Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

how do you know this stuff saxon?


In some ways, that's a good question, because it certainly isn't just from reading the accounts of others.

So, I'll have to say that what I know is an integrated picture put together from the writings of others, especially the ancient Hebrew (which when properly translated is as advertised, the Word of God. But it's hard to say just how much of it is indeed that, as it's been corrupted over the years too).

So, put all the ingredients into the alchemical cauldron, ancient writings, modern writings, dreams of MANY people (not just my own, all dreams tied together), visions and what seems to be a bit of "channeling" on my part of the "rest" of me, aka, my "over-soul" and VOILA!!!!......the Kingdom picture.

Who are the Kenites that you speak of Saxon?
Are they good guys or bad guys?


Kenites are the generations of Cain, the first son of Lucifer via "Eve". That may directly attach to Sargon the Magnificent in Ancient Sumeria, but such is hard to totally know.

They tend to be "bad guys" as they generally get "schooled" early on in the raping and pillaging of the "inferior".

How about Hard Truth?

Maybe he can help you too?

Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?

Or not.

Genius.


Why should I waist time debating dishonest christians?

You and I both know there can be no proof of prophecies when text are altered and/or based solely on he said she said testimonies written after the so called facts!

You lack any insight into the divine, let alone have the ability of stand alone thought!!

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Well OK then. But if you find yourself one day having to receive a mark to buy food and publicly renounce Saxonism (or whatever your beliefs are) and worship the anti-Christ......or else have your head cut off.....will you then finally admit that prophecy from the Scriptures is correct?



With all due respect it's not, or ever was divine prophecy!!

It is a blueprint for restoring what once was!!

Poseidon, King Of Atlantis: Remaking The NWO!! Connecting The Dots!!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!

How about Hard Truth?

Maybe he can help you too?

Maybe your little genius God-haters self-exalters club can brainstorm this together?

Or not.

Genius.


Why should I waist time debating dishonest christians?

You and I both know there can be no proof of prophecies when text are altered and/or based solely on he said she said testimonies written after the so called facts!

You lack any insight into the divine, let alone have the ability of stand alone thought!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!


Well OK then. But if you find yourself one day having to receive a mark to buy food and publicly renounce Saxonism (or whatever your beliefs are) and worship the anti-Christ......or else have your head cut off.....will you then finally admit that prophecy from the Scriptures is correct?



With all due respect it's not, or ever was divine prophecy!!

It is a blueprint for restoring what once was!!

Poseidon, King Of Atlantis: Remaking The NWO!! Connecting The Dots!!
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
"With all due respect?" Yesterday I was "idiot." King of Atlantis? This is very creative and I hear similar things with some of the clients that I work with. In any case, I am here on a special mission. My King and Lord has instructed me to do the following, as you are an enemy: love you, bless you, do good to you and pray for you (Matthew 5: 44). Of course, I will need His help with these things. Anyway, I have prayed that He grab you, shake you, and that the fear of the Lord would come upon you....to bring you to your senses. You can curse me or insult me if you want, but these things are only done out of concern for a person's soul. Anyway, if some major things start happening to you in the future that bring you to your knees, you will know that God has been kind and responded to my prayer. Have a nice week.

Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer


Well, that's an easy one. The Old Testament ‘God’ called Jehovah/Yahweh was thought by the Ancient Gnostics to be a deceptive Archon Alien off-planet Demon ‘War God’ and that he was a fake God and that ‘He’ was a masquerading Archon duplicating Reality trying to convince us that ‘He’ was the big kahuna. Now remember that the Gnostics believed in God, the ‘One True God’ they labeled ‘Him’ as also did Jesus define his belief as being of the ‘One True God’; most likely a lot of the stories of Jesus are actually re-hashed Gnostic myths about a possible rebellion against the Archons in which they came down very severely upon the rebels; so, the Archons were released somehow from a prison, and this is probably what the Book of Enoch is talking about where he says he took the Demons and locked them in a box but that they would come back at the End of Time.



