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Those who claim to possess knowledge, but refuse to share it, are not being "charitable" but "elitist".

Actually the word "coward" is more appropos.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Like the Zetas/Nancy Lieder not sharing the actual date of PX supposed passage.

Any more double standards you'd like to expose, Zetamax?
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Very good point.
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My wife and I had an absolutely wonderful dinner at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse last Friday night with Max's gift cards. I had to add a bit since the bill was over $150, but worth every penny.

Hey Max, care to make any more bets about Clif's predictions?

Hap
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How ironic, that Hap would celebrate with a BIG LIE! He said on an earlier post that he was going to use the cards for VALENTINE'S DAY. But instead, he used them last Friday.

:oh_irony:
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Yes, I did change my mind. It happened to be a convenient time for both of us, so we went that night. And it was very good, too...$150 worth good.
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My wife and I had an absolutely wonderful dinner at Ruth's Chris Steakhouse last Friday night with Max's gift cards. I had to add a bit since the bill was over $150, but worth every penny.

Hey Max, care to make any more bets about Clif's predictions?

Hap
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How ironic, that Hap would celebrate with a BIG LIE! He said on an earlier post that he was going to use the cards for VALENTINE'S DAY. But instead, he used them last Friday.

oh_irony
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The only oh_irony here is your willing arrogance, in light of your very own long track record of lies on our thread, in labelling ANY other poster here a liar.

Melfy your ability to "deprogramme" yourself from the ways of Nancy LIEDer appears to be a near impossible task.

Your above false accusation against Hap has got to be one of the most pathetic statements that you have ever made on our thread....and man is that saying alot.
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What would you call it then? You admit she "hears" voices in her head that tell her she is important and tell her information that is wrong time and time again, yet she continues to heed those voices. Or maybe she doesn't really hear voices. Maybe she is just making it all up.
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ohyeah Yes indeed....well more specifically I concluded years ago that Nancy LIEDer has basically "added" her own little twist to information/ideas already plagiarized from sources other than herself. As already stated many a time on this thread; Ms LIEDer's greatest FAILING was to put "dates" to her many predicted "doom" claims.

lol4me Apart from her many BS rantings the lady from Wisconsin simply runs out of time with each and every BS prediction.

Unfortunately the "serious" side to her rantings is that a few well meaning folk all over the globe, and their families in some cases, suffer for the worse because of her direct influence.

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Things I haven't cared to discuss are not necessarily "ignored" by me. There are many and varied things of which I have knowledge and/or opinion which I have no desire to discuss with you.
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You are a pompous ass who is just as full of shit as ZM.
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+1

Occam's Razor suggests you are right.

Anyone who believes ZetaTalk comes from an 'intelligence' beyond Nancy needs their own head looking at!
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I have said it for years. Nancy is possessed by whatever "Zetas" is.
 Quoting: Menow 611111


True enough - but you've refused to discuss or speculate beyond that statement. Which means that the question "TO WHAT END" is one you simply ignore. This of course makes your "ethical outrage" rather "faux".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Things I haven't cared to discuss are not necessarily "ignored" by me. There are many and varied things of which I have knowledge and/or opinion which I have no desire to discuss with you.
 Quoting: Menow 611111


I said IGNORED, not "overlooked". I suggest looking up the word. I just find it so disingenuous that you will freely regard others as violently ignorant, and then in the next breath, refuse to be an "educator". That just reveals an individual that celebrates such ignorance, rather than being an adversary of it - no matter how much "protest" you offer up. "By their fruits ye shall know them". Those who claim to possess knowledge, but refuse to share it, are not being "charitable" but "elitist".

Actually the word "coward" is more appropos.
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I suggest that you fuck right off.
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True enough - but you've refused to discuss or speculate beyond that statement. Which means that the question "TO WHAT END" is one you simply ignore. This of course makes your "ethical outrage" rather "faux".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Things I haven't cared to discuss are not necessarily "ignored" by me. There are many and varied things of which I have knowledge and/or opinion which I have no desire to discuss with you.
 Quoting: Menow 611111


I said IGNORED, not "overlooked". I suggest looking up the word. I just find it so disingenuous that you will freely regard others as violently ignorant, and then in the next breath, refuse to be an "educator". That just reveals an individual that celebrates such ignorance, rather than being an adversary of it - no matter how much "protest" you offer up. "By their fruits ye shall know them". Those who claim to possess knowledge, but refuse to share it, are not being "charitable" but "elitist".

