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i did read articles about DOD trials with cipro lasting beyond 7.5 years.
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While I haven't used pet antibiotics on myself yet, I did use fish amoxicillin for my dog.

She had a really nasty abcess from a fight and I couldn't afford the vet routine.

The vet's office would not prescibe me antibiotics but wanted to do the exam, drains, etc...and I knew I was looking at around at least $200...so I went down the road to my feed store and bought enough antibiotic for a week.

It was a nasty time keeping the wound clean, expressed of all the pus (I'll never look at cherry pie the same again, ugh.), heat treatments and packing it with antibiotic cream, but it healed nicely.

It only cost me $5 for the pills and $4 for the tube of cream, a nicely healed dog...priceless.

Fish people, especially koi enthusiasts would not use inferior products to treat their anywhere up to $10,000 dollar fish, so I would expect them to be human grade, anyhow. But, I am glad to know about the Baytril being bad for humans. I have fish and have used Baytril, but never considered the harm it could pose for people

I have a bottle of injectible antibiotics for the cattle, but I am so squeamish about hypodermics I don't see how I could use it on myself. <nauseated shudder>
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We have already created some superbugs by misuse,
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The abuse has been industrial use in agribusiness by far and away the greatest cause of environmental contamination. GMO
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We have already created some superbugs by misuse,


The abuse has been industrial use in agribusiness by far and away the greatest cause of environmental contamination. GMO
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Yes. Far more antibiotics are consumed by the livestock industry than for human use.

They not only use it to treat active illness, they keep them on constant antibiotics to prevent possible illness, and it is a well known fact that many meat animals grow faster when fed antibiotics.

Faster growing animals, the quicker to market, the bigger profits to be had.

It gets in the milk, it gets in the meat, it pollutes the groundwater from their antibiotic-logged feces and urine.

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I have used the fish medicine on my pet rats once when two of them had the sniffles. It was advised to me by the pet store owner and he also told me at the time that lots of humans buy it to use it on themselves!!

Rats and mice are very similar to humans. That is why scientists use them for testing. They may not LOOK human but inside they are like us.

The pills (capsules) came in a box and there was powder inside the pill. I just opened it up and poured the powder into their water bottle, then added water. I did that for 7 days and the sniffles went away. Respitory problems are very common in pet rats/mice as they are prone to drafts.

So I would go with the fish medicine: T.C. Tetracycline

If they ask what you want it for, you could always say your rats are sick; that they are wheezing and little bubbles are coming out of their nose.

Or say you have fish...
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im really interested in using fenbendazole, which is most commonly used for dogs who have internal parasites. This antibiotic isn't used in humans. Would it be safe to use it?
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im really interested in using fenbendazole, which is most commonly used for dogs who have internal parasites. This antibiotic isn't used in humans. Would it be safe to use it?
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Safe for what? Do you have worms?
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I have a recurring problem with ear infections. I get a mild ear infection roughly every six months or so, typically when the seasons change.

I've spent countless trips to the Dr. I have health insurance, but the inconvenience along with the cost led me to look for alternatives.

I know what's wrong. Its e same thing that's been wrong with me every time, every six months, like clockwork.

I started using Fish Mox, which is exactly what is prescribed to me for my ear infections, and it's worked every time. I go with the same dosage ad what's prescribed, same medication, same course.

Works every time.

So, do I pay 80 bucks for an office visit plus the cost of the prescription or just order up the Meds I need?


As an aside, all of you that are using antibiotics, make sure you take a good course of probiotics after a course of antibiotics. It really does help keeping your digestive tract healthy after you clear up your infection.



Cheers.
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hey anyone here using pet meds? fish antibiotics?
why aren't you just getting scrip from the doctor?

I want to hear from you. Send me an email and tell me about your experience.
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are you retarded? obviously b/c they either don't have health insurance or don't want to pay the deductible. generic amox is about $12, but the the doctor's visit to get the script is $40-80.
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Question: I am in serious need of some antibiotics. Like everyone else I cannot afford the visit to the doc and the prescription. I understand from this thread I can go to any old "PetSmart" or something like that to get what is called FishMox. I was wondering if they have something at the farm supply stores like Tractor Supply Company that would work too? If so what would it be called? If I just walk in and explain what I am looking for they will most certainly NOT sell it to me. In addition to Petsmart or the like, where would I go to get adult/pet antibiotics and what are they called.

Also I know they have steroids for dogs, like prednisone. I also know they are the exact same meds that humans take. Does anyone know where I can purchase something like that and again, what would it be called?

Thanks for any help you can give.
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animal anti biotics are not safe for humans.
they have a very crude method of production.
research will show you i speak the truth.
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idjit, they are all made in the same place.
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im really interested in using fenbendazole, which is most commonly used for dogs who have internal parasites. This antibiotic isn't used in humans. Would it be safe to use it?
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Safe for what? Do you have worms?
 Quoting: D's Pet


The variety of '----'bendazole antihelmentics have a fair safety profile,and a long history but if you look, there are a fair number of fatalities noted mostly in India and adjacent environs where they are handed out freely. Yes they do kill people, usually the infirm or with underlying diseases
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I have used the fish medicine on my pet rats once when two of them had the sniffles. It was advised to me by the pet store owner and he also told me at the time that lots of humans buy it to use it on themselves!!