John records Jesus describing the Devil as “the prince of this world” (12:31, 14:30). Jesus said,

“You are the children of your father, the Devil, and you want to follow your father’s desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies.” (John 8: 44)

John 8:44 You [Jewish leaders] belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

John 8:44 It is written, YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE, HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN: FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT.


The Children of the Devil
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The Claims of Jesus About Himself
48The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
49"I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. 50I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death."
52At this the Jews exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that if anyone keeps your word, he will never taste death. 53Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
54Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
57"You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"
58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.


I fail to see how any of this addresses suffering here.

But, whatever, the fall of the Watchers is not primarily the reason for suffering here either.



Well, I think I was trying to re-make the point ole Jesus was making, that being that most of those that think they are worshiping the ‘One True God’ that resides in the ‘Happy Fairy Magic Land of Rainbows and Unicorns and Ultimate Goodiness’ have either been fooled/tricked into worshipping a false War ‘God’ and/or openly revel in their worship of a false War ‘God’ such as John 8:44 etc. describes, and you are what you eat, so to speak…

Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer


Well, that's an easy one. The Old Testament ‘God’ called Jehovah/Yahweh was thought by the Ancient Gnostics to be a deceptive Archon Alien off-planet Demon ‘War God’ and that he was a fake God and that ‘He’ was a masquerading Archon duplicating Reality trying to convince us that ‘He’ was the big kahuna. Now remember that the Gnostics believed in God, the ‘One True God’ they labeled ‘Him’ as also did Jesus define his belief as being of the ‘One True God’; most likely a lot of the stories of Jesus are actually re-hashed Gnostic myths about a possible rebellion against the Archons in which they came down very severely upon the rebels; so, the Archons were released somehow from a prison, and this is probably what the Book of Enoch is talking about where he says he took the Demons and locked them in a box but that they would come back at the End of Time.



John records Jesus describing the Devil as “the prince of this world” (12:31, 14:30). Jesus said,

“You are the children of your father, the Devil, and you want to follow your father’s desires. From the very beginning he was a murderer and has never been on the side of truth, because there is no truth in him. When he tells a lie, he is only doing what is natural to him, because he is a liar and the father of all lies.” (John 8: 44)

John 8:44 You [Jewish leaders] belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

John 8:44 It is written, YE ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE, HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN: FOR HE IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT.


The Children of the Devil
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

The Claims of Jesus About Himself
48The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
49"I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor me. 50I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. 51I tell you the truth, if anyone keeps my word, he will never see death."
52At this the Jews exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that if anyone keeps your word, he will never taste death. 53Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
54Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. 55Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
57"You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!"
58"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" 59At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.


I fail to see how any of this addresses suffering here.

But, whatever, the fall of the Watchers is not primarily the reason for suffering here either.



Well, I think I was trying to re-make the point ole Jesus was making, that being that most of those that think they are worshiping the ‘One True God’ that resides in the ‘Happy Fairy Magic Land of Rainbows and Unicorns and Ultimate Goodiness’ have either been fooled/tricked into worshipping a false War ‘God’ and/or openly revel in their worship of a false War ‘God’ such as John 8:44 etc. describes, and you are what you eat, so to speak…

Here is part of what I was looking for. You did not answer this persons question.. on John 8:44...

If Jesus is talking to Kenites there, which he was, and they are the ones that put him on the cross, how can Satan have his own children put him on the cross. YOu satan Jesus is Satan the bad boy. So now I am confused.
If the Kenites are the seed of Satan, and they are, why would they put their dad on the cross?
Did you know Saxon that in the manuscripts when it talks about Eve giving birth to Cain an Able that it states that Eve continued in labor giving birth to twins children, one being in one water sack and the other one in another water sack?
If Cain is the first murderer, as it is written in John 8:44 and Jesus is accusing those folks there that they are the offspring of the Devil, how can that be Saxon?
You need to clear this up for us, because what you have posted is a counter diction of what you posted. I am asking this not to stump you, but to get a clear view of what you are saying.. Thanks.
I am still looking in the thread trying to find the right verse's you posted about how the Big J kills folks for no reason.

same here. but it's not driving you mad like it is me. i read what you write and pretty much agree with it, some things you don't know, or maybe would even suspect. i wish you knew them so i could have some one to talk to about it.

same here. but it's not driving you mad like it is me. i read what you write and pretty much agree with it, some things you don't know, or maybe would even suspect. i wish you knew them so i could have some one to talk to about it.



