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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/24/2009 1:16 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

thanks again saxon. i kinda needed someone to kindly hold up a mirror to me. i needed to make them final little adjustments. time is short now, and i'd hate to be caught with my soul looking like a bitter old hag.
 Quoting: 69 709696


Funny you should say that. Both Isis and Venus saw their former selves in dreams, and that is exactly what they saw.

Here's to better times ahead. hf
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 709696
6/24/2009 1:20 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

thanks again saxon. i kinda needed someone to kindly hold up a mirror to me. i needed to make them final little adjustments. time is short now, and i'd hate to be caught with my soul looking like a bitter old hag.


Funny you should say that. Both Isis and Venus saw their former selves in dreams, and that is exactly what they saw.

Here's to better times ahead. hf
 Quoting: Saxon (777)
i've been saying "funny" things today i notice. you remarked on another thread i said just what some k-brain bible said about the atmosphere holding its breath. i admit i haven't read this thread, i just jumped right to the last page...i had assumed venus and isis were the same person...
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/24/2009 2:18 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

thanks again saxon. i kinda needed someone to kindly hold up a mirror to me. i needed to make them final little adjustments. time is short now, and i'd hate to be caught with my soul looking like a bitter old hag.


Funny you should say that. Both Isis and Venus saw their former selves in dreams, and that is exactly what they saw.

Here's to better times ahead. hf
i've been saying "funny" things today i notice. you remarked on another thread i said just what some k-brain bible said about the atmosphere holding its breath. i admit i haven't read this thread, i just jumped right to the last page...i had assumed venus and isis were the same person...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 709696


Once upon a time, I did too. But, I came to find that Isis is the original galactic Mother of this 7th galaxy of the total 8 including the central galaxy.

Isis was run off by Lucifer et al when she changed her mind and "defected" from their rebellion. Her husband Osiris almost killed her.

Venus, her long time friend, estranged from her original husband Horus, then became the "Patron Goddess" of the rebellion. She's held that position for at least a few thousand years now. That's why all the things considered to be "evil" are surrounded in the "pentagram" etc. That was her "place" for a time as her husband Horus totally refused to have anything to do with her.

That's all changed now.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710941
6/25/2009 12:09 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

But, I came to find that Isis is the original galactic Mother of this 7th galaxy of the total 8 including the central galaxy.

Isis was run off by Lucifer et al when she changed her mind and "defected" from their rebellion. Her husband Osiris almost killed her.

Venus, her long time friend, estranged from her original husband Horus, then became the "Patron Goddess" of the rebellion. She's held that position for at least a few thousand years now. That's why all the things considered to be "evil" are surrounded in the "pentagram" etc. That was her "place" for a time as her husband Horus totally refused to have anything to do with her.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Okay.

But Jesus Christ of Nazareth
King of Kings
Lord of Lords
God With Us Emmanuel
My Lord and My God

is fiction?


I believe Jesus Christ. Not you.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/25/2009 12:31 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

But, I came to find that Isis is the original galactic Mother of this 7th galaxy of the total 8 including the central galaxy.

Isis was run off by Lucifer et al when she changed her mind and "defected" from their rebellion. Her husband Osiris almost killed her.

Venus, her long time friend, estranged from her original husband Horus, then became the "Patron Goddess" of the rebellion. She's held that position for at least a few thousand years now. That's why all the things considered to be "evil" are surrounded in the "pentagram" etc. That was her "place" for a time as her husband Horus totally refused to have anything to do with her.


Okay.

But Jesus Christ of Nazareth
King of Kings
Lord of Lords
God With Us Emmanuel
My Lord and My God

is fiction?


I believe Jesus Christ. Not you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941


Believe what you like. Either way, your beliefs mean NOTHING in the bigger picture of REAL Truth. You choose to believe a pack of Luciferian Jewish Mystic Occult Rabbis who penned your beloved Bible, and I DO NOT.

I, however, put in the TIME to retranslate the ancient Hebrew to discover the TRUTH.

Whatever, believe as you will, there are MANY to escort you down Lucifer's highway of Lies and deceit as you've already found.

The path to the TRUTH is traveled by the FEW and those with the COURAGE to do so, something you OBVIOUSLY LACK.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 707826
6/25/2009 12:46 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

the real answer is that humans and all other beings have freewill.
banana2
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710941
6/25/2009 12:55 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Believe what you like.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

Like didn't factor in for me. I only wanted the truth. That's really all I've ever wanted,
and not much more.

