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I found this discussion here and I want to add my oppinion. At the end of 2010 a friend of mine came and told me that we would sink and be lost longe before 2012. And there was a small earthquake at that day so I believed him. It was probably my mistake as we often had small earthquakes here.

I trusted him so I had to sell my little house and my home to go to a safe place. He had relatives in singapore and after selling everything here we had enough to go there. Soon after we arrived there I heard in the news that nothing happened. Later I tried again, and again nothing happened. So we got scammed by that lousy Nancy Lieder and her crazy Zetatalk. It was hard for me to convince my friend, cause he was so deep in that cult that he could not think anymore. But after even in late 2011 everybody told us that life in jakarta is quite normal and average ( we had no more money for singapore) we decided to go back.

And nothing changed there. Nothing. We onyl found out that this crazy Nancy Lieder is a well known liar and cult guru.
She even claimed that we were sunk as nothing really happened.

Now Im back (since five days) but my home is gone I sold it for a cheap price and me and my friend we try to get new jobs
I have to work in two jobs now and hardly find time to sleep...only around 5 hours a day.

But i dont earn enough money to buy my things back. I think I have to be uncomplainant. The only thin I know is that this Nancy Lieder is a pathetice and crazy liar. Here everything is like in 2010, nothing changed. How can such crazy people act like this, to destroy poor and weak people like us, to feed their troll campaings.

For me it is enough but I know of some others (other friends of my friend) who didnt make it back and who probably live on the streets now.

May Allah forgive this pathetic liar Nancy Lieder. But I think she will get hers, after hopefully soon passing by.
This crazy Zetatalk is a highway of lies...bsflag
 Quoting: Putu 5605075


It's too bad you're a fool. Fools make "all or nothing" plans - and then complain when they end up with "nothing". Heck - IT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS. I have NEVER been an advocate of "all or nothing" plans - but rather CONTINGENCY plans. You have to be prepared for a pole shift to happen, and also NOT happen. The problem with the debunkers, is that they advocate another form of "all or nothing" plan - called complete investment in the "status quo". They suffer and celebrate "normalcy bias". If the norm ever fails, they too will end up with NOTHING. (Unless of course they happen to be PAID debunkers, in which case they plan to be LAUGHING at the suffering of the unprepared from their hidey holes built with the trillions stolen from the common man. Of course that is the essence of pure evil, but hey - it's the "winning" team ... right?)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ignoring your poisoning the well altogether:

Tell me, ZM, specifically how have you prepared for a possible pole shift? How is that preparation qualitatively different from preparing for other possible natural disasters in your area? Do you have your ditch dug, as Nancy advises? How about that hole in your wee-wee, as in her supposed survival guide? What preparations have you made that aren't included in typical survival guides?

Please link to a single debunker post here promoting no contingency planning, as you imply above.

What? You can't? I'm shocked.

Debunkers, understanding that people don't have an infinite amount of resources to prepare *with,* tend to advocate preparing for disasters that *can actually occur.*
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I found this discussion here and I want to add my oppinion. At the end of 2010 a friend of mine came and told me that we would sink and be lost longe before 2012. And there was a small earthquake at that day so I believed him. It was probably my mistake as we often had small earthquakes here.

I trusted him so I had to sell my little house and my home to go to a safe place. He had relatives in singapore and after selling everything here we had enough to go there. Soon after we arrived there I heard in the news that nothing happened. Later I tried again, and again nothing happened. So we got scammed by that lousy Nancy Lieder and her crazy Zetatalk. It was hard for me to convince my friend, cause he was so deep in that cult that he could not think anymore. But after even in late 2011 everybody told us that life in jakarta is quite normal and average ( we had no more money for singapore) we decided to go back.

And nothing changed there. Nothing. We onyl found out that this crazy Nancy Lieder is a well known liar and cult guru.
She even claimed that we were sunk as nothing really happened.

Now Im back (since five days) but my home is gone I sold it for a cheap price and me and my friend we try to get new jobs
I have to work in two jobs now and hardly find time to sleep...only around 5 hours a day.

But i dont earn enough money to buy my things back. I think I have to be uncomplainant. The only thin I know is that this Nancy Lieder is a pathetice and crazy liar. Here everything is like in 2010, nothing changed. How can such crazy people act like this, to destroy poor and weak people like us, to feed their troll campaings.

For me it is enough but I know of some others (other friends of my friend) who didnt make it back and who probably live on the streets now.

May Allah forgive this pathetic liar Nancy Lieder. But I think she will get hers, after hopefully soon passing by.
This crazy Zetatalk is a highway of lies...bsflag
 Quoting: Putu 5605075


It's too bad you're a fool. Fools make "all or nothing" plans - and then