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Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL Answer

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Uriel
User ID: 512435
6/6/2009 3:51 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

I'm trying to get why you try so much to convert free and fearless people to slave and fearful people.


Sx3041p blackcat Goodgreef Whee! 8D (Quebec) you really are a two faced son of a bitch aren't you. You sit their talking about how it is OK to deliberately inflict suffering upon children and the rest of the population and then have the nerve to turn round and accuse me of doing exactly what you are doing.

However as it happens yes I am trying to install a little healthy fear into people. But in my case with the intention of helping them to avoid pain, not to justify your perverted pleasure in dishing it out.

In the same way that any decent person would warn children not to go skating on thin ice, or against playing on the railroad tracks.


Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [his commandments]: his praise endureth for ever
 Quoting: 9teen.47™


1947, you make good Biblical quotes but you distract me too much with those Asian girls hmm..as im a bit weak when it comes to women and my span of attention becomes defective
By fire gold is purified, so is love, by patience.
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beggining and the end, says the Lord God, who Is and who Was and who is coming, the Almighty.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696564
6/6/2009 3:55 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You can only grow in character thru suffering.

Think of the people you know who have an easy life, enough money, no problems, good looks, a great marriage....

You think they are so lucky?

Not really.

They are just "simple" - they cannot take any pressure, so they are not given it.

The ones who suffer a lot, they are the ones with the potential to grow.

If you think the world is just what we see here on earth, there there is no way you will ever understand suffering. This world, and our experiences in it, and how we react, is the gateway to the next world. Thru suffering and growing, (and dying) we make it to a better place.

Believe it, or else you will spend a lifetime of suffering about your suffering. Once you understand that suffering is a blessing in disguise, it won't bother you so much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 695824


I TOTALLY, TOTALLY AGREE!!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696564
6/6/2009 4:22 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

I accidently started a new thread called 'poem' meant to post it here, cuz it fits the topic... don't want to retype it but, check it out - its a great poem. I don't know who the author is.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 696598
6/6/2009 4:29 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

No, the REAL answer is this:

The is no god other than consciousness. This is all a dreamlike reality - and suffering is just a nightmare. It all disappears when we wake up.

Stop your childish notions of god/good and evil/judgments and religion.

Explore the nature of consciousness and you will have ALL of your answers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696498


Finally! Someone with intelligence has the answer! Yes!
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:29 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

for saxon(777) for truth .thank you . hf hf hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696248


hugs
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:31 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Op thats not the way I see it.

Pain and suffering are a result of separation and forgetfulness of your real self. Pain and suffering are the catalist which pushes you back toward the discover of your true self.

When you suffer enough pain you start looking for answers in the right places. Not outside of yourself.

I find the opposite of what you have stated to actually be true. The closer one comes to an understanding of the true self the less suffering there is. And understanding usually happens with older souls, not young ones. Peace.
 Quoting: rken 696196


Such could never be True, as what you postulate says that the "cake walk" people of the world are the most mature spirits here, something that is patently FALSE through simple observation.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:34 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

True... safe that it's not the opposite of what Saxon said.

I don't know if you both see how what you both say all fit in each other's picture...



Well, this separation and forgetfulness you are talking about is forced upon us when we incarnate by guess who and guess how, because we want to learn.


This separation and forgetfulness is the thing I think Saxon doesn't get yet and needs to integrate to his picture.

On the other hand, I think that what you need to understand is that without this learning terrain, forgetting and being separated from our own self would not be possible. :)
 Quoting: Whee! 8D (Quebec)


Nope, such has always been a part of my picture and in no way changes anything I've stated. Forgetting is needed to bring people into situations which memory would greatly hamper.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:39 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,


This idea reminds me of the notion that each of us, on some level, came 'equipped' by our Creator to overcome various forms of our limitations. Is this along those lines?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821


That's True to a point, but your "equipping" is more of your doing rather than that of the Creator. Typically the "destiny" of an incarnation is custom tailored for the hoped goal and outcome. One equips themselves to climb a mountain, but the climbing is all up to the climber. Such is life here, wrought with the same risks as climbing a Mountain and wrought with the same perils.

Nothing guarantees the advancement of a spirit here as this place is a virtual spirit mine field due the fallen watchers tormenting the place.

