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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 714073
6/28/2009 7:23 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

saxon, your views are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too traditional for my current mode of thinking !!

women in dresses and men in pants, eh ?

i was a teen during the 60s.
those days, teens had sex and alot of broken condoms.
our moms also, had one too many additional child....due to the condom problem. so, moms had d & c's, and kids got married.
then, the pill came on scene.
what a wave of relief for both sexes !
we had illegal abortions, back alley style.
and we still wanted sex/union/bliss.

now, today, i find myself at age 60.
i have done the marriage game, twice.
i have wanted and birthed, 3 wonderful children.

several of my friends are gay.
i have health issues, so, sex is now a memory.

we cannot go back.
i love people who see each other as having the same desires as themselves !
if traditional man/woman appeals to you, aok by me.
but, life offers so much more to explore now.

spacie....


Dresses are a good way to project Femininity, and in such is a good thing for women in general.

The bottom line of all of this is Real Love in any manner of "vehicle" for which it might cross the finish line of success.

As much as this current society now scoffs and mocks the ways of the Victorian era, such group FAR surpassed this current society in the successful development of REAL Love. Most of the "love" of this current society is but a dark phantom of what once was more commonly developed in better circumstances.

Now, that's not to say that the Victorian era was "perfect" in such, as that is clearly NOT the case. However, it STILL was better than the general mass confusion gripping the general populace today.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

every age has it's ups and downsides.
i hate dresses and always have !
they feel foreign to my body identity.
must be the warrior native american coming out....
he he.
yet, i am very much FEmale.
i have that 'mom' image...
no matter what i wear.

i do not glorify the past.
i miss the horse and buggy days....
but, life was alot more work then.

i am grateful to Be in this time.
i have already witnessed so many changes in people's attitudes, and i think it is for the better !
we can have instant media to connect us !
awesome.

spacie.

peace
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 714526
6/29/2009 9:47 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Really, Saxon ... regarding your comments about the Bible being authored by the workers of darkness/whatever it was you said ...

Do you really think that the plans of the enemy could EVER have victory over the hand of the Divine?


On second thought, I apparently need to address this more.

Whoever said allowing Lucifer to be king here was his having "victory" over the hand of the Divine?

So, how about the Quaran, the Kolbrin and a host of other books claiming to be everything that your Bible claims, are they VICTORY over your "divine"?

Sorry, you can't have your cake and eat it too. There are NO "pure" books of Truth here, NONE however much YOU choose to live in such a silly la la land. The only reason you claim what you do concerning the Bible is that you've done precious little in Truly checking its credentials other than having "faith", aka, believing what your mommy and daddy told you was True.

Exactly WHAT do you believe "overcoming the Beast" entails, picking out the right Bible from the bookstore?



Not happening, whether you want to believe it or not.


It most certainly DID happen, and you've bought the Jewish LIE hook line and sinker like a good little "goyim" girl. No wonder they laugh at people like you behind your back, SO gullible.



The Word of God is more powerful than any two-edged sword and able to cut through the b.s./fat to the truth/meat of the matter - - Word of God about the WORD, aka The Holy Bible (minus the b.s. part).



That's truly laughable to someone like myself who TRULY knows the Truth concerning that Rabbinical Mystic Occult piece of filth you tote around for thumpin rights.



I believe that the Bible was written on multiple levels, inspired by The Most High, and that most of us as humans, are not even comprehending level one.


Actually, the only part of the bible worth looking into is the ancient Hebrew, but the English translations were made to keep the real meaning hidden NOT to lay the Truth in your lap. lol


And I believe all this - - regardless of any interference by the principalities and powers and the rulers of the darkness of this age!

They are no power against the Almighty.



You can believe what you like, but such does NOT make it True. Your "belief" does NOT make Truth.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

every One has their Own Truth.
cool2
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25583
6/29/2009 11:39 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yup, she sure did, or at least in this galaxy. They had Isis down and out for a long long time.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer

your concepts about the current situation of her confuses me.


That's not current, that happened to her LONG LONG ago. She's MUCH better these days.



how can you be sure about that? i mean the whole thing is still unresolved.


The whole story has completed. Isis has been "married" to her new husband, and Venus returned to her husband as well.

It's a wrap, hence what's going on with the world right now. hf
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


This is new and i am trying to keep up. To summarize: Venus is your wife and your twin flame? and Isis is your mother and your new wife and twin flame?

clarify please.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/29/2009 11:54 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

every One has their Own Truth.
cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 714526


Everyone has their own past and personal history. Such is/was True of them.

