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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 2:58 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yes, hence the reason that so few here have overcome the outer beast. This was a test for the "Mighty" of Creation, with the most powerful spirits of creation here incarnate to "throw their hats in the ring", taking a shot at "winning" one of those abandoned positions of rule left by those of the rebellion.

Imagine your worst fears and facing them all in the darkest period of your life, alone. The process varies from person to person and the intensity is reflected in the amount of accumulated "baggage" that a given spirit has collected over the ages. The timing of the event is determined by those guarding one's path, those able to "see" where your spirit is at in development and relative position in regards to the "baggage".

What happens is largely dependent upon the basis of one's fears and past. And yes, I've been through this. It was literally like being dead, after which I "arose". It's something very difficult to think back upon.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

That unpleasant experience.. was there any aspect of 'letting go' of anything to get past such experience?

Also does one's ego 'change' from before and after such experience?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711807
7/9/2009 3:01 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Stop trying to rationalise suffering of any kind! We are in a tangled mess created by an outside force which God is in the process of freeing us from. We are more less temporarily bound in a matrix designed by highly advanced beings who don't value humanities best interests.

These beings gave us our 'so called' technologies, religions, history. We are truly living in a matrix of a false reality.

Have you noticed that all the most important documentation describing where we may have originated from have been long destroyed by either accidental fire, or destruction by order of some politician.

To us it may seem that eons of time has elapsed, whereas for God it appears as weeks. The technology we are lodged in uses time loops to set us 'back in time' sort of speak. which makes it difficult to infiltrate and put a stop to it from the outside without causing harm to the people within it.

The good news is that these time loops are crumbling. The most recent time loop attempt was with Michael Jackson's death. This was a very blatent and futile attempt. The horizon is coming! It is done.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 3:04 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Stop trying to rationalise suffering of any kind! We are in a tangled mess created by an outside force which God is in the process of freeing us from. We are more less temporarily bound in a matrix designed by highly advanced beings who don't value humanities best interests.

These beings gave us our 'so called' technologies, religions, history. We are truly living in a matrix of a false reality.

Have you noticed that all the most important documentation describing where we may have originated from have been long destroyed by either accidental fire, or destruction by order of some politician.

To us it may seem that eons of time has elapsed, whereas for God it appears as weeks. The technology we are lodged in uses time loops to set us 'back in time' sort of speak. which makes it difficult to infiltrate and put a stop to it from the outside without causing harm to the people within it.

The good news is that these time loops are crumbling. The most recent time loop attempt was with Michael Jackson's death. This was a very blatent and futile attempt. The horizon is coming! It is done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711807


Hi there,

Uhm, 'time loops' and MJ? Can you elaborate more?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 711807
7/9/2009 3:21 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

A 'time loop' can be rectified if there is a mass population that is giving attention to a specific event or "time". This is how the matrix is sustained and fed, It basically feeds off of us. Note how long we have been reminded of Jackson's death since the original date. It works similarily to people dwelling on past personal memories as well, but to a lesser dergree.

Hope that helps.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 3:36 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
Real Love has a "structure" as well a spectra of powers and manifestations in the many "bonds" of its being.

The spirit proclaiming its Love for the world while inwardly despising itself deludes itself.
...
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

Can you elaborate more in regards to the top sentence? The structure, spectra of powers, and manifestations in regards to "bonds"?


The latter sentence... is that like a 'Love and Lighter' that merely talks the talks and has been "blinded by the light" in a sense? Like an overly optimistic person that still has one's head buried in the sand?

Thank you
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 3:40 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Yes, hence the reason that so few here have overcome the outer beast. This was a test for the "Mighty" of Creation, with the most powerful spirits of creation here incarnate to "throw their hats in the ring", taking a shot at "winning" one of those abandoned positions of rule left by those of the rebellion.

Imagine your worst fears and facing them all in the darkest period of your life, alone. The process varies from person to person and the intensity is reflected in the amount of accumulated "baggage" that a given spirit has collected over the ages. The timing of the event is determined by those guarding one's path, those able to "see" where your spirit is at in development and relative position in regards to the "baggage".