Actually the word "coward" is more appropos.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I suggest that you fuck right off.
 Quoting: Menow 611111


So predictable - that's all you got left in your war chest, isn't it?
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Ah, so he's started to back pedal already. Not surprising considering his record of FAIL. Also not surprising - you bought it. Considering how much effort you put in to promoting his dire prediction the last couple of weeks - if it doesn't happen, we WILL call it another failure....for both of you.

So, yes, we are getting ready. Ready for another failure.

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Clif also said back in 2010 that November 2010 the shit would hit the fan. He said it would be bigger than 911, that everyone would be talking about it. We all know how that worked out, with Clif backtracking and doing acrobatics. You never learn, do you Max? The guy is a scam artist. It's pretty plain and simple to those of us that have a discerning mind.
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At time 55:45 Clif reiterates that 1.289 BILLION people will die starting March 2nd. But he says it's only a "possibility" so you can't call it a FAIL if it doesn't happen.
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Then I guess you also can't call it a HIT if it DOES happen!
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Those who claim to possess knowledge, but refuse to share it, are not being "charitable" but "elitist".

Actually the word "coward" is more appropos.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Hmmm...sounds a lot like Nancy doesn't it, Max? Oh, I'm sorry - the "Zetas." After all, they claim to know the date of the "pole shift" yet refuse to share that knowledge...claiming it's for our own good. And yet you did your best to promote ZetaTalk for years. Care to explain that?
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Of course, he will not.
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At time 55:45 Clif reiterates that 1.289 BILLION people will die starting March 2nd. But he says it's only a "possibility" so you can't call it a FAIL if it doesn't happen. He also said that the "survivors" won't like being around.

I'd say that means ... GET READY!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


ohyeah I'd say that means ... GET READY!!!.....yeah!!

To lolatu dipshit!!

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Clif also said back in 2010 that November 2010 the shit would hit the fan. He said it would be bigger than 911, that everyone would be talking about it. We all know how that worked out, with Clif backtracking and doing acrobatics. You never learn, do you Max? The guy is a scam artist. It's pretty plain and simple to those of us that have a discerning mind.
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>> to those of us that have a discerning mind.

And you know that from the manufacturer's tag hanging from your ear?

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Those who claim to possess knowledge, but refuse to share it, are not being "charitable" but "elitist".

Actually the word "coward" is more appropos.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Hmmm...sounds a lot like Nancy doesn't it, Max? Oh, I'm sorry - the "Zetas." After all, they claim to know the date of the "pole shift" yet refuse to share that knowledge...claiming it's for our own good. And yet you did your best to promote ZetaTalk for years. Care to explain that?
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Of course, he will not.
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It's all in the PAST ...
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It's all in the PAST ...
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TRANSLATION:
I overlook and ignore all of Clif's failures.
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Things I haven't cared to discuss are not necessarily "ignored" by me. There are many and varied things of which I have knowledge and/or opinion which I have no desire to discuss with you.
 Quoting: Menow 611111


I said IGNORED, not "overlooked". I suggest looking up the word. I just find it so disingenuous that you will freely regard others as violently ignorant, and then in the next breath, refuse to be an "educator". That just reveals an individual that celebrates such ignorance, rather than being an adversary of it - no matter how much "protest" you offer up. "By their fruits ye shall know them". Those who claim to possess knowledge, but refuse to share it, are not being "charitable" but "elitist".

Actually the word "coward" is more appropos.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I suggest that you fuck right off.
 Quoting: Menow 611111


So predictable - that's all you got left in your war chest, isn't it?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Heh. It beats the heck out of your pathetic baiting attempts.
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It's all in the PAST ...
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TRANSLATION:
I overlook and ignore all of Clif's failures.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I don't think in terms of "success" and "failure". That's way too "black and white". The world is more infinite shades of gray.
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I don't think in terms of "success" and "failure". That's way too "black and white". The world is more infinite shades of gray.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Spin, spin, spin. Many things are simply black and white - true or false. Something either exists or it does not. A prediction either happens or it FAILS.
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I don't think in terms of "success" and "failure". That's way too "black and white". The world is more infinite shades of gray.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Spin, spin, spin. Many things are simply black and white - true or false. Something either exists or it does not. A prediction either happens or it FAILS.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Exactly!
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It's all in the PAST ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


TRANSLATION:
I overlook and ignore all of Clif's failures.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I don't think in terms of "success" and "failure". That's way too "black and white". The world is more infinite shades of gray.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Will this brainless oink never stop or learn ?
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I don't think in terms of "success" and "failure". That's way too "black and white". The world is more infinite shades of gray.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Spin, spin, spin. Many things are simply black and white - true or false. Something either exists or it does not. A prediction either happens or it FAILS.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Clif has been talking about a 2012 "Data Gap" since I first encountered his material around 2007. The bottom line is, we've HAD all the crisis he's discussed. What he was not able to pull from the data was HOW hyper-inflation would unfold.

