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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 2:15 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
There is Only One True God The Creator The Eternal Self Existence ONE.
There is A Plane of Existence Outside of this Universe Space Time Continuum.
Where God and His Children Live.
And Yes it IS The Very Same God of the Bible When Understood By the Holy Spirt.

Just ME.!. Quoting: Just so Ya Know.!. 708241
The so called "god" of the Bible is Yahweh/Set/Lucifer/Jesus, the "vengeful" "spiteful" "hateful" little man of the fall.
And as well, the "spirit" of Lucifer/Set/Jesus will indeed "lead" you to the supposed "truth" of that deception.
The Creator is NOTHING like any of the above as the "god" you're worshiping and groveling before is no more a God than I am. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| little star User ID: 687974 6/22/2009 2:21 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
There is Only One True God The Creator The Eternal Self Existence ONE.
There is A Plane of Existence Outside of this Universe Space Time Continuum.
Where God and His Children Live.
And Yes it IS The Very Same God of the Bible When Understood By the Holy Spirt.

Just ME.!.
The so called "god" of the Bible is Yahweh/Set/Lucifer/Jesus, the "vengeful" "spiteful" "hateful" little man of the fall.
And as well, the "spirit" of Lucifer/Set/Jesus will indeed "lead" you to the supposed "truth" of that deception.
The Creator is NOTHING like any of the above as the "god" you're worshiping and groveling before is no more a God than I am. Quoting: Saxon (777)
Can you or anyone tell us all what the Creator looks like? |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 2:34 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
It seems that when one only has a glimmer of "Being True", the 'ego' can go sort of crazy, hence the "narcissistic behavior", right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
It certainly can, and that's why the maturity of the Heart is SO important in all of this. The Heart ultimately grounds the ego and reigns in the Mind.
Would like to state that, I don't feel that the male side (which is pretty brutal and arrogant) seen as logic/Mind needs to be 'obliterated', but merely that this aspect in our being needs the most 'critical self reassessment'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Assuredly not, as those kinds of things in controlled moderation are greatly LOVED by mature women.
Maturity which yields balance and control is the key.
Also from your website, i get the impression that for someone who would like 'this kingdom' to stay the same (maintain the status quo), it doesn't matter which side dominates, whether the male or the female aspect. As long as one is 'dominating' over another, it still serves the same purpose.
So 'balance' seems to describe the "unity of the (2 but really 1) pillars", a sort of 'mutual' equally honoring way it feels. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The purposes of the rebellion are served when men are severed from women, and one or the other takes the "upper hand" and maintains the separation and general angst.
The REAL Kingdom is based upon the joint "rule" of Husband/Wife "units". It's a family structure.
Seen in this way, the domination of the male, or the female, seems more like a pendulum sort of thing. It's just hard to imagine the lovely females, lusting after power in their own way, being dominating 'gangsta bitches' to the fellas in some timeline.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The reign of the Goddess was the very first swing of the pendulum. The whole Hermit meme is about utilizing the more Male sided "logic" to break that grip. And, of course, once that grip is broken, the pendulum swings wildly the other way.
Women naturally step into male positions if need be to seek the support of their children. They don't particularly care to do such, but adapt so such nonetheless.
In the days of rampant spirit immaturity, the reign of bitterness drove MUCH craziness. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 2:39 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
I thought you were talking about the "Cleopatra's Needle" which I believe is in Central Park and the other pair in London (also another one having to be in Paris) and they all definitely looked like Obelisks, ala Washington Monument.
But to recall a "pillar" like structure in the Vatican and one more like pillar also in London's Financial District (i think both were from pictures, never been there). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yup, that's the pair. They actually sank a ship trying to get the one to London in the 1800s if memory serves, forcing them to retrieve it from the bottom of the ocean. That's a little synchy in and of itself.
Also, "focused upon "secrets", "codes" and "hidden truth" while generally mocking REAL Love"...
That reminds me of constantly telling folks to "adhere to the codes the and laws". Only it seems that in most cases they have a set of codes and laws for the rest of us (in as a fellow schmoes sense) and one just 'for them'.
A sort of like "do as I says, not as I do's".
