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Best pet antibiotics for humans?

 
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ok.Really good question.Please excuse my spelling.Have friend that is 80 years old. Ive known her for a long time. She takes fish antibiotics,Like tetracycling,and amoxicyllin. I would not use meds that are for dogs and cats. She cant afford the meds doctors give her so she gets fish meds. She says its works well.Shes being doing this for 20 years now and she is so so so healthy. There my imput.No cat and dog meds fish meds yes
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Those are human antibiotics as well. If she's soo soo healthy, wtf does she take antibiotics for?
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Not sure what the stuff is but I use Vetricyn spray on all the animals and I use it on myself quite often.

Works good, on all of us. =)
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being alergic to amoxicilin could someone tell me the best pet meds non cilin based to take?
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Okay, well, here it is. Finally. I have to wade thru an awful lot of **** in GLP in order to harvest some good info once in a while, but it's worth it when it does show up, like this thread here.
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hey anyone here using pet meds? fish antibiotics?
why aren't you just getting scrip from the doctor?

I want to hear from you. Send me an email and tell me about your experience.
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You live in Canada, where you get free health care. Other people have to pay very dearly for a prescription and a Dr's visit for the same meds they can get online that's made for a fish. If you don't have insurance it's very expensive to get antibiotics.
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All of you idiots abusing antibiotics are creating antibiotic-resistant bacteria (commonly called super bugs). When bacteria contain a plasmid with certain resistance gene to an antibiotic, then keep that plasmid and transfer to other bacteria to cause them to be resistant as well. When people take antibiotics, the resistant bacteria are constantly exposed to the antibiotic and have a reason to keep their antibiotic resistant plasmid. After antibiotics aren't used for a long time, the bacteria will get rid of their plasmid and become susceptible to antibiotics again. Therefore, those that take antibiotics every time they start to cough or get a runny nose are creating super bugs. Of course, they gives people like me a job because we get to create new drugs to kill the bacteria; however, as it gets more difficult and more resistant, pandemics result. Just to let you all know!

Also, as I have access to a NMR machine, I tested the purity of Fish Mox and amoxicillin from a capsule I saved the last time I had an ear infection. Results: Fish Mox-36% pure amoxicillin, Amoxicillin from my pharmacy-98% pure. So, stop being idiots and see a doctor if you are sick. There is a reason they are in college for 12+ years!
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Amoxicillin is the best 'general' broad spectrum antibiotic on the market. It usually comes in a bright red capsule, a chewable tablet or in liquid form (usually a pink cherry flavored mixture used for children, cats and other small critters).

[link to health.yahoo.com] gives a lot of details.

Pet meds and human meds are often exactly the same thing, just sold to vets in smaller dosages (more often) for dogs (from the size of children (under 12) on down and cats.

Dosage:

Here is the rub, Amoxicillin is used to treat many forms of bacterial infection, however depending on the infection the dosage and the course (how long) varies dosages as low as 10 mg/kg to as high as 40 mg/kg depending on what you are treating.

To give a basic idea where to go dose wise.

10 to 30 MG/kg per day is a good rule of thumb. If there is no doctor to diagnose and treat, then stick with the 30 mg/kg per day ( split into two doses morning and evening) to treat most common infections that a person would get without a doctor being readily available.
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Synulox (amoxycillin)
Antirobe (clindamycin)
Ceporex (cephalaxin)
Having worked in the veterinary industry for 14yrs I understand these to be safe (please read contra-indications for the generic version)used at the same dosage as dogs mgs/kg I
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ok.Really good question.Please excuse my spelling.Have friend that is 80 years old. Ive known her for a long time. She takes fish antibiotics,Like tetracycling,and amoxicyllin. I would not use meds that are for dogs and cats. She cant afford the meds doctors give her so she gets fish meds. She says its works well.Shes being doing this for 20 years now and she is so so so healthy. There my imput.No cat and dog meds fish meds yes
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ok.Really good question.Please excuse my spelling.Have friend that is 80 years old. Ive known her for a long time. She takes fish antibiotics,Like tetracycling,and amoxicyllin. I would not use meds that are for dogs and cats. She cant afford the meds doctors give her so she gets fish meds. She says its works well.Shes being doing this for 20 years now and she is so so so healthy. There my imput.No cat and dog meds fish meds yes
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this is the best story u can come up with
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Fishmox. I am taking it now, as is my dog. Get it from the aquarium store. 250 mg pills of amoxicillin. It killed my tooth infection and its working on my dogs ear infection. You can get Keflex at the tractor supply hardware store for your cows. That stuff is golden.
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All of you idiots abusing antibiotics are creating antibiotic-resistant bacteria (commonly called super bugs). . . .