What happens is largely dependent upon the basis of one's fears and past. And yes, I've been through this. It was literally like being dead, after which I "arose". It's something very difficult to think back upon.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

How sad would it be for those that wish to "throw their hats in the ring" who eventually becomes like the 'tyrant' that they overthrew, like a bad 'more of the same'. Is this idea moot?

Also can you elaborate more in regards to those that "guard's one's path"? Can fellas communicate with them?

Thank you
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 3:43 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

A 'time loop' can be rectified if there is a mass population that is giving attention to a specific event or "time". This is how the matrix is sustained and fed, It basically feeds off of us. Note how long we have been reminded of Jackson's death since the original date. It works similarily to people dwelling on past personal memories as well, but to a lesser dergree.

Hope that helps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711807


Hi,

This is like saying that some trauma, does have a deja vu like component behind it, and so serves a purpose? ugh, sounds like the work of the 'sacrificers'.

Thank you.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 3:49 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

How does one truly come to "love thyself", forgive oneself? It doesn't seem this love is realized for oneself in the form of 'helping themselves to the buffet table (materialism)'.

one can look in the mirror and say,"self i sure loves you", but this doesn't seem to do it.

It does seem the case that if one cannot love oneself, one cannot really come to love others in a sense.

So how does one do this?

I guess it doesn't help that in the values that seems to be inherent in 'this kingdom' I feel like the biggest schmoe, or loser of them all.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Loving one's self is found on the journey of integrating and balancing one's "base" self centered in the first 4 chakra sets. As one brings together the below listed Chakras into harmony, a synergism takes place which centers in the Heart. Each of these areas are stressed in varied life situations in an attempt to bring each to focus and perspective in regard to the other "competing" chakras. The Love that one develops along this path is that of respect and accomplishment for one's "performance" in regards to these things. As well, in the midst of the trials one learns their limitations and respect for the limitations of others as well as empathy for the experiences of others.


Muladhara, or Root, Chakra


This deep red chakra grounds and connects us to the earth. When our root chakra is open, we feel a sense of belonging. We deserve to be here and to be happy. This chakra focuses on our needs. Basic needs like food, shelter, and water are necessary in order for this chakra to feel balanced. Beyond that, we can use food (both “real” food and all of the things that feed us that don’t come on our plate) in our lives to help us feel more present in our bodies.

Stones: Ruby, Bloodstone, Hematite

Element: Earth

Body Part(s): Adrenal Glands, associated with survival (fight or flight) instincts

Svadhisthana, or Sacral, Chakra


This calming orange wheel goes round in our lower abdomen, right below the navel. This chakra is associated with health, pleasure, feelings, and sexuality. When the sacral chakra is balanced, we feel abundant, we know that we are deserving of pleasure in all areas of our lives. It is this chakra that helps us feel free to let our emotions flow through our lives, taking them as they come and knowing that they will pass, knowing that just as emotions are fluid, so is life. When we are able to find ways to accept and express our emotions, then we are able to keep our emotional, as well as physical, bodies healthy.

Stones: Carnelian, Tiger’s Eye, Onyx

Element: Water

Body Part(s): Testicles, Ovaries, in charge of sexual development

Manipura, or Solar Plexus, Chakra


This bright yellow ball of fire heats up our personal sense of power. Located at the solar plexus, this chakra helps to center us. It is our power center where we develop our autonomy and sense of self. When this chakra is open, we feel worthy of all that life has to offer us. We realize the power we possess to create the life of our dreams is already alive inside of us. When we harness the energy of the solar plexus chakra, we find the strength to conquer our dreams and goals.

Stones: Topaz, Citrine, Amber

Element: Fire

Body Part(s): Pancreas, controls digestion

Anahata, or Heart, Chakra

Our heart center creates balance in our lives. When we move into our heart chakra, we feel love and compassion toward ourselves. Once we have learned to be kind to ourselves, then we are able to extend that kindness to others. The heart chakra allows us to live our lives from an understanding, considerate, and peaceful place. It connects us to others, our surroundings, and the universe. When we tap into our heart chakra, love radiates around us and out into the world.

