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Gerald Celente is a fear monger and clueless (PROOF)

 
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Bad news, GLP doom mongers: Gerald Celente usually does a very good job at removing all his NUMEROUS bad past predictions in order to highlight when he gets one right. For example, he predicts utter doom every year and waits until something bad happens to verify his predictions.

Unfortunately, one of his old articles are still up. Lets see how right Celente is when we look at his predictions from 1997:

GERALD CELENTE IS WRONG - 2000s predictions.
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"Somewhere around the year 2000, the revelation--and revolution--will come. The lawn! Lawns are everywhere: millions of costly, intensively cared for suburban lawns have been doing nothing but growing grass. But a lawn that's turned into a vegetable patch can produce fresh food."

100% WRONG

"The videophone, meanwhile, will keep us in touch with faraway relatives. Today when we use the phone, we are still communicating by radio. With the addition of the videophone's visual dimension, long-distance communication will be more like television."

100% WRONG

"By the year 2000, getting and staying healthy will no longer be a hobby but a necessity for survival. The health information people need will be available; the difficulty will be distinguishing the gold from the dross. Those who are serious about their millennium resolutions to take better care of themselves will begin by checking into one of the new longevity centers springing up around the country. Longevity centers will be to health what colleges are to education--equal parts spa, health club, hospital, detoxification center, fat farm, and resort. They will be staffed with medical doctors well versed in both state-of-the-art medicine and alternative therapies, as well as nutritionists, acupuncturists, herbalists, chiropractors, and a diverse group of physical, emotional, and spiritual therapists and healers."

100% WRONG

"Another key player will be the vitamin counselor. While vitamins have been available in supermarkets and health food stores for decades, it was only in the early 1990s that it became apparent that no two people have the same nutritional needs. Effective vitamin counseling must be individualized, just like effective medical advice; a person's age, lifestyle, profession, and eating habits must be taken into account. But most mainstream physicians have had little training in nutrition, and we can't expect knowledgeable advice from minimum-wage clerks at health food stores. Vitamin counselors, on the other hand, will be multidisciplinary practitioners; they'll have a solid grounding of medical knowledge but won't need four years of medical school. By the year 2000 they will be on their way to becoming as professionalized and as respected as pharmacists."

100% WRONG

"The return of individuality will spell an end to the multibillion-dollar fashion industry The bulk of day-to-day apparel will consist of durable mass-produced casual wear. Where appearance matters, the combination of computerization and declining wages will bring custom tailoring back to an affordable price range. The result--personally designed "smartwear"--will bridge the gap between casual and formal: appearance-enhancing but comfortable."

100% WRONG

"Worker Revolts. One of the underreported stories of 1996 was the massive street demonstrations in Indonesia, where people were tired of working for slave wages. We're going to see more workers fighting for higher pay, even in developed countries. It happened in Germany when the government tried cutting pensions and health benefits. In Canada, demonstrations almost shut down the Toronto Stock Exchange--and Canadians never protest anything."

100% WRONG

"Dr. Death. This summer the Supreme Court will likely rule on physician-assisted suicide. Whatever the Court's decision, assisted suicide is becoming part of our culture. Growing numbers of terminally ill people simply don't want to live, and they will seek out euthanasia just as they sought abortions when they didn't want children. Also, as the population ages and medical costs rise, profit-hungry HMOS won't want to pay for medical care for people whose lives are nearly over."

100% WRONG

"The public is going to demand that the government break up powerful corporate monopolies. One industry that will almost certainly suffer the wrath of trust busters is health care. There are insurance companies that also own HMOs, hospitals, and drug manufacturers--the entire spectrum of medical services."

100% WRONG

"All in the Family. The flip side of the antimonopoly movement. Businesses that are family-owned and operated--or that at least give the impression of being mom-and-pop establishments--will thrive."

100% WRONG

"So the next social upheaval in America won't come from Generation X but from today's teens and preteens. They will be tomorrow's revolutionaries. And just as the boomers protested the Vietnam War, these kids are going to march against materialism and greed. They'll be driven to it for a number of reasons, one being economic. They are not going to have the same opportunities that the boomers or even Generation Xers have had. Conspicuous consumption simply won't be an option for them."

100% WRONG

So what do we have? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and WRONG. But it doesn't matter. Because Celente tells you the doom you want to hear, GLPers will continue to eat up the dung he spews.
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he's been right about more serious shit
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"When people lose everything and have nothing to lose....they lose it..."


