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Excellent points.
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It's one thing to be prepared for disaster and another to dedicate your life to being prepared. We are all going to die someday, and at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how we get dead. When your time is up there is no cheating death, so I prefer to live like there's no tomorrow every single day, squeeze the most I can out of the short life I have here. If there is anything on the other side, I will know once I get there and I am not going to worry myself about it until that time comes. Life is way to short to live it in fear of death.

I have known lots of survivalist types over my lifetime, and most of them ARE a bit kooky. I had a friend that became a survivalist in the mountains back in the 70's. He was sure that we had very little time to prepare, he did a pretty good job of it too, but nothing ever happened. He was a really smart guy and he could have contributed good things to society if he hadn't isolated himself preparing for disaster. Then, a few years ago he was diagnosed with liver cancer. The last time I saw him, just shortly before he died, he regretted spending his life isolate from the world, he never had a wife and the only companion he left behind was a dog. Such a waste, and it was so sad to see him make the realization when death was tapping him on the shoulder, not years earlier when he could have enjoyed his life a little.
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Wow, good story, bro.

As they say, "All things in moderation."
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So IDW/A.A. said he'd bet anything I could afford to lose that I wouldn't be able to post to GLP in a month, and when I try to take him up on it he runs away.

He isn't quite up to the Apollo arguments of times past. Pity to see such a colorful personality fading. He's still more fun than Nancy ever was, though.
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I didn't say all whack-jobs are survivalists. But a good number of survivalists are whack jobs...believing in doomsday scenarios that will never happen.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If one spends one's entire life preparing for some imaginary doom, one has a vested interest in that doom happening! This is the dangerous mental trap into which many of these people fall.

That's why those who promote 'doom scenarios' (like Nancy, Clif, etc. and hosts of others) are so irresponsible. They prey on weak minds but care not about the consequences.
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I didn't say all whack-jobs are survivalists. But a good number of survivalists are whack jobs...believing in doomsday scenarios that will never happen.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If one spends one's entire life preparing for some imaginary doom, one has a vested interest in that doom happening! This is the dangerous mental trap into which many of these people fall.

That's why those who promote 'doom scenarios' (like Nancy, Clif, etc. and hosts of others) are so irresponsible. They prey on weak minds but care not about the consequences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15380699


Oh wow. That's some serious insight there. Kudos!
"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes
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Avinu shebashamayim, yitkadesh shimkha. Tavo malkhutekha ye'aseh r'tzonekha ba'aretz ka'asher na'asah vashamayimTen-lanu haiyom lechem chukeinu. u'selach-lanu et-ashmateinu ka'asher solechim anachnu la'asher ashmu lanu. Ve'al-tevieinu lidei massah, ki im-hatsileinu min-hara. Ki lekha ha-mamlakha vehagevurah veha-tiferet l'olemei olamim. Amen.
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So IDW/A.A. said he'd bet anything I could afford to lose that I wouldn't be able to post to GLP in a month, and when I try to take him up on it he runs away.

He isn't quite up to the Apollo arguments of times past. Pity to see such a colorful personality fading. He's still more fun than Nancy ever was, though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Isn't that the truth. Nancy was sort of fun to laugh at with her many illogical rantings; complete with endless FAILED doomsday dates and colourful gullible followers in tow. After a while though Ms LIEDer's nonsense becomes a rather dull and recycled exercise to read/comment about. Even motor mouth, Zeta Max, is seemingly firing blanks these days. lol4me Looks like even Zeta Max has run out of doomsday spunk!!

PS: My favourite
Nancy episode, from GLP past, still has to be the entire elle saga. Elle was certainly an intriguing "glp" creation of Ms LIEDer's.
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I'm gathering corroborating material for an alien invasion in December......
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


lol4me Oh goodie....them wittle alien dudes will be able to make it to good old planet Earth just in time to go Christmas shopping(before the end of the world on the 21/12/12 of course).....idiot!!
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Just because this guy was a wack-job, doens't mean all wack-job's are survivalists!!!
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Wasn't Andrew of the Ukraine a "survivalist"? I'm pretty sure that he was going to up and relocate to some remote village to "survive" the coming geographical poleshift. Well that was the case up until his girlfriend decided not to follow him on his wack-job "survivalist" plan to the middle of freaken nowhere.

lol4me Mind you, Andy Boy, was very well trained in the art of the wack-job....if I recall correctly he was wack jobbing himself off morning, noon, and night!!
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So IDW/A.A. said he'd bet anything I could afford to lose that I wouldn't be able to post to GLP in a month, and when I try to take him up on it he runs away.

He isn't quite up to the Apollo arguments of times past. Pity to see such a colorful personality fading. He's still more fun than Nancy ever was, though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Isn't that the truth. Nancy was sort of fun to laugh at with her many illogical rantings; complete with endless FAILED doomsday dates and colourful gullible followers in tow. After a while though Ms LIEDer's nonsense becomes a rather dull and recycled exercise to read/comment about. Even motor mouth, Zeta Max, is seemingly firing blanks these days. :lol4me: Looks like even Zeta Max has run out of doomsday spunk!!