Many an outsider "light worker" has actually been trapped here due the mechanization's of the "Beast". This is the reason that Twin Flame pairs typically incarnate here one at a time, so the other can look over the other during their sojourn here. hf
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:42 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Why does everyone think god is a male?

His
Him
He
etc.. etc...



Why does everyone think God causes our suffering? Suffering is caused by our beleif that we are separate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 696361


There is a bit of Truth to what you say in this as divide and conquer has ever been the Vanguard of Lucifer and the fallen. Division from the universal collective is their cry. The Matrix movie series is essentially Lucifer's view of the Kingdom of God in which the "machines" are portrayed as the "bad guys" much also like the "Borg" in the Star Trek series.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 4:43 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Op thats not the way I see it.

Pain and suffering are a result of separation and forgetfulness of your real self. Pain and suffering are the catalist which pushes you back toward the discover of your true self.

When you suffer enough pain you start looking for answers in the right places. Not outside of yourself.

I find the opposite of what you have stated to actually be true. The closer one comes to an understanding of the true self the less suffering there is. And understanding usually happens with older souls, not young ones. Peace.


Such could never be True, as what you postulate says that the "cake walk" people of the world are the most mature spirits here, something that is patently FALSE through simple observation.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hello Saxon,

Can you explain what "cake walk" people of the world are? Do mean those that may be considered worldly, or those that sequester themselves from life lessons, or perhaps something else entirely?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 4:45 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

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Nope, such has always been a part of my picture and in no way changes anything I've stated. Forgetting is needed to bring people into situations which memory would greatly hamper.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hello Saxon,

Can you explain more in what sense you meant of "forgetting" that is necessary?

Do you mean like in a conscious memory sense, or conditioning/pretense sense, which seems to be like a 'childlike' innocence idea from many mystical ideas?

Also, how does that hamper, and what does it hamper?

Thank you.
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:48 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...


Exactly WHAT do you believe "overcoming the Beast" entails, picking out the right Bible from the bookstore?


...



Hi Saxon,

Can you share you feel "overcoming the Beast" entails?

Thank you
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821


Your first step in overcoming the Beast is one of courage as the Truth here is a bit fearful to understand. And that first step is understanding that this is LUCIFER'S kingdom, and that his power permeates EVERYTHING here. Were our Creator to simply intervene here and place the Truth on your coffee table at the expense of the King of this place, in what then would be your "job" of "overcoming the Beast".

If such were True, our Creator would never exhort you to "overcome the Beast" as HE would have done EVERYTHING for you by placing the very overcoming under your nose easily on your coffee table.

No, my friend, that book called the Bible is all part of the Beast and the very reason that it has been spread world wide from the very presses of Lucifer himself.

Do you really think that Lucifer would be so restrained so as to remove virtually ALL challenge from the very charge itself?

No, he would not, as such would totally neutralize both the charge AND the reward of being someone who actually DID over come such deception.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Saxon (777)
User ID: 566252
6/6/2009 4:53 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Hi Saxon,

Can you describe what the essence of what these "beautiful teachings" were? Were the teachings themselves flawed by method or content? Do think it was a sort of irresistible entrapping kinds of teachings?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821


Lucifer's original wall breaking teaching:

1. "The teachings of our Creator are flawed in regard to eternal Twin Flame unions. Are we not all beautiful gods and goddesses? Should we be restrained from "knowing" each of us down through the ages?"


From the above original eternal union breaking has all other "evil" arisen, like dominoes falling one upon another, crashing down the Mountain of our Creator.

This too is where the "orgies" of the gods/goddesses originated.
Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer
[link to z14.invisionfree.com]
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 4:55 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

....
Your first step in overcoming the Beast is one of courage as the Truth here is a bit fearful to understand. And that first step is understanding that this is LUCIFER'S kingdom, and that his power permeates EVERYTHING here. Were our Creator to simply intervene here and place the Truth on your coffee table at the expense of the King of this place, in what then would be your "job" of "overcoming the Beast".

If such were True, our Creator would never exhort you to "overcome the Beast" as HE would have done EVERYTHING for you by placing the very overcoming under your nose easily on your coffee table.