Stones: Rose Quartz, Diamond, Peridot

Element: Air

Body Part(s): Thymus, helps build immune system
 Quoting: Chakras for Beginners


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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:01 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Isn't it the case that one really isn't ready to overcome the 'outer beast' until one has overcome their 'inner beast'?

Also, Dark night of the Soul... it does sound unpleasant/painful but ultimately necessary and beneficial in the end.... kind of like taking one's bad tasting medicine, like Castor oil.


How does this process occur and what happens? Have you experienced this?

I imagine getting through this is like a 'rebirth' afterwards, minus the crusty baggage.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


While I'm thinking about it, here's the song that came out just a couple months prior to my "dying". I remember hearing it and cringing. Somehow I knew "it" was coming.




God that hurt.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 4:05 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

While I'm thinking about it, here's the song that came out just a couple months prior to my "dying". I remember hearing it and cringing. Somehow I knew "it" was coming.




God that hurt.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

Does "it" come for everyone?
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:20 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Do you have any ideas regarding the myth of Prometheus bringing man 'fire', and the punishment for doing so?

Was Prometheus here a Lucifer and the flame have anything to do with twin flames, and that guy's daily punishment, was that the pit system experience?

In this story, it was depicted as a great sacrifice of sort... any idea what this is about?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


"Prometheus, in eternal punishment, is chained to a rock in the Caucasus, where his liver is eaten out daily by an eagle[4], only to be regenerated by night, which, by legend, is due to his immortality.[5]"


From this, I'm going to guess that "Prometheus" is a symbol used to denote "Satan", the mortal children of Lucifer.

"Satan" is largely incarnate through "Caucasians", hence the being "chained" to the Caucasus. The liver and regeneration meme is aimed at the continued reincarnation to be "eaten" during the day of their lives and their "regeneration" at night. As well, more will be found in the whole "liver" meme.

So, the fallen children of Lucifer then, stuck here incarnate through the Caucasians are under attack by the "Eagle" (nonfallen Watchers), their very egos eaten life after life here on Earth. And like the vampires they are, they regenerate in the Darkness and "night".

So, yeah, all of that fits to a large degree. And too, the father of Lucifer/set is "Zeus", so that fits as well. hmm

"This chakra is governed by the color yellow. This color is ruled by the Sun and corresponds to the solar plexus. It is a powerful anti-depressant. It activates motor nerves, muscles, and is used in treating skin conditions, dyspepsia and obesity. It helps the nervous system, elimination, liver, intestines, pancreas, adrenal glands, digestive disorders, gas, food allergies, liver problems, diabetes, hypoglycaemia, hypothyroid, gallstones, muscle cramps, nervous disorders, depression, exhaustion and breathing problems, lymphatic problems, dispelling fears, building bones."
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:22 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

While I'm thinking about it, here's the song that came out just a couple months prior to my "dying". I remember hearing it and cringing. Somehow I knew "it" was coming.




God that hurt.



Hi Saxon,

Does "it" come for everyone?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Not like that. This was a VERY specific task that's been seen coming for ages. I would never wish that on my worst enemy.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:30 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

That unpleasant experience.. was there any aspect of 'letting go' of anything to get past such experience?

Also does one's ego 'change' from before and after such experience?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Yes, letting go is the whole point. All the HURT, the ANGER, the BITTERNESS is played in FULL view and all the emotional stops pulled out. At that time you are to choose DIFFERENTLY than you have EVERY OTHER TIME in the past.

It's VERY difficult to say the least.

One's ego has to be WELL under control BEFORE the event, or one will FAIL miserably. This is an event that showcases ego control.