Rats and mice are very similar to humans. That is why scientists use them for testing. They may not LOOK human but inside they are like us.

The pills (capsules) came in a box and there was powder inside the pill. I just opened it up and poured the powder into their water bottle, then added water. I did that for 7 days and the sniffles went away. Respitory problems are very common in pet rats/mice as they are prone to drafts.

So I would go with the fish medicine: T.C. Tetracycline

If they ask what you want it for, you could always say your rats are sick; that they are wheezing and little bubbles are coming out of their nose.

Or say you have fish...
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The real deal?
Infectious disease, it's diagnosis and treatment is not cookbook and not simple by any means. Guess wrong and you can cause damage, and through neglect and delay you can kill or die miserably, if youre lucky or suffer for years with debility.
Such is life, If you want to survive, invite someone that knows what they are doing and smart enough to know the shortcuts and substitutions. Most docs dont function outside of cushy surroundings.
If you want a false sense of security buy a washington or merck manual and let the fun begin!
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Been using fish antibiotics for years and they work well most are made by same lab that makes them for humans
do not uses amoxicillin it dancedanceis hard on tooth enamel dancedance
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I'm allergic to all .....cillin stuf. What else available ?
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OK all you survivalists, what is the best all-around pet antibiotic for humans. And, how do you figure dosage? By weight, as indicated for the pet?

I am looking to get some just in case...I understand that humans can actually use pet antibiotics safely.
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I think if people really want to survive they need to start looking at the source of where pharma gets it.

Plants, Herbs, Roots learn about the ones you may need and where to find them.
You are the CEO of your own wellness. You need to take back your health from the disease-care system
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hey anyone here using pet meds? fish antibiotics?
why aren't you just getting scrip from the doctor?

I want to hear from you. Send me an email and tell me about your experience.
 Quoting: meghan21


I'm using amoxicillan and have been for about two years because of a tooth infection that keeps coming back. I have an impacted wisdom tooth that would cost a lot to get pulled but I don't feel like spending the outrageous amount of money to get it pulled.
So if the pain gets bad for a week or so I pop some asprin and every month or two I take amoxicillin for a week or so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1024568


You need to realize that the bacteria from a tooth infection can get into your bloodstream and lodge in your heart. Like it did for my wife. Now on blood thinners for life. Please reconsider "toughing it out" and get it fixed.
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animal anti biotics are not safe for humans.
they have a very crude method of production.
research will show you i speak the truth.
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Do you really believe the drug companies have one manufacturing plant on one side of the road that makes high quality human drugs, and then builds another on the other side of the road to make inferior animal drugs?
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People wondering why use animal meds? because NO insurance and cost of doctor is very high. I just got out my dog's amoxicillin and led me to this forum. Lot's of people in bad shape financially, so I appreciate this information.
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Have worked at an animal hospital now for 16yrs. We all self medicate.Amoxicillin is fine,cephilexin is good as well.I haven't taken human antibiotics for 16 years.Why should I? Most of what they put your doggie and Kitty on is basically the same as what your human doc will prescribe just diffrent name,heck sometimes not even diffrent name.Amoxicillin isn't used with us as much as cephilexin is though it seems a bit week when dealing with really bad infections.
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Many human and animal drugs come from the exact same suppliers. There are some differences..for example a common pet antibiotic Baytril is 'enrofloxacin' very similar to cipro, but has one more step necessary in metabolization. Humans have trouble with this step, it isn't recommended.
I would also avoid sulfas -sold as poultry antibiotics in feed stores (a common cause of allergic reaction), chloramphenicol (can cause aplastic anemia in humans), and clindamycin -clindadrops or Antirobe brand names in vet med (for its amazing ability to cause horrible diarrheas).

There is plenty of info available on the web. You can even find the inserts for various products, which will give you dosing information.

A major concern with self medicating is allergic reaction. Many reactions to meds are anaphylactic and therefore deadly.

If you are in doubt about the medication's efficacy in humans, don't use it!

I am a proponent of using alternative therapies whenever possible..herbs and homeopathy are our family's main line of defense. We have used antibiotics approximately twice in the last 20 years.

and never underestimate the powers of a healthy amount of sleep, a good diet of whole foods, and outdoor exercise every day in keeping good health!
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?????????Animal antibiotics not safe for humans?????are you kidding me they are probably just as good if not better.....they wouldnt give a 3 million dollar thorobred horse anything that wasnt just as good .....
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OK all you survivalists, what is the best all-around pet antibiotic for humans. And, how do you figure dosage? By weight, as indicated for the pet?