Also, as I have access to a NMR machine, I tested the purity of Fish Mox and amoxicillin from a capsule I saved the last time I had an ear infection. Results: Fish Mox-36% pure amoxicillin, Amoxicillin from my pharmacy-98% pure. So, stop being idiots and see a doctor if you are sick. There is a reason they are in college for 12+ years!
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No, it's not us humans creating antibiotic-resistant bacteria, its the farmers who give antibiotics to ten times more animals than humans. And, they give it to the animals even when not sick.
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Azithromyicin, hands down. It's Zithromax in exactly the same strength. 2 the first day, then 1 aday for 5 days. It doesn't get any easier. It is a good wide spectrum antibiotic, and works on most gommon infections. If you can only have one, this is the one to have. Cipro has some usess also, but is more difficult to use. Cipro has some effectivness against some viruses, so it is worth looking into.
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have used many times with no problems,if they only made pain meds for fish,id cut out doctors for ever
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The animal antibiotics are high quality. Many people have valuable race horses, show dogs and cats and if their antibiotics were not quality the vets would get sued.

Doxycycline, tetracycline, oxytetracycline are available over the counter for live stock in farm supply stores.

Doxycycline is very good because it successfully fights the biowar/new/emerging/chronic diseases.

Like MRSA, Lyme, CFS, Gulf War Illness, MS, arthritis, diabetes, chrones, .
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This is true. All are produced the same.PERIOD.

Most all sell before dates (except food--but not can goods)are simply a marketing ploy to get the consumer to buy new. PERIOD.
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All of you idiots abusing antibiotics are creating antibiotic-resistant bacteria (commonly called super bugs). When bacteria contain a plasmid with certain resistance gene to an antibiotic, then keep that plasmid and transfer to other bacteria to cause them to be resistant as well. When people take antibiotics, the resistant bacteria are constantly exposed to the antibiotic and have a reason to keep their antibiotic resistant plasmid. After antibiotics aren't used for a long time, the bacteria will get rid of their plasmid and become susceptible to antibiotics again. Therefore, those that take antibiotics every time they start to cough or get a runny nose are creating super bugs. Of course, they gives people like me a job because we get to create new drugs to kill the bacteria; however, as it gets more difficult and more resistant, pandemics result. Just to let you all know!

Also, as I have access to a NMR machine, I tested the purity of Fish Mox and amoxicillin from a capsule I saved the last time I had an ear infection. Results: Fish Mox-36% pure amoxicillin, Amoxicillin from my pharmacy-98% pure. So, stop being idiots and see a doctor if you are sick. There is a reason they are in college for 12+ years!
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You are a shill, and a liar. Please go pour your bull shit out to someone that is stupid enough to believe you. Which pharma co. do you work for? Veteranarians depend on the drugs being every bit as good as the ones you take for that nasty PMS. Most of them come from the same factory, and the same batches. The worst condition I have seen with pet meds is being out of date. Since the US government studied expiration dates and effecacy and found little or no degradation over 15 years, I'm not worried about that at all. Please go away, the grown-ups are talking.

