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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/16/2009 2:12 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Your not answering is habitual.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


your not saying anything meaningful is habitual as well.
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/16/2009 2:15 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Give ear to my words, O Lord, consider my meditation. Give heed to the voice of my cry, My King and my God, for to You I will pray. My voice You shall hear in the morning, O Lord; In the morning I will direct it to You, and I will look up. For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; you hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. But as for me I will come into Your house in the multitude of Your mercy; in fear of You I will worship toward Your holy temple. Lead me O Lord, in Your righteousness because of my enemies; make Your way straight before my face. For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is destruction; their throat is an open tomb; they flatter with their tongue. Pronounce them guilty, O God! Let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions, for they have rebelled against You. But let all those rejoice who put their trust in You; let them ever shout for joy, because You defend them; let those also who love Your name be joyful in You. For You, O Lord, will bless the righteous; with favor You will surround him as with a shield.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861


sockpuppet

Kiss your sad little pathetic "god" Lucifer/Jesus/Set GOODBYE!!! hf
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/16/2009 2:18 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

hummbird Nice post 725861.

Saxon (777) reminds me of the smart a** in this story. Moving On Up!...
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


Better a Smart Ass than a Dumb Ass like 9teen.47™

RA RA Coward, post some more cut and paste Luciferian nonsense sure to "vanquish" the enemies of your so called "god" Lucifer!! rolleyes
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/16/2009 2:20 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

post number 1234 hf
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/16/2009 2:39 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

view number 11200 hf

Last Edited by Saxon (777) on 7/16/2009 at 2:39 PM
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725861
7/17/2009 2:26 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Give ear to my words, O Lord, consider my meditation. Give heed to the voice of my cry, My King and my God, for to You I will pray. My voice You shall hear in the morning, O Lord; In the morning I will direct it to You, and I will look up. For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; you hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. But as for me I will come into Your house in the multitude of Your mercy; in fear of You I will worship toward Your holy temple. Lead me O Lord, in Your righteousness because of my enemies; make Your way straight before my face. For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is destruction; their throat is an open tomb; they flatter with their tongue. Pronounce them guilty, O God! Let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions, for they have rebelled against You. But let all those rejoice who put their trust in You; let them ever shout for joy, because You defend them; let those also who love Your name be joyful in You. For You, O Lord, will bless the righteous; with favor You will surround him as with a shield.


sockpuppet

Kiss your sad little pathetic "god" Lucifer/Jesus/Set GOODBYE!!! hf
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

The Call of Wisdom: "Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded, because you disdained all my counsel, and would have none of my reproof, I also will laugh at your calamity. I will mock when your terror comes, when your terror comes like a storm, and your destruction comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you. Then they will call on me, but I will not answer. They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me. Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord, they would have none of my counsel and despised all my reproof. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, and be filled to the full with their own fancies. For the waywardness of the simple will slay them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them. But whoever listens to me will dwell safely, and will be secure, without fear of evil."
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
7/17/2009 9:39 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Well, we all know too well, from our own history even, that when one does not adhere to the codes and the laws then get burned...

this is tired of the burnings in general now...

Hey Saxon can you take a look at this video and tell me what you think?


[link to www.youtube.com]

This song seems to describe the "burning mode=on". Must we burn a village to save it, do the burning ourselves?
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/17/2009 1:25 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Give ear to my words, O Lord, consider my meditation. Give heed to the voice of my cry, My King and my God, for to You I will pray. My voice You shall hear in the morning, O Lord; In the morning I will direct it to You, and I will look up. For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; you hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. But as for me I will come into Your house in the multitude of Your mercy; in fear of You I will worship toward Your holy temple. Lead me O Lord, in Your righteousness because of my enemies; make Your way straight before my face. For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is destruction; their throat is an open tomb; they flatter with their tongue. Pronounce them guilty, O God! Let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions, for they have rebelled against You. But let all those rejoice who put their trust in You; let them ever shout for joy, because You defend them; let those also who love Your name be joyful in You. For You, O Lord, will bless the righteous; with favor You will surround him as with a shield.


sockpuppet

Kiss your sad little pathetic "god" Lucifer/Jesus/Set GOODBYE!!! hf

The Call of Wisdom: "Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded, because you disdained all my counsel, and would have none of my reproof, I also will laugh at your calamity. I will mock when your terror comes, when your terror comes like a storm, and your destruction comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you. Then they will call on me, but I will not answer. They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me. Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord, they would have none of my counsel and despised all my reproof. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, and be filled to the full with their own fancies. For the waywardness of the simple will slay them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them. But whoever listens to me will dwell safely, and will be secure, without fear of evil."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861





CLEARLY, the so called "god" talking above is LUCIFER, and the "security" for one's "listening to his council" (i.e. kissing his ass and doing his "will") is that HE will not HIMSELF perform EVIL against the one kissing his ass.

All those opposing this ASS HOLE will be hounded by "god" and his minions to the ends of this earth.