WE HAVE HYPER-INFLATION. PERIOD.

It's just that it has been largely *contained* in the cloud of DERIVATIVES. The whole derivative SCAM is so unprecedented, that it is difficult to contemplate how "ordinary" humans could accurately forecast it. The FED and the world's central banks are "creating" (since "printing" is not what they actually do anymore) TRILLIONS of "dollars", "euros" - you name it. We haven't experienced Weimar Germany effects because the fact is, most of the economy is now CONTROLLED and CENTRALLY PLANNED. At the very tippy top of vast multi-national corporations, mere "money" is no longer a factor in dictating the supply or demand of any significant commodity. It's a factor for the corner independantly owned convenience store, but not for "7-11" (or more specifically - Southland Corporation [or more likely LLC]). But even the corner convenience store gets most if not all of its goods from huge multi-national distributors - whose inventory is not determined by "money", but by COORDINATION on a scale so vast, it is unprecedented in recent human history.

It's also why we're SCREWED - because if that system ever truly BREAKS for ANY reason whatsoever (war, solar flares, data disaster [IT problems are a REAL hazard]) we're gonna be out of EVERYTHING, ... OVERNIGHT.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what Clif sees taking shape beginning March 2nd.

Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
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Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
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Let's hope you wise the fuck up "soon".....and refrain yourself from repeating Clify's crappedee crap on our thread. For all our sakes.
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Clif has been talking about a 2012 "Data Gap" since I first encountered his material around 2007. The bottom line is, we've HAD all the crisis he's discussed. What he was not able to pull from the data was HOW hyper-inflation would unfold.

WE HAVE HYPER-INFLATION. PERIOD.

It's just that it has been largely *contained* in the cloud of DERIVATIVES. The whole derivative SCAM is so unprecedented, that it is difficult to contemplate how "ordinary" humans could accurately forecast it. The FED and the world's central banks are "creating" (since "printing" is not what they actually do anymore) TRILLIONS of "dollars", "euros" - you name it. We haven't experienced Weimar Germany effects because the fact is, most of the economy is now CONTROLLED and CENTRALLY PLANNED. At the very tippy top of vast multi-national corporations, mere "money" is no longer a factor in dictating the supply or demand of any significant commodity. It's a factor for the corner independantly owned convenience store, but not for "7-11" (or more specifically - Southland Corporation [or more likely LLC]). But even the corner convenience store gets most if not all of its goods from huge multi-national distributors - whose inventory is not determined by "money", but by COORDINATION on a scale so vast, it is unprecedented in recent human history.

It's also why we're SCREWED - because if that system ever truly BREAKS for ANY reason whatsoever (war, solar flares, data disaster [IT problems are a REAL hazard]) we're gonna be out of EVERYTHING, ... OVERNIGHT.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what Clif sees taking shape beginning March 2nd.

Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it. Nor did they rely on some "web-bots" to come up with the information...although I suspect that Clif didn't either. More than likely he's simply regurgitating information out there and simply putting his own spin on it before selling it as his own to gullible individuals like you.
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Clif has been talking about a 2012 "Data Gap" since I first encountered his material around 2007. The bottom line is, we've HAD all the crisis he's discussed. What he was not able to pull from the data was HOW hyper-inflation would unfold.

WE HAVE HYPER-INFLATION. PERIOD.

It's just that it has been largely *contained* in the cloud of DERIVATIVES. The whole derivative SCAM is so unprecedented, that it is difficult to contemplate how "ordinary" humans could accurately forecast it. The FED and the world's central banks are "creating" (since "printing" is not what they actually do anymore) TRILLIONS of "dollars", "euros" - you name it. We haven't experienced Weimar Germany effects because the fact is, most of the economy is now CONTROLLED and CENTRALLY PLANNED. At the very tippy top of vast multi-national corporations, mere "money" is no longer a factor in dictating the supply or demand of any significant commodity. It's a factor for the corner independantly owned convenience store, but not for "7-11" (or more specifically - Southland Corporation [or more likely LLC]). But even the corner convenience store gets most if not all of its goods from huge multi-national distributors - whose inventory is not determined by "money", but by COORDINATION on a scale so vast, it is unprecedented in recent human history.