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yes, the "rights" of "royalty" has ever been the double standard of the fallen. There are no "Rights" in the Kingdom, as everyone is equally constrained by our own reality, a Law like "gravity" itself. That's where the notion of becoming "light" came from. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 2:51 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
I generally refer to the Creator as "the Father". I implied 'big kahuna' (in lower caps) as someone who wants to be treated and seen as the 'big boss' but is not the real 'Big Boss'. ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Rodger Dodger.
It's hard to imagine beautiful goddess ladies getting "violently rejected" and having to resort to the 'schmoes' to 'fill their voids'. but again knowing how we do this ourselves, not so surprising. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The primary mover of that part of the rebellion was the massive flood of nearby women "grudge fucking" the Arch Angel "Mighty Men" as another woman had seduced their guy. Once the dominoes start dropping, it's an ugly ugly sight. But I'm sure most here can relate to such things. The human spirit is a constant regardless how amazing the body it may be hanging in at the time.
Horus as "the One".. the returning Knight/light... that sounds like a 'Jesus', still. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yes it does, as the story was set out long ago when Horus left. Therefore, the story has been twisted, contorted and plastered with the face of Lucifer. That's not all that amazing really. But of course, the whole REAL reason that all of this takes place has been stripped from the story. Yes, it's been totally corrupted into the TOTALLY male story of "jesus" coming to KICK ASS!!!!!
That's not the picture AT ALL, although some of the reworking of this world may appear as such to those unaware.
Also being his is a part of a 'duality natured' brothers theme (like morning/evening star).. that seems like a well played out legend. Think there were several civilizations like the Romans of two brothers... to even Quetzalcoatl/Smokey Mirror, to even Enki and Enlil from Sumerian legends (i think). In the case of the latter, they both seemed like 'big jerks' in a good cop/bad cop way.
Thank you Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yes, and like the above story of "jesus", the story has been twisted to confuse for obvious reasons. But yes, the reason this world is in the "fallen" mess is due the very duality of which you speak.
But the duality is not of simply Light and Darkness, but moreso the very foundation of the Twin Flame aspect of the Kingdom.
FREEEEEEEEEEDOM FROM LOVE!!!!!!!!
.......has EVER been the battle cry of the fallen. Therefore, the REAL duality is about Real Love v.s. fake "love". Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| little star User ID: 687974 6/22/2009 2:57 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.. |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:08 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
So the nature of the 'redemption or overcoming' is Horus and Hathor 'reuniting'? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Horus and Hathor set the example which will end the rebellion. In so doing, they re-opened the "door" of the Tree of Life which has been purposely blocked by the fallen. The bigger target of that example is the fallen Divine Feminine themselves. The fallen without the Divine Feminine is a ship with no fuel and no sail, a "sitting duck" for those they imagine to oppose. Such serves a couple of purposes regarding the fallen males in that they'll get the picture quite pointedly of just how important the Divine Feminine REALLY is.
I must be missing a big chunk of the story. Why was the twin flames 'reuniting' seen as something impossible to do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
That's just something that has never been done to date, and certainly not of such a high profile pair like that. The bitterness unleashed during the fall kept all "bitten" by the event pushed in to deep bitterness and promiscuity. It's all about spirit immaturity and such takes quite some time to realize.
Is this a case of the lady missin her man, and her fellow coming back for her in a sense? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yes it is. At the time of the call home, she was hanging out on Venus (surprise surprise ) with her usual groupie naked men "worshippers" flooding her house. She was very weary of the whole mess.
Can you share more in the nature of the battle where the "last boss in Zelda" lost? When did this happen, is it related to the ages like when the 'gods' walked the earth openly past? Like the age of pisces? what did that age symbolize?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The battle was over 7/31/2007 with the completion of the Bridge of Love.
That's when the "losers" went totally berserk, doing anything they could, "cheating" be damned, (cheating is over riding the "game" agreements made prior to the start of the challenge) hoping to turn their loss around. That's the reason they detonated 3 bridges across America the very next day 8/1/2007, hoping to rumble the spiritual realm with the "sacrifices".
By the time October of 2007 rolled around, the Blue Kachina(comet Holmes)was seen in full to announce the successful completion of the mission. Shortly thereafter, the spiritual power of the Earth totally shifted and made MANY go totally off the deep end in regard to their spirits.