O lee Crap....that was getting so old.....
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In his defense, he's not a prophet, nor does he claim to be. Of course he is going to be wrong some of the time.
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The OP is right. Apparently Gerlad Celente sucks as a prophet. Of course, he is a trends examiner, not a prophet. He even explains how he does it, current actions set future trends. In all of those listed you can guess what his inspiration was for each prediction.
It also seems in some of those he was possibly considering international investors who invest in markets over seas. From here in America it is hard to tell if these were accurate somewhere in the world.
From that point, all you have to do is spend some time learning about what is going on with our economy and you can see what his inspiration is for saying these things about the future of America.
I think he'll be right in the end. Maybe not as bad as he and a lot of people expect, but at least we were expecting it.
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Who has more hits than Celente?
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Blind kid playing battleship?
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and you think we are going to be ok, and that celente is full of shit about the economy? whatever you friggin shill.
lets hear some of your predictions then? will barry sotero save us?
asshole
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The OP is right. Apparently Gerlad Celente sucks as a prophet. Of course, he is a trends examiner, not a prophet. He even explains how he does it, current actions set future trends. In all of those listed you can guess what his inspiration was for each prediction.
It also seems in some of those he was possibly considering international investors who invest in markets over seas. From here in America it is hard to tell if these were accurate somewhere in the world.
From that point, all you have to do is spend some time learning about what is going on with our economy and you can see what his inspiration is for saying these things about the future of America.
I think he'll be right in the end. Maybe not as bad as he and a lot of people expect, but at least we were expecting it.
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Clueless.

There is no such thing as a trends examiner, its something Celente made up to make idiots believe in him. In reality future results are not trend based. Anyone who believes they are failed statistics. Future data points cannot be predicted by previous data points. It is your basic failure to understand this reality of life and math that is why you believe in Celente.

Celente has been wrong, will be wrong, and will always be wrong.
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Who has more hits than Celente?
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Just about anyone who throws darts at at a dartboard.
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He called the commercial real estate bubble which is collapsing as we speak.
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Who has more hits than Celente?


Just about anyone who throws darts at at a dartboard.
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You best wake up and prepare for a complete collapse.
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and you think we are going to be ok, and that celente is full of shit about the economy? whatever you friggin shill.
lets hear some of your predictions then? will barry sotero save us?
asshole
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calm down fuck, you sound like somebody just insulted your religion. dont believe shit so blindly and actually read what the OP has to say. the OP is just saying that celente is wrong a lot more than he says he is, not that he can make better predictions, nor does he talk about obama. asshole? why the fuck is he an asshole? just because he gave some proof that your beliefs might be wrong?

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"There is no such thing as a trends examiner"
quoting Anonymous Coward 684017

Tell that to the very successful Kiplinger organization.
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GERALD CELENTE IS Right - 2000s predictions.




"The videophone, meanwhile, will keep us in touch with faraway relatives. Today when we use the phone, we are still communicating by radio. With the addition of the videophone's visual dimension, long-distance communication will be more like television."

100% RIGHT

 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


Guess you missed out on the whole internet communication revolution to say his prediction was wrong.


"By the year 2000, getting and staying healthy will no longer be a hobby but a necessity for survival. The health information people need will be available; the difficulty will be distinguishing the gold from the dross. Those who are serious about their millennium resolutions to take better care of themselves will begin by checking into one of the new longevity centers springing up around the country. Longevity centers will be to health what colleges are to education--equal parts spa, health club, hospital, detoxification center, fat farm, and resort. They will be staffed with medical doctors well versed in both state-of-the-art medicine and alternative therapies, as well as nutritionists, acupuncturists, herbalists, chiropractors, and a diverse group of physical, emotional, and spiritual therapists and healers."


 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


100% RIGHT

You are just too poor to visit one of these centers.


"The return of individuality will spell an end to the multibillion-dollar fashion industry The bulk of day-to-day apparel will consist of durable mass-produced casual wear. Where appearance matters, the combination of computerization and declining wages will bring custom tailoring back to an affordable price range. The result--personally designed "smartwear"--will bridge the gap between casual and formal: appearance-enhancing but comfortable."
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017

100% RIGHT

Been to the Gap in the past ten years?


"Worker Revolts. One of the underreported stories of 1996 was the massive street demonstrations in Indonesia, where people were tired of working for slave wages. We're going to see more workers fighting for higher pay, even in developed countries. It happened in Germany when the government tried cutting pensions and health benefits. In Canada, demonstrations almost shut down the Toronto Stock Exchange--and Canadians never protest anything."
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017



100% RIGHT

Just wasn't reported in the US.


"Dr. Death. This summer the Supreme Court will likely rule on physician-assisted suicide. Whatever the Court's decision, assisted suicide is becoming part of our culture. Growing numbers of terminally ill people simply don't want to live, and they will seek out euthanasia just as they sought abortions when they didn't want children. Also, as the population ages and medical costs rise, profit-hungry HMOS won't want to pay for medical care for people whose lives are nearly over."

 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017

100% RIGHT

Assisted suicide happens everyday. People just don't talk about it.