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The correct answer is silver

Oregano Oil and other answers here are incorrect to your question as to the single best

Remember, Silver Ions kill anything thats a one celled organism whereas Oregano and others are organic compounds that are very limited and specific in their actions

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If silver is so effective at killing single celled organisms, couldn't this upset your intestinal track's bacterial content? Sounds sketchy to me, not that the rest of the suggestions sound very good either. Sorry I have no suggestion except a healthy diet and plenty of outdoor exercise.
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animal anti biotics are not safe for humans.
they have a very crude method of production.
research will show you i speak the truth.
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Actually same exact factory, nice try though.
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Depends on the infection,

whether gram positive, gram negative, mix or otherwise.
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Ok, don't buy pet drugs for humans. There, I said it.

Having said that, the pills pet vets ship by law must NOT be anything but exactly what they claim to be at the dose they claim to be. When the paramedics arrive on the scene of an overdose, they will looks at the pills on the floor, having no idea where the little kid got them, compare in their book of meds, and if it's penicillin, they will treat the unconscious child for penicillin overdose. Manufacturers would be held liable for the death of this child if they marked up a pill as penicillin, but it was something else.

Human doses are easily Google-able. Just type in the drug and what you're taking it for, and it'll show you a half dozen web sites with milligram and time of day dosing.

But again, don't do this. The AMA and big pharma spent a LOT of money to make this illegal, so until we can change the law...don't break it.

Enough disclaimer? Hope so.
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*bump*

Pet antibiotics, including fish biotics are safe for human consumption.

My dog was on Keflex after a minor surgery with a refill. He didn't need the refill, but I hung on to the script. I got sick so I refilled it, at WALMART. Yes, they do fill pet meds there. Opened the bottle, looked at the pills and they were the exact same keflex pills, same color capsules and stamps on them, but they were prescribed for the dog.

I took them and they worked just as good. Later on, got to talking to a friend of mine who is a cattle rancher that told me that most of those meds are safe for humans, you just have to be smart about it and check a drug reference, as some are not for humans, ie: Baytril.

My sister works for a vet, and she herself has asked the vet to prescribe her something when she came down with strep throat. The antibiotic for pets, that the vet stored was the same damn thing as you pick up at a pharmacy and they work just as well.

Also, my husband ordered himself some fish mox for a bad sinus and strep throat infection. Opened up the bottle (I was concerned about it being fish meds at first) and looked at the capsules. Same capsules we have seen before. If they are coming from a trusted source, and are pharmaceutical grade, then I would trust it. There is one source here in the U.S. that makes pet medications, and some of these meds comes from the same factories they are made for humans in.

Most of the time, when I come down with an infection now, I hit it with oil of oregano and colloidal silver, and it's DONE. So I don't have much use for the antibiotics, but if I do, it's good to know I can have access to something I know that I need.

No $75 office visit to the doctor for them to look at me with a flash light, say I have a sinus infection, then write a script and send me on the way. This game is a bunch of bull. Doctors are good for more serious things, that you yourself can't handle.

Also, be careful taking too many antibiotics and if / when you do take them, finish the entire course.

If you're not getting better, be smart and go to a doctor.
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Hi guys, check:

vires5.com or vires5.nl

Vires5 kills bacteria fungus and viresses. It has a long time high level redox wich eliminates on a natural way.

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Back in the 90s, I had a lung infection and couldn't afford to see a doctor...out of work. Having some left-over Ampicillin from a fish I had, I took some. It worked and I got well. When it happened again, I went to the pet store and bought some more. I didn't need a doctor to tell me I needed an antibiotic.

Haven't had to do it since, but did buy some Amoxicillin for fish from an online pet store just in case of that "pandemic" and put the unopened bottle in the freezer. It just might save my life or that of someone else.
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You Don't ever want to put an antibiotic in the freezer! The temp is too low and will break down the antibiotic. You should research that, some antibiotics can become poisonous is frozen over time.
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Most of the fish / bird antibiotics are made by the same LARGE pharmaceutical companies that make the human antibiotics on the same production line.

It has been widely reported that as they near the 1/2 -3/4 life of their (stamped) storage cycle (usually 5 years) they are switched from being sold on the human supply chain to the vetinary supply chain.