Pisces was about "fishing" for men to support the rebellion, when the kingdom of Lucifer went into "high gear". Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| little star User ID: 687974 6/22/2009 3:13 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | What is the "tree of life" ? |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:23 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
"The extreme inner power is that power which withstands any outside force looking to destabilize one's inner peace. This ability is found in the Heart..."
That reminds me of the idea of "being within the eye of the hurricane"... the mystical idea of a 'tempered' being that can remain calm, powered from inner peace, even when surrounded by a storm. Like the idea of "being able to smile even when surrounded by chaos/hell" kind of thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yup, totally. If you are familiar with Dan Fogelberg, you will know the song, "There's a Place in the World for a Gambler".
The 3 refrain of that song applies directly to this topic. The entire song is the mission charter for Horus. Horus is considered to be the greatest "gambler" ever due to the extreme risk of what he set out to do here. Even now, those of the Heavens are still drop-jawed amazed.
[link to www.youtube.com]
There’s A Place In The World For A Gambler
There’s a place in the world
For a gambler
There’s a burden that only
He can bear
There’s a place in the world
For a gambler,
And he sees
Oh, yes he sees...
And he sees
Oh, yes he sees...
There’s a song in the heart
Of a woman
That only the truest of loves
Can release.
There’s a song in the heart
Of a woman.
Set it free
Oh, set it free
Set it free
Oh, set it free
Set it free
Oh, set it free.
There’s a light in the depths
Of your darkness
There’s a calm at the eye
Of every storm.
There’s a light in the depths
Of your darkness.
Let is shine
Oh, let it shine
Let is shine
Oh, let it shine
Let is shine
Oh, let it shine.
Let it shine
Can you share more in regards to the "slave outbreaks"? What lead to that, were all humans slaves? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yes, all humans were slaves to the fallen gods/goddesses. Many of them were sex slaves. The "danger" of the slaves "reaching Heaven" had to do with their maturing and gaining the ability to see through the BS of the fallen gods/goddesses.
Also, what is the factor that accounts for the different races, do the Elohim also consider the different races as 'like them', like the 'rudy human Caucasian' brothers and sisters? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The Caucasians are specifically designed to mimic the look of the Elohim. Elohim reportedly are VERY white, with "china doll" skin and the usual perfect everything. Some glow quite brightly depending.
So no, in the looking like them, the other races do not adhere to that "look" nearly like that. However, that in no way says that the non-fallen do not Love ALL of us, because they most certainly do.
I suspect that the different races account for the varied spirit development platforms which each spirit is "rotated". If you'll note, each race has qualities which are specific to just them, yet another expanding aspect of the overall spirit contained within. Therefore, "racism" is pretty silly considering that most everyone here has been any one of them at one time or another. Being racist here is akin to a senior in a high school hating 7th graders just because whatever.
"separating infants from their mothers"... i think humans do that to their animals, and to one another... do you think this is a 'learned' thing, like part of the programming kind of thing?
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Where ever it came from, it is BAD. Such is a total backhand to what is sought to be developed here. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:32 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
Can you share more in regards to the "new paradigm of Real Love impacting the rebellion"?
Sure do look forward to seeing some genuine "forgiveness and reconciliation" towards selves and towards one another.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
The "Achilles Heel" of the rebellion has always been the future maturing of the group being "worked" by the "con men" of the effort. Their purposely targeting of Venus was too the beginning of their demise, as her Heart is a VERY powerful aspect of her, thereby making simply putting her with yet another guy just not "doable". So, somewhere down the road, her desire to go home to her husband was going to overwhelm the efforts of those looking to keep her there. And since she was SO venerated by SO many women of the fallen, her example was going totally devastate the ranks of the fallen.
The example of REAL Love, Love which overcomes all the hurts and grievances of the past, thereby again extending the Heart of those in reconciliation, is THE vanguard of the Age of Aquarius. Such is seen clearly in the Jim Henson muppet movie, "The Dark Crystal", where the division of the Light and the Darkness transmutes both to once again unite and thereby "synergize" something much more than the original. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| little star User ID: 687974 6/22/2009 3:32 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | Who are the Kenites that you speak of Saxon?