No, my friend, that book called the Bible is all part of the Beast and the very reason that it has been spread world wide from the very presses of Lucifer himself.

Do you really think that Lucifer would be so restrained so as to remove virtually ALL challenge from the very charge itself?

No, he would not, as such would totally neutralize both the charge AND the reward of being someone who actually DID over come such deception.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hi Saxon,

Thank you for that.

Are you saying there are not even little bits of good nuggets in the bible? Such as the parables perhaps, psalms?

God will not breath for us right?

--

"Ophiuchus - The Great Serpent Wrestler and Tamer"


What is Ophiuchus all about? It seemed to represent a gateway to God, but only when the man has his serpent firmly in his hands, wrestled their own inner beast. Isn't that what its about?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 5:01 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

....
Your first step in overcoming the Beast is one of courage as the Truth here is a bit fearful to understand. And that first step is understanding that this is LUCIFER'S kingdom, and that his power permeates EVERYTHING here. Were our Creator to simply intervene here and place the Truth on your coffee table at the expense of the King of this place, in what then would be your "job" of "overcoming the Beast".

If such were True, our Creator would never exhort you to "overcome the Beast" as HE would have done EVERYTHING for you by placing the very overcoming under your nose easily on your coffee table.

....
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Hi Saxon,

So it does seem that in a sense, all of us schmoes here, may have come here, equipped by a little something something by our Creator, even when living in such a kingdom you described.
but that God will not breath for you in a sense correct?

if not, what is the point of hell, for it would seem for many we already lives it to some level already, in a certain kingdom in a sense.

Thank you.
Rwederfoort
User ID: 662237
6/6/2009 5:04 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

NICE, I love this TOPIC,

Namaste
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 5:04 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

...
Lucifer's original wall breaking teaching:

1. "The teachings of our Creator are flawed in regard to eternal Twin Flame unions. Are we not all beautiful gods and goddesses? Should we be restrained from "knowing" each of us down through the ages?"


From the above original eternal union breaking has all other "evil" arisen, like dominoes falling one upon another, crashing down the Mountain of our Creator.

This too is where the "orgies" of the gods/goddesses originated.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hello Saxon,

Are you saying the deception was for us to believe we were all beautiful gods, or do you mean like a separation from knowing God, or staring to believe we are separate and individual, or just individuality itself was the deception.... id appreciate your help to resolve some of these ambiguities to such an ambiguous topic. ;)


"Orgies of the gods/goddesses"... can you explain more what you mean here?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 5:23 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

....
That's True to a point, but your "equipping" is more of your doing rather than that of the Creator. Typically the "destiny" of an incarnation is custom tailored for the hoped goal and outcome. One equips themselves to climb a mountain, but the climbing is all up to the climber. Such is life here, wrought with the same risks as climbing a Mountain and wrought with the same perils.

Nothing guarantees the advancement of a spirit here as this place is a virtual spirit mine field due the fallen watchers tormenting the place.

Many an outsider "light worker" has actually been trapped here due the mechanization's of the "Beast". This is the reason that Twin Flame pairs typically incarnate here one at a time, so the other can look over the other during their sojourn here. hf
 Quoting: Saxon (777)


Hello Saxon,

"Your own doing..." Is that like a self mastery, and that God again won't breath for you? That everyone posses innate abilities to overcome/tame their own serpents, both within and without?

So the torment that we go through... it seems to be 'numbing'. A tempering, or strengthening, as you stated, it seems that our 'tormentors' may actually become ones 'liberators' when we can be Ophiuchusly tame their affects right? Like an overcoming?

It does feel that knowing the self, what I am, what we all are, seems pertinent. Especially in contrast to how we are social/historically 'massaged' to believe about ourselves and each other.. so in that sense, wouldn't 'remembering' what we all are, apply?