Many of those available via the vet supply houses are near the end of their "stamped" (5 year) storage time.

A few years back DARPA and the DoD did a study of efficacy of expired antibiotics and concluded that most retained 90% + efficacy at 10 years out from manufacturing (most are stamped with a MAXIMUM of 5 years from date of manufacture, but there is NO testing wrt determining that date).

There used to be a problem with utilizing Tetracycline which could decompose into some dangerous substances after a few years, but the manufacturing was changed for that about 15 years ago and that drug is reported to no longer have that issue if used well past the expiration date.

fwiw IF the stamped expiration time is LESS than 5 years from date of manufacture then there would probably be a scientific reason and I personally would conclude that the chemical compound is not nearly as stable and I would stay away from anything past the deadline.

"Self Medication" is common in many countries ... though the AMA has lobbied extensively against it here in the US, thus the required Dr. visit (though for most simple ailments a pharmicist or physician assistant could easily diagnose and recommend an appropriate course of anti-biotic treatment).

IF you are going to do this you will want to know what the standard dosages are for YOU for your SIMPLE ailments (anything other than a for YOU typical ailment SHOULD have a Dr. visit). You may also want to pick up a pocket Diagnosis Guide with recommended antibiotic dosing levels and treatment length, such as many Doctors carry in their pocket.
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Silver as an anti-microbial. I'm not being cute. Research it. Silver is one of the world's best antibiotics.
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... like all medications (including antibiotics) it can cause great harm if administered to the wrong patient or for the wrong reason.

Before you consider buying antibiotics, please consider getting a quick education. Here are some reliable sites with the kind of medical information survivalists and preppers can use:
[link to www.doomandbloom.net]

[link to www.thesurvivaldoctor.com]

[link to www.globalanomalies.com]
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Im sorry, I could not help but read some of the replies. First of all, most fish and avian antibiotics are exact repackaged human antibiotics. Don't ask me how I know because you will never get my reply. Have you done some research as to what it takes to make antibiotics? ?? Not worth starting new production line, staff, research, researchers, Chem labs, and etc... so they simply grab off the shelf material for less significant beings, those being fish, birds...if you also do some more in depth research you'll see that 500mg amox is exactly same color cap, same print, same manufacturer, only difference is bottle. . This goes for cypro, keflex, clindamycin, amixicillin at least. Also, tons of independent analysis of efficacy of such meds was performed by many researchers , unis, et al.. which found most meds retained 90% of their efficacy over 10 years past their stated due dates if stored in cool dry place. Most of these common meds were found to be at least 75% or more effective even 20 years after stated expiration dates. Now, if you are stuck in an emergency with no healthcare service, will you take a 15 year old fishmox 500 ??? You can go crawl and die but 75% efficecy is effective by my book. I'm taking it and doubling its dose, that'll be 150% as good as any " SO CALLED HUMAN GRADE" stuff. This is your anonymous ...good day
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Im sorry, I could not help but read some of the replies. First of all, most fish and avian antibiotics are exact repackaged human antibiotics. Don't ask me how I know because you will never get my reply. Have you done some research as to what it takes to make antibiotics? ?? Not worth starting new production line, staff, research, researchers, Chem labs, and etc... so they simply grab off the shelf material for less significant beings, those being fish, birds...if you also do some more in depth research you'll see that 500mg amox is exactly same color cap, same print, same manufacturer, only difference is bottle. . This goes for cypro, keflex, clindamycin, amixicillin at least. Also, tons of independent analysis of efficacy of such meds was performed by many researchers , unis, et al.. which found most meds retained 90% of their efficacy over 10 years past their stated due dates if stored in cool dry place. Most of these common meds were found to be at least 75% or more effective even 20 years after stated expiration dates. Now, if you are stuck in an emergency with no healthcare service, will you take a 15 year old fishmox 500 ??? You can go crawl and die but 75% efficecy is effective by my book. I'm taking it and doubling its dose, that'll be 150% as good as any " SO CALLED HUMAN GRADE" stuff. This is your anonymous ...good day
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A lot of ignorance in this thread
Pet antibiotics are essentially "safe" for humans. The biggest inhibitor is the human. There is "best" antibiotic because it's going to depend on the bacterial infection you're dealing with as well as your own allergies, etc. There are an assortment of antibiotic "families" to choose from.
I'd suggest picking up an antibiotic manual to go in your kit as well.
Beyond that, while still a part of society, go to doctor for whatever sickness. If he's going to give you a prescription for an antibiotic just read what type and what dosage and just follow that with your pet antibiotic.
Pet antibiotics are often manufactured by the exact same manufacturer as the human antibiotics. They just get put in different bottles(otherwise, even the capsules are the exact same because they have to be). The first time I had an encounter with such was when a friend(who I was apprenticing under for survival training) gave me some doxycycline he had for his horses when we thought I might have lyme from a tick. Right on the bottle provided by the vet, it gave human dosage, etc with a sticker over it saying "Not for human use".
Check out this website for more information from someone that has done ACTUAL indepth research on the matter(he also recommends a pet med distributor which I have to agree with-I'm actually in process of searching when I found this thread and his recommendation seems to have the best deals):

