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Key Figures in Global Battle Against Illegal Arms Trade Lost in Air France Crash

Source: The Sunday Herald via Common Dreams

ARGENTINA: Argentine campaigner Pablo Dreyfus and Swiss colleague Ronald Dreyer battled South American arms and drug trafficking

by Andrew McLeod

AMID THE media frenzy and speculation over the disappearance of Air France's ill-fated Flight 447, the loss of two of the world's most prominent figures in the war on the illegal arms trade and international drug trafficking has been virtually overlooked.

Pablo Dreyfus
Pablo Dreyfus, a 39-year-old Argentine who was travelling with his wife Ana Carolina Rodrigues aboard the doomed flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, had worked tirelessly with the Brazilian authorities to stem the flow of arms and ammunition that for years has fuelled the bloody turf wars waged by drug gangs in Rio's sprawling favelas.

Also travelling with Dreyfus on the doomed flight was his friend and colleague Ronald Dreyer, a Swiss diplomat and co-ordinator of the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence who had worked with UN missions in El Salvador, Mozambique, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and Angola. Both men were consultants at the Small Arms Survey, an independent think tank based at Geneva's Graduate Institute of International Studies. The Survey said on its website that Dryer had helped mobilise the support of more than 100 countries to the cause of disarmament and development.

<snip>

According to the International Action Network on Small Arms Control (IANSA), Dreyfus's work was instrumental in the introduction of landmark small arms legislation in Brazil in 2003. Under this legislation, an online link was created between army and police databases listing production, imports and exports of arms and ammunition in Brazil.

Read more: [link to www.commondreams.org]
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bump ing myself!!!!
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hmmm
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Yep.. coincidence. Nothing more. Move on.
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That's too bad.
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interesting find OP
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Very interesting.

If we also add to this the fact that Lady Diana Spencer was very active and influential in her anti land mine campaign and referred to by two Conservative MPs before her 'convenient' death as a "loose canon", we can draw our own conclusions.

The armaments industry lobby is very secretive and powerful indeed, and it's one of the arenas where the banksters make their vast fortunes e.g. two World Wars, Vietnam etc. etc.
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bump bump bump


My girlfriend and I were sat watching this break on the television and I looked over to her and said 'We'll find out there were some people on board they want killed in a couple of weeks.'

Cheers OP!

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Yep.. coincidence. Nothing more. Move on.
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yes, of course!

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Thye fought the war on drugs and guns> Then good fucking riddance.
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Very interesting.

If we also add to this the fact that Lady Diana Spencer was very active and influential in her anti land mine campaign and referred to by two Conservative MPs before her 'convenient' death as a "loose canon", we can draw our own conclusions.

The armaments industry lobby is very secretive and powerful indeed, and it's one of the arenas where the banksters make their vast fortunes e.g. two World Wars, Vietnam etc. etc.
 Quoting: yes2faith


I'd recommend looking into Rik Clays work on the Zion 2012 Olympics for info on Diana. It's very very interesting. Links available if you're not aware of it. :-)
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Wonder if they believed 6 million died in the Holocaust?
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[link to www.femalefirst.co.uk]

Air France Crash Kills Brazilian Heir
04-06-2009 14:00


Brazil's Prince Pedro Luiz was aboard the Air France flight that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on Sunday night (31.05.09).

The 26-year-old royal - a direct descendent of Brazil's last emperor Pedro II, whose 48-year reign ended when the monarchy was abolished in 1889 - was among the 228 people killed when the plane went down en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.

The Orleans e Braganca family confirmed his death on their official royal website yesterday (03.06.09).

They said Pedro Luiz had been returning to Luxembourg, where he worked in a financial institution, after visiting family.

Brazil's Estado de S. Paulo newspaper claimed he had moved to Europe to find a royal bride to further his ambition to restore the monarchy in the South American country.

He was an active participant in pro-monarchy events because he believed the restoration of Brazil's monarchy was close at hand. Pedro Luiz was a passionate supporter of his right to rule.

As a child, he attended pro-monarchy rallies with his father, Prince Antonio de Orleans e Braganca, and later helped found the Youth for Monarchy organisation and the Imperial Crusade movement.

His family's website said: "He was an active participant in pro-monarchy events because he believed the restoration of Brazil's monarchy was close at hand."

Meanwhile, Britain's Queen Elizabeth has sent a personal message of condolence to the victims of the crash.

She said: "I was deeply saddened to hear of the loss of Air France 447 with 228 people on board," the monarch wrote.

"I would like to send my heartfelt sympathy to the families and friends of those who are involved. At this difficult time, all those affected by this tragedy are in our thoughts and prayers."

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bump for the morning coffee addicts
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It figures...
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Air France crash killed two prominent illegal arms foes



By John Byrne

Published: June 9, 2009
Updated 13 hours ago



The puzzling crash of Air France’s Flight 447 killed two of the world’s “most prominent” illegal arms trade and international drug trafficking foes, according to a little-noticed report.

In a revelation sure to fuel conspiracy theories over the plane’s demise, the report reveals that two key figures in the neverending internecine battle against global arms and drug trafficking perished when the plane abruptly fell out of the sky. Both were particularly active in efforts to stem illegal arms trading in Latin America.

A 39-year Argentinian man, Pablo Dreyfus, was said to be a major player in an effort by Brazilian authorities to stop flow of arms to drug gangs in Rio. He was a consultant for Small Arms Survey, a Geneva-based thinktank.

Another consultant for Small Arms Survey also died in the crash, “Ronald Dreyer, a Swiss diplomat and co-ordinator of the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence who had worked with UN missions in El Salvador, Mozambique, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and Angola,” according to Scotland’s Sunday Herald.