In any regard, if one's self image is not well established and stable, such an event will TOTALLY undo anything less.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:32 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Stop trying to rationalise suffering of any kind! We are in a tangled mess created by an outside force which God is in the process of freeing us from. We are more less temporarily bound in a matrix designed by highly advanced beings who don't value humanities best interests.

These beings gave us our 'so called' technologies, religions, history. We are truly living in a matrix of a false reality.

Have you noticed that all the most important documentation describing where we may have originated from have been long destroyed by either accidental fire, or destruction by order of some politician.

To us it may seem that eons of time has elapsed, whereas for God it appears as weeks. The technology we are lodged in uses time loops to set us 'back in time' sort of speak. which makes it difficult to infiltrate and put a stop to it from the outside without causing harm to the people within it.

The good news is that these time loops are crumbling. The most recent time loop attempt was with Michael Jackson's death. This was a very blatent and futile attempt. The horizon is coming! It is done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711807


INDEED IT IS!!!!!! hf


ana
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[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 4:38 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"Prometheus, in eternal punishment, is chained to a rock in the Caucasus, where his liver is eaten out daily by an eagle[4], only to be regenerated by night, which, by legend, is due to his immortality.[5]"


From this, I'm going to guess that "Prometheus" is a symbol used to denote "Satan", the mortal children of Lucifer.

"Satan" is largely incarnate through "Caucasians", hence the being "chained" to the Caucasus. The liver and regeneration meme is aimed at the continued reincarnation to be "eaten" during the day of their lives and their "regeneration" at night. As well, more will be found in the whole "liver" meme.

So, the fallen children of Lucifer then, stuck here incarnate through the Caucasians are under attack by the "Eagle" (nonfallen Watchers), their very egos eaten life after life here on Earth. And like the vampires they are, they regenerate in the Darkness and "night".

So, yeah, all of that fits to a large degree. And too, the father of Lucifer/set is "Zeus", so that fits as well. hmm

"This chakra is governed by the color yellow. This color is ruled by the Sun and corresponds to the solar plexus. It is a powerful anti-depressant. It activates motor nerves, muscles, and is used in treating skin conditions, dyspepsia and obesity. It helps the nervous system, elimination, liver, intestines, pancreas, adrenal glands, digestive disorders, gas, food allergies, liver problems, diabetes, hypoglycaemia, hypothyroid, gallstones, muscle cramps, nervous disorders, depression, exhaustion and breathing problems, lymphatic problems, dispelling fears, building bones."
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

but in this case, in regards to the myth, it was Zeus that punished Prometheus correct? What was done to get the punishment here?

Also... ego in regards to reincarnation... isn't it true that with each reincarnation, with the wiping of the slate (Tabula Rasa), that everyone has a new ego for each reincarnation?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 4:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

....
Yes, letting go is the whole point. All the HURT, the ANGER, the BITTERNESS is played in FULL view and all the emotional stops pulled out. At that time you are to choose DIFFERENTLY than you have EVERY OTHER TIME in the past.

It's VERY difficult to say the least.

One's ego has to be WELL under control BEFORE the event, or one will FAIL miserably. This is an event that showcases ego control.

In any regard, if one's self image is not well established and stable, such an event will TOTALLY undo anything less.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

Isn't this like the idea where if one 'overcomes' their little battles, they are getting ready to face the 'big one'?

Failing miserably... is this like when we sort of lose ourselves, from bitterness, anger, resentment when our 'hot button' gets pushed? and that when we can, through developing higher awareness (mindfulness) we can sort of get rid of those buttons, and ultimately when our 'big button' gets pressed, at that point we can sort of 'smile' through it?

So i guess this 'event' just occur when one 'is ready', is that it?

Thank you.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:42 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
Real Love has a "structure" as well a spectra of powers and manifestations in the many "bonds" of its being.

The spirit proclaiming its Love for the world while inwardly despising itself deludes itself.
...


Hi Saxon,

Can you elaborate more in regards to the top sentence? The structure, spectra of powers, and manifestations in regards to "bonds"?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997




The front end of this covers that quite well with PICTURES. peace

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The latter sentence... is that like a 'Love and Lighter' that merely talks the talks and has been "blinded by the light" in a sense? Like an overly optimistic person that still has one's head buried in the sand?

Thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997




Yes, one runs into those types of people quite a lot, those who ignore the Truth to "enhance" their "good" feelings. The Truly balanced spirit doesn't need to rely upon such superficial things. The balanced spirit simply Loves the Truth and Loves to Love in general, no special anything required.

But, such is all along the way of spirit development and not to be despised, but rather nurtured and encouraged.
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:47 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

How sad would it be for those that wish to "throw their hats in the ring" who eventually becomes like the 'tyrant' that they overthrew, like a bad 'more of the same'. Is this idea moot?

Also can you elaborate more in regards to those that "guard's one's path"? Can fellas communicate with them?

Thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Yes, that's always a concern, even in the Kingdom and hence the reason the "Plan" was set up the way that it was.

The people "winning" these spots have been "WRUNG OUT" spiritually in the most grueling ways imaginable. Their lives will be available for "holodeck" review by anyone interested in Heaven for instruction. These people have been put through the "ringer" and then some.

There's a reason that the coming Kingdom will NEVER end, NOR will it EVER fail as in the past.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 4:53 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

but in this case, in regards to the myth, it was Zeus that punished Prometheus correct? What was done to get the punishment here?

Also... ego in regards to reincarnation... isn't it true that with each reincarnation, with the wiping of the slate (Tabula Rasa), that everyone has a new ego for each reincarnation?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


No, actually that's the main constant with spirits, that which makes them what they EACH "are". To "kill" the ego, would be to "kill" the spirit. Such misinformation is the same as the "do the will of god" of the Christians. To "die" to self and live for "god" is to become meaningless as a spirit and person. Such person ceases to develop spiritually.

The same is True of those saying they need to "eliminate" their ego.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 4:54 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
So, the fallen children of Lucifer then, stuck here incarnate through the Caucasians are under attack by the "Eagle" (nonfallen Watchers), their very egos eaten life after life here on Earth. And like the vampires they are, they regenerate in the Darkness and "night".
...
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

It seems to me that the only one's that gets attacked in 'this kingdom' are the true prophets and peacemakers. I really do not see the 'spawn' really ever 'get theirs'. They actually seem to do quite well and rise to the top very well, like the "scum in sewage that rises to the top".

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 5:00 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
Yes, letting go is the whole point. All the HURT, the ANGER, the BITTERNESS is played in FULL view and all the emotional stops pulled out. At that time you are to choose DIFFERENTLY than you have EVERY OTHER TIME in the past.

It's VERY difficult to say the least.

One's ego has to be WELL under control BEFORE the event, or one will FAIL miserably. This is an event that showcases ego control.

In any regard, if one's self image is not well established and stable, such an event will TOTALLY undo anything less.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

Is this like the mystical idea of 'ego mastery'? how does an ego get developed to get past this event, which brings to the surface all the unpleasant 'beastlike' qualities?

Thank you.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 5:01 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Isn't this like the idea where if one 'overcomes' their little battles, they are getting ready to face the 'big one'?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997




Yes, a person is prepared for this event in an effort to maximize the likelihood of success. Kind of like a boxer training for a fight. (Theme to Rocky here peace )



Failing miserably... is this like when we sort of lose ourselves, from bitterness, anger, resentment when our 'hot button' gets pushed? and that when we can, through developing higher awareness (mindfulness) we can sort of get rid of those buttons, and ultimately when our 'big button' gets pressed, at that point we can sort of 'smile' through it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997



Failing is when one reacts the same way they have every other time in the past thereby destroying their long built Heart connections. All of this is about the "build" of someone's Heart/Family structure. Eternity is a LONG "time".



