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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709696 6/23/2009 10:52 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
read 'earth-moon entity speaks'
out of print, 1998.
the story of the divine feminine, earth.
and her lover, creator/source.
micro of the macro for sure.
spacie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709769 i'd like to, dunno where to find it tho. here is where i am stuck at...where did this female come from? the creators mind, of course. so this is an internal conflict. creator seems flawed in that it cannot accept Its flaw, keeps trying to say that ain't me, its HER! everything that comes after, all the eons and dramas are superfulous. it's still the same problem. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709871 6/23/2009 12:37 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | try at used book stores.
it is called "the earth-moon entity speaks"
received messages by natalia anna stansova.
american literary press.
i don't get so caught up in the male/female struggle.
i was told i am 70% male energy....with most of my previous lives as a male.
this time, i wanted to be female !
and there is the other option, of being gay.
male, female, gay.
so many perspectives !
earth moon entity gives a view that the source is so far removed from out little planet...
we are out on our own...
earth has called out for Him....only to recieve the false light/darkOne who only brings pain.
an interesting little book.
i have read it now 4 times !
spacie.
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 1:40 PM | | Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 1:43 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Hi Saxon
The "reign of bitterness", was the bitterness from the "rejection" and "hate orgies" afterwards of a scorned 'divine feminine'?
Pretty much. Once these long time relationships started to break apart, the repercussions were much like one sees here when relationships break apart due to infidelity. "Grudge fucking" was rampant and the fabric of that society tearing at a very rapid pace.
Can you tell me more about the "Hermit" aspect? Is that like a wise, but solitary due to rarity, of 'peak maleness' in action? What was that all about?
Thank you
The Hermit aspect is reactionary to the destruction of relationships. Once the males have so been wronged, they set about a period of time contemplating their next "move" and how to seek revenge.
tis true, tho i wanted to think we were all above that. the romance drama thrown into this thing has been disturbing.
The romance drama was THE initial wall buster that initiated the rebellion. Everything else actually originates from that source.
i was afraid of that. we have a real jerry springer moment going on here...i don't know whether to flee or try to find out more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
A VERY VERY VERY Jerry Springer immortal realm moment. The angst, grievances and hurt of the AGES is now equalizing across the gap of the severed Mountain.
You can run, but you cannot hide.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 1:52 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
They do. And sometimes these family lines have defectors that have to be "dealt with". They believe themselves to be sidestepping karmic laws by laying the Truth out there under everyone's noses in code. They also have/had a reincarnational system called "The Tree of Darkness" which appears to be founded in Sexual Ritual Magik, thereby sidestepping the karmic whiplash.
^^^^i know this thing, i call them true lies. and He also showed me how to transfer power via sexual energy. it is peculiar to me to see the things i think of in my simple little paradigms, put forth as you do.
I believe I covered that topic here:
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The Key to the Pyramid of Rennes Le Chateau, located in Languedoc, France
One of those pictures shows the underground river believed to be used by them for that purpose. I think I covered that in the thread.
once again, women are the bad guys. wonder why they rebelled? could it have been the men were cold and tyrannical? not saying the rebellion was honorable, but happy wives stay home, ya know? and nothing is any better now, it's prob. worse. they should have just risen above it and mercy killed the females instead of all this torture. they can all turn gay now for all i care. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
Women aren't the "bad guys", they are the ULTIMATE target when looking to breach the "wall" of Heaven. We saw the same tactics used here in the US to breach a similar societal wall. First came the "free sex" of the 60s, mostly aimed at the husbands, flooding the married husband life with LOTS of "free sex" from females around them.
Then came the oooooshy goooooshy "love" 70's where the women were harloted out to whoredoms and the horse of social implosion was OFF AND RUNNING. Once the momentum picks up, it cannot be stopped as is easily seen around us today. The men hypocritically responded with indignation that their wives had fucked other men and instantly rejected them, thereby forcing their wives to steal the husband of another and another and another. The domino affect.
The very homes of these families were targeted, so it didn't matter where the wives "stayed". The immortals cannot be killed. There is no such thing as "spiritual death" regardless how much the religious ignorant push that nonsense.
So, the ONLY "fix" to all of this is FORGIVENESS along with the required REPENTANCE between these husbands and wives. Such is the age of Aquarius.
Here's a very cool video which goes along with this:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 1:56 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Yup, she sure did, or at least in this galaxy. They had Isis down and out for a long long time.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
your concepts about the current situation of her confuses me.
That's not current, that happened to her LONG LONG ago. She's MUCH better these days.
how can you be sure about that? i mean the whole thing is still unresolved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
The whole story has completed. Isis has been "married" to her new husband, and Venus returned to her husband as well.
It's a wrap, hence what's going on with the world right now.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 2:06 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
there are details both of us are unaware of. but it seems we are on the same page with the basics. tho i spose you will be more sympathetic to the males, and i with the females. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
I am "the servant of the water", the water being the Divine Feminine. I am sympathetic to the Hearts of BOTH and the reconciliation of BOTH. The "Arrow Shot" is all about that fact.