Are they good guys or bad guys? |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:41 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon,
If one could express and realize that kind of love towards self and all beings (as one's twin flame in a sense), I imagine that would be like the "Real Love", the unconditional kind, or that 'Christ Love'. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yes, EXACTLY. However, the "return of Christ" is yet another totally twisted notion of the reality as one would guess here in Babylon/Confusion central. Firstly, "Christ" has never arrived here until recently in the sense of a way of life that holds all people. Had Christ ever arrived in the past, this world 2000 years later would be a MUCH different place.
One must keep in mind that they NEVER Love all their Brothers and Sisters in the sheer magnitude and complexity as they do their Twin Flame, as such unions are VERY specific to the two joined. As well, the other related family Love bonds vary in intensity and complexity for the same reason,as THE primary Love bond is found between the two Flames joined rightly together.
This one sure can't claim to have done that yet, struggling at the the whole love the unlovable thing most times. :( Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
It's an acquired ability and practice makes perfect as they say. 
Aspiration is there though. The only attribution that seemed to fit was with the 'Jesus', but not from how my churches taught me however, there was crushing sense of void from there from my experiences.
Thank you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997
Yeah, the "void" was yourself, being that you of course were NOTHING in the equation with "jesus" being EVERYTHING. Such is a VERY nastily contrived spirit growth stunter/confuser. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:44 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
just shoot me
i have suffered enough
this game is endless and repetitive
I know how you feel, and yeah, all of this is repetitive like the spinning of a washing machine. However, the benefit to the many is outweighing the discomfort of the few.
The "hold" remains until the maximum benefit of the "win" for the Children of God is realized.
We're all suffering, just hang on man.
thanks.
the older i get, the more i can't take this cycle anymore.
seems like when i let my inner glow shine, life comes along to try and put out my fire.
i hate it.
physicality comes with aging.....
i hate the battle part.
i want to be on the sidelines so bad.
i know my life is special.
we all are....
america is so materialistic.
and wasteful of everything precious.
i feel like tinkerbell.
but, i am spacie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708871
I hear ya, it's a tough ride to be sure. That's why you signed up. 
<------ A very manly hug if you're a guy.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 682487 6/22/2009 3:47 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
There is Only One True God The Creator The Eternal Self Existence ONE.
There is A Plane of Existence Outside of this Universe Space Time Continuum.
Where God and His Children Live.
And Yes it IS The Very Same God of the Bible When Understood By the Holy Spirt.

Just ME.!.
The so called "god" of the Bible is Yahweh/Set/Lucifer/Jesus, the "vengeful" "spiteful" "hateful" little man of the fall.
And as well, the "spirit" of Lucifer/Set/Jesus will indeed "lead" you to the supposed "truth" of that deception.
The Creator is NOTHING like any of the above as the "god" you're worshiping and groveling before is no more a God than I am. Quoting: Saxon (777) i can go with that..but my burning question is why doesn't the REAL GOD stop the wankery? alot of people can't help it that they aren't the brightest bulb in the display and are deceived. in essence, to me it is a game that goes all the way to the top, i feel like i'm watching a cosmic version of the jerry springer show. i am totally irreverant. |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:47 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
dang.
sorry about my thread drift.
just got back from putting my car in the shop.
i walked back home, and bumped into several neighbors...
i think that is why we are here......
to just BE and mingle with each other.
we are all so different.
one part of me, gets depressed, while another part of me...picks me up and puts me back on track.
i truly believe god/creator, does not want us to suffer.
our source delights when we are full of joy.
spacie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708941
Believe it or not, you came here WANTING to suffer. Suffering drives spirit changes that CANNOT be realized "out there". The trick of course is to balance suffering and not suffering etc as biting off more than one can chew can be VERY detrimental to ones spirit.