What, you honestly imagined "God" to be running things here in LUCIFERLAND? rolleyes
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/17/2009 2:35 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Well, we all know too well, from our own history even, that when one does not adhere to the codes and the laws then get burned...

this is tired of the burnings in general now...

Hey Saxon can you take a look at this video and tell me what you think?


[link to www.youtube.com]

This song seems to describe the "burning mode=on". Must we burn a village to save it, do the burning ourselves?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821


The "god" being described below is Lucifer/Set. The "cross" is what they use to "crucify" anyone who gets in the way of the "will" of their "god" Lucifer/Set.


(curly m.c.)
.
Long ago, for many years
White men came in the name of god
They took their land, they took their lives
A new age has just begun
.
They lost their gods, they lost their smile
They cried for help for the last time.
Liberty was turning into chains
But all the white men said
That's the cross of changes
.
In the name of God - the fight for gold
These were the changes.
Tell me - is it right - in the name of god
These kind of changes ?
.
They tried to fight for liberty
Without a chance in hell, they gave up.
White men won in the name of god
With the cross as alibi
.
There's no God who ever tried
To change the world in this way.
For the ones who abuse his name
There'll be no chance to escape
On judgement day
.
In the name of God - the fight for gold
These were the changes.
Tell me - is it right - in the name of god
These kind of changes ?
.
Tell me why, tell me why, tell why
The white men said:
That's the cross of changes ?
.
Tell me why, tell me why, tell why,
In the name of god
These kind of changes.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 725861
7/17/2009 2:54 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Give ear to my words, O Lord, consider my meditation. Give heed to the voice of my cry, My King and my God, for to You I will pray. My voice You shall hear in the morning, O Lord; In the morning I will direct it to You, and I will look up. For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight; you hate all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; the Lord abhors the bloodthirsty and deceitful man. But as for me I will come into Your house in the multitude of Your mercy; in fear of You I will worship toward Your holy temple. Lead me O Lord, in Your righteousness because of my enemies; make Your way straight before my face. For there is no faithfulness in their mouth; their inward part is destruction; their throat is an open tomb; they flatter with their tongue. Pronounce them guilty, O God! Let them fall by their own counsels; cast them out in the multitude of their transgressions, for they have rebelled against You. But let all those rejoice who put their trust in You; let them ever shout for joy, because You defend them; let those also who love Your name be joyful in You. For You, O Lord, will bless the righteous; with favor You will surround him as with a shield.


sockpuppet

Kiss your sad little pathetic "god" Lucifer/Jesus/Set GOODBYE!!! hf

The Call of Wisdom: "Because I have called and you refused, I have stretched out my hand and no one regarded, because you disdained all my counsel, and would have none of my reproof, I also will laugh at your calamity. I will mock when your terror comes, when your terror comes like a storm, and your destruction comes like a whirlwind, when distress and anguish come upon you. Then they will call on me, but I will not answer. They will seek me diligently, but they will not find me. Because they hated knowledge and did not choose the fear of the Lord, they would have none of my counsel and despised all my reproof. Therefore they shall eat the fruit of their own way, and be filled to the full with their own fancies. For the waywardness of the simple will slay them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them. But whoever listens to me will dwell safely, and will be secure, without fear of evil."





CLEARLY, the so called "god" talking above is LUCIFER, and the "security" for one's "listening to his council" (i.e. kissing his ass and doing his "will") is that HE will not HIMSELF perform EVIL against the one kissing his ass.

All those opposing this ASS HOLE will be hounded by "god" and his minions to the ends of this earth.

What, you honestly imagined "God" to be running things here in LUCIFERLAND? rolleyes
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

God has allowed Satan to be prince of this world temporarily until the return of Christ. In addition, one-third of the angels are also in rebellion against God. This is one of the reasons why there is so much trouble in the world. As Satan tempted Christ with half-truths in the wilderness, so also they deceive people with what Scripture refers to as "doctrines of demons." As these angels can masquerade as angels of light, people can be easily seduced by them. They are much more powerful than humans.
un
User ID: 709696
7/17/2009 3:27 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Cyrus....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 728667
7/18/2009 11:04 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

this thread makes me suffer.

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/18/2009 1:57 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

God has allowed Satan to be prince of this world temporarily until the return of Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861




Satan is the collective mortal children of Lucifer, their Father. In that sense, they are "princes" and "princesses" of this world, the very children of TPTW. There is no person called "the Christ", that's the made up story of Satan/Lucifer. However, the One who brings the Christ standard of Love to reality here exemplifies the being of such Love. His return has nothing to do with the made up Jesus the Christ story.



In addition, one-third of the angels are also in rebellion against God. This is one of the reasons why there is so much trouble in the world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861




Well, the "hell" of that is that it's not just one third of the "angels" but WHICH angels comprise that third. Virtually ALL of the Arch Angels "fell" which means that a large portion of the "fallen" are from the more powerful ranks of angels. However, that's not the reason there is so much trouble in this world in the way you say, as the power of the unfallen FAR exceeds the lesser power of the fallen.