THE Truth, is simply what "it" is, and whether one cares to know that Truth is totally up to them. Most people here hold lies in the place meant for Truth.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/29/2009 12:28 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yup, she sure did, or at least in this galaxy. They had Isis down and out for a long long time.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer

your concepts about the current situation of her confuses me.


That's not current, that happened to her LONG LONG ago. She's MUCH better these days.



how can you be sure about that? i mean the whole thing is still unresolved.


The whole story has completed. Isis has been "married" to her new husband, and Venus returned to her husband as well.

It's a wrap, hence what's going on with the world right now. hf


This is new and i am trying to keep up. To summarize: Venus is your wife and your twin flame? and Isis is your mother and your new wife and twin flame?

clarify please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583



Here, let me make a very long story short. This is a story of immortal gods/goddess BTW, so don't be imagining mortals in what I'm saying other than possible side trip incarnations made in attempts to fix the story.

It goes like this:

Horus and Hathor/Venus/Ishtar/Ashtoreth, his then wife, were targeted by the newly formed rebellion with his younger brother Lucifer/set at that helm.

Lucifer/Set seduced Hathor away from Horus and ran off with both her and his children. After fighting concerning this where Horus ripped out one of Lucifer/Set's eyes and Lucifer/Set symbolically ripping off Horus's penis (i.e. stole his wife/children), Horus ultimately leaves this realm, never to return for a VERY VERY long time. That's where the story of the Hopi "Pahana" originated and the "evil" that had to be fixed among the Watchers.

In the middle of all of this, Horus is rejected by his mother Isis and father Osiris as well. Isis is for a time the dual consort of both Osiris and Lucifer, to then be ultimately stripped of everything and tossed aside like so much garbage, something that almost "killed" her spirit, if that were possible.

While Horus is "out there" he is, after a time, given a young goddess as wife due to his being alone. Apparently this was done as a merciful move on our Creator's part as the plan was LONG from being finished. This is the unknown goddess from among the ranks of the nonfallen. Nostradamus shows her with a "halo" to denote this fact. Yes, she is now here incarnate.

After much more time passes, Horus decides to come back for his original wife Hathor/Venus/Ishtar/Ashtoreth. She agrees and dearly wants to come home. But, getting her back is not going to be easy as she's been ultimately imprisoned in the temple of Lucifer/Set as their patron goddess. She replaced Isis in Lucifer/Set's "Beast" after she left this galaxy. Several incarnational passes are made in an attempt to bring Venus home, but each attempt is HEAVILY fought by the forces of darkness here.

In this last pass incarnation, not only does Horus successfully have the Hearts of himself and Venus bound back together (that's required to get her out of here), but also goes on to do something which seems very unconventional to most of us here, he goes on to "marry" his own mother, Isis. That's what the story of Isis relating that she "generates" herself a new golden penis to replace that which she could not find from her husband Osiris. In other words, the new husband to Isis would be her long lost son Horus in the length of time.

This marriage has already taken place in the ethereal realms as has the reuniting ceremony with goddess Venus and Horus.

Therefore, when one looks at all the memes and symbols from the past and present, they will see the heavy ongoing meme of the THREE and ONE, as shown on Hopi Prophecy Rock, as shown in many of the paintings of Nostradamus (the three "caves" and one "star")

Everywhere one looks today you will see this 3 and 1 meme being repeated over and over and over again, sometimes in a positive light and often too in a negative light. The presentation simply depends upon the "side" making the statement.

The "Mother of Gutalupe" shows Horus carring the 3 on his back, as both she in the picture and "The Woman Clothed in the Sun" are ALL the same woman who is a composite of the 3. The relative placing of the 3 is as follows.

Isis will be "moved" to the center galaxy where she will take up her new position as the Female Viceroy to the whole Creation.

Venus will be moving to where Isis used to be once upon a time, as the Mother of this galaxy. She will be heavily involved in facilitating the "salvaging" of the darkness here on Earth as well the rest of the galaxy.

The "unknown" goddess will take up a more generalized position in the central galaxy acting in the capacity of the rewarding "angel" of the nonfallen realms.

All of this is intended to finally stabilize this galaxy and block any future attempts to "take down" the Kingdom of Heaven from the top down as was done by Lucifer/Set long ago.