PS: My favourite
Nancy episode, from GLP past, still has to be the entire elle saga. Elle was certainly an intriguing "glp" creation of Ms LIEDer's.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I forgot all about Elle, who never returned from camping...

Like Zetas meet Deliverance... the script Nancy wanted you to see...
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So IDW/A.A. said he'd bet anything I could afford to lose that I wouldn't be able to post to GLP in a month, and when I try to take him up on it he runs away.

He isn't quite up to the Apollo arguments of times past. Pity to see such a colorful personality fading. He's still more fun than Nancy ever was, though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Isn't that the truth. Nancy was sort of fun to laugh at with her many illogical rantings; complete with endless FAILED doomsday dates and colourful gullible followers in tow. After a while though Ms LIEDer's nonsense becomes a rather dull and recycled exercise to read/comment about. Even motor mouth, Zeta Max, is seemingly firing blanks these days. lol4me Looks like even Zeta Max has run out of doomsday spunk!!

PS: My favourite
Nancy episode, from GLP past, still has to be the entire elle saga. Elle was certainly an intriguing "glp" creation of Ms LIEDer's.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


>> Even motor mouth, Zeta Max, is seemingly firing blanks these days. lol4me Looks like even Zeta Max has run out of doomsday spunk!!


I guess you didn't listen to the latest from Major Ed Dames ... have you???



He predicted Fukishima!!!!

He thinks there is a VERY good chance that there will be no election this fall in the US.

He thinks martial law will be declared in the US before year's end.

He thinks the KILL SHOT has a very good chance of manifesting THIS YEAR.

He also said that there are only a handful of safe havens in the Southern Hemisphere. He said there were two tiny ones in New Zealand.

So LTR, If I were you, I'd stop laughing at prognosticators and get busy trying to find those safe havens ... or ... you're gonna be one fried kiwi!!!

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I didn't say all whack-jobs are survivalists. But a good number of survivalists are whack jobs...believing in doomsday scenarios that will never happen.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If one spends one's entire life preparing for some imaginary doom, one has a vested interest in that doom happening! This is the dangerous mental trap into which many of these people fall.

That's why those who promote 'doom scenarios' (like Nancy, Clif, etc. and hosts of others) are so irresponsible. They prey on weak minds but care not about the consequences.
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I have always thought there was something non-frivolous behind Nancy's actions. I consider to be possessed by whatever "Zetas" is.
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I guess you didn't listen to the latest from Major Ed Dames ... have you???



He predicted Fukishima!!!!

He thinks there is a VERY good chance that there will be no election this fall in the US.

He thinks martial law will be declared in the US before year's end.

He thinks the KILL SHOT has a very good chance of manifesting THIS YEAR.

He also said that there are only a handful of safe havens in the Southern Hemisphere. He said there were two tiny ones in New Zealand.

So LTR, If I were you, I'd stop laughing at prognosticators and get busy trying to find those safe havens ... or ... you're gonna be one fried kiwi!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


whatever
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I wish to make a prediction.

*mutters in tongues*

On some future date, <bad stuff>. <more bad stuff>. You will know when this is coming because <stuff not as bad, but still bad>.

I can not predict a date, all I can say is SOOOOOOON!

Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 05/02/2012 10:09 PM
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If you think they are nutters on the poleshift ning, go over to Cheryl's competing ning and read through the latest couple of posts.
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I don't visit either Ning, so paraphrasing would be nice.

And I see ZM's blanks just keep right on coming.
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I don't visit either Ning, so paraphrasing would be nice.

And I see ZM's blanks just keep right on coming.
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>> And I see ZM's blanks just keep right on coming.

Aren't you being a little
soonx
with that comment???
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Aren't you being a little
soonx
with that comment???
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Based on your history of being wrong, it's not difficult to project future trends.
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If you think they are nutters on the poleshift ning, go over to Cheryl's competing ning and read through the latest couple of posts.
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Watch poleshift live :

the "mysterious" Nobody evryone is talking about is Dr. Mensur Omerbashich but I don't think he'll admit it :

[link to sites.google.com]


The whole Nobody thing is about his discovery which kills Einstein and Newton theories and reveals

the final truth about the Universe:
[link to seismo.info]

Hes also descendant of JC.

Read about him and his discoveries, and then go watch the Da Vinci Code with Tom Hanks. TPTB made this film about Dr.O, watch closely the film's ending, the JC descendant using planetary alignments to kill Newton theory...

I connected the dots myself ohyeah

btw the Church is trying to steal his discovery as we speak.
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Heh... Ed Dames "predicted" a quake in Japan which would "crack" a double-containment. Funny how it didn't happen that way and he made no mention at all of the real cause of the reactor breech- WATER, in the form of a tsumami.
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Heh... Ed Dames "predicted" a quake in Japan which would "crack" a double-containment. Funny how it didn't happen that way and he made no mention at all of the real cause of the reactor breech- WATER, in the form of a tsumami.
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So, you're saying "no cigar?"