Well feel free to share. Who knows, maybe I know more about that certain aspect than you might have guessed.

Thanks for bringing that forward..
In one of your earlier response's you stated that Yaweh was and evil God that killed and you gave a the names of the tribes. Some of them being Hittites and etc.

I agree that the Kenites are the seed of Satan, and I also know it says in 1 Chronicles 2:55 that there are more names given other than what you posted that are called Kenites.

Now what I am puzzled about is that you condemned the God mentioned in the bible that told the folks to kill those tribes. So I am kind of mixed up what you are trying to share of who is the good guys and who are the bad guys..
I will go back and read your words, I just did not do that before I posted this of what names you gave, so bare with me...

Man I hate my dyslexic thinking brain.. I mis-spelled a word "counradict"... Geeish...

...about jesus, i don't trust that whole thing. yet there he is in revelation. i'm so confused..but it seems to me he is the one who deceives so many, and they worship him, in rev13. i mean who else do so many worship? what do you think?

"With all due respect?" Yesterday I was "idiot." King of Atlantis? This is very creative and I hear similar things with some of the clients that I work with. In any case, I am here on a special mission. My King and Lord has instructed me to do the following, as you are an enemy: love you, bless you, do good to you and pray for you (Matthew 5: 44). Of course, I will need His help with these things. Anyway, I have prayed that He grab you, shake you, and that the fear of the Lord would come upon you....to bring you to your senses. You can curse me or insult me if you want, but these things are only done out of concern for a person's soul. Anyway, if some major things start happening to you in the future that bring you to your knees, you will know that God has been kind and responded to my prayer. Have a nice week.

...about jesus, i don't trust that whole thing. yet there he is in revelation. i'm so confused..but it seems to me he is the one who deceives so many, and they worship him, in rev13. i mean who else do so many worship? what do you think?


The "One" would never desire anyone to bow and worship him as he is much like our Creator in that regard. So that is a good hint as to the identity of the person in the picture. Typically revelation was twisted to suit the storyline of the hoped to be "winning" Lucifer camp.

Did you read the Essene Book of Revelation? It's posted in the spiritual section of our site.

[link to z14.invisionfree.com]

Here is part of what I was looking for. You did not answer this persons question.. on John 8:44...

If Jesus is talking to Kenites there, which he was, and they are the ones that put him on the cross, how can Satan have his own children put him on the cross. YOu satan Jesus is Satan the bad boy. So now I am confused.

If the Kenites are the seed of Satan, and they are, why would they put their dad on the cross?

Did you know Saxon that in the manuscripts when it talks about Eve giving birth to Cain an Able that it states that Eve continued in labor giving birth to twins children, one being in one water sack and the other one in another water sack?

If Cain is the first murderer, as it is written in John 8:44 and Jesus is accusing those folks there that they are the offspring of the Devil, how can that be Saxon?

You need to clear this up for us, because what you have posted is a counter diction of what you posted. I am asking this not to stump you, but to get a clear view of what you are saying.. Thanks.
I am still looking in the thread trying to find the right verse's you posted about how the Big J kills folks for no reason.

same here. but it's not driving you mad like it is me. i read what you write and pretty much agree with it, some things you don't know, or maybe would even suspect. i wish you knew them so i could have some one to talk to about it.



Well feel free to share. Who knows, maybe I know more about that certain aspect than you might have guessed.
i've not seen you speak of the aspect..yet i see it, but it seems symbolic to me. hard to explain. you are out there in the cosmos, and i am earthbound for now, mentally as well. it is prob. a mistake for me to even say anything, but the isolation is getting to me..and of all the people here, you seem closest to home. i'm fk'd up man.

and there is only so much i can say in this forum. and it is hard to even frame the questions i can ask..like, the war, it is almost over isn't it? there's so much going on right now. it really has me on edge.