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and there ya have it..maybe is why is all on hold, it seems unresolvable to me at this point. no one seems able to give in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
It's all on hold due the extreme success of the effort. The "fruit" of the event is still rolling in in a REALLY BIG way. The "giving in" is NOT about the people incarnate currently, but rather those unseen "out there".
and logic says the creator is fighting Its own self..the female side rebels, but is still part of the unit, therefore God has internal conflict. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
The Creator has never fought "itself". However, that part of the Creator which is both the fallen and non-fallen has certainly been in conflict, something in the beginning stages of resolution now.
it is just being acted out on the physical realm. the male seems unable to look at His self and ask why the rebellion in the first place? what is this internal conflict? it's like he is beating his own self up. this thing is crazy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
The reasons to the rebellion are written above, BOTH sides are at fault and BOTH sides must OWN their shortcomings for the reconciliation to take place.
Have you ever been part of a divorce? Think of this as divorce of the eternals, where the "drama" is FAR FAR larger than here due the long term relationships. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 2:07 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
read 'earth-moon entity speaks'
out of print, 1998.
the story of the divine feminine, earth.
and her lover, creator/source.
micro of the macro for sure.
spacie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709769
I suspect that's pointing to Mother Earth and Father Heaven. That's the "macro" picture of our existence. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/23/2009 2:09 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
read 'earth-moon entity speaks'
out of print, 1998.
the story of the divine feminine, earth.
and her lover, creator/source.
micro of the macro for sure.
spacie.
i'd like to, dunno where to find it tho. here is where i am stuck at...where did this female come from? the creators mind, of course. so this is an internal conflict. creator seems flawed in that it cannot accept Its flaw, keeps trying to say that ain't me, its HER! everything that comes after, all the eons and dramas are superfulous. it's still the same problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
Our Creator doesn't need to GROW UP, WE DO. Our Creator grew up a LONG LONG time before any of us showed up on the scene. That's why we are all here. An immature twit, would never come up with such a beautiful platform for the living display of Real Love. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709871 6/23/2009 3:20 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
read 'earth-moon entity speaks'
out of print, 1998.
the story of the divine feminine, earth.
and her lover, creator/source.
micro of the macro for sure.
spacie.
I suspect that's pointing to Mother Earth and Father Heaven. That's the "macro" picture of our existence. Quoting: Saxon (777)
the story starts with how the earth essence came to Be.
natalia is/was, a slavic gypsy with Hungarian jewish ancestry.
her writing is unlike any other i have encountered.
she tells about the life of earth, before she cooled down/slowed down, to this 3d state.
earth used to be One with the Creator/Him.
they decided to split to be able to see?? each other.
but, in the pain of that split, a darkOne was formed who desires to overthrow Him.
the Creator is/has been very busy in creating and essentially, is/was? unaware of His Feminine being so far out !
gosh, there is so much to the book.
every time i read it, it is like i am reading it again 'new'.
she explains the guilt trip of sex.
she validates the existence of 'jesus'.
but, only in a very few paragraghs !
he came, he was of pure Light & he sincerely believed he could help raise mankind.
he was unprepared for just how much Darkness had entered man.
yet, he left his seed[?].
there is no index in the book.
i wish they would reprint it.
possibly, i am a fan of 1.
oh well !
i know my ancesters are of hungarian slavic descent.
maybe that is why the book touches my heart so.
spacie. |
| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/24/2009 12:41 AM | | [spacie] User ID: 710629 6/24/2009 11:49 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
you look kewl in your av, saxon ! |
| 69 User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 11:55 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | haha. i run and look back to see if he is chasing me. ;-), foolish woman, get vexed when he just sits there drinking his fine wines and smiling that all knowing smile. but, i have risen above the jerry springer moment(for now)...let the man point the finger at the female, who is his other half, inseperable, in truth. i know what he is doing with that..some one has to take the rap. i know a thing or 2 about psychology. and about rituals and gestures, i am woman enough to do it gracefully now. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 11:57 AM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | So, the ONLY "fix" to all of this is FORGIVENESS along with the required REPENTANCE between these husbands and wives. Such is the age of Aquarius.
^^i'll watch the vid later. but for now i have overcome my pettiness and pride, learned a blues song and it just kinda seemed to fix it. now i'm just back to barefoot and pregnant and cool with it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:00 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Yup, she sure did, or at least in this galaxy. They had Isis down and out for a long long time.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
your concepts about the current situation of her confuses me.
That's not current, that happened to her LONG LONG ago. She's MUCH better these days.
how can you be sure about that? i mean the whole thing is still unresolved.
The whole story has completed. Isis has been "married" to her new husband, and Venus returned to her husband as well.