[link to www.truthistreason.net]
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Guide to Veterinary Drugs for Human Consumption, Post-SHTF

Posted on Jun 17, 2012 in Emergency Preparedness & Survival, Featured Articles, Health, Food News, & Big Pharma, Urban Gardening, Farming & Homesteading
KEVIN HAYDEN – TRUTHISTREASON.NET

In times of uncertainty, we humans like to stockpile and hoard. We seek information that will keep us safe and provide for our well-being. One of these topics will invariably center around medical knowledge or first-aid in case of an accident, sickness, or injury. Many of us already have a well-rounded medical kit, or basic skills in how to treat traumatic injuries. But one question I see and hear a lot of people talk about is medicine, and their lack of concrete, factual information when it comes to antibiotics – and specifically, whether it is safe to use animal antibiotics in humans.
Many other questions typically revolve around,
“Where can I find prescription-quality medicines?”
“My doctor won’t prescribe me common antibiotics for long-term disasters or bugging out.”
“What medicines should I stockpile?”

What this article will attempt to provide is the answer to these very questions, and more. While I am no fan of Big Pharma, I understand the amazing capabilities and modern need for some medicines, such as Doxycycline, Amoxicillin, and Penicillin. There are many natural antibiotics, and antibacterials, in nature. They surround us and like any medicine, require a bit of know-how and understanding in order to administer properly. Proper nutrition also plays a vital role in maintaining our health, but what about suffering cuts, punctures, or infections when there are no hospitals and doctors anymore?
Many people can’t convince their doctor into writing extraneous prescriptions for a, “What-if?” scenario.
So I set out to discover how to obtain and properly use modern, Big Pharma antibiotics in case of a tumultuous, long-term disaster, as I’m sure many of you foresee, as well.
The Answer Lies Within Veterinarian Drugs.
It’s not a big secret that veterinary antibiotics and drugs do not require a prescription. Drugs such as Fish-MOX clearly state on their label, “For Aquarium and Fish Use Only.” But are they truly only for fish? Are these antibiotics any different than what my pharmacist gives me?
When I started my research, all I found was information from pseudo-doctors and “scientists” from across the internet. I found page after page of conflicting information regarding the human consumption of animal antibiotics. Many people with several initials behind their name gave me a variety of answers or simply beat around the bush. One MD would say XYZ, and another doctor would tell me ABC. Some would say that they thought it would be safe to use veterinarian drugs, but only in dire times or as a last resort. Others would warn against it entirely, and yet some would encourage their use in everyday applications. And so I set out to find the Truth. I wanted concrete information on the safety and efficacy of this particular endeavor.
Let’s talk about what your other option is and get that out of the way.
You’ve likely seen the internet ads for generic versions of prescriptions from Canada or Mexico. They offer great prices and no questions asked. But like anything that seems too good to be true, they mostly are. Health regulations and quality control can be absent, to say the least. Many of these “pills” are manufactured by an unorthodox “3rd shift” at the normal plant, but have no oversight and their often-criminal motive is only black market profit. Some are simply made in a dirty kitchen or backyard shack.
While I’m well aware that the pharmaceutical industry’s main goal is profit, as well, they also have lawyers and a board of directors to answer to. I’ll leave my true, personal feelings of the “Pill Industry” out of this article and focus on how you can stockpile safe antibiotics.