I am looking to get some just in case...I understand that humans can actually use pet antibiotics safely.
 Quoting: Change Your Priorities


The best antibiotics for people are fish antibiotics. You can buy fish antibiotics online without a prescription. I usually buy here [link to www.shopmedvet.com] because there are low prices and fast delivery.
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don't use antibiotics they will MESS YOU UP! use natural cures (grapefruit seed extract, Oregano, cayenne etc..)
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The animal antibiotics are high quality. Many people have valuable race horses, show dogs and cats and if their antibiotics were not quality the vets would get sued.

Doxycycline, tetracycline, oxytetracycline are available over the counter for live stock in farm supply stores.

Doxycycline is very good because it successfully fights the biowar/new/emerging/chronic diseases.

Like MRSA, Lyme, CFS, Gulf War Illness, MS, arthritis, diabetes, chrones, .
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This right here is the info I would give. Great post. Very cheap and can be found many places on the interwebs.
Doxycycline.Should be in every bodies B.O.B.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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Flagyl - Used for pets and humans....

I know this as I used to be a Vet Tech, and I've been prescribed this for myself by my doctor....
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Flagyl is for fungus not bacteria.
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OK all you survivalists, what is the best all-around pet antibiotic for humans. And, how do you figure dosage? By weight, as indicated for the pet?

I am looking to get some just in case...I understand that humans can actually use pet antibiotics safely.
 Quoting: Change Your Priorities


The best antibiotics for people are fish antibiotics. You can buy fish antibiotics online without a prescription. I usually buy here [link to www.shopmedvet.com] because there are low prices and fast delivery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20364988
All the pet meds say a license is required to order. Any alternatives? Since Amazon no longer carries the stuff. huffy

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Flagyl - Used for pets and humans....

I know this as I used to be a Vet Tech, and I've been prescribed this for myself by my doctor....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 736693


Flagyl is for fungus not bacteria.
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Yes, Flagyl (generic name, metronidazole) is effective against fungi. However, it is also effective against some protozoa (including giardia and endameba organisms commonly transmitted in drinking water that has not been properly disinfected) as well as many pathogenic bacteria, including those that cause some intra-abdominal infections, empyema, infections within joints, and other hard to treat bacterial infections. However, like all medications (including antibiotics) it can cause great harm if administered to the wrong patient or for the wrong reason. Before you consider buying antibiotics, please consider getting a quick education. Here are some reliable sites with the kind of medical information survivalists and preppers can use:

[link to www.doomandbloom.net]

[link to www.thesurvivaldoctor.com]

[link to www.globalanomalies.com]
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Wow, wait just a minute! I do not want to be known as an "Anonymous Coward!" My screen name is CountyRat, my email address (should you care) is ex89168@gmail.com, and knowing and disseminating reliable medical information is how I make my living. There. Anonymus no more!
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hey anyone here using pet meds? fish antibiotics?
why aren't you just getting scrip from the doctor?

I want to hear from you. Send me an email and tell me about your experience.


I'm using amoxicillan and have been for about two years because of a tooth infection that keeps coming back. I have an impacted wisdom tooth that would cost a lot to get pulled but I don't feel like spending the outrageous amount of money to get it pulled.
So if the pain gets bad for a week or so I pop some asprin and every month or two I take amoxicillin for a week or so.


STOP IT.

Amoxicillin is not going to completely remove/kill the infection in your jaw.

You need Cipro [link to www.healthline.com]

Do a course for 3 weeks (21 days) and see if that doesn't kill the infection altogether.

[link to www.rxlist.com] gives a list of dosages. Treat as you would a sinus infection (the whole things up there in your head is connected) But do the course for 3 weeks (21 days) That would be 500 MG twice daily.

However, really read this page: [link to www.medhelp.org] not just the OP's complaint but the rest of the answers.

You are heading down a road where eventually you can lose a jaw bone. Recurring bone infections are not funny, they are not treated with oral antibiotics as a one-shot cure.

You need that tooth yanked, and you need antibiotic gel shot into the socket in order to kill all infection once and for all. Most likely this will be followed with oral antibiotics for up to a month in order to make certain that every last bacteria is dead.
 Quoting: Dr. House


Cephalexin also works for that kind of thing, doesn't it?
 Quoting: D's Pet


Cephalexin is for skin I think. Go to wiki and look at all of it's "discontinued (hm.)" forms..yeah wonder why.
If I recall correctly Cipro was given out to postal workers pointlessly in the anthrax hysteria 10 years ago. At that time it was considered the King Kong of antibiotics and reports of folks getting sick from it too.

All this talk here is scaring me, a poster child for misprescribed antibiotics (my immune system got confused and went berserk and I'll never be the same).
Specifically, virtually overnight 7 years ago I couldn't eat fruit for 4 years, am chemically sensitive to the point I can't walk past fresh blacktop, sick for weeks from pesticides, have countless food allergies, react badly to common herbal remedies and don't even talk to me about pharmaceuticals.
Ironically, so far I rarely suffer from contagion and heal quickly from cuts, breaks or burns, nor am I bothered by seasonal allergies.
Careful people. That's all I'm saying. Antibiotics aren't candy.

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