So i guess this 'event' just occur when one 'is ready', is that it?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Yes, this event takes place when one is "ready", but being "ready" in no way means one will absolutely "pass" the test, only that they "probably" will pass the test.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
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JOY
User ID: 632303
7/9/2009 5:04 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Thanx saxon you have just awnsered a million questions =) an thanx for da enlightment
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 5:11 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
So, the fallen children of Lucifer then, stuck here incarnate through the Caucasians are under attack by the "Eagle" (nonfallen Watchers), their very egos eaten life after life here on Earth. And like the vampires they are, they regenerate in the Darkness and "night".
...


Hi Saxon,

It seems to me that the only one's that gets attacked in 'this kingdom' are the true prophets and peacemakers. I really do not see the 'spawn' really ever 'get theirs'. They actually seem to do quite well and rise to the top very well, like the "scum in sewage that rises to the top".

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Yes, a VERY excellent point. This is something TOTALLY LOST on most here who have been deceived into thinking that "god takes care of those he loves".

Such is only True of the "god" Lucifer, as he does indeed look after those here advancing his campaign and kingdom.

All others here OPPOSING that kingdom are ATTACKED from every side and in the most CHEAP SHOT kinds of ways. They're not called "over comers" for no good reason.

I'm not saying that our Creator does not Love His/Her children, but the fact of the matter is that those "over coming" here MUST do such THEMSELVES, as such determines the very point you were making about those "winning" turning into the very thing they just replaced.

Were God to simply "anoint", "choose" or "help" those doing this, EVERYONE not of them would be PISSED wondering why THEY were not simply "chosen".

Needless to say, the Hearts and Minds of spirits would NEVER be subject to such NONSENSE. Rebellion would be GUARANTEED were such the method of our Creator.

Peace will be GUARANTEED due to the universal RESPECT for these people, not some ridiculous edict from our Creator. People will look upon these people in AWE, wondering HOW anyone could have DONE THAT. (notice THEY did that, not God FOR them)

Great point. hf
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720907
7/9/2009 5:14 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 5:14 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
Yes, letting go is the whole point. All the HURT, the ANGER, the BITTERNESS is played in FULL view and all the emotional stops pulled out. At that time you are to choose DIFFERENTLY than you have EVERY OTHER TIME in the past.

It's VERY difficult to say the least.

One's ego has to be WELL under control BEFORE the event, or one will FAIL miserably. This is an event that showcases ego control.

In any regard, if one's self image is not well established and stable, such an event will TOTALLY undo anything less.



Hi Saxon,

Is this like the mystical idea of 'ego mastery'? how does an ego get developed to get past this event, which brings to the surface all the unpleasant 'beastlike' qualities?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Such is accomplished through repeated cycles of throwing said spirit into the "barrel" of life so to speak. An angel with unruffled feathers is no angel at all, but rather a disaster waiting to happen.
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/9/2009 5:15 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Thanx saxon you have just awnsered a million questions =) an thanx for da enlightment
 Quoting: JOY 632303


hugs

Always glad to be of assistance. hf
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 5:31 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Such is accomplished through repeated cycles of throwing said spirit into the "barrel" of life so to speak. An angel with unruffled feathers is no angel at all, but rather a disaster waiting to happen.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

Are we like "angels with amnesia" in a sense then, or worse beings that does not fully realize what one is?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/9/2009 5:32 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Such is accomplished through repeated cycles of throwing said spirit into the "barrel" of life so to speak. An angel with unruffled feathers is no angel at all, but rather a disaster waiting to happen.



Hi Saxon,

Are we like "angels with amnesia" in a sense then, or worse beings that does not fully realize what one is?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997



Hi Saxon,

The scienticians say we are all a bunch of accidents and the religionists tells us we are all scum needing salvation (a salvation administered through their fold though).

Thank you.
Fractomatrix
User ID: 711807
7/9/2009 5:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

A great Thank You brother Saxon! You are a breath of freash air. It is very reasuring that our efforts here on the inside are not going unnoticed.

Keep up the imense effort of informing our family of what and is, has taken place. I will continue doing here what I've been assigned here to complete.

As I read your posts a great relief comes over me. Thank you again, you are a true warrior for the alliance.
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