See how simple that is? hf
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25583
6/30/2009 4:07 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

So since they're all here you have all 3 and your mother is your wife also and there's a third on the side and you are all living happily ever after? You, Saxon, are inviting trouble and risk losing what may be one true love if it even exists.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25583
6/30/2009 4:19 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

All of this is intended to finally stabilize this galaxy and block any future attempts to "take down" the Kingdom of Heaven from the top down as was done by Lucifer/Set long ago.

See how simple that is? hf
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Nothing 'stable' about this. This is a ticking time bomb. Women don't willingly form relationships in packs except in the fantasy minds of men. You are setting things up for the continuation of disaster. The endless cycle of this universe will never end at this juncture.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 4:23 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

So since they're all here you have all 3 and your mother is your wife also and there's a third on the side and you are all living happily ever after? You, Saxon, are inviting trouble and risk losing what may be one true love if it even exists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583


Nope, my original wife is my wife. We all live the lives we chose here and all I'm doing is telling you the story that's coming in from ethereal land concerning the "story".

As well, you, Coward, are making judgments that you have not information to make. You simply HOPE that I have nothing more than yourself. People like you are a dime a dozen.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 4:24 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Nothing 'stable' about this. This is a ticking time bomb. Women don't willingly form relationships in packs except in the fantasy minds of men. You are setting things up for the continuation of disaster. The endless cycle of this universe will never end at this juncture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583


Again, you're making judgments concerning things you know nothing about, extrapolating your limited understanding from this place into the ethereal realms.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25583
6/30/2009 4:39 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

So since they're all here you have all 3 and your mother is your wife also and there's a third on the side and you are all living happily ever after? You, Saxon, are inviting trouble and risk losing what may be one true love if it even exists.


Nope, my original wife is my wife. We all live the lives we chose here and all I'm doing is telling you the story that's coming in from ethereal land concerning the "story".

As well, you, Coward, are making judgments that you have not information to make. You simply HOPE that I have nothing more than yourself. People like you are a dime a dozen.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Yet you say all 3 are here happily ever after. You must have a VERY patient wife to accept 3 other women into her life. Some how I think that is not the case at all. Your story is hopeful and dangerous and the "stability' of the universe is in jeopardy as it was in the beginning apparently nothing has been learned. You say it is because lucifer took / stole your wife family (as others) yet you participate in the same and have apparently added to the strife through the ages in your own family adding "fuel" to the fire. You have not rekindeled the relationship of the ONE you lost, you have merely added her to a den of those you collected along the way.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25583
6/30/2009 4:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Nothing 'stable' about this. This is a ticking time bomb. Women don't willingly form relationships in packs except in the fantasy minds of men. You are setting things up for the continuation of disaster. The endless cycle of this universe will never end at this juncture.


Again, you're making judgments concerning things you know nothing about, extrapolating your limited understanding from this place into the ethereal realms.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Does anyone else here think the etheral realm is so much different than here? OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS IMPERFECTIONS THAT we are all hoping will disappear , sickness etc.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 5:28 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yet you say all 3 are here happily ever after. You must have a VERY patient wife to accept 3 other women into her life.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583



They all 3 live where ever and how ever they will. They are not active parts of each other's life here as one would expect as such arrangements are typically of little help here depending.

My wife is reasonably patient and has in no way "accepted 3 other women into her life". She and I are the focus here during this life.



Some how I think that is not the case at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583




You seem threatened somehow. How is my life and family set up YOUR concern? You're on the attack why?



Your story is hopeful and dangerous and the "stability' of the universe is in jeopardy as it was in the beginning apparently nothing has been learned.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583




My story is what my story is. I didn't make up the story, but rather I was TOLD the story in so many amazing ways as to make sure I GOT the story and wouldn't just pass it off as so much BS. Again, you're threatened about something, why?

And now you're the universe stability expert eh? Nothing has been learned eh? I suppose if you're talking about yourself, that would be True as you apparently suffer from sizable delusions of being able to discern and judge things about which you know VERY little.



You say it is because lucifer took / stole your wife family (as others) yet you participate in the same and have apparently added to the strife through the ages in your own family adding "fuel" to the fire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583




Really? So, who's wife am I "stealing" pray tell? And again you pass vicious hateful judgment against me knowing precious little of that which you speak. Have you always been this pompous and self righteous or is this a special display just for me?




You have not rekindeled the relationship of the ONE you lost, you have merely added her to a den of those you collected along the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583



And you know this HOW? Now you're my family relationship expert to boot eh?

As for adding anyone to "dens", I've done no such thing. Again, I'm simply relating the picture from "OUT THERE".

If you find this story SO distasteful, STOP READING IT.