It's a wrap, hence what's going on with the world right now.  Quoting: Saxon (777) ok...i think i kinda might see what you are talking about..i have a feeling we are operating on at least 2 dimensions, kinda the on earth as it is in heaven thing. been trying hard not to get too deep or involved here. just tryin to get by till the mothership gets here and extracts me from this..place. |
| 69 User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:04 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | my divorce was a teenage one, witless, heartless, and since then, i fled at the first sign of trouble, and have been chaste the past 8 yrs, so i really was in deep water about the romance dept. it's so long and complicated and surreal. but, i learned alot yesterday, in my simple way, i've resolved it. i really appreciate your big brotherly help, i wont forget it. |
| AF User ID: 331111 6/24/2009 12:07 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | Humanity allows it.
It's called free will, choices and independence.
How many TRUTH based souls have tried to prevent needless suffering?
Alas toooo many to mention that either get shot, clubed or drowned out by vain selfish ego driven heartless morons.
Imagination and fear is a curse apon the mind of humanity that only profound solid truth will vanquish. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:07 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
read 'earth-moon entity speaks'
out of print, 1998.
the story of the divine feminine, earth.
and her lover, creator/source.
micro of the macro for sure.
spacie.
i'd like to, dunno where to find it tho. here is where i am stuck at...where did this female come from? the creators mind, of course. so this is an internal conflict. creator seems flawed in that it cannot accept Its flaw, keeps trying to say that ain't me, its HER! everything that comes after, all the eons and dramas are superfulous. it's still the same problem.
Our Creator doesn't need to GROW UP, WE DO. Our Creator grew up a LONG LONG time before any of us showed up on the scene. That's why we are all here. An immature twit, would never come up with such a beautiful platform for the living display of Real Love. Quoting: Saxon (777) i know. because he has had to come down to my level to deal with the flesh, i have become in a rut and try to keep him here in this sordid mess. much time all the while i am a fishwife, i am looking at me and saying FISHWIFE!! but something perverse in me makes me go ahead and show my ass on natl tv. hahaha |
| 69 User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:12 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | thanks again saxon. i kinda needed someone to kindly hold up a mirror to me. i needed to make them final little adjustments. time is short now, and i'd hate to be caught with my soul looking like a bitter old hag. |
| And. User ID: 710656 6/24/2009 12:15 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | "You Aint Nothing But a Hound Dog"
Thats all You WILL Ever Be Saxon777...
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| 69 User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:17 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | going to post the song i learned yesterday. it was what really got thru to me. kept singing it to him, and i knew deep down he was the one who likely wrote it, for both of us. music can get thru to me when nothing else can. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:17 PM | | Anonymous Coward User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:18 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
"You Aint Nothing But a Hound Dog"
Thats all You WILL Ever Be Saxon777...
 Quoting: And. 710656 ...won't you be surprised!! and dismayed. |
| resolution69 User ID: 709696 6/24/2009 12:26 PM | | Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/24/2009 1:05 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
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you look kewl in your av, saxon ! Quoting: [spacie

Watch the armor!!  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/24/2009 1:07 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
haha. i run and look back to see if he is chasing me. ;-), foolish woman, get vexed when he just sits there drinking his fine wines and smiling that all knowing smile. but, i have risen above the jerry springer moment(for now)...let the man point the finger at the female, who is his other half, inseperable, in truth. i know what he is doing with that..some one has to take the rap. i know a thing or 2 about psychology. and about rituals and gestures, i am woman enough to do it gracefully now. Quoting: 69 709696
It's not about taking raps, but gracefully accepting one's own faults and the faults of your other. In so doing then can the hurts of both finally heal.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/24/2009 1:11 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
ok...i think i kinda might see what you are talking about..i have a feeling we are operating on at least 2 dimensions, kinda the on earth as it is in heaven thing. been trying hard not to get too deep or involved here. just tryin to get by till the mothership gets here and extracts me from this..place. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696
Yes, everything here is playing out in two distinct places, here and the immortal realms. My wife had a year long DAY series of visions which showed what was going on both in Heaven-Hades and Earth. They are TOTALLY connected.
"What is bound on Earth is bound in Heaven, what is loosed on Earth is loosed in Heaven".
What that is saying is that ALL Twin Flame Heart work is completed here for the purposes of Heaven. Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/24/2009 1:12 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
my divorce was a teenage one, witless, heartless, and since then, i fled at the first sign of trouble, and have been chaste the past 8 yrs, so i really was in deep water about the romance dept. it's so long and complicated and surreal. but, i learned alot yesterday, in my simple way, i've resolved it. i really appreciate your big brotherly help, i wont forget it. Quoting: 69 709696
You are most welcome.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| Saxon (777) User ID: 566252 6/24/2009 1:14 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote |
Humanity allows it.
It's called free will, choices and independence.
How many TRUTH based souls have tried to prevent needless suffering?
Alas toooo many to mention that either get shot, clubed or drowned out by vain selfish ego driven heartless morons.
Imagination and fear is a curse apon the mind of humanity that only profound solid truth will vanquish. Quoting: AF 331111
Yes, the imaginations and fear based lies of Lucifer et al must be vanquished with the solid Truth of our collective Reality in the Kingdom of our Creator.  Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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| aonomous beleaver User ID: 603629 6/24/2009 1:15 PM | | Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer | Quote | Because "WE"alow it!!! |
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