"The public is going to demand that the government break up powerful corporate monopolies. One industry that will almost certainly suffer the wrath of trust busters is health care. There are insurance companies that also own HMOs, hospitals, and drug manufacturers--the entire spectrum of medical services."
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017

100% Right

The public demanded, but was ignored.

"So the next social upheaval in America won't come from Generation X but from today's teens and preteens. They will be tomorrow's revolutionaries. And just as the boomers protested the Vietnam War, these kids are going to march against materialism and greed. They'll be driven to it for a number of reasons, one being economic. They are not going to have the same opportunities that the boomers or even Generation Xers have had. Conspicuous consumption simply won't be an option for them."

100% RIGHT
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017



Where have you been for the past 9 years, in a Coma?
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Actually those are all simply generalizations that you can use to back up your story. The internet was beginning to take off in 1997 so why wouldn't you figure that video was possible. Trends about mass producing clothes? Really it is cheaper to buy a tailored good rather than a mass produced one. I don't think so. The person who said the housing market was going to fail, no duh. If you have ever studied any economy in your life you notice there is an up and down and hmm we were in a bull market in the 90's so it would most likely stay until the 2000's and then what happens after any economic rise, a fall. This one just happened to be more drastic because of the policies instituted by Clinton in the 90's over a decline in the interest rates on loans. Also if you were buying a house in the 90's you could easily sell it in 97 for about 30 percent more than it was worth. it was only inevitable that the prices of homes would rise continuously. He is merely a statistics expert. He can predict what is going to happen in a broad spectrum but isn't he just like the Stock Market that tells you as a consumer what is worth more than something else. Make your own predictions about the future and stop listening to some negative nancy who has nothing better to do then say the world will end. He probably has a horrible life and wishes everyone else were as miserable as him.
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Fear monger? I'm a fish monger are there any other mongers on GLP?
Has the economy effected your monging.
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videophone = webcams and voip cant see how that's wrong it started around 2000 now is common.
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"Somewhere around the year 2000, the revelation--and revolution--will come. The lawn! Lawns are everywhere: millions of costly, intensively cared for suburban lawns have been doing nothing but growing grass. But a lawn that's turned into a vegetable patch can produce fresh food."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


No, this is happening.
[link to www.cnn.com]

The only question is what did Celente mean by "somewhere around the year 2000?" Does 2008 count?

"The videophone, meanwhile, will keep us in touch with faraway relatives. Today when we use the phone, we are still communicating by radio. With the addition of the videophone's visual dimension, long-distance communication will be more like television."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


Have you not heard of Skype? My company is using it. My dear ol' mother is using it. Everyone is using it apparently, except you.

"By the year 2000, getting and staying healthy will no longer be a hobby but a necessity for survival. The health information people need will be available; the difficulty will be distinguishing the gold from the dross. Those who are serious about their millennium resolutions to take better care of themselves will begin by checking into one of the new longevity centers springing up around the country. Longevity centers will be to health what colleges are to education--equal parts spa, health club, hospital, detoxification center, fat farm, and resort. They will be staffed with medical doctors well versed in both state-of-the-art medicine and alternative therapies, as well as nutritionists, acupuncturists, herbalists, chiropractors, and a diverse group of physical, emotional, and spiritual therapists and healers."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


I had to look this one up. Such centers are out there and gaining popularity. Celente seems to have overstated how prevalent they'd be in the year 2000, but to call this 100% wrong is disingenuous.

"Another key player will be the vitamin counselor. While vitamins have been available in supermarkets and health food stores for decades, it was only in the early 1990s that it became apparent that no two people have the same nutritional needs. Effective vitamin counseling must be individualized, just like effective medical advice; a person's age, lifestyle, profession, and eating habits must be taken into account. But most mainstream physicians have had little training in nutrition, and we can't expect knowledgeable advice from minimum-wage clerks at health food stores. Vitamin counselors, on the other hand, will be multidisciplinary practitioners; they'll have a solid grounding of medical knowledge but won't need four years of medical school. By the year 2000 they will be on their way to becoming as professionalized and as respected as pharmacists."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


I was going to agree that Celente was 100% wrong here. Then I realized he was talking about nutritionists. Again, not 100% wrong, but clearly an overstatement. Nutritionists are becoming more prevalent, but in 2009 they don't appear to be at the level he said they would be by the year 2000.

"The return of individuality will spell an end to the multibillion-dollar fashion industry The bulk of day-to-day apparel will consist of durable mass-produced casual wear. Where appearance matters, the combination of computerization and declining wages will bring custom tailoring back to an affordable price range. The result--personally designed "smartwear"--will bridge the gap between casual and formal: appearance-enhancing but comfortable."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


Celente seems to contradict himself here, at least as it's quoted. Either clothing will be mass-produced, or it will be custom tailored? It seems he may have been wrong about that part. But, anyone who has been to a mall can tell he was right when he said "bridge the gap between casual and formal," although I don't recall when this fashion trend really started, and I don't follow fashion, it seems to me it has picked up since he wrote that. What I have noticed is more and more places are offering affordable tailoring, usually via their websites. Even Target is/was doing this for dress shirts and pants. Perhaps that is what he meant - I don't know.


