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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Uriel
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6/6/2009 3:46 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

The Bible is full of passages about the coming of the Christ specialy the book of Isaias is full of prophecies in reference to Him, how do you account for that?

Last Edited by Uriel on 6/6/2009 at 3:48 AM
By fire gold is purified, so is love, by patience.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beggining and the end, says the Lord God, who Is and who Was and who is coming, the Almighty.
Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 3:57 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

When talking about the "aids" of Lucifer, I am talking about demons.


You could say that they are the group of lower vibrational entities who wilfully lowered their vibrations for the purpose of doing their job. They are enlightened, in the know, they know what they are doing and that they are assisting god.
...
...
Yes, some are getting angry at humans.

Do you know why?
No you don't.

It's because most humans believe, spread and talk shit about them being bad and being against god... when they are actually bleeding their ass doing all the dirty low vibrational job for them.



It's as if you told the parents of a child who has been kidnapped that you believe that in fact, they killed their child. Now imagine if someone important told this complete bullshit about those parents on the national TV. Their frustration would probably make them want this person's death or something like that, more than if it had been someone that nobody knows who told that same bullshit to some other nobodys.


So yeah, some are getting angry. Oh, maybe are they the fallen ones people keep talking about? Someone told me something someday that not necessarily made sense, but that still got me thinking. He said "Satan is Lucifer's ego".





Some other are just humans like us who fell into lower vibrations. They are mostly the ones who are haunting houses, annoying people. Indeed, some are more powerful than others... like in everything else. They are not enlightened and they don't know what they're doing. They are the ones who are the most likely to hurt people, since they are not doing god's will, not being in the know.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 680773
6/6/2009 4:00 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why does everyone think god is a male?

His
Him
He
etc.. etc...
Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:03 AM
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you yourself are under a generational curse from God


[...]



I am quite aware that many of you on this thread will scoff at the words of us Christians. But let me tell you this. If you die in your sins you really have no idea of how much anguish is in store for you.
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


LOL so God curses?

What an awful god you have, a god that doesn't have our well-being at heart.




Your understanding of reality sucks hard and makes as much sense as a pink invisible unicorn. That's sad.




Let me tell you this. If you cannot see that sufferings are good for you, you are retarded.
Let me tell you another thing. You won't be able to convince anyone who understands that sufferings are good, that sufferings are bad. They will just see how much clueless you are and that everything else you spew is most likely as much clueless.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
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Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:05 AM
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They will just see how much clueless you are and that everything else you spew is most likely as much clueless.
 Quoting: Whee! 8D (Quebec)



Because you cannot undo knowledge recognized over ignorance.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
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6/6/2009 4:07 AM
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Why does everyone think god is a male?

His
Him
He
etc.. etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680773


nikstory 680773, That's because the Lord refers to Himself and our Father as male in the bible.



Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage and be kind to hungry children.
Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:08 AM
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Why does everyone think god is a male?

His
Him
He
etc.. etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680773

In French, we use masculine pronouns when talking about someone of undetermined gender or of a group of people of mixed gender.


I was told that there is no such a thing in English as "using the masculine pronoun by default"
And I think that "it" is used for inanimate things so...


So really, I don't know.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
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Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:10 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why does everyone think god is a male?

His
Him
He
etc.. etc...


nikstory 680773, That's because the Lord refers to Himself and our Father as male in the bible.



Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
 Quoting: 9teen.47™



Had our history been based on matriarchal systems, it would have been the opposite.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
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Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:18 AM
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bad use of freewill


Careless, reckless, thoughtless abuse of free will!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 689266



Yeah right so freewill causes :


Meteorite strikes
Hurricanes
Accidents
Illnesses
etc.



Riiiiight.



Sense you make not.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
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Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:29 AM
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There is huge problem with your explanation.

When you live your kid at a daycare center you don't expect the people there to torture/rape/kill your kid as a part of the "experience"...no sane human would allow that to happen to his kids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 579266


Sorry but yes. Yes those things happen for the sake of gaining experience. The trick here is just that our consciousness of things while embodied and our consciousness of things while not embodied is very different.

