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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 716607
7/2/2009 5:57 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why God Allows Suffering Here,

give the REAL Answer

630722

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Why don't you give us your pre-packaged answer, and lets us reason together if it is the correct one!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
 Quoting: HardTruth



lol...630722, I'm sorry I asked!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/2/2009 5:59 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Quoting:
Because this is not heaven.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 656628
... spiritual senses are in training to be unlimited, far superior too those pesky fleshly ones!!
 Quoting: HardTruth
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/2/2009 6:02 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

supperior
idea
 Quoting: A/ C
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/2/2009 6:11 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

 Quoting: HardTruth
[link to www.andyweberstudios.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/2/2009 6:19 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

see picture >> [link to www.andyweberstudios.com]
These seed syllables of body, speech and mind, situated at the crown, throat and heart chakras, are used extensively in meditation
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/2/2009 7:11 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

I think you have it most of it but as pointed out the suffering of innocents abounds and what growth could possibly come of it for the innocent. And this answer will take a leap past logic and what is conventional reason to more imaginative and intuitive (spiritually instinctive if you prefer) realms.
 Quoting: WisdomSeeker 716701



And who are we to judge spirits as to being "innocent"? Just because a spirit shows up in a cute little young body in no way tells you who or what the past of that spirit entails.

As well, suffering is a general spirit developer and not something to be targeted as "bad". Just because a spirit is suffering does NOT mean that that spirit has done something "bad" to deserve such.



"We" suffer for "our" brothers sins. We do this because it does it does "grow" all of us even if it might not grow an individual.
 Quoting: WisdomSeeker 716701




The accounting misnomer called "sin" was fabricated by Lucifer for the purposes of leading this galaxy astray.

Our Heavenly Mother and Father know no "sins", any more than a good parent here keeps track of the immature bungles of their children.

All actions are directly reflected in the "condition" of one's spirit/oversoul( should one be to that point of development) and the notions of "pay" and "reward" are ALL misnomers designed to keep the trapped spirits here "paying and paying".



If the concept of communal suffering seems foreign that is because you aren't in heaven yet.
 Quoting: WisdomSeeker 716701




Somehow I doubt you're speaking of suffering IN Heaven, so I'm going to guess you're attempting to say that the Watchers look at those they look after as "communal suffering" to be a "good" thing.

Nothing is further from the Truth, as suffering is a VERY specific tool measured against a spirit in exacting ways to get the desired developmental result. Socialism in the form of suffering yields the same result as does socialism in a monetary sense. Such CATERS to the lazy and unmotivated.



"Unity" and the understanding of this final and utterly complete and selfless (without evil) unity has always been the goal. We are the children of God and we are still in gestation, when the the day of our birth truly comes "we are" will cease and "I am" will be all that is left.

WisdomSeeker
 Quoting: WisdomSeeker 716701




This is a VERY popular misconception which FLIES in the face of understanding. Our Creator Parents did NOT purposely set us all apart as individuals, spend ALL that time and effort growing us up to then mooosh us all back together as we were prior to our being "begotten".

What you paint is like Divinci, when finally finished with the Mona Lisa, then crumpling up the canvas, grinding it up and setting about reweaving the canvas.

The great desire of our Creator is LOVE, and such CANNOT be displayed in the "goal" you describe.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
7/2/2009 9:31 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Is Saxon greater than Jesus Christ?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/3/2009 2:10 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Nothing 'stable' about this. This is a ticking time bomb. Women don't willingly form relationships in packs except in the fantasy minds of men. You are setting things up for the continuation of disaster. The endless cycle of this universe will never end at this juncture.


Again, you're making judgments concerning things you know nothing about, extrapolating your limited understanding from this place into the ethereal realms.



Does anyone else here think the etheral realm is so much different than here? OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS IMPERFECTIONS THAT we are all hoping will disappear , sickness etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25583

i think that that realm is where the downfall of evolutions are happening - devolution
so, it goes down from angelik-human to ..the animal kingdom.. plant realms.. mineral ..and elementals are there for to be used again into the evolutunary path
now.. where was sacks777on to
wheres the kingdom for the natural etherial web of humans bodies should be in tuch with..
why do those kingdoms keep theirs thinking and functional roles as being still humans if they are not that anymore - differing with the much more knowledge senses spirits ect. from humans
whats creators plan -- to destroy humans by using non-human kingdoms in never-ending humanly immoral mental ect. but for others natural impulses to and for just continuation of such human crimes by programing in them such schisophrene power-mind?-desires for a suck of blood toursty-ones not willing to go to sleep not able to do so or just not willing to pass tru 5720 year processes and so bridging the gaps in fear of ..?