Think of yourself as a mighty football player on the field and the heavenly host on your family side rooting for your success. Much of the "great plays" in the game are related to your suffering. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 708206 6/22/2009 3:50 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Genius Saxon cannot refute:
Bible Truth- irrefutable prophecy
The Precision of Prophecy
Daniel’s 70 Weeks
by Chuck Missler
Irrefutably Documented
To fully appreciate the remarkable significance of the following article, it is essential to realize that the Book of Daniel, as part of the Old Testament, was translated into Greek prior to 270 B.C., almost three centuries before Christ was born. This is a well-established fact of secular history.1
The Septuagint
After his conquest of the Babylonian Empire, Alexander the Great promoted the Greek language throughout the known world, and thus almost everyone - including the Jews - spoke Greek. Hebrew fell into disuse, being reserved primarily for ceremonial purposes (somewhat analogous to the use of Latin among Roman Catholics).
In order to make the Jewish Scriptures (what we call the Old Testament) available to the average Jewish reader, a project was undertaken under the sponsorship of Ptolemy II Philadelphus (285-246 B.C.) to translate the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek. Seventy scholars were commissioned to complete this work and their result is known as the "Septuagint" ("70") translation. (This is often abbreviated "LXX" and is so shown on the diagram.)
The Book of Daniel is actually one of the most authenticated books of the Old Testament, historically and archaeologically, but this is a convenient shortcut for our purposes here. It is critical to realize that the Book of Daniel existed in documented form almost three centuries before Christ was born.
Gabriel's Zinger
Daniel, originally deported as a teenager (now near the end of the Babylonian captivity), was reading in the Book of Jeremiah. He understood that the seventy years of servitude were almost over and he began to pray for his people.
The Angel Gabriel interrupted Daniel's prayer and gave him a four-verse prophecy that is unquestionably the most remarkable passage in the entire Bible: Daniel 9:24-27.
These four verses include the following segments:
9:24 The Scope of the Entire Prophecy;
9:25 The 69 Weeks;
9:26 An Interval between the 69th and 70th Week;
9:27 The 70th Week.
The Scope (Dan 9:24)
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy Place .
Daniel 9:24
The idiom of a "week" of years was common in Israel as a "sabbath for the land," in which the land was to lie fallow every seventh year.2 It was their failure to obey these laws that led to God sending them into captivity under the Babylonians.3
Note that the focus of this passage is upon "thy people and upon thy holy city," that is, upon Israel and Jerusalem. (It is not directed to the Church.)
The scope of this prophecy includes a broad list of things which clearly have yet to be completed.
The First 69 Weeks (Dan 9:25)
A very specific prediction occurs in verse 25:
Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
Daniel 9:25
This includes a mathematical prophecy. As we have noted in previous articles, the Jewish (and Babylonian) calendars used a 360-day year;4 69 weeks of 360-day years totals 173,880 days. In effect, Gabriel told Daniel that the interval between the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem until the presentation of the Messiah as King would be 173,880 days.
The "Messiah the Prince" in the King James translation is actually the Meshiach Nagid, "The Messiah the King." (Nagid is first used of King Saul.)
Bull's-Eye!
The commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus on March 14, 445 B.C.5 (The emphasis in the verse on "the street" and "the wall" was to avoid confusion with other earlier mandates confined to rebuilding the Temple.)
During the ministry of Jesus Christ there were several occasions in which the people attempted to promote Him as king, but He carefully avoided it: "Mine hour is not yet come".6
The Triumphal Entry
Then, one day, He meticulously arranges it.7 On this particular day he rode into the city of Jerusalem riding on a donkey, deliberately fulfilling a prophecy by Zechariah that the Messiah would present Himself as king in just that way:
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Zechariah 9:9
Whenever we might easily miss the significance of what was going on, the Pharisees come to our rescue. They felt that the overzealous crowd was blaspheming, proclaiming Jesus as the Messiah the King.8 However, Jesus endorsed it!
I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Luke 19:40
This is the only occasion that Jesus presented Himself as King. It occurred on April 6, 32 A.D.9
The Precision of Prophecy
When we examine the period between March 14, 445 B.C. and April 6, 32 A.D., and correct for leap years, we discover that it is 173,880 days exactly, to the very day!
How could Daniel have known this in advance? How could anyone have contrived to have this detailed prediction documented over three centuries in advance? But there's more.
The Interval (Dan 9:26)
There appears to be a gap between the 69th week (verse 25) and the 70th week (verse 27):
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Daniel 9:26
The sixty-two "weeks" follow the initial seven, so verse 26 deals with events after 69th week, but before the 70th. These events include the Messiah being killed and the city and sanctuary being destroyed.