Still, Lucifer is/was the KING of this realm until very recently, having absolutely nothing to do with the mythical Jesus the Christ story. That story was simply made in an attempt to steal the thunder from the One they knew would be coming. They set about almost 2000 years ago to make SURE that their story would be WELL embedded into the mass psyche/consciousness upon his arrival.



As Satan tempted Christ with half-truths in the wilderness, so also they deceive people with what Scripture refers to as "doctrines of demons."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861




Yes, they do so in their well crafted Mystic Occult book called the "Bible".



As these angels can masquerade as angels of light, people can be easily seduced by them. They are much more powerful than humans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 725861




Yes, they masquerade as "Jesus", "Mary", "Mary Magdalene" etc etc etc adnauseum, angels of "light", making sure that people stay on their knees before them, allowing them to STEAL their ethereal power. That is the PRIMARY reason that SO much emphasis is placed on "opening one's Heart to Jesus". In so doing, the unsuspecting are opening themselves up demonic possession.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 12:38 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Your not answering is habitual.


your not saying anything meaningful is habitual as well.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

Is insult always necessary?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 12:48 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:34-37
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/19/2009 1:14 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Your not answering is habitual.


your not saying anything meaningful is habitual as well.

Is insult always necessary?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


Stating FACT is not "insult". Anyone reading your sad trolling of everything I say can easily see that, unless their Christian of course.

I'm sure to the other brainwashed like yourself, you're a "warrior for christ". rolleyes
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Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/19/2009 1:16 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:34-37
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


Yes, for out of your mouth spews the nastiness of your "god" Lucifer/Jesus/Set.

The hateful shit of your sad little "god" Lucifer/Jesus/Set is going to be buried FOREVER along with his sad little nasty ass.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 1:26 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Your not answering is habitual.


your not saying anything meaningful is habitual as well.

Is insult always necessary?



Stating FACT is not "insult". Anyone reading your sad trolling of everything I say can easily see that, unless their Christian of course.

I'm sure to the other brainwashed like yourself, you're a "warrior for christ". rolleyes
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

Our record shows one thing- and that is that you cannot answer capable opposition.

Period.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 1:29 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

No less then ten times now,
our dialogues have concluded in identical manners.

And that is:
You repeatedly refuse to give direct answers
to my simple, honest and direct questions.

And then, every single time,
you personally insult, accuse, and attack,
and think CAPITALIZATION and claims of fact
make your case stronger and more persuasive.
That is what you do.

Can you you even once demonstrate that you do not respond the same way?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 1:30 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Because, of course,

you are a genius.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 1:31 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

mouth spews the nastiness of "god" Lucifer hateful shit sad little "god" Lucifer sad little nasty ass.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 1:31 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:34-37
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 703347
7/19/2009 1:35 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

let assume all the subjects and issues as a compliment as introspective
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 1:36 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

if his majesty saxon says so...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
7/19/2009 9:50 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hey fellas (and the ladies).

I think it seems true that it is easy to see darkness/evil in another.. do feel it is the Truth we have a hard time seeing this same quality in ourselves..

Consider the parable regarding the folly of focusing on the 'speck' in thy neighbor's eye.....

in my opinion, i haven't seen any honest opposition, but rather the usual 'hostile baiting' veiled in sincerity.

there really is an amazing quality in sincerity, but don't really see that kind of expression often.

just wanted to toss out, clean your own house and everything else will follow.

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
7/19/2009 9:57 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...

just wanted to toss out, clean your own house and everything else will follow.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821



Sorry that was poor word choice.

I wanted to sincerely share with respect the importance of cleaning one's own house and that everything else from that will follow, mind the 'plank' that obscures one's own eyes first.

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 729491
7/19/2009 1:25 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
7/19/2009 1:57 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

er.. how about get one's own house in order instead? ;)

all those interesting fellas and ladies seemed to say that only one can show oneself because only oneself can take the journey for oneself, or something like that. ;)

i guess it sort of is true that it is one's choice whether to let the scum, as in sewage, rise to the top from oneself...or perhaps maybe the cream, as in milk, rise to the top for a change. :)
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
7/19/2009 2:09 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

No less then ten times now,
our dialogues have concluded in identical manners.

And that is:
You repeatedly refuse to give direct answers
to my simple, honest and direct questions.

And then, every single time,
you personally insult, accuse, and attack,
and think CAPITALIZATION and claims of fact
make your case stronger and more persuasive.
That is what you do.

Can you you even once demonstrate that you do not respond the same way?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 720725


So your endless meaningless accusations say, ALWAYS never asking said question that you imagine to be SO important.

And of course, then you will ask a personal question that is totally irrelevant to anything being discussed to then say:

"SEE, IT IS AS I SAY, SAXON WILL NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS!!!"

So, Coward 720725, are you still beating your wife? Inquiring minds want to know!! hmm


ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!!
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 720725
7/19/2009 2:10 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

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