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441472
6/6/2009 5:31 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

The Bible is full of passages about the coming of the Christ specialy the book of Isaias is full of prophecies in reference to Him, how do you account for that?
quoting Uriel

Because normally when the fallen "win", they get the "honors" of ending the "game" however they like.
 Quoting: Saxon (777)

saxon, by exist.. exist outside of any physical body... did you mean other worlds too, or how other earths were created and by whos words ?
...as in sanskrit meaning is artha -- btw, a;lso as a hebrew word for earth -- and the word is
sk. -- artha -- m. meaning
Words and meanings exist outside of any physical body. You and I can NEVER "know" where or who said these things, but are left to
 Quoting: Saxon (777)



Lexicon Results Strong's H776 - 'erets
Transliteration
'erets
Pronunciation

eh'·rets (Key)

Part of Speech
feminine noun

Root Word (Etymology)

from an unused root probably meaning to be firm

TWOT Reference
167


1) land, earth

a) earth

1) whole earth (as opposed to a part)

2) earth (as opposed to heaven)

3) earth (inhabitants)

b) land

1) country, territory

2) district, region

3) tribal territory

4) piece of ground

5) land of Canaan, Israel

6) inhabitants of land

7) Sheol, land without return, (under) world

8) city (-state)

c) ground, surface of the earth

1) ground

2) soil

d) (in phrases)

1) people of the land

2) space or distance of country (in measurements of distance)

3) level or plain country

4) land of the living

5) end(s) of the earth

e) (almost wholly late in usage)

1) lands, countries

a) often in contrast to Canaan


Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 2504 AV — land 1543, earth 712, country 140, ground 98, world 4, way 3, common 1, field 1, nations 1, wilderness + 04057 1


[link to spokensanskrit.de]

sk - pada - n. word
btw.
sl. pa da - of course
sl. pada - fails



Concordance Results (KJV) Strong's H776 - 'erets Learn More About Our Word Search Tools

Strong's Number H776 matches the Hebrew ארץ ('erets), which occurs 2504 times in 2191 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV
Page 1 / 88 (Gen 1:1 - Gen 4:16)


Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


Lexicon Results Strong's G776 - asitia
Transliteration
asitia
Pronunciation

a-se-te'-a (Key)

Part of Speech
feminine noun

Root Word (Etymology)

from G777

TDNT Reference
n/a


Outline of Biblical Usage 1) abstinence from food (whether voluntary or enforced)


Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 1 AV — abstinence 1 Thayer's Lexicon (Help)

[link to www.blueletterbible.org]


Strong's G777 - asitos

Root Word (Etymology)

from G1 (as a negative particle) and G4621

TDNT Reference
n/a
Vines
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Outline of Biblical Usage 1) fasting, without having eaten


Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 1 AV — fasting 1

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sk.
sita adj. white
sitaa f. sugar
[link to spokensanskrit.de]
a - above

sita - sl. not hungry
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441472
6/6/2009 5:34 PM
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so
g i r f. words [link to spokensanskrit.de]

Words and earths exist outside of any physical body.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441472
6/6/2009 5:35 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Idol1 yoda
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 5:40 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Idol1 yoda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 441472



Hi there,

What is it that you wish to express? Im not understanding clearly, is it that you must remain ambiguous for a reason?

Please help us understand all your contributions. I didn't see anything here to seek knowledge outside ones own.

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 441472
6/6/2009 5:41 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

from just one word -- - 'erets
Authorized Version (KJV) Translation Count — Total: 2504 AV — land 1543, earth 712, country 140, ground 98, world 4, way 3, common 1, field 1, nations 1, wilderness + 04057 1 Gesenius's Lexicon (Help)
Voln Gharst
User ID: 696558
6/6/2009 5:43 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"Orgies of the gods/goddesses"... can you explain more what you mean here?

Thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 502821



I think he means that Babylon is here and sex is the only way to get into heaven anymore : ) Big Brother is making sure people are gettin' laid. Little Sister is like the Swastika on Charles Manson's Forehead. It's there for Big Brother to scare virgins

A Fuck Life Approach To False Reality LOL

Last Edited by Voln Gharst on 6/6/2009 at 5:45 PM
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166
6/6/2009 5:44 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Not to muck up this thread too much and with respect to the OP, but the myth of a localized universal protagonist is the romantic meandering of the mind. No devil. No Lucifer. No fallen anything. No localized “god”. No central command. No battle of good vs evil. Sorry.


Now as far as suffering goes, I‘m afraid this gets a bit slippery as well, for much, if not most of the time it is a matter of perspective and understanding. It is our perception of what is transpiring and our choice of responses that translates into “suffering” vs “not suffering”. And so it is, suffering is a resulting condition wherein we ascribe the term to our situation or to that of others, when indeed and in fact, they may not call it such nor identify with their situation as such.