The list of safety risks in using black market medicines is long, but the principal problems involve the use of prescription drugs without the proper knowledge in administration and the danger of buying drugs of unknown origin and quality. Daniel Hancz, Pharm.D., a pharmacist with the Health Authority Law Enforcement Task Force (HALT) in Los Angeles, says, “The drugs could be old, contaminated, or counterfeit. And if you experience some kind of allergic reaction or other side effect, it’s hard to trace the problem and treat it.”
The FDA estimates that a significant amount of drugs available in Mexico may be counterfeit (Source: FDA Initiative to Combat Counterfeit Drugs). Some of these medicines can contain “filler material” in order to lower manufacturing costs, and these can range from excess wood pulp (cellulose), to baking powder, petroleum by-products, or other, potentially dangerous substances. Either way, this is not something that you want in your bug-out bag only to find out it is worthless in your time of need or creates further medical problems that you can’t treat!
So, go ahead and mark that avenue of prepping off your list. Do not buy from questionable, fly-by-night, internet-based “Doctors” with no business ratings or certifications and avoid wasting your money while on vacation in Mexico. So where does that leave us? How can we find quality medicines without a prescription for truly legitimate concerns and uses?
As I said; Veterinarian Drugs. These Do Not Require a Prescription.
Yes, that might sound more dangerous than buying pills from a Mexican street corner, but I assure you, it is not. USP-approved animal pharmaceuticals are often made in the same manufacturing plants as human pharmaceuticals and will contain the same ingredients. They are the same color, shape, and bare the same markings as human drugs. This likely boils down to cost-effectiveness for Big Pharma, but for once, is also in your interest and favor.
Allow me to explain. Every “drug” manufactured, sold, or brought into the United States must pass FDA regulations (don’t get me started on the FDA), and is listed within the United States Pharmacopeia, or USP. This is a compendium recognized officially by the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act that contains descriptions, uses, strengths, and standards of purity for selected drugs and for all of their forms of dosage.
Use of the USP Verified Pharmaceutical Ingredient Mark helps ingredient manufacturers assure their customers that the quality of the ingredients they are supplying has been rigorously tested and verified by an independent authority. When the mark appears on an ingredient container or carton, it represents that USP has evaluated the ingredient and found that:
1. The participant’s quality system helps to ensure that the ingredient meets its label or certificate of analysis claims for identity, strength, purity, and quality.
2. The ingredient has been prepared under accepted good manufacturing practices (GMP) that ensure consistency in the quality of ingredients from batch to batch.
3. The ingredient meets its specifications’ acceptance criteria.
So what does all of this FDA jargon mean? Overall, it translates to assuring you that if you see an animal drug that is labeled, “UPS Pharmaceutical grade Amoxicillin,” it is the exact same pharmaceutical grade Amoxicillin that your doctor would prescribe you for various infections.
As for the identification or verification process, should you still feel uneasy, we can look to the FDA (yet again, ugh).

Per the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act ( [link to edocket.access.gpo.gov] each capsule, tablet, or pill must be uniquely marked. Two tablets with identical colors, shapes, and markings cannot, by law, have different ingredients. This is for a variety of reasons, but not limited to assisting Poison Control hotlines, hospitals, doctors, etc., in determining what someone might have ingested, overdosed on, or is causing side effects.