What's telling you that it's too harsh to be for the sake of gaining experience is your mind and the fact that you misunderstand reality.
Reality is that people's body and mind are being raped, killed, tortured, while their soul is being enriched. There is simply nothing that can be fatal to your soul so absolutely everything that happen here serve as learning purposes.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!]
Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 4:47 AM
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Peter admonished, "beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal among you, which comes upon you for your testing, as though some strange thing were happening to you, but to the degree that you share the sufferings of CHRIST, keep on rejoicing, so that also at the revelation in HIS Glory you may rejoice with exaltations" 1st Peter 4: 12-13
 Quoting: Sandpiper 696040



They changed the word "learning" for "testing" to be able to put some fear bullshit in the Bible.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!]
Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 5:03 AM
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Contrary to what the Bible and multitudes of other books say, you are NOT here to "resist" the "flesh", but rather INTEGRATE to the flesh, as these mortal bodies are PRACTICE bodies to the immortal bodies. Immortal bodies have WAY more pleasure giving capacity than do these mortal bodies, and because of this the practice here is GREATLY needed.

Those of you looking to skip the school of life here with celibacy, or killing your ego or killing your desires etc are WAY WAY WAY off target as by doing such you are guaranteeing your STAYING here, not leaving.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Okay I know now what you didn't get yet.

I assure you, it won't be a big deal to understand for you and once you'll get it, the Buddhist teachings about desires and attachments will fit in your picture as something right.


May I suggest you a read : The constancy of the wise men by Seneca the Young.

And hum... to explain it shortly

Detachment and end of desires come by themselves when you get that you won't get anything by being attached to things and by desiring things. You cannot wilfully kill your attachments nor kill your desires, doing so would be to attach yourself to attachment and desire to not have any desire.


Meditation is the way to get to that point where you are completely in the now, conscious of the now and of yourself. It's a state called "fullness".

When you are in that state of fullness, I assure you that no desire nor any attachment will be able to stick to you.



There is that Osho Zen Tarot card that explains it so well... I wish I could find it.


*Edit*
Awww! There it is!
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[link to www.osho.com]

Turning inwards is not a turning at all. Going inwards is not a going at all. Turning inwards simply means that you have been running after this desire and that, and you have been running and running and you have been coming again and again to frustration.That each desire brings misery, that there is no fulfillment through desire. That you never reach anywhere, that contentment is impossible. Seeing this truth, that running after desires takes you nowhere, you stop. Not that you make any effort to stop. If you make any effort to stop it is again running, in a subtle way. You are still desiring--maybe now it is desirelessness that you desire. If you are making an effort to go in, you are still going out. Any effort can only take you out, outwards. All journeys are outward journeys, there is no inward journey. How can you journey inwards? You are already there, there is no point in going. When going stops, journeying disappears; when desiring is no more clouding your mind, you are in. This is called turning in. But it is not a turning at all, it is simply not going out.

Last Edited by Whee! 8D (Quebec) on 6/6/2009 at 5:16 AM
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696248
6/6/2009 5:07 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

AC 589291, your answer is beautifully written.

I think there is support for it in the Bible, too.

think of the story of Abraham and Isaac.

God ORDERED the suffering there, in fact. Such a scary story it is, too.

I will find the Bible reference in a minute.

But, basically, God told Abraham to sacrifice his little boy, Isaac, up on a hill.

Abraham, loving God, began to do it. And then at the last minute, God allowed him to substitute a sheep.

The support for your idea is that---Abraham suffered, at God's hand, but at the end, the suffering was removed (also by God).

This shows that God is All-Powerful.


Our Creator did no such thing. Many of us FREELY CHOSE this pathetic existence at the beginning of time, listening to the "beautiful teachings" of Lucifer et al.

Our Creator never demands any such thing. You're confusing our Creator with Lucifer just as those who wrote your Bible hoped and planned.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

bump
Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2009 5:10 AM
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for saxon(777) for truth .thank you . hf hf hf
rken
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6/6/2009 5:46 AM
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Op thats not the way I see it.

Pain and suffering are a result of separation and forgetfulness of your real self. Pain and suffering are the catalist which pushes you back toward the discover of your true self.

When you suffer enough pain you start looking for answers in the right places. Not outside of yourself.

I find the opposite of what you have stated to actually be true. The closer one comes to an understanding of the true self the less suffering there is. And understanding usually happens with older souls, not young ones. Peace.
9teen.47™ Subscriber
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6/6/2009 5:48 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Had our history been based on matriarchal systems, it would have been the opposite.
 Quoting: Whee! 8D (Quebec)


maximc Yeah well a fictitious history based upon matriarchal systems has nothing to do with it.



Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:


This picture from the Denver Airport Masonic death murals shows how some people fancy it to be.

leodevil

And this picture shows how it is all going to end up...

armageddon
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

Psa 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, [and] all the nations that forget God.