It's also why we're SCREWED - because if that system ever truly BREAKS for ANY reason whatsoever (war, solar flares, data disaster [IT problems are a REAL hazard]) we're gonna be out of EVERYTHING, ... OVERNIGHT.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what Clif sees taking shape beginning March 2nd.

Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it. Nor did they rely on some "web-bots" to come up with the information...although I suspect that Clif didn't either. More than likely he's simply regurgitating information out there and simply putting his own spin on it before selling it as his own to gullible individuals like you.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Clif's "bottom line" is the DATA GAP. Ever since I started following him in 2012, it was nothing but data gap, Data Gap, DATA GAP. The data gap basically means that there was NOTHING that referrenced 2012 beyond the March timeframe.

Well guess what, many psychics - many I read over a DECADE ago, talked about not seeing ANYTHING in the year 2012. Same with remote viewers.

As to what CAUSES this "wall" for future seerers, *that* is largely an exercise in speculation. Clif has always been of the opinion that the data gap means the breakdown of the internet and global communications. The question is - what causes THAT???

Don't know - and Clif doesn't know either, but he "suspects" that it might be global thermo-nuclear war. He HOPES for a better outcome, but even his best case scenario involves at least a temporary loss of the internet, complete monetary collapse, famine and societal disruption, migration and disintegration on scale never before seen in human history. The good news in his "best case" scenario, is that our "oppressors" (the global financial elite) are eliminated. But that doesn't come without a cost - and a STEEP one at that.

Any other scenario is too depressing to even contemplate or go into.
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Clif has been talking about a 2012 "Data Gap" since I first encountered his material around 2007. The bottom line is, we've HAD all the crisis he's discussed. What he was not able to pull from the data was HOW hyper-inflation would unfold.

WE HAVE HYPER-INFLATION. PERIOD.

It's just that it has been largely *contained* in the cloud of DERIVATIVES. The whole derivative SCAM is so unprecedented, that it is difficult to contemplate how "ordinary" humans could accurately forecast it. The FED and the world's central banks are "creating" (since "printing" is not what they actually do anymore) TRILLIONS of "dollars", "euros" - you name it. We haven't experienced Weimar Germany effects because the fact is, most of the economy is now CONTROLLED and CENTRALLY PLANNED. At the very tippy top of vast multi-national corporations, mere "money" is no longer a factor in dictating the supply or demand of any significant commodity. It's a factor for the corner independantly owned convenience store, but not for "7-11" (or more specifically - Southland Corporation [or more likely LLC]). But even the corner convenience store gets most if not all of its goods from huge multi-national distributors - whose inventory is not determined by "money", but by COORDINATION on a scale so vast, it is unprecedented in recent human history.

It's also why we're SCREWED - because if that system ever truly BREAKS for ANY reason whatsoever (war, solar flares, data disaster [IT problems are a REAL hazard]) we're gonna be out of EVERYTHING, ... OVERNIGHT.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what Clif sees taking shape beginning March 2nd.

Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it. Nor did they rely on some "web-bots" to come up with the information...although I suspect that Clif didn't either. More than likely he's simply regurgitating information out there and simply putting his own spin on it before selling it as his own to gullible individuals like you.
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>> Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it.

What a simpleton you are. Are these "economists" earning their daily bread squeegeeing car windows at interstate entrances? No? Then you ARE paying for them. Through your purchasing of goods through advertisers if these so-called "economists" were writing in publications or pontificating on propaganda networks like CNN. Hmm, publications, like News Week, Time, The Wall Street Journal - gee last I checked you (or SOMEONE) had to **PAY** to acquire a copy. Clif, unlike your "economists", does not PARTICIPATE in that financial pool ... and unlike your "economists" what he says and what he writes is not CONTROLLED and EDITED like the banal tripe you obviously like to consume.
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Clif has been talking about a 2012 "Data Gap" since I first encountered his material around 2007. The bottom line is, we've HAD all the crisis he's discussed. What he was not able to pull from the data was HOW hyper-inflation would unfold.

WE HAVE HYPER-INFLATION. PERIOD.

It's just that it has been largely *contained* in the cloud of DERIVATIVES. The whole derivative SCAM is so unprecedented, that it is difficult to contemplate how "ordinary" humans could accurately forecast it. The FED and the world's central banks are "creating" (since "printing" is not what they actually do anymore) TRILLIONS of "dollars", "euros" - you name it. We haven't experienced Weimar Germany effects because the fact is, most of the economy is now CONTROLLED and CENTRALLY PLANNED. At the very tippy top of vast multi-national corporations, mere "money" is no longer a factor in dictating the supply or demand of any significant commodity. It's a factor for the corner independantly owned convenience store, but not for "7-11" (or more specifically - Southland Corporation [or more likely LLC]). But even the corner convenience store gets most if not all of its goods from huge multi-national distributors - whose inventory is not determined by "money", but by COORDINATION on a scale so vast, it is unprecedented in recent human history.