I'm shocked.

alone
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If you think they are nutters on the poleshift ning, go over to Cheryl's competing ning and read through the latest couple of posts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7468171


Watch poleshift live :

the "mysterious" Nobody evryone is talking about is Dr. Mensur Omerbashich but I don't think he'll admit it :

[link to sites.google.com]


The whole Nobody thing is about his discovery which kills Einstein and Newton theories and reveals

the final truth about the Universe:
[link to seismo.info]

Hes also descendant of JC.

Read about him and his discoveries, and then go watch the Da Vinci Code with Tom Hanks. TPTB made this film about Dr.O, watch closely the film's ending, the JC descendant using planetary alignments to kill Newton theory...

I connected the dots myself ohyeah

btw the Church is trying to steal his discovery as we speak.
 Quoting: Revelation 14657277


So, an IDW WANNABE.

Amazing.
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I guess you didn't listen to the latest from Major Ed Dames ... have you???

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What about Dames? I guess he finally quit looking for that gold, eh?

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If you think they are nutters on the poleshift ning, go over to Cheryl's competing ning and read through the latest couple of posts.
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Watch poleshift live :

the "mysterious" Nobody evryone is talking about is Dr. Mensur Omerbashich but I don't think he'll admit it :

[link to sites.google.com]


The whole Nobody thing is about his discovery which kills Einstein and Newton theories and reveals

the final truth about the Universe:
[link to seismo.info]

Hes also descendant of JC.

Read about him and his discoveries, and then go watch the Da Vinci Code with Tom Hanks. TPTB made this film about Dr.O, watch closely the film's ending, the JC descendant using planetary alignments to kill Newton theory...

I connected the dots myself ohyeah

btw the Church is trying to steal his discovery as we speak.
 Quoting: Revelation 14657277


Funny stuff here about Omerbashich and GLP:

[link to rationalwiki.org]
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When you take a closer look on the history of doomsday scenarios you will easily see that they all have one thing in common: they always failed.

Both Nancy Lieder and Cheryl are following obsolete hoax scenarios which are lost in cyberspace. Nancy Lieder`s actual page is a lense flare collection. The so called Zetas seem to be as brain-dead as Lieder`s followers, because every little child with some basic knowledge can clearly identify these hoaxes. And you really don`t need some old floppy discs to discover new planets or whatever. These people seem to live in the middle age. Why does nobody tell them that there are real good telescopes out there? Every amateur astronomer of the world could not miss such big new planets (since decades).

Especially Lieder`s lame 7 of 10 scenario which should only last two weeks,- is on the best way to get an evergreen of hoaxes, following Lieder`s long history of bad jokes and penible errors.

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When you take a closer look on the history of doomsday scenarios you will easily see that they all have one thing in common: they always failed.

Both Nancy Lieder and Cheryl are following obsolete hoax scenarios which are lost in cyberspace. Nancy Lieder`s actual page is a lense flare collection. The so called Zetas seem to be as brain-dead as Lieder`s followers, because every little child with some basic knowledge can clearly identify these hoaxes. And you really don`t need some old floppy discs to discover new planets or whatever. These people seem to live in the middle age. Why does nobody tell them that there are real good telescopes out there? Every amateur astronomer of the world could not miss such big new planets (since decades).

Especially Lieder`s lame 7 of 10 scenario which should only last two weeks,- is on the best way to get an evergreen of hoaxes, following Lieder`s long history of bad jokes and penible errors.

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Is there some kind of point you're trying to make??
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Nancy Lieder claimed that our country has sunk.... that`s another big lie of that pathetic woman...I have been living here in Jakarta now since 1998 and nothing has changed...not even a small change....life is like it always was...the worst thing here in my home area in Jakarta are some annoying mosquitoes....this crazy old woman is really talking a lot of nonsene...I guess the USA will sink first ...banana2
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Is there some kind of point you're trying to make??
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His point is quite clear...you just don't get it because you belong to the "easily fooled" crowd. Clif has failed NUMEROUS times and yet you still send him money to receive his newsletters foretelling of imminent doom that ends up not happening. Quite a waste of money in my opinion.
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As Circuit Breaker already mentioned, Zeta-Max, my point is quite clear, but you have to try to understand it. You have to leave the strange highway of cults and sects, because they have no end and no beginning. They are just useless. It is quite funny, that a guy from Indonesia is telling his story here showing that Nancy Lieder is a lame prank woman.

How many of these stupid predictions do have to fail until guys like you get it. Perhaps that was the real intention of the Mayas`and their calendar. It needs 2012 hoaxes until some people really wake up? And who to hell is Clif? Is that another strange guru or sect leader? Or are you Clif?

I hope that Clif is not Marshall Masters or Harold Camping. Nethertheless this idea is quite funny. Hopefully nobody sends this freaks money anymore.
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Absolute proof of "Planet X":

[link to www.baynews9.com]

Never mind that sink holes are quite common in FL (we were advised to carry sinkhole insurance when we lived there), Nancy and her merry band of sheeple would most certainly try to claim that "Planet X' caused this.
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Absolute proof of "Planet X":

[link to www.baynews9.com]

Never mind that sink holes are quite common in FL (we were advised to carry sinkhole insurance when we lived there), Nancy and her merry band of sheeple would most certainly try to claim that "Planet X' caused this.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yep, that's in my home insurance policy - a sinkhole rider.

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