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The reign of the Goddess was the very first swing of the pendulum. The whole Hermit meme is about utilizing the more Male sided "logic" to break that grip. And, of course, once that grip is broken, the pendulum swings wildly the other way.

Women naturally step into male positions if need be to seek the support of their children. They don't particularly care to do such, but adapt so such nonetheless.

In the days of rampant spirit immaturity, the reign of bitterness drove MUCH craziness.

and the jesus thing is disturbing. i need to be certain just who he is. i'm very suspicious, but in this game, it is so hard to be certain.

Our Creator does NOT allow suffering here. WE DO!

If the top 10% spiritually on this planet would WAKE UP and realize that everything can and will change, one way or the other, this would be a whole different place in no time at all.

But go ahead and continue working at high paying jobs (your money will all be worthless soon), paying your mortgages (going to be wrecked probably), making your car payments (like how your car looks really matters), and, most important of all, saving for your retirement that is not going to happen (one way or another).

That is right, do ANYTHING but wake up and insist that things must change on this planet.

The top 10% can pull up the 80% in the middle (mostly sheeple) and force the bottom 10% to reincarnate elsewhere.

The pole shift and the Transformation are going to make those things happen, but is not because God has decreed it. He is continuing to obey his own laws and not intefere with our free will. That is all.

whew, that esscene revelation thing is heavy. haven't read it all, but i get the drift i think. man, the kjv of rev is a sabotauge. i knew for sure there was truth in it, but the lies have been driving me mad. there are great forces against the mother, the female. i'm stunned at the lengths they have gone to to destroy her.

And a terrible pain seized me
As I felt within me the souls of all those
Who had blinded themselves,
So as to see only their own desires of the flesh.

(it seems this is where i am at now, like all the insanity of the world is in my face, it's bad, very bad. thanks for sending me there saxon, it is helping alot)

Is this a case of the lady missin her man, and her fellow coming back for her in a sense?


Yes it is. At the time of the call home, she was hanging out on Venus (surprise surprise ) with her usual groupie naked men "worshippers" flooding her house. She was very weary of the whole mess.



Can you share more in the nature of the battle where the "last boss in Zelda" lost? When did this happen, is it related to the ages like when the 'gods' walked the earth openly past? Like the age of pisces? what did that age symbolize?

Thank you.



The battle was over 7/31/2007 with the completion of the Bridge of Love.

That's when the "losers" went totally berserk, doing anything they could, "cheating" be damned, (cheating is over riding the "game" agreements made prior to the start of the challenge) hoping to turn their loss around. That's the reason they detonated 3 bridges across America the very next day 8/1/2007, hoping to rumble the spiritual realm with the "sacrifices".

By the time October of 2007 rolled around, the Blue Kachina(comet Holmes)was seen in full to announce the successful completion of the mission. Shortly thereafter, the spiritual power of the Earth totally shifted and made MANY go totally off the deep end in regard to their spirits.

Pisces was about "fishing" for men to support the rebellion, when the kingdom of Lucifer went into "high gear".

The "Achilles Heel" of the rebellion has always been the future maturing of the group being "worked" by the "con men" of the effort. Their purposely targeting of Venus was too the beginning of their demise, as her Heart is a VERY powerful aspect of her, thereby making simply putting her with yet another guy just not "doable". So, somewhere down the road, her desire to go home to her husband was going to overwhelm the efforts of those looking to keep her there. And since she was SO venerated by SO many women of the fallen, her example was going totally devastate the ranks of the fallen.

The example of REAL Love, Love which overcomes all the hurts and grievances of the past, thereby again extending the Heart of those in reconciliation, is THE vanguard of the Age of Aquarius. Such is seen clearly in the Jim Henson muppet movie, "The Dark Crystal", where the division of the Light and the Darkness transmutes both to once again unite and thereby "synergize" something much more than the original.