“Both men were consultants at the Small Arms Survey, an independent think tank based at Geneva’s Graduate Institute of International Studies,” the Herald reported. “The Survey said on its website that Dryer had helped mobilise the support of more than 100 countries to the cause of disarmament and development.”

Dreyfus and Dreyer were reportedly traveling to Switzerland to “present the latest edition of the Small Arms Survey handbook, of which Dreyfus was a joint editor.”

Dreyfus advocated for “stringent labeling” of ammunition produced by weapons companies, the paper said. He averred that such labeling would greatly aid the tracking of arms acquired by criminals.

Dreyfus focused in particular on Brazilian arms firm Companhia Brasileira de Cartuchos which bought Germany’s Metallwerk Elisenhutte Nassau in 2007 and another company in the Czech Republic. He said CBC should “consider the risk that some of these exports end up, via diversions, feeding violence in Brazil.”

“When Rio agents smashed a cell of drug traffickers who had sourced their weapons from the tri-border area, Dreyfus noted its leaders were prominent businessmen living in apartments in the plush Rio suburbs of Ipanema and São Corrado,” the Herald noted.

Though the cause of the crash has not been conclusively determined, most experts have focused on speed sensors that may have affected the plane’s course when it was caught in severe thunderstorms.

“A spokesman for a pilots’ union says all Air France jets taking off now have been equipped with two new-generation speed sensors,” AP reported Tuesday. “The so-called Pitot tubes on the outside of an aircraft are under suspicion in the crash of Air France Flight 447 into the Atlantic Ocean.”

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The plane was downed to prevent the return of a monarchy to Brazil.
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Very interesting.

If we also add to this the fact that Lady Diana Spencer was very active and influential in her anti land mine campaign and referred to by two Conservative MPs before her 'convenient' death as a "loose canon", we can draw our own conclusions.

The armaments industry lobby is very secretive and powerful indeed, and it's one of the arenas where the banksters make their vast fortunes e.g. two World Wars, Vietnam etc. etc.
 Quoting: yes2faith


THEY SHOULD ALL BE SHOT!!
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The plane was downed to prevent the return of a monarchy to Brazil.
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YOU MEAN LIKE GAY QUEENS ON FLAOTS IN CARNAVIL?
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Thye fought the war on drugs and guns> Then good fucking riddance.
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Life all life is sacred...Drugs and guns..don't mix//

ALCOHOL on the other hand or tobacco are complimentary
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Thye fought the war on drugs and guns> Then good fucking riddance.
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Not sure you understand. The black ops groups (CIA M16) own the illegal arms and drug trade. Not people to mess with.
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Never travel with famous or infamous people !
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Not sure you understand. The black ops groups (CIA M16) own the illegal arms and drug trade. Not people to mess with.
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Harry Truman once said: "I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo."
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The plane was downed to prevent the return of a monarchy to Brazil.
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Lily you are "drop dead gorgeous" Tony Soprano

PS Not sure I'd want Tony calling me "drop dead" anything bit there ya have it.

Not monarchists not drug and gun fighters...they were collateral damage and convenient "hooks" of deception to get the conspiracy hounds off the track.

Planes falling from the sky are always the work of the extortion experts from Petite Boulder. Now after forty years of practice, it's still the shakedown of the county commissioner who's banging the local bartender except now it's writ large on the international stage.

Someone refused to pay the extortion tab received from the shiney top of Foggy Bottom and so had to go down. Now everyone on their international extortionists' hit list will pay up.
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Yep.. coincidence. Nothing more. Move on.
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I bet you believed all those "coincidences" on 9/11, too.
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Key Figures in Global Battle Against Illegal Arms Trade Lost in Air France Crash

Source: The Sunday Herald via Common Dreams

ARGENTINA: Argentine campaigner Pablo Dreyfus and Swiss colleague Ronald Dreyer battled South American arms and drug trafficking

by Andrew McLeod

AMID THE media frenzy and speculation over the disappearance of Air France's ill-fated Flight 447, the loss of two of the world's most prominent figures in the war on the illegal arms trade and international drug trafficking has been virtually overlooked.

Pablo Dreyfus
Pablo Dreyfus, a 39-year-old Argentine who was travelling with his wife Ana Carolina Rodrigues aboard the doomed flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, had worked tirelessly with the Brazilian authorities to stem the flow of arms and ammunition that for years has fuelled the bloody turf wars waged by drug gangs in Rio's sprawling favelas.

Also travelling with Dreyfus on the doomed flight was his friend and colleague Ronald Dreyer, a Swiss diplomat and co-ordinator of the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence who had worked with UN missions in El Salvador, Mozambique, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and Angola. Both men were consultants at the Small Arms Survey, an independent think tank based at Geneva's Graduate Institute of International Studies. The Survey said on its website that Dryer had helped mobilise the support of more than 100 countries to the cause of disarmament and development.

<snip>

According to the International Action Network on Small Arms Control (IANSA), Dreyfus's work was instrumental in the introduction of landmark small arms legislation in Brazil in 2003. Under this legislation, an online link was created between army and police databases listing production, imports and exports of arms and ammunition in Brazil.

Read more: [link to www.commondreams.org]
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 Quoting: TiberiusMaximus


Two people fighting against "small arms proliferation" ie gun rights.

Get used to the term disarmament. They will be blaring it on the news soon.
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Just finished reading 500 pages of a book called "The Shadow World" about illegal arms trade ( the only type of arms trade ) and it is well believable that the crash was an assassination. The arms trade is worth billions or even trillions and the powers involved will bulldozer any form of dissent. These people are not like the rest of us, they have zero conscience and to take out an airline and all its passengers would not cause them any remorse whatsoever.

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