There have been stories galore about the supposed “saintly” types who have endured the most horrible of conditions and/or situations / and/or afflictions with not a sign of “suffering” but rather a smile on their face and a song in their hearts.


Yes, there is a thing called pain, but pain does not cause suffering. Suffering causes suffering. A person of strong will, mind and understanding – who is balanced, centered and expanded in awareness – sees and experiences all that “happens” as just another even in their lives – and does not judge it – nor condemn it – nor disown it – nor wallow in it, good or “bad”. They may feel pain, but they do not disdain it nor wither under it nor focus on it.


The mythical “Jesus”, had he been the super being as depicted, would summarily not have suffered as he could not have suffered– for an enlightened being does not suffer – for all suffering derives from - not – being all that one is - and subsequently - translating events or conditions as being outside themselves – or separate from themselves – which is not the case with such a being – and thus the ensuing fear of victimhood that might take hold open the door for suffering to a lesser being, did not and does not exist.




Call suffering separation anxiety.


Yes, we are free will creatures and this is a free will planet and thus we are free to act with / or without regard for others – wreaking havoc in other’s lives perhaps and causing pain of sorts – but it is all ephemeral and able to be balanced in time.


It can be said that the only thing we can suffer from is our own imbalance and lack of being.



Shalom
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 117166
6/6/2009 5:45 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Shoot, a typo...



Yes, there is a thing called pain, but pain does not cause suffering. Suffering causes suffering. A person of strong will, mind and understanding – who is balanced, centered and expanded in awareness – sees and experiences all that “happens” as just another event in their lives – and does not judge it – nor condemn it – nor disown it – nor wallow in it, good or “bad”. They may feel pain, but they do not disdain it nor wither under it nor focus on it.
Voln Gharst
User ID: 696558
6/6/2009 5:48 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

Shoot, a typo...



Yes, there is a thing called pain, but pain does not cause suffering. Suffering causes suffering. A person of strong will, mind and understanding – ..........– nor disown it – nor wallow in it, good or “bad”. They may feel pain, but they do not disdain it nor wither under it nor focus on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 117166



Strong Will?
You mean, DNA Superiors.
LOL
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 502821
6/6/2009 5:49 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

"Orgies of the gods/goddesses"... can you explain more what you mean here?

Thank you.



I think he means that Babylon is here and sex is the only way to get into heaven anymore : ) Big Brother is making sure people are gettin' laid. Little Sister is like the Swastika on Charles Manson's Forehead. It's there to scare
A Fuck Life Approach To False Reality LOL
 Quoting: Voln Gharst


Hi there,

isn't that like "hedonism" then? which seemed like a hidden abandonment to exist solely to satisfy "lower chakra" stuff.

Babylon, it always reminded of the Land of Amusement where Pinocchio and the 'ruffians' visited and when they stayed too long, started to turn in jackasses.

do you think that the people who gets to live 'in babylon in AD' if they would see it as being bad, or see any negative 'babylonistic' qualities of life in general? It seems to be a fine place, just at the expense of everywhere else though is what it seemed.

Thank you.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 667003
6/6/2009 5:50 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

And this picture shows how it is all going to end up...

:armageddon:


You must seriously feel low and shitty to feel the need to instill fear in each and every one of your posts with your tracts and all your laughable and funny stock.



Is it because you are jealous of all the people who can live free, happy and fearlessly in the most complete peace of mind because they are not believing the same thing as you do that you try to make them comply, using fear, to the same unfree, unhappy and fearful life that you live to ensure that you won't go to hell?

Or are you conscious that you may find out after your death that you have been wrong and that you have wasted your life, so you are trying to make other people waste their life too so you will feel less shitty and stupid to have wasted your life over this?



I'm trying to get why you try so much to convert free and fearless people to slave and fearful people.
 Quoting: Whee! 8D (Quebec)

Very simple. Even though she does not know you, she cares about where your soul will spend eternity.
Agustín
User ID: 690498
6/6/2009 5:54 PM
Re: Why God Allows Suffering Here, the REAL AnswerQuote

You are Gods, so you are the answer.
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