you answered my post..if you in fact did.
i find it amazing that a man can read something or even see something like a demonstration of power...and then ASSUME that it means that it is of 'God'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
I do too as stated above.
what i am observing from your statements is that when a being :
1) is revered by others as a 'God'
2) makes public demonstrations of power
3) commands lowly followers to write down his words
the above demands that everyone should believe the words he says? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
I have no idea WHO's posts you're reading, but they are CERTAINLY NOT my own. Stop making seat of the pants assumptions about myself extrapolated from what YOU "think" I'm saying.
are you so sure that your 'reward' is waiting for you Saxon? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
My reward is just as "sure" as your own and EVERYONE else's for that matter. What you do here will DIRECTLY impact the condition of both your oversoul and spirit. There is no magic "salvation" handed out by some mythical demi-god.
you are not. you may have been personally promised from Jehovah himself...but do you KNOW?
no. you trust. you trust he will live up to his word. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
And now the same guy that can't even get the simple things I"m saying straight is going to tell me what I am or am not "sure" of.
According to you I'm hanging my hat on Jehovah/Set/Lucifer/Jesus eh?
Try reading ANYTHING I'm actually saying and show me where you'd get such an idiotic notion.
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 12:59 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
no response, again?
wtf?
what happened to your eloquence? where is your masterful articulation? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 618285
For a guy with the reading comprehension of a 5 year old, you are most full of yourself. Such is ever the way of fools like yourself.
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| HardTruth 
User ID: 709019
6/22/2009 1:02 PM
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How about Hard Truth?
Maybe he can help you too?
Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?
Or not.
Genius. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206
Why should I waist time debating dishonest christians?
You and I both know there can be no proof of prophecies when text are altered and/or based solely on he said she said testimonies written after the so called facts!
You lack any insight into the divine, let alone have the ability of stand alone thought!!
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| Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/22/2009 1:47 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
Im getting a little confused with so much "penis" related legends with higher beings.
Losing and worshiping (longing for) said penises. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The penis and womb/female notion is a constant throughout creation, and is the reason most all of the early symbols are founded in such. Our very being and life is determined by the two generative details of our Creation. Therefore, it is of no surprise that so much information is aimed at such symbols. Were it not for such, none of us would be here, and "out there", there would exist a relatively small group of primarily generated Mothers and Fathers.
Also the story of Osiris losing a penis somehow seems similar to an Annunaki discussion.
Forgive me if I am remembering this incorrectly.
It seemed there was a fella named Anu who had to 'wrestle' a rival or maybe family for some reason and either bit the rival's penis off or got his removed.
Those examples seem very on the 'WWF' kind of level. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
This is more than likely the same story told by yet another group of people.
So in the case of Lucifer and his twin flame, if he does not want a reunion to his lovely lady, she gets an alternative?
If so it seems some lucky fella is eligible for an 'rejected' goddess 'out there'. ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
That can depend upon the woman as well, and how well she has withstood the ravages of the ages. If she is in good spiritual form and in no need of "salvaging" in the current age, then she will be "given" to another capable of being joined to her.
From reading your case, I get the impression you are a woman. Is this correct? I always assumed you were male for some reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
No, I am male and will always remain such. I speak for women much and this probably has to do with the confusion.
"Also the "pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect" sounds like a being whose mind changed, or became clear in a sense.
Thank you."
"pure will, unassuaged of purpose, delivered from the lust of result, is every way perfect".
It reminds me of the idea that unless one can first remove some 'distortions', it is hard to even Know what "pure will is".
Therefore, the mind is, delusional in a sense, "unassuaged of purpose". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Delusional in immaturity. Although cute, are not the minds of children "delusional" about many things? They are, and such is just part of the growing process.
Kind of reminds me of saying "if you don't even know that a lie is a lie, how do you know the truth?"
This just seemed like another example where it is the 'current mind' that needs some 'adjustment'.
This also reminded me of the following from your website regarding "12 (Twelve)…..”The Hanged Man” (The Lust of the Mind)":
"The Hanged Man picture/card is symbolic of the Male “place” within the picture of “Lust’. This is the “Raven”, the Lust of the Mind upon which so many arrogant are “crucified” once the “bond” of Love is lost. (Love being the “green” Venus portion of the picture.) The obvious overtone within this “watery” (Female) picture is that of the Male turned on his “head”, a head which is FILLED with “serpent” understanding. So, in the way that the eternal Female collective is shown trapped and compromised by the Beast so shows this picture, The Hanged Man, the eternal Male collective, trapped in a “Beast” of their own initiation. The very system which the above “initiates” mindlessly grovel before is, as was the Beast of Lust, the very thing which “nails” Him to a "wall"..."
Thank you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
One ascertains the Truth from the overall Kingdom picture, something which rejects lies by definition.
Yes, this is the "cross" upon which males are tested and tried. The male is the bringer of the "spark" of the spiritual to the "ground" of the physical realm. In that sense, women are natural manifesters of the spirit in physical form. In the Hebrew they are called "burdens" to males, something which is "hung" around his neck on the road of life, or the harvester in the field.
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