Either way, your beliefs mean NOTHING in the bigger picture of REAL Truth. You choose to believe a pack of Luciferian Jewish Mystic Occult Rabbis who penned your beloved Bible, and I DO NOT.
Whoa. What the hell?! (literally)
I disagree.
I believe my beliefs mean everything, everything to me. Everything. The only thing.


I, however, put in the TIME to retranslate the ancient Hebrew to discover the TRUTH.
I've got the wall of books right next to me. I've read it before all or in part somewhere sometime. I can look it up if need be.

Whatever, believe as you will, there are MANY to escort you down Lucifer's highway of Lies and deceit as you've already found.
Wow. What the hell again?
Let me get this straight...
You say that my believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth
is the evil, satanic, demomic, way of the devil?!?!
Do I have you correct?
Is that what you are really saying?

The path to the TRUTH is traveled by the FEW and those with the COURAGE to do so, something you OBVIOUSLY LACK.

Whoa... dude.

I bear you no ill will. I mean you no harm.
Yet you clearly would seem to hate me already
if you are, for some reason, capitalizing your insults to my courage?

Okay.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710941
6/25/2009 1:42 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Believe what you like.

>Like didn't factor in for me. I only wanted the truth. That's really all I've ever wanted,
and not much more.


Either way, your beliefs mean NOTHING in the bigger picture of REAL Truth. You choose to believe a pack of Luciferian Jewish Mystic Occult Rabbis who penned your beloved Bible, and I DO NOT.

>Whoa. What the hell?! (literally)
I disagree.
I believe my beliefs mean everything, everything to me. Everything. The only thing.



I, however, put in the TIME to retranslate the ancient Hebrew to discover the TRUTH.

>I've got the wall of books right next to me. I've read it before all or in part somewhere sometime. I can look it up if need be.

Whatever, believe as you will, there are MANY to escort you down Lucifer's highway of Lies and deceit as you've already found.

>Wow. What the hell again?
Let me get this straight...
You say that my believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth
is the evil, satanic, demomic, way of the devil?!?!
Do I have you correct?
Is that what you are really saying?


The path to the TRUTH is traveled by the FEW and those with the COURAGE to do so, something you OBVIOUSLY LACK.

>Whoa... dude.

I bear you no ill will. I mean you no harm.
Yet you clearly would seem to hate me already
if you are, for some reason, capitalizing your insults to my courage?

Okay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711282
6/25/2009 8:42 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

hiding
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 709696
6/25/2009 8:46 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

thanks again saxon. i kinda needed someone to kindly hold up a mirror to me. i needed to make them final little adjustments. time is short now, and i'd hate to be caught with my soul looking like a bitter old hag.


Funny you should say that. Both Isis and Venus saw their former selves in dreams, and that is exactly what they saw.

Here's to better times ahead. hf
i've been saying "funny" things today i notice. you remarked on another thread i said just what some k-brain bible said about the atmosphere holding its breath. i admit i haven't read this thread, i just jumped right to the last page...i had assumed venus and isis were the same person...


Once upon a time, I did too. But, I came to find that Isis is the original galactic Mother of this 7th galaxy of the total 8 including the central galaxy.

Isis was run off by Lucifer et al when she changed her mind and "defected" from their rebellion. Her husband Osiris almost killed her.

Venus, her long time friend, estranged from her original husband Horus, then became the "Patron Goddess" of the rebellion. She's held that position for at least a few thousand years now. That's why all the things considered to be "evil" are surrounded in the "pentagram" etc. That was her "place" for a time as her husband Horus totally refused to have anything to do with her.

That's all changed now.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

i am very glad to hear isis is not venus.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/25/2009 10:11 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Like didn't factor in for me. I only wanted the truth. That's really all I've ever wanted,
and not much more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941



Of course, and let me guess, you were and atheist until you chose Christianity from among all the religions of the world eh?

Let's face facts shall we? You "chose" Christianity because you were BORN into it for all practical purposes.


Whoa. What the hell?! (literally)
I disagree.
I believe my beliefs mean everything, everything to me. Everything. The only thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941




As do everyone's beliefs mean "everything" to them. That, HOWEVER does NOT make what they believe to be TRUE. So, rather than carrying on this 5 year old discussion, how about pulling on your big boy pants and stand up for what you believe rather than WHINING about how I'm defending mine?


Whoa... dude.