STOCK UP NOW. You should have at least 6 months worth of basics for every member of your household. Stay away from crowds when trouble starts, do not forget water storage and be kind to hungry children.
Darza
User ID: 358200
6/6/2009 6:05 AM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

There is suffering, suffering has a cause, this cause can be dissolved, there is a path leading to this end of suffering.

Peace
Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 6:34 AM
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And this picture shows how it is all going to end up...

armageddon
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


You must seriously feel low and shitty to feel the need to instill fear in each and every one of your posts with your tracts and all your laughable and funny stock.



Is it because you are jealous of all the people who can live free, happy and fearlessly in the most complete peace of mind because they are not believing the same thing as you do that you try to make them comply, using fear, to the same unfree, unhappy and fearful life that you live to ensure that you won't go to hell?

Or are you conscious that you may find out after your death that you have been wrong and that you have wasted your life, so you are trying to make other people waste their life too so you will feel less shitty and stupid to have wasted your life over this?



I'm trying to get why you try so much to convert free and fearless people to slave and fearful people.
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
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Whee! 8D (Quebec) Subscriber
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6/6/2009 6:44 AM
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Op thats not the way I see it.

Pain and suffering are a result of separation and forgetfulness of your real self. Pain and suffering are the catalist which pushes you back toward the discover of your true self.

When you suffer enough pain you start looking for answers in the right places. Not outside of yourself.

I find the opposite of what you have stated to actually be true. The closer one comes to an understanding of the true self the less suffering there is. And understanding usually happens with older souls, not young ones. Peace.
 Quoting: rken 696196



True... safe that it's not the opposite of what Saxon said.

I don't know if you both see how what you both say all fit in each other's picture...



Well, this separation and forgetfulness you are talking about is forced upon us when we incarnate by guess who and guess how, because we want to learn.


This separation and forgetfulness is the thing I think Saxon doesn't get yet and needs to integrate to his picture.

On the other hand, I think that what you need to understand is that without this learning terrain, forgetting and being separated from our own self would not be possible. :)
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558

The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!]
Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2009 8:56 AM
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I am taking a journey through the wilderness when I come across a fellow traveler who is suffering from exposure, hunger and thirst. I offer this stranger of what I have to provide - shelter, food and drink. The pride of the stranger gets in the way and refuses my assistance insisting on doing it all himself! He goes on his, way. The next day I come across the same stranger a little more worse for wear, again I offer assistance and again it is refused, he goes on his way. The next day I come across the same stranger, this time he is dead!

Who's to blame?

His salvation was within his grasp but for his own misguided reasons he rejected it!

God's blessings flow without ceasing and are available 24/7 to all who will reach out and grasp them. Does this mean that if we do, we won't suffer? In this life we will always experience some suffering because it is the nature of this existence but we also have access to unlimited blessing, we have but to swallow our pride and reach out. Only then will we be at peace with the suffering that this life brings.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 689266



Who is to blame? Ultimately the Being that created the man with pride.

I do believe people make bad choices but you cannot discount that all choices are made as a product of our genetic make-up, upbringing and experiences, so ultimately man, him/herself, should not be held 'eternally' accountable when there are factors out of our control.

I don't believe suffering is necessary to improve one's self - jmo.

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Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2009 10:23 AM
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Just to rise over the din of confusion on the other related thread, I'll post the REAL answers to this question here.


As with any good parent, the child is allowed to experience things on their own with the parent lending assistance at minimal times as to not spoil the child.

As well, suffering is the great "hammer" in the "forge" of Mother Earths spirit development school. And much like a weight training facility, some of the mature spirits can lift heavy weights (endure much suffering) while other more immature newbie spirits get crushed by the lightest of weights.

All suffering is countered with good times and things in the proportion needed for any given spirit so as not to totally crush them from the positive gains of this existence.

Think of Mother Earth as a spirit forge, where the newbie spirits are the "raw materials" of the "production line" with and end product of Swords. First the "ore" is "Refined" and then melted, poured, pounded, quenched and reheated.....repeat.

In such do these lives here form the spirits of the Children of God.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,


This idea reminds me of the notion that each of us, on some level, came 'equipped' by our Creator to overcome various forms of our limitations. Is this along those lines?

Thank you.
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6/6/2009 10:25 AM
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6/6/2009 10:28 AM
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Anonymous Coward
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6/6/2009 10:29 AM
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Why does everyone think god is a male?

His
Him
He
etc.. etc...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680773



Why does everyone think God causes our suffering? Suffering is caused by our beleif that we are separate.
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6/6/2009 10:29 AM
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6/6/2009 10:30 AM
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