If Fire cannot exist in vacuum of space - How does the sun burn?

Can you drown a fish? Sure you can! With alcohol.

Because space isn't a vacuum, duh! ;p

Now define "plasma".....

so is it possible that an object thousands of times larger than the earth might also have a gravitational pull? .............. is it possible that this extreme gravity might pull elements like hydrogen and oxygen from space so tightly that they began a reaction which we might call fusion, which results in heat and photons flying to us?

Ionized matter. Atoms that have been stripped of some or all of their electrons, forming a tenuous soup of very hot matter. The atoms are free to magnetically align, leading to streamers of particles organized along field lines and paths of current. You can see a little of this in the video the OP shared. This is strongly related to how older televisions work.

Is this going somewhere?

You're all wrong the sun is filled with candy.

It's possible.......but why did the sun do it, and not our planet? Or maybe a better question would be: How?

Stop being dumb and read the answers ffs!

asking questions is quite the opposite of being dumb.

It's odd the little bits GLPers get right. I had one come up with the concept of a space elevator from something I posted a little while ago. The sun is gravitationally contained, mostly. Occasionally a streamer snaps loose and causes the nation of Canada to stop working but that's another story.

Once I saw a calculation of how long it could burn given it's energy output and mass (I'm too lazy to google) and it would only be a few hundred years before it's just a ball of steam. Furthermore oxygen is a very rare thing in the universe; there are no plants in space and left to it's own devices oxygen will combine with something (anything) and stay there indefinitely.

You can do that? Or......doesn't that take some sort of intelligence?

it does not burn!!! that is an assumption, not sceintific fact...

Do what? Nuclear fusion? Zap up some plasma?

Neither. I left all my wool socks at home and my university has no fusion program.

Don't mind me, just stirring the pot.

GET EDUCATED
[link to www.electric-cosmos.org]

[link to www.youtube.com]

tons more proof if you click 'more info' under the youtube user.

Last Edited by genes of Isis on 06/09/2009 12:46 AM

the sun is a hologram

Therefore everything based on light is a hologram.

Including us.

Great answer, though I think you are wasting your time with someone who poses such a stupid question. If the O/P's brain was converted to pure energy (E= M x C2), he would not have enough to vaporize his hat.

bingo

You must be Bushie junior! It's nuclear not nucular

Why don't you imbeciles admit that you don't actually know?

I thought the Sun was electric?

*stir shit*

Nope. If it was fusion it should be hotter in the center.

The Sun is hotter on the outside or corona.

It is plasma, but it is
not nuclear generated. That is technobabble.

Plasma matter is a stripped substance, not a fused substance.

Also, it is electrically active plasma, not nuclear.

OMG, I can't believe this thread is still going...


We DO know. The answers have already been provided. I am curious, have you people had a formal education? Most people in America have.

I agree,...lots of math here with no solid proof of anything.

It makes sense to me that a star is hotter on the outside because that is where the energy is actually released. It conjures up images of all that energy finally breaking free ... BOOOOOM! Anyway, if it's not nuclear fusion that is producing heat, what is?

Also, the poster that you replied to probably didn't mean that plasma was a fused substance. Plasma is produced by the fusion of hydrogen into helium which causes the intense heat that allows the plasma to exist in the first place.

No, there are a series of temperature changes in the profile of the outer layers of the sun. The same thing is true in Earth's atmosphere.

In the case of the Sun, this is largely possible because temperature is not heat. A smaller number of particles can have a higher average temperature but together still have less inherent energy than a denser layer at a lower average temperature.



Plasma is plasma. It doesn't care what the energy source is. Plasma can also, like other states of matter, exist at a variety of pressures and temperatures. It isn't a single thing.



By the by, what is the explanation within Electric Universe for solar neutrinos? Does it predict the solar neutrino flux as accurately as the standard model? I can't, myself, recall it even _mentioning_ them.

maybe the fire on the surface of the sun isn't in the vacuum of space?

I remember striking a match in Thule Greenland when the temperature was -70 F. The flame froze and I was able to put it in my pocket till it thawed out. Kinda neat!

As pointed out earlier by an enlightened poster that's because it's a huge unshielded nuclear fusion reactor. Wear sun screen doped with lead nanoparticles. Now that's what I call my own special SPF Planet X sunscreen.