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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Mic
User ID: 724746
7/13/2009 1:42 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

God has nothing to do with the suffering here. This nightmare called earth is our own creation. Know that you don't know anything at all.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/13/2009 2:26 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Oh and can you explain more what is "special service"?

So there were beings that we're among us (or one of us rose up to such a 'state of being' at some point in our history that performed a service that was 'special' for humankind/spirits developing here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997





Special service is about a spirit who incarnates here only to help and not for personal spiritual "gain". However, that in no way means that the amazing things they do here will not enhance their spirit. Still, they are taking huge risks to themselves coming here as this realm identifies them IMMEDIATELY. They are born into the spiritual cannon fire of this realm. Their lives are NEVER "blessed" by Lucifer, the once king of this realm.




The only kind of service that would seem 'special' for me would be the 'enlightening' kind that helps to 'uplift', and do feel there were real tough times in the past when these kinds of messages were really very sorely needed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997





There are varied varieties of "special service", anywhere from the injection of real Truth into this realm to the "rescue" mission type things as in the case of Horus and Hathor. Truth can be uplifting to mind purifying. Not all Truth feels good as MUCH Truth hurts and brings one the realizations of the prison in which they Truly reside. Such must be worked through and my who avoid those dark pathways to the Light.





To know there were such beings would be an inspiration, knowing that such existed even...that it can be done.

if messages like these helps people to help themselves for a change as to offer a real meaningful way... it seems to make sense for 'bad guys' to want to either 'erase' all knowledge of such beings, or examples, (like shove down the memory hole) or co-opt it as their own (become the 'officially licensed representative'), but with their own 'interpretation/explaination' of such a being or message?

it still would be nice to know such beings existed.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997




They exist, and their words are the testament to one's soul. Spirits inherently know the Truth of their own being and can "hear" when mature enough to do so. In any regard, the forceful injection of this level of Truth in this realm has GREAT "lifting" power, hence the reason those ruling this realm SO oppose such person.
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/13/2009 2:54 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

God has nothing to do with the suffering here. This nightmare called earth is our own creation. Know that you don't know anything at all.
 Quoting: Mic


Oh sure He/She does, they allow all of this to take place due the extreme importance of what is taking place here. There is NO other way, and yes, most involved in the higher levels of this mess "chose" such in one way or another, some more culpable than others.

Our actions are always in the confines of our Creator, and such could "squash" this mess at any time. But the "fix" of this situation is important to ALL of Creation, not just this screwed up fallen sector.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 724921
7/13/2009 5:46 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

how do you know if it isn't MORE screwed up "out there" ?

somehow, i do not believe that the grass is greener on the other side.

count your blessings.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/13/2009 7:55 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Please explain how "Resist evil and it will flee." is Luciferian.


All Hegelian Dialect is filled with Truth of varied stolen sorts, your above quote being no exception. I as well can EASILY go to your Hegelian bible and pull out MANY offensive quotes of your so called "god" Lucifer as well, just like so many other threads on this board.

Okay, but..
Please explain how "Resist evil and it will flee." is Luciferian.



There is no "but", the simple FACT is that "evil" ALWAYS tells the Truth in metered amounts to then twist such to a big LIE with just the right amount of untruths.

Therefore, ALL Luciferian books and religions have Truth within as such is a REQUIREMENT of LYING.

So, is the statement "Resist evil and it will flee." a good or evil statement?
Is it truthful or is it a lie? If it is a lie... what is the truth?



The Truth is that picture which reflects the being of our Creator in concert with His/Her Kingdom. Indeed, resisting evil sends them on their way, so, therefore evil then drapes itself in the camouflage of "holiness and goodness", tricking the many into never resisting its advance.

Why do you think the mantra of Christianity is to "open" one's Heart to Jesus/Lucifer/Set? In such ways does evil walk among the many totally undetected and WELCOMED.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

wtf
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/13/2009 7:57 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Is the statement "Resist evil and it will flee." a good or evil statement?


The Truth is that picture which reflects the being of our Creator in concert with His/Her Kingdom. Indeed, resisting evil sends them on their way, so, therefore evil then drapes itself in the camouflage of "holiness and goodness", tricking the many into never resisting its advance.

Why do you think the mantra of Christianity is to "open" one's Heart to Jesus/Lucifer/Set? In such ways does evil walk among the many totally undetected and WELCOMED.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/13/2009 7:59 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

In a great many words
he avoids an answer
and says nothing.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/13/2009 8:02 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 12:06 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

how do you know if it isn't MORE screwed up "out there" ?

somehow, i do not believe that the grass is greener on the other side.

count your blessings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 724921


Believe what you like, it's your "Right".

However, it is not your right to insult me with your "count your blessings" cheap shot.
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 12:08 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

In a great many words
he avoids an answer
and says nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


To a child, the greatest of derivations are but the ranting ramblings of old men.