I bear you no ill will. I mean you no harm.
Yet you clearly would seem to hate me already
if you are, for some reason, capitalizing your insults to my courage?

Okay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941



I bear you no ill will EITHER, but I'm not going to stand by and let you remain in the same pathetic HOLE I just crawled out of. Define "ill will" as you will, I call that CARING in my book.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/25/2009 10:13 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

the real answer is that humans and all other beings have freewill.
banana2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 707826


Yes, they do, but most of them unwittingly hand such over to Lucifer/Set as his made up "Jesus" in "love drag".

Knowing the TRUTH is no easy affair in this place.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710941
6/25/2009 10:18 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why did you neglect the only important part?

Let me get this straight...
You say that my believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth
is the evil, satanic, demonic, way of the devil?!?!
Do I have you correct?
Is that what you are really saying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/25/2009 10:31 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why did you neglect the only important part?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941


Could it be because you're mixing everything together and I simply lost part of what you were saying when I went to clean up your mess?

Nah, couldn't be right? I must have been avoiding the REAL question. rolleyes


Let me get this straight...
You say that my believing in Jesus Christ of Nazareth
is the evil, satanic, demonic, way of the devil?!?!
Do I have you correct?
Is that what you are really saying?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 710941


Yes, worshiping and groveling before Lucifer/Set, whether knowingly or unwittingly, is indeed the "way of the devil", and the condition of this world SHOULD tell you as much.

Let's see here, currently a FULL one person in every 6 people on the face of this Earth is a Christian. How much "change" has that made in this world?

NADA, ZILCHO, ZIPPO.

No, your "lord" Lucifer/Jesus is powered by your groveling, and hence YOU hand over YOUR ethereal power to him in your ignorance imagining yourself to be oh so "holy".

Do wake up, k?
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710941
6/25/2009 4:14 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Alrighty then.
[sigh]
User ID: 712176
6/26/2009 8:35 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

the story of 'jesus' has been morphed, and used, by the overlords to keep control.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/26/2009 1:33 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

712176]
the story of 'jesus' has been morphed, and used, by the overlords to keep control.
 Quoting: [sigh


Very True. hf
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/26/2009 8:35 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

712176]
the story of 'jesus' has been morphed, and used, by the overlords to keep control.


Very True. hf
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

Well, can we talk about the source of 'Jesus'? Don't care for morphed and usury aspect, but the source of the 'golden nuggets'.

You mentioned an Essene fella that was giving the 'grandchildren' some problems earlier, id like to know the nature of the 'problem' for the controllers.

Also the idea of 'Buddha(s)', were there real examples, or is it all distortion? It does seem there are nuggets of truth in all sources that seem to get distorted, is this true or do they pull something out of a hat?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713242
6/27/2009 2:28 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

float
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/27/2009 3:06 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Well, can we talk about the source of 'Jesus'? Don't care for morphed and usury aspect, but the source of the 'golden nuggets'.

You mentioned an Essene fella that was giving the 'grandchildren' some problems earlier, id like to know the nature of the 'problem' for the controllers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821




The source of the "golden nuggets" is always the same, our Creator. As the limited story goes, an Essene around 300 BC tapped that source and once again brought forth the REAL Heart of our Creator and the reason we are all here in regards to Real Love and integrating to one's body etc. as I've described in great detail at our site and many places answering questions. That's likely the reason the Pharisees are attempting to "trick" him with their question concerning, "well, who's wife IS she in Heaven" in regard to the woman who had had 7 husbands here on Earth.

Many assume his answer regarding their "no giving in marriage in heaven" to mean that Heaven is some ridiculous "chained heat" men's penitentiary. (no kidding, I've seen many assuming that Heaven is all male lol)

The simple answer is this, ALL "marrying" and "Heart bonding" is done HERE on Earth as is clearly stated in:

"What is bound on Earth is bound in Heaven, what is loosed on Earth is loosed in Heaven".

So, the completeness of the Love teachings left in the Bible is sketchy at best, as such totally confounds and smears the varied types of Love with the more general "Loving your brothers and sisters", as though the weaker Love is somehow more important than the SACRED primary Heart bonds of the Kingdom.

In any regard, ANYTHING or ANYONE attempting to put Real Love BACK in it's proper place is a THREAT to the ruling elite of ANY time as such barfs out their fear tactics and their "priests" of the Fleur De Lis control structure for the masses.



