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How many people on this forum understand argumentative logic? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 374095  United States06/09/2009 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Andromeda  User ID: 658410 United States06/09/2009 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Top 25 Creationist Fallacies [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by Andromeda on 06/09/2009 05:12 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 659821 United States06/09/2009 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course, it's quite likely that the utter lack of logic in our society is... intentional. Quoting: A Cynical MindAfter all, it's much easier to present a case or enact a law that completely defies logic, if no one even knows what the hell logic is. Puzzle solved. Just makes the 5% of us who do get it feel like we're living in a madhouse. The 'Remnant' is what we are... |
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| Canuck User ID: 698828  Canada06/09/2009 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Were you expecting to eat pi? Quoting: A Cynical MindI just think a healthy dose of basic logic could liven the place up a bit. What.... ! You mean there's none here? Damnit ... I don't fit in here then..... “I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as fraud.” CARL JUNG IN 1919 "The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw Cree proverb: Only after the last tree has been cut down, only after the last river has been poisoned, only after the last fish has been caught, only then will you find, that money cannot be eaten. "Mankind's true moral test, its fundamental test (which lies deeply buried from view) consists of its attitude towards those who are at its mercy - animals." -Milan Kundera, "The Unbearable Lightness of Being" (1984) |
| Sara-Ka-El User ID: 656628 United States06/09/2009 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem here OP, is with your opening clause... The forum numbers are in a state of constant flux. What percentage of people on this forum understand argumentative logic? From Cooperate Law to Public Defense Truth is a Stranger to Fiction Learn to Swim In the Instancy of Atomic Love, the Footloose are Dead |
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| Exile User ID: 693958  Australia06/09/2009 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps some people are directed here to learn logic, or to practice the use of it? One being's ridiculous is another being's reality. Where you arrive at from logical deduction depends on where you start - ie. the assumptions that you have consciously or unconsciously used as premises to your argument. So to say a post is ridiculous is simply to say that it violates the assumptions you've made about reality. Are you so certain about your assumptions? All great truths begin as blasphemies. Nobody's sister set it up the bomb so talk to her. Siriusly ... most of the time I'm only jokering around. Sanity is a crazy man's crazy in a crazy world. :Exile: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 698624  United Kingdom06/09/2009 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | argumentative logic eh? I'll tell you something, I do not believe in PX one little bit. I think it is UTTERLY ludicrous. HOWEVER, every single PX thread on here is pounced on by exactly the same people, like clockwork, using their 'argumentative logic'. They seem like clever fellas. why don't they just let the 'loons' have their bit of fun? It's time's like that when my spidey senses go fucking crazy! It's time's like that when things don't quite seem SO ludicrous!  |
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| A Cynical Mind (OP) User ID: 669509 United States06/09/2009 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem here OP, is with your opening clause... Quoting: Sara-Ka-ElThe forum numbers are in a state of constant flux. What percentage of people on this forum understand argumentative logic? Given that the number of forum users here is indeed in a constant state of flux, it would be virtually impossible to accurately measure the percentage of how many users here understand argumentative logic. Furthermore, to make such a figure in the first place, it must be assumed that each individual user truly understands the concept and principles behind argumentative logic, and must also be assumed that each individual user is telling the truth. Because such assumptions could never be proven to be 100% correct, and because the user numbers are in a state of constant flux, it is indeed impossible to determine accurately the percentage of users here who understand argumentative logic. Last Edited by A Cynical Mind on 06/09/2009 05:36 PM The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want He makes me down to lie Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by. With bright knives He releaseth my soul. He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places. He converteth me to lamb cutlets, For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger. When cometh the day we lowly ones, Through quiet reflection, and great dedication Master the art of karate, Lo, we shall rise up, And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 698895 United States06/09/2009 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An argument can be logically correct but not true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461379Likewise a premise and it's argument can be true but not logically correct. _____________ Well Said. This shows the very limited practical utility of logic. It is by definition abstract. Symbolic and Syllogistic Logic are actually mostly language-based mathematics. An unnatural union created by over-educated idiots. Logic is WAAAAYYYY over-rated. But a sound and well-supported argument and the ability to rationally defend it, is Waaayyy Under-rated!!! Logic is for those that are stuck in the Trap of Duality. Persuasion is for those that want to win an Argument. |
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| A Cynical Mind (OP) User ID: 669509 United States06/09/2009 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well Said. This shows the very limited practical utility of logic. It is by definition abstract. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 698895Symbolic and Syllogistic Logic are actually mostly language-based mathematics. An unnatural union created by over-educated idiots. Logic is WAAAAYYYY over-rated. But a sound and well-supported argument and the ability to rationally defend it, is Waaayyy Under-rated!!! Logic is for those that are stuck in the Trap of Duality. Persuasion is for those that want to win an Argument. Again I must state that I consider logic to be a useful tool rather than an ideal. Argumentative logic can make it easier for someone to create a "sound and well-supported argument" and use it to "rationally defend it". Argumentative logic can also be used to make an argument more persuasive. Last Edited by A Cynical Mind on 06/09/2009 05:52 PM The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want He makes me down to lie Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by. With bright knives He releaseth my soul. He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places. He converteth me to lamb cutlets, For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger. When cometh the day we lowly ones, Through quiet reflection, and great dedication Master the art of karate, Lo, we shall rise up, And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 698895 United States06/09/2009 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well Said. This shows the very limited practical utility of logic. It is by definition abstract. Quoting: A Cynical MindSymbolic and Syllogistic Logic are actually mostly language-based mathematics. An unnatural union created by over-educated idiots. Logic is WAAAAYYYY over-rated. But a sound and well-supported argument and the ability to rationally defend it, is Waaayyy Under-rated!!! Logic is for those that are stuck in the Trap of Duality. Persuasion is for those that want to win an Argument. Again I must state that I consider logic to be a useful tool rather than an ideal. Argumentative logic can make it easier for someone to create a "sound and well-supported argument" and use it to "rationally defend it". Argumentative logic can also be used to make an argument more persuasive. __________________ I hear you. But I separate the Ivory Tower from Main Street. Let me answer this way -- Johnny Cochran kept OJ out of prison by using no logic at all. In fact, he used anti-logic but mostly careful persuasion. All in a room full of lawyers who had all taken multiple symbolic logic courses :) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43433418 United States09/07/2013 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IMHO, most posters here don't like logic or any critical thinking because it scares them... Thread: Increase Intelligence by OVERCOMING FEAR |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 43433418 United States09/07/2013 09:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How about laziness? I don't know how many times I've read a headline, skipped the article or video that it was based on, and gone straight to the comments... And then after reading pages of comments I realize that the original story/video was not worth my time and I could have figured that out if I just would have read the article or watched the video to begin with.  |
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| Heavenly Alchemy User ID: 41544924 United States09/07/2013 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The logic of each person is subjective due to their experiences, knowledge, environment and disposition. Using logic many will come to different conclusions, if ego is a factor both sides will find the other wrong and argue their side till the end instead of realising that there may be more to learn. There is always more to learn, one doesn't know what they don't know. |