As Jesus approached the city on the donkey, He also predicted the destruction of Jerusalem:
For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.
Luke 19:43-44
The Messiah was, of course, executed at the Crucifixion..."but not for Himself."
The city and the sanctuary were destroyed 38 years later when the Roman legions under Titus Vespasian leveled the city of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, precisely as Daniel and Jesus had predicted. In fact, as one carefully examines Jesus' specific words, it appears that He held them accountable to know this astonishing prophecy in Daniel 9! "Because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation."
The 70th Week
There is a remaining seven-year period to be fulfilled. This period is the most documented period in the entire Bible. The Book of Revelation, Chapters 6 through 19, is essentially a detailing of that climactic period.
The interval between the 69th and 70th week continues, but it is increasingly apparent that it may soon be over.
The more one is familiar with the numerous climactic themes of "end-time" prophecy, the more it seems that Daniel's 70th Week is on our horizon.
Have you done your homework? Are you and your family prepared?
--NOTES
1. Encyclopedia Britannica , Volume 10, p. 642.
2. Leviticus 25:1-22; 26:3-35; Deuteronomy 15.
3. 2 Chronicles 36:20-21.
4. Genesis 7:24; 8:3,4; Revelation 11:2; 12:6; 13:3,4; etc.
5. First identified in Sir Robert Anderson's classic work, The Coming Prince, published originally in 1894. Now available in any Christian bookstore.
6. John 6:15. Always in control: John 7:30, 44; 8:59; 10:39.
7. Luke 19:28-40.
8. Luke 19:39.
9. Luke 3:1: Tiberias appointed in A.D. 14; 15th year, A.D. 29; the 4th Passover occurred in A.D. 32. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 708206 6/22/2009 3:51 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Why can't you deal with facts and substance self-exalted genius? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 708206 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 704532 6/22/2009 3:51 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
How about Hard Truth?
Maybe he can help you too?
Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?
Or not.
Genius.
Why should I waist time debating dishonest christians?
You and I both know there can be no proof of prophecies when text are altered and/or based solely on he said she said testimonies written after the so called facts!
You lack any insight into the divine, let alone have the ability of stand alone thought!!
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! Quoting: HardTruth
Well OK then. But if you find yourself one day having to receive a mark to buy food and publicly renounce Saxonism (or whatever your beliefs are) and worship the anti-Christ......or else have your head cut off.....will you then finally admit that prophecy from the Scriptures is correct? |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:52 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Can you or anyone tell us all what the Creator looks like? Quoting: little star 687974
Kind of like a living geyser of intense fire and light with the most amazing face, BOTH Male and Female. That IS how "they" present to "thier/its" creation. That's the reason not just anyone can physically walk into their presence.
The Essenes did a reasonable job of describing them here:
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:52 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.. Quoting: little star 687974
Indeed it shall.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| HardTruth  User ID: 709019 6/22/2009 3:54 PM
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How about Hard Truth?
Maybe he can help you too?
Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?
Or not.
Genius.
Why should I waist time debating dishonest christians?
You and I both know there can be no proof of prophecies when text are altered and/or based solely on he said she said testimonies written after the so called facts!
You lack any insight into the divine, let alone have the ability of stand alone thought!!
___________
If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Well OK then. But if you find yourself one day having to receive a mark to buy food and publicly renounce Saxonism (or whatever your beliefs are) and worship the anti-Christ......or else have your head cut off.....will you then finally admit that prophecy from the Scriptures is correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704532
With all due respect it's not, or ever was divine prophecy!!
It is a blueprint for restoring what once was!!
Poseidon, King Of Atlantis: Remaking The NWO!! Connecting The Dots!!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!! |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:56 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
What is the "tree of life" ? Quoting: little star 687974
The Tree of Life is another symbol used to define the 7 pathways between Mother Earth and Father Heaven. The Essenes here show that link:
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
In short, the Tree of Life is the "School Program" for the School of Mother Earth. The ultimate goal of such is the development of the Heart platform and the Real Love capacity and then the final union of the Twin Flame pair. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 3:58 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Who are the Kenites that you speak of Saxon?