"Worker Revolts. One of the underreported stories of 1996 was the massive street demonstrations in Indonesia, where people were tired of working for slave wages. We're going to see more workers fighting for higher pay, even in developed countries. It happened in Germany when the government tried cutting pensions and health benefits. In Canada, demonstrations almost shut down the Toronto Stock Exchange--and Canadians never protest anything."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


You haven't been paying attention to what's been going on in France.
You're also ignoring the WTO protests. Further riots occurred in Indonesia after Celente wrote that. You're ignoring all the anti-globalization riots that are strongly linked with labor issues.
Economic riots in Argentina. Labor riots in China. Global May Day riots. Really man, get your head out of the sand.

"Dr. Death. This summer the Supreme Court will likely rule on physician-assisted suicide. Whatever the Court's decision, assisted suicide is becoming part of our culture. Growing numbers of terminally ill people simply don't want to live, and they will seek out euthanasia just as they sought abortions when they didn't want children. Also, as the population ages and medical costs rise, profit-hungry HMOS won't want to pay for medical care for people whose lives are nearly over."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


No, he's quite correct about this. The court DID rule on assisted suicide that summer. A simple scan of news headlines on the subject since 1997 show the movement to permit assisted suicide has been growing. Assisted suicide is now legal in OR, MT, and WA. Bills have been and continue to be introduced in other states at a growing rate. And he's right about HMOs, although that may have been true by the time he wrote that.

"The public is going to demand that the government break up powerful corporate monopolies. One industry that will almost certainly suffer the wrath of trust busters is health care. There are insurance companies that also own HMOs, hospitals, and drug manufacturers--the entire spectrum of medical services."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


He is ~95% wrong about this. There has been a significant, but minority outcry over the situation, but nothing has been done about it from a legal standpoint.

"All in the Family. The flip side of the antimonopoly movement. Businesses that are family-owned and operated--or that at least give the impression of being mom-and-pop establishments--will thrive."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


He is wrong about this so far.

"So the next social upheaval in America won't come from Generation X but from today's teens and preteens. They will be tomorrow's revolutionaries. And just as the boomers protested the Vietnam War, these kids are going to march against materialism and greed. They'll be driven to it for a number of reasons, one being economic. They are not going to have the same opportunities that the boomers or even Generation Xers have had. Conspicuous consumption simply won't be an option for them."

100% WRONG
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


100% right about this, as is evidenced by the surprise popularity of Ron Paul among Generation Y. Support for both typical liberal and typical conservative ideologies have been diminished as support for Paul and people similar to him has increased. It's been easy to ignore it (as you've willfully ignored everything else), but that's getting harder to do now. Even the MSM is struggling to ignore it. The status quo has been challenged, the upheaval has begun, and the movement is being perpetuated mainly by Gen Y.

So what do we have? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG and WRONG. But it doesn't matter. Because Celente tells you the doom you want to hear, GLPers will continue to eat up the dung he spews.
 Quoting: TruthWillSetYouFree 684017


What we have is a guy who doesn't bat 1000, but has still hit mostly home runs, especially on the major economic issues that affect us all.
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I would say that given the time of those predictions that they were a little off but still correct.

1)My parents tore up a good chunk of lawn out back to grow a garden this year after Dad lost his Job and hasnt been able to find employment in his field. (due mostly to his age)

2) what is webcam communication, nothing more than a video phone to me, just differnt means of making it work. Lots of people use them even if its not everyone.

i could go on.....point is all in due time and give the guy a brake, im sure you said some stuff in 97 that sounded good then that makes you sound like a dumb shit now when taken too litterally or when mis represented.
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The OP has not done enough research before posting this. Maybe his timing was slightly premature but ALL of these have come true.

You need to do your homework before posting such silliness.

Besides, if you say he deletes any incorrect predictions, why then is the one you say is incorrect still up? You make little to no sense at all. wtf
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Nah he's right about most of it he just puts the hitlerian spin blame the jews. Chapman too.
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DJopie

Opie,

Celente nailed every one of those 'trends' you indicated as 100% wrong.

:DJrebelli:
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Hey Jackass Op how do like Celente now? How are things working out for you?
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political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Who has more hits than Celente?


Just about anyone who throws darts at at a dartboard.


You best wake up and prepare for a complete collapse.
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Now there's someone with a brain.
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:DJopie:

Opie,

Celente nailed every one of those 'trends' you indicated as 100% wrong.

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Correct!

What is wrong with op'es reading comprehension?



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lmao at OP
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Gerald,
Thanks for keeping 'em full of fear and paralyzed....less competition for me.





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