Also the idea of 'Buddha(s)', were there real examples, or is it all distortion? It does seem there are nuggets of truth in all sources that seem to get distorted, is this true or do they pull something out of a hat?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821



I suspect there may have been real guys assuming the positions of "Buddhas", as likely such was needed to implant the teachings of such. But still, just like the Jesus myth, the "Love" being taught by these groups is always flawed and improperly aimed to lead the unsuspecting astray.

First rule of thumb in deception, ALL traps of deception MUST contain copious amounts of Truth, sprinkled with very crafty misdirection to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles.

And when you think about what I've said in regards to the Kingdom and the REAL picture v.s. what's taught in religions, the tactical lying becomes very obvious in intent.

And Yes, "they" pull whatever they need to get the misdirection job done, of course sprinkled with copious amounts of Mystic Occultic astrological manipulation.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/27/2009 4:21 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

First rule of thumb in deception, ALL traps of deception MUST contain copious amounts of Truth, sprinkled with very crafty misdirection to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles.

And when you think about what I've said in regards to the Kingdom and the REAL picture v.s. what's taught in religions, the tactical lying becomes very obvious in intent.

And Yes, "they" pull whatever they need to get the misdirection job done, of course sprinkled with copious amounts of Mystic Occultic astrological manipulation.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

What do you see when you look in the mirror?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/27/2009 4:52 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

....
The source of the "golden nuggets" is always the same, our Creator. As the limited story goes, an Essene around 300 BC tapped that source and once again brought forth the REAL Heart of our Creator and the reason we are all here in regards to Real Love and integrating to one's body etc. as I've described in great detail at our site and many places answering questions. That's likely the reason the Pharisees are attempting to "trick" him with their question concerning, "well, who's wife IS she in Heaven" in regard to the woman who had had 7 husbands here on Earth.

Many assume his answer regarding their "no giving in marriage in heaven" to mean that Heaven is some ridiculous "chained heat" men's penitentiary. (no kidding, I've seen many assuming that Heaven is all male lol)

The simple answer is this, ALL "marrying" and "Heart bonding" is done HERE on Earth as is clearly stated in:

"What is bound on Earth is bound in Heaven, what is loosed on Earth is loosed in Heaven".

So, the completeness of the Love teachings left in the Bible is sketchy at best, as such totally confounds and smears the varied types of Love with the more general "Loving your brothers and sisters", as though the weaker Love is somehow more important than the SACRED primary Heart bonds of the Kingdom.

In any regard, ANYTHING or ANYONE attempting to put Real Love BACK in it's proper place is a THREAT to the ruling elite of ANY time as such barfs out their fear tactics and their "priests" of the Fleur De Lis control structure for the masses.

I suspect there may have been real guys assuming the positions of "Buddhas", as likely such was needed to implant the teachings of such. But still, just like the Jesus myth, the "Love" being taught by these groups is always flawed and improperly aimed to lead the unsuspecting astray.

First rule of thumb in deception, ALL traps of deception MUST contain copious amounts of Truth, sprinkled with very crafty misdirection to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles.

And when you think about what I've said in regards to the Kingdom and the REAL picture v.s. what's taught in religions, the tactical lying becomes very obvious in intent.

And Yes, "they" pull whatever they need to get the misdirection job done, of course sprinkled with copious amounts of Mystic Occultic astrological manipulation.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

But those amazing fellas, it did seem to me that they desperately wanted people to help themselves 'get out of the muck'. Do feel that the people and the very disciples themselves could not fully understand the 'source of the golden nuggets'. Guess it didn't help that they never seemed to have written what they said. But stripping out the layer of the codes, the laws, and the interpretations over the ages, the real ideas from those fellas, who seems to exemplify enlightenment (in action - "state of 'ON'") and wanting the brothers and sisters a way out of the muck, even if that is just a glimmer of the original intentions that is.

What the 'Buddha' fella seemed to talk about, not what the disciples says, seems to talk about unconditional love, the middle way, stuff like that which seems alot like the "Real Love". Especially the fella that gave the Pharisee, Sadducees, and even the scribes 'fits'. There seemed to have been a fellow that could do what 'they' could not do, and seemed to always gave props to "the Father (in me that does the work)". Which even the use of "the Father" seems to be at odd with the violently tempermental conditional loving male god that demanded sacrifices and stuff like that.

The divergence for me, in light of the above to what you say, is the idea of a "twin flame", being "true and faithful" (to her in my case and towards myself".