Are they good guys or bad guys? Quoting: little star 687974
Kenites are the generations of Cain, the first son of Lucifer via "Eve". That may directly attach to Sargon the Magnificent in Ancient Sumeria, but such is hard to totally know.
They tend to be "bad guys" as they generally get "schooled" early on in the raping and pillaging of the "inferior". Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 4:04 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
The Creator is NOTHING like any of the above as the "god" you're worshiping and groveling before is no more a God than I am.
i can go with that..but my burning question is why doesn't the REAL GOD stop the wankery? alot of people can't help it that they aren't the brightest bulb in the display and are deceived. in essence, to me it is a game that goes all the way to the top, i feel like i'm watching a cosmic version of the jerry springer show. i am totally irreverant. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682487
Our Creator is constrained by free will to allow Their children to develop what is needed to put an eternal end to the immortal Jerry Springer show from hell. Those soon replacing the higher ups who rebelled (the Supplanters) know the devices of the rebellion WELL, and due such will NEVER fall prey to such methods again. The rebellion was a top down problem and HAD to be fixed from the top down. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 441472 6/22/2009 4:05 PM | | Anonymous Coward User ID: 682487 6/22/2009 4:06 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | how do you know this stuff saxon? |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 4:07 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Well OK then. But if you find yourself one day having to receive a mark to buy food and publicly renounce Saxonism (or whatever your beliefs are) and worship the anti-Christ......or else have your head cut off.....will you then finally admit that prophecy from the Scriptures is correct? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 704532
The completion of Lucifer/Set's plans to his own book is HARDLY "prophecy". That's just "good planning" in those circles.
However, none of that is coming to pass. We're all essentially waiting for that group to make their "big move", at which time they will get "yanked".
 Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709144 6/22/2009 4:10 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
dang.
sorry about my thread drift.
just got back from putting my car in the shop.
i walked back home, and bumped into several neighbors...
i think that is why we are here......
to just BE and mingle with each other.
we are all so different.
one part of me, gets depressed, while another part of me...picks me up and puts me back on track.
i truly believe god/creator, does not want us to suffer.
our source delights when we are full of joy.
spacie.
Believe it or not, you came here WANTING to suffer. Suffering drives spirit changes that CANNOT be realized "out there". The trick of course is to balance suffering and not suffering etc as biting off more than one can chew can be VERY detrimental to ones spirit.
Think of yourself as a mighty football player on the field and the heavenly host on your family side rooting for your success. Much of the "great plays" in the game are related to your suffering. Quoting: Saxon (777)
no.
i have learned, though, that i have chiron rising...
just a hair above my ascendant in the 12th house.
i have also learned, from a past life reader, that i jumped at the chance to return here pronto.
i was a native american male, my last life.
might explain why i could ride any horse and always bareback.
so, here i am.
i wanted to be a mom.
i managed to have 3 wonderful children.
no.
i do not like to focus on suffering.
one of the keys to healing, is to select more life experience that is good for the soul.
this world seems to be under control of those that will take your energy and give you little in return.
that is what is frustrating.
i came here to help with the change.
whatever that means.
thanks for your insight.
spacie. |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/22/2009 4:13 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
how do you know this stuff saxon? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 682487
In some ways, that's a good question, because it certainly isn't just from reading the accounts of others.
So, I'll have to say that what I know is an integrated picture put together from the writings of others, especially the ancient Hebrew (which when properly translated is as advertised, the Word of God. But it's hard to say just how much of it is indeed that, as it's been corrupted over the years too).
So, put all the ingredients into the alchemical cauldron, ancient writings, modern writings, dreams of MANY people (not just my own, all dreams tied together), visions and what seems to be a bit of "channeling" on my part of the "rest" of me, aka, my "over-soul" and VOILA!!!!......the Kingdom picture.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 682487 6/22/2009 4:15 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | it is true about the bible, really is crafty and diabolical. the problem is, there is some truth in it, especially in revelation. it's really gotten on my nerves, between trying to ferret out the lies and penetrate the symbolisms that mask the truths..i have gotten the basic picture by studying on various legends, etc., but at this point, it would really be nice to run across something straight up. WHY all the mystery anyway?? i am so fed up... |
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