Clearly you are WAY out of your league. Hopefully someone else has benefited from your lack of understanding.
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 12:09 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


So this is your house of Whore-ship I see. You are not alone in your confusion.
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LehoMonuka
User ID: 703671
7/14/2009 12:18 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Namaste Sax,
have you noticed that the closer we get to the transformation,
the stronger the opposition to the truth becomes more apparent.....
from the 7th until the "now", I have have no doubt,
we're about to "go thru" some strange changes
Keep fighting the good fight my bro.
we'll soon meet one another at the wrap party
Namaste
leho
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 1:17 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote




So this is your house of Whore-ship I see. You are not alone in your confusion.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

You don't see. I'm not confused.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 1:54 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Namaste Sax,
have you noticed that the closer we get to the transformation,
the stronger the opposition to the truth becomes more apparent.....
from the 7th until the "now", I have have no doubt,
we're about to "go thru" some strange changes
Keep fighting the good fight my bro.
we'll soon meet one another at the wrap party
Namaste
leho
 Quoting: LehoMonuka


hugs
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 1:55 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote




So this is your house of Whore-ship I see. You are not alone in your confusion.

You don't see. I'm not confused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


I wish that were True.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 2:11 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You call True false and false true.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 2:15 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You call True false and false true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


That's actually a comforting judgment coming from someone as brainwashed as yourself. hf
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 2:20 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Of course, I'm brainwashed, I'm terrible, I suck, I'm a coward.

You are so good.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 2:21 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Of course, I'm brainwashed, I'm terrible, I suck, I'm a coward.

You are so good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725
Really? hmm
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 2:23 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You should be a case study.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/14/2009 2:23 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You call True false and false true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


Hi there,

Ahem, but it seems this can be said for both yourself and Saxon, heck everybody, including myself... clearly there is confusion, as there is a huge chasm of lack of understanding.. please be patient, and keep searching and tempering your own truth brother or sister.

do feel that when we have truly realized this thing called 'TRUTH' i bet you there will be no confusion whatsoever.

total understanding, and i am afraid, that those that will not realize this for oneself, from lack of personal seeking (failing inner litmus test), one may miss out on the 'understanding exemplified as UNITY'....miss the boat so to speak.

anything can be said, tossed out, but it is entirely up to oneself what gets in to their core belief systems.

this "Father", our Creator, one's "SOURCE of BEING"...blessed us with a mind...to find our own Truth that will lead back to the Father. it does take courage to open one's mind. and it does take mindful to guard, or discern for oneself, what is Truth or fallacy.

it feels that just by being here, we are all "prodigal Sons" in a sense, until we learn how to return to the Father.

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 2:28 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Jesus Christ is TRUTH.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 2:30 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You should be a case study.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


You already ARE the "case study". You just fail to realize such yet. hf
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 2:31 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Jesus Christ is TRUTH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


Jesus Christ is a MYTH, FAR from being "TRUTH".
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 702997
7/14/2009 2:32 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
it feels that just by being here, we are all "prodigal Sons" in a sense, until we learn how to return to the Father.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


heck, or if people even want to return back to our "Father", closer to home, in a sense...

looking at it from my own eyes, or from my own perspective, what i see 'out there' does not seem to see any 'value' in this..

just doing what one was told, what our parents were told, you get the gist... when you look at our history and the state of the world now, chocked full of suffering, clearly something has not changed.. we, all of us, may be ready to get our understanding, 'get our Learn on', towards higher and greater things.

whichever what mystical sources or ideas one looks at, it pretty much states that on one's journey, only oneself can take take that journey. to realize things for oneself.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 2:33 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You call True false and false true.


Hi there,

Ahem, but it seems this can be said for both yourself and Saxon, heck everybody, including myself... clearly there is confusion, as there is a huge chasm of lack of understanding.. please be patient, and keep searching and tempering your own truth brother or sister.

do feel that when we have truly realized this thing called 'TRUTH' i bet you there will be no confusion whatsoever.

total understanding, and i am afraid, that those that will not realize this for oneself, from lack of personal seeking (failing inner litmus test), one may miss out on the 'understanding exemplified as UNITY'....miss the boat so to speak.

anything can be said, tossed out, but it is entirely up to oneself what gets in to their core belief systems.

this "Father", our Creator, one's "SOURCE of BEING"...blessed us with a mind...to find our own Truth that will lead back to the Father. it does take courage to open one's mind. and it does take mindful to guard, or discern for oneself, what is Truth or fallacy.

it feels that just by being here, we are all "prodigal Sons" in a sense, until we learn how to return to the Father.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 702997


Indeed, ALL prodigal sons, ALL returning HOME!!! hf
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7/14/2009 2:34 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

threadreal
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 2:34 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Jesus Christ is TRUTH.


Jesus Christ is a MYTH, FAR from being "TRUTH".
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

You call True false and false true.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/14/2009 2:38 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

threadreal
 Quoting: coolhandluke74


Oh COME on CHL, don't be like that!!! lol

Really, the vid was funny!

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/14/2009 2:40 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

1John2:22


And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1John4:3


For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

2John1:7
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725
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