It's also why we're SCREWED - because if that system ever truly BREAKS for ANY reason whatsoever (war, solar flares, data disaster [IT problems are a REAL hazard]) we're gonna be out of EVERYTHING, ... OVERNIGHT.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what Clif sees taking shape beginning March 2nd.

Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it. Nor did they rely on some "web-bots" to come up with the information...although I suspect that Clif didn't either. More than likely he's simply regurgitating information out there and simply putting his own spin on it before selling it as his own to gullible individuals like you.
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>> Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it.

What a simpleton you are. Are these "economists" earning their daily bread squeegeeing car windows at interstate entrances? No? Then you ARE paying for them. Through your purchasing of goods through advertisers if these so-called "economists" were writing in publications or pontificating on propaganda networks like CNN. Hmm, publications, like News Week, Time, The Wall Street Journal - gee last I checked you (or SOMEONE) had to **PAY** to acquire a copy. Clif, unlike your "economists", does not PARTICIPATE in that financial pool ... and unlike your "economists" what he says and what he writes is not CONTROLLED and EDITED like the banal tripe you obviously like to consume.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Thats the result, CB, if you try to argue with a brainless oink.
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Clif has been talking about a 2012 "Data Gap" since I first encountered his material around 2007. The bottom line is, we've HAD all the crisis he's discussed. What he was not able to pull from the data was HOW hyper-inflation would unfold.

WE HAVE HYPER-INFLATION. PERIOD.

It's just that it has been largely *contained* in the cloud of DERIVATIVES. The whole derivative SCAM is so unprecedented, that it is difficult to contemplate how "ordinary" humans could accurately forecast it. The FED and the world's central banks are "creating" (since "printing" is not what they actually do anymore) TRILLIONS of "dollars", "euros" - you name it. We haven't experienced Weimar Germany effects because the fact is, most of the economy is now CONTROLLED and CENTRALLY PLANNED. At the very tippy top of vast multi-national corporations, mere "money" is no longer a factor in dictating the supply or demand of any significant commodity. It's a factor for the corner independantly owned convenience store, but not for "7-11" (or more specifically - Southland Corporation [or more likely LLC]). But even the corner convenience store gets most if not all of its goods from huge multi-national distributors - whose inventory is not determined by "money", but by COORDINATION on a scale so vast, it is unprecedented in recent human history.

It's also why we're SCREWED - because if that system ever truly BREAKS for ANY reason whatsoever (war, solar flares, data disaster [IT problems are a REAL hazard]) we're gonna be out of EVERYTHING, ... OVERNIGHT.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what Clif sees taking shape beginning March 2nd.

Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it. Nor did they rely on some "web-bots" to come up with the information...although I suspect that Clif didn't either. More than likely he's simply regurgitating information out there and simply putting his own spin on it before selling it as his own to gullible individuals like you.
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>> Some economists have been talking about it, too. And guess what? I didn't have to pay them to read about it.

What a simpleton you are. Are these "economists" earning their daily bread squeegeeing car windows at interstate entrances? No? Then you ARE paying for them. Through your purchasing of goods through advertisers if these so-called "economists" were writing in publications or pontificating on propaganda networks like CNN. Hmm, publications, like News Week, Time, The Wall Street Journal - gee last I checked you (or SOMEONE) had to **PAY** to acquire a copy. Clif, unlike your "economists", does not PARTICIPATE in that financial pool ... and unlike your "economists" what he says and what he writes is not CONTROLLED and EDITED like the banal tripe you obviously like to consume.
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Thats the result, CB, if you try to argue with a brainless oink.
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many psychics - many I read over a DECADE ago, talked about not seeing ANYTHING in the year 2012. Same with remote viewers.

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"Many?" Name two or three such psychic predictions from over a decade ago.
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Let's hope he's "wrong again". For all our sakes.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Let's hope you wise the fuck up "soon".....and refrain yourself from repeating Clify's crappedee crap on our thread. For all our sakes.
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The latest TWO HOUR interview with Clif is **NOW** available!!!

[link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

I'm starting to listen now. I will provide updates as I learn the details ...


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