..what is your fear
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/3/2009 2:18 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

being still human?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/3/2009 2:19 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

lea? is that you?

such a soul pain
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 630722
7/3/2009 2:21 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

sleep
go to sleep
peace to all
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 641467
7/3/2009 2:33 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

People can bang their big toe and think it's the worst suffering a human has ever experienced.
Man, humans have nerve endings, they have emotions, they have feelings...unless you want to have a lobotomy to remove all that ....then yes, at some time you will experience SUFFERING.


Lobotomised people feel NOTHING...IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/3/2009 6:16 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Is Saxon greater than Jesus Christ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 713314


Even AC 713314 is greater than Jesus Christ, as at LEAST you are REAL.


You ARE real, right? lol
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
spacie
User ID: 717676
7/3/2009 9:34 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

oh get real....

lordy be.
not trolling...

whatever
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 713314
7/3/2009 11:56 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Is Saxon greater than Jesus Christ?


Even AC 713314 is greater than Jesus Christ, as at LEAST you are REAL.


You ARE real, right? lol
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

Can Saxon ever answer a direct question directly?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 418975
7/4/2009 12:27 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Enough!
You can escape Karma, just give it up and head straight up between the pillars.
Fuck Karmic Entanglement.
[spacie]
User ID: 717908
7/4/2009 7:18 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

k d lang
constant cravvvvvvvvvvvvvving
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 717908
7/4/2009 8:25 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.



The REAL answer is you have NO fucking idea what God is, does, or wants.

You can rationalize ALL you want, but that does NOT make your delusions real.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 697612

iamwith
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/4/2009 2:12 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Enough!
You can escape Karma, just give it up and head straight up between the pillars.
Fuck Karmic Entanglement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 418975


Karma/Sin are both misconceptions used to trap spirits in this realm.

Spirit MATURITY is where the answer rests, not on "paying prices".
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 717377
7/4/2009 2:17 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Enough!
You can escape Karma, just give it up and head straight up between the pillars.
Fuck Karmic Entanglement.


Karma/Sin are both misconceptions used to trap spirits in this realm.

Spirit MATURITY is where the answer rests, not on "paying prices".
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


I agree, it's high time to shed the shackles!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
9teen.47™ Subscriber
Time is short.
User ID: 718104
7/4/2009 2:28 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Make no mistake about it. You have one life and after this the Judgement.

Read this...and be warned,

Who Murdered Clarice?...


[link to www.chick.com]

Saxon (777) is a liar.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 717377
7/4/2009 2:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Make no mistake about it. You have one life and after this the Judgement.

Read this...and be warned,

Who Murdered Clarice?...


[link to www.chick.com]

Saxon (777) is a liar.
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


Well then, carry on with YOUR allowed tarnished cycle!

And Saxon is not the liar on this thread, look in the mirror for the face of the liar!!

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
tangelo
User ID: 717986
7/4/2009 2:45 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

34 pages of poo. tp
9teen.47™ Subscriber
Time is short.
User ID: 718104
7/4/2009 3:01 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

REINCARNATION IS A LIE

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:


maximc

Here is the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus. The Trap...

[link to www.chick.com]

Seek the Lord while you have still been blessed with a little time. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow and then where would you be?

Last Edited by 9teen.47™ on 7/4/2009 at 3:06 PM
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
HardTruth Subscriber
User ID: 717377
7/4/2009 3:04 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

REINCARNATION IS A LIE

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


Reincarnation is not a lie, it is the reality of this world, and the pictures you use to distract don't work!!

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out:.... (Rev 3:12)

___________

If it expects, or demands worship, it is not divine!!
paranoid eyes
User ID: 692798
7/4/2009 3:11 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

god is a myth.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/4/2009 3:13 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Make no mistake about it. You have one life and after this the Judgement.

Read this...and be warned,

Who Murdered Clarice?...

Saxon (777) is a liar.
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


9teen is both a coward and a shill.

What's with all the sexual overtone in your posts 9teen?
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
9teen.47™ Subscriber
Time is short.
User ID: 718104
7/4/2009 3:14 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

girlonwall HardTruth, you carry on the way you are and one day the Lord will deal with you without mercy.

Here is one of my favorite Chick tracts. It is the story of how Jesus Christ ordered the Prophet Elijah to slaughter the 850 false priests of Baal. Firestarter?...

[link to www.chick.com]

REINCARNATION IS A LIE

Hbr 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
 Quoting: 9teen.47™

Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage, tobaccos worth more than gold or silver, and be kind to hungry children.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/4/2009 3:14 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

34 pages of poo. tp
 Quoting: tangelo


Nah, if one pulls out the gold being presented here, the remaining Christian tripe is your poo. tp
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/4/2009 3:16 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

CHRISTIANITY IS THE LIE
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
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