These markings, colors, tablet shape and other identifying information can be found in medical reference texts, but now, we can use resources such as WebMD, Drugs.com, RxList.com, and many verified smartphone applications such as iPharmacy that can quickly and easily identify drugs should you need to. As a former police officer, I carried a pocket-sized guide to pill identification in my gear bag and it proved invaluable.
Still not convinced? Above is a picture of a 250mg Amoxicillin capsule. It is imprinted with ‘Westward 938.’

This is a pharmaceutical grade, USP-approved, safe-for-human antibiotic that can be verified on the pill identification site, Drugs.com. This is also the exact same pill that I received from the veterinarian supply when I ordered a bottle of 250mg Fish-Mox. That means it came from the same manufacturer, and contains the exact same ingredients as the medication I can pickup at Walgreens or CVS.


Update: Since first writing this article, I have ordered additional medications. Above is a picture of the Fish-Mox Forte (500mg Amoxicillin) received from Cal-Vet Supply. The Drugs.com Pill Identification Fact Sheet for this capsule identifies it as Amoxicillin 500 mg.
It is a red and pink capsule, with the markings WC 731 on both sides.
HAYDEN’S NOTE:

Now, as I always tell my readers, don’t take my word for it and trust no one! I urge you to carefully examine markings, manufacturers, color, and every available bit of information that you can garner when dealing with medications and making a decision to take them without “physician’s approval.” My goal here is to help you discover alternatives, but the proper identification, verification, dosage, and diagnosis is ultimately up to you and your own research. I implore you to proceed with caution – we are talking about Big Pharma, here.
Where Do I Find Veterinary Drugs?
So this brings us to the question, “What sort of veterinary drugs do I need and where can I find them?”
Well, this mostly boils down to what you are comfortable with and prepared to use in whatever future, post-SHTF scenario you are prepping for. Some of the more common, everyday antibiotics have already been mentioned, such as Doxycycline, Amoxicillin, Cephalexin, Penicillin, and Ciprofloxacin – commonly referred to as Cipro.
We will get into these in greater detail shortly, but this requires you to exercise caution and take your own risks. I would like to add that your doctor takes these very same risks when he prescribes you an antibiotic in which you’ve never had before. There is always a chance of side effects or allergic reaction, therefore I suggest that you stock only what you need and what you have taken before.
Personally, I’ve taken every single one of the above mentioned medications under proper “medical supervision” at some point in my life and I know that I am not allergic, therefore I stock them. I have also taken several veterinary versions of these same medications for various infections, including a severe tooth abscess. It would be wise for whoever is in charge of your medical preps to have a list of everyone’s medical allergies and any contra-indications.
There are a variety of sources for these antibiotics, but a few of them really stand out as quality, mainstream suppliers.
My first suggestion would be Cal-Vet Supply.
While I have absolutely no business affiliation or interest in them, I have used them in the past and Cal-Vet Supply would be my first choice based upon quality, ease of ordering, selection, and cost. You may find several others, but this is my go-to source.
What Do I Need?
I’ll simply provide a short list of some of the more common antibiotics, their veterinary named-counterparts, and allow you to tailor it to your specific needs or criteria.
Penicillin
Penicillin is an antibiotic in the penicillin group of drugs. It fights bacteria in your body.
Penicillin is used to treat many different types of infections caused by bacteria, such as ear infections, urinary tract infections, septicemia, meningitis, intra-abdominal infection, gonorrhea, syphilis, pneumonia, respiratory infections, ear, nose and throat infections, skin and soft tissue infections.
More information can be found here, including side effects, allergic reactions, etc.
Veterinarian Equivalent: 250mg Fish Pen and 500mg Fish Pen Forte
Amoxicillin
A penicillin antibiotic. It fights bacteria in your body.
Amoxicillin is used to treat many different types of infections caused by bacteria, such as ear infections, bladder infections, pneumonia, gonorrhea, and E. coli or salmonella infection.
More information can be found here, including side effects, allergic reactions, etc.
Veterinarian Equivalent: 250mg Fish Mox (for children) and 500mg Fish Mox Forte (for adults).
Ciprofloxacin, or Cipro
Ciprofloxacin is an antibiotic in a group of drugs called fluoroquinolones. It is used as a potent, broad-spectrum antibiotic to fight bacteria in the body.
It may also be used to prevent or slow anthrax after exposure.
More information can be found here, including side effects, allergic reactions, etc.
Veterinarian Equivalent: 500mg Fish Flox Forte
Cephalexin, or Keflex
Cephalexin is in a group of drugs called cephalosporin antibiotics. Keflex fights bacteria in the body.
Keflex is used to treat infections caused by bacteria, including upper respiratory infections, ear infections, skin infections, urinary tract infections, tooth and mouth infections.
More information can be found here, including side effects, allergic reactions, etc.
Veterinarian Equivalent: 250mg Fish Flex and 500mg Fish Flex Forte
Doxycycline
Doxycycline is a tetracycline antibiotic. It fights bacteria in the body. It may be substituted in place of penicillin to treat common infections in those people who are allergic to that particular drug.
Doxycycline is used to treat many different bacterial infections, such as urinary tract infections, acne, gonorrhea, and chlamydia, Lyme disease or tick bite infections, anthrax infections, cholera, periodontitis (gum disease), and others.
Exercise caution with expired Doxycycline / tetracycline and -cycline medications. There has been some documentation of liver damage and some have even labeled it toxic if used past the expiration date. However, Doxycycline provides a great alternative to penicillin medications for those who are allergic.
More information can be found here, including side effects, allergic reactions, etc.
Veterinarian Equivalent: 100mg Bird Biotic
DOSAGES AND NOTES REGARDING VETERINARY DRUGS