Deal? hf
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 5:33 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Nothing 'stable' about this. This is a ticking time bomb. Women don't willingly form relationships in packs except in the fantasy minds of men. You are setting things up for the continuation of disaster. The endless cycle of this universe will never end at this juncture.


Again, you're making judgments concerning things you know nothing about, extrapolating your limited understanding from this place into the ethereal realms.



Does anyone else here think the etheral realm is so much different than here? OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS IMPERFECTIONS THAT we are all hoping will disappear , sickness etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583


So, let me get this straight. In your mind all sickness is going to disappear, but JEALOUSY is going to REIN SUPREME in Heaven eh? hmm

You FAIL to understand that there are MANY things which feed into this story making things like we're discussing DIFFICULT to discern. Why, had you simply been raised in a different culture sporting multiple wives, you'd think absolutely NOTHING of this discussion.

But, instead, simply because you've been raised in the HARD CORE one husband one wife mindset, then you just KNOW "YOUR" Heaven just HAS to be LIKE THAT.

Grow up, really.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 5:52 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yet you say all 3 are here happily ever after. You must have a VERY patient wife to accept 3 other women into her life. Some how I think that is not the case at all. Your story is hopeful and dangerous and the "stability' of the universe is in jeopardy as it was in the beginning apparently nothing has been learned. You say it is because lucifer took / stole your wife family (as others) yet you participate in the same and have apparently added to the strife through the ages in your own family adding "fuel" to the fire. You have not rekindeled the relationship of the ONE you lost, you have merely added her to a den of those you collected along the way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583


And let me make something perfectly clear for those like yourself who imagine me to be living some "fantasy life" here as Mr. Harem boy or whatever nonsense you're entertaining.

My life here is TOTALLY focused upon my WIFE with me now as was apparently planned from before we showed up here. My knowing about the rest of that story does NOT change my Love for her or my LIFE with her. Imagining one's self to KNOW everything about the eternal realms is a FOOLS game and something that I do NOT entertain.

I DO, however, find the "story" to be interesting and worth knowing since SO many have gone through SO much trouble to lay it before me.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 25583
6/30/2009 5:52 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Nothing 'stable' about this. This is a ticking time bomb. Women don't willingly form relationships in packs except in the fantasy minds of men. You are setting things up for the continuation of disaster. The endless cycle of this universe will never end at this juncture.


Again, you're making judgments concerning things you know nothing about, extrapolating your limited understanding from this place into the ethereal realms.



Does anyone else here think the etheral realm is so much different than here? OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS IMPERFECTIONS THAT we are all hoping will disappear , sickness etc.


So, let me get this straight. In your mind all sickness is going to disappear, but JEALOUSY is going to REIN SUPREME in Heaven eh? hmm

You FAIL to understand that there are MANY things which feed into this story making things like we're discussing DIFFICULT to discern. Why, had you simply been raised in a different culture sporting multiple wives, you'd think absolutely NOTHING of this discussion.

But, instead, simply because you've been raised in the HARD CORE one husband one wife mindset, then you just KNOW "YOUR" Heaven just HAS to be LIKE THAT.

Grow up, really.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


good luck saxon. may you find happiness.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 8:30 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

good luck saxon. may you find happiness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583


Good luck Coward, may you find what you deserve.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 9:40 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why are you so nasty to so many?
tim AKA Jarhead
User ID: 392895
6/30/2009 9:43 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

SCHOOL
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 10:29 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why are you so nasty to so many?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314


Why don't you tell us your real name "spacie"? hmm
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 10:37 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why are you so nasty to so many?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 10:40 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why are you so nasty to so many?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314


Why are you so hateful to so many? hmm
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 10:42 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

I'm not and I don't.

Your words are plain.

You answer a question with a question.

Was it a troubling question?
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 10:44 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

I'm not and I don't.

Your words are plain.

You answer a question with a question.

Was it a troubling question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314


I'm not and I don't.

You answer a question with a question.

Was it a troubling question?
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 10:46 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

The spirit of anti-christ is but a dim reflection.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 10:47 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Here, let me:

Then you...
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/30/2009 10:50 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

The spirit of anti-christ is but a dim reflection.
 Quoting: spacie 713314


So, you're in need of some bulbs around your mirror? hmm
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 10:53 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Here, let me:

Then you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 10:53 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

So, you're
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


I must be psychic...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
6/30/2009 11:03 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon,
If you don't object,
what is your occupation?
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/1/2009 12:10 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon,
If you don't object,
what is your occupation?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314


You first. hmm
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