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/27/2009 5:00 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...aimed to lead the unsuspecting astray.

First rule of thumb in deception, ALL traps of deception MUST contain copious amounts of Truth, sprinkled with very crafty misdirection to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles.

And when you think about what I've said in regards to the Kingdom and the REAL picture v.s. what's taught in religions, the tactical lying becomes very obvious in intent.

And Yes, "they" pull whatever they need to get the misdirection job done, of course sprinkled with copious amounts of Mystic Occultic astrological manipulation.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

"to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles... are you describing 'secret brotherhood' recruitment expression here? Reminds me of the brothers that are lead to believe a 'lie is real' and so can never learn the truth, searching for all of eternity.

Uh, "Fleur de Lis"? can you share more?

Thank you.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/27/2009 6:01 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

First rule of thumb in deception, ALL traps of deception MUST contain copious amounts of Truth, sprinkled with very crafty misdirection to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles.

And when you think about what I've said in regards to the Kingdom and the REAL picture v.s. what's taught in religions, the tactical lying becomes very obvious in intent.

And Yes, "they" pull whatever they need to get the misdirection job done, of course sprinkled with copious amounts of Mystic Occultic astrological manipulation.

What do you see when you look in the mirror?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314


I see the most amazing person I've ever seen, read about or met. You? hmm
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/27/2009 6:09 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

But those amazing fellas, it did seem to me that they desperately wanted people to help themselves 'get out of the muck'. Do feel that the people and the very disciples themselves could not fully understand the 'source of the golden nuggets'. Guess it didn't help that they never seemed to have written what they said. But stripping out the layer of the codes, the laws, and the interpretations over the ages, the real ideas from those fellas, who seems to exemplify enlightenment (in action - "state of 'ON'") and wanting the brothers and sisters a way out of the muck, even if that is just a glimmer of the original intentions that is.

What the 'Buddha' fella seemed to talk about, not what the disciples says, seems to talk about unconditional love, the middle way, stuff like that which seems alot like the "Real Love". Especially the fella that gave the Pharisee, Sadducees, and even the scribes 'fits'. There seemed to have been a fellow that could do what 'they' could not do, and seemed to always gave props to "the Father (in me that does the work)". Which even the use of "the Father" seems to be at odd with the violently tempermental conditional loving male god that demanded sacrifices and stuff like that.

The divergence for me, in light of the above to what you say, is the idea of a "twin flame", being "true and faithful" (to her in my case and towards myself".

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821



Yes, the Twin Flame divergence is the most important control point, and hence the most hidden of Real Love notions. In essence these guys turn Love on it's head by trivializing the Love between a man and a woman and inserting the far less powerful general love for one's brothers and sisters in its stead. As well, the very truancy from the school of life itself is generally encouraged by most of these guys in the search for "holy spirituality". Such can never be found by removing one's self from life to sit and continually meditate upon a mountain top, any more than one is going to learn calculus by never attending the class or reading the text.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/27/2009 6:12 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

"to keep the "seeker" traveling in circles... are you describing 'secret brotherhood' recruitment expression here? Reminds me of the brothers that are lead to believe a 'lie is real' and so can never learn the truth, searching for all of eternity.

Uh, "Fleur de Lis"? can you share more?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821


Indeed, the secret societies are just one of the MANY circles intended to keep those within locked here upon this Earth.

The Fleur de Lis as a symbol, has 3 main branches, signifying the main systems of control for the elite.

1. Government
2. Religion
3. Money

Those are their three main systems for manipulating the "herd" to their own ends.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
spacie
User ID: 713366
6/27/2009 6:15 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

i no longer seek for my 'soul mate'.
i am content with my present celibacy.
i do not feel a need to connect sexually, to be whole.
i am whole already.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/27/2009 8:25 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Can you share more in regards to Venus, Lilith, and pentagrams in general? The two latter do bring up negative connotations. What are the significance to these three, are there any?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/27/2009 8:53 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

What does "overcoming the Beast" mean and entail again? also what is the Beast?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/27/2009 9:02 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Can you share more in regards to "the 5th Element" and also the Niburu thing? Is that palace of the watchers or the throne room of the Beast's father or something, like an Anu to an Enlil (who was described as a "red beast" in true form)?

Also from my quick look into numerology, life path number was thought to be 9, until i took into account my real birthdate which showed 11. are there any significance with these numbers, a quick search showed negative aspects like 'sacrifice' and freaky stuff like that.

Thank you.
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