Joseph Alton, MD, is a medical doctor and Fellow of the American College of Surgeons and the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology. He is also a prepper, and writes:
“These antibiotics are used at specific doses for specific illnesses; the exact dosage of each and every medication is beyond the scope of this [article]. Suffice it to say that most penicillin and cephalosporin (Keflex and other cephalexin) medications are taken at 500mg dosages, 3-4 times a day for adults, and 250mg dosages for children, whereas Metronidazole (250mg) and Doxycycline (100mg) are taken twice a day.
It’s important to have as much information as possible on medications that you plan to store for times of trouble, so consider purchasing a hard copy of the latest Physician’s Desk Reference. This book comes out yearly and has just about every bit of information that exists on a particular medication, including those that do not require prescription. Indications, dosage, risks, and side effects are all listed.”
In Closing
Dr. Alton ends with a great reminder regarding the state of affairs that we might one day find ourselves in:

“If we ever find ourselves without modern medical care, we will have to improvise medical strategies that we perhaps might be reluctant to consider today. Without hospitals, it will be up to the [field] medic to treat infections. That responsibility will be difficult to carry out without the weapons to fight disease, such as antibiotics.
Alternative therapies should be looked at carefully, as well. Honey and garlic have known antibacterial actions, as do a number of herbs and essential oils. Be sure to integrate all medical options, traditional and alternative, and use every tool at your disposal to keep your community healthy.”
I urge you to verify and check all medications that you order with a reputable pill identification book or website in order to make sure you truly receive what you ordered.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Kevin Hayden is a former New Orleans police officer-turned-political activist. He endured Hurricane Katrina’s chaos and societal collapse in the days following and after 5 years in New Orleans, moved to Oklahoma. Kevin currently runs www.TruthisTreason.net and writes about issues pertaining to our monetary, food, and foreign policies while building an off-grid homestead and helping people become prepared. He can be contacted directly at Contact@TruthisTreason.net or via his website.
The above information should not be taken as direct medical or legal advice. Kevin Hayden is not a qualified medical practitioner nor lawyer. First published February 17th, 2012.
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Re: Best pet antibiotics for humans?
Soldiers take it because they view illness as weakness in the ranks.

I won't give you any ideas, it's the same stuff but the dosage is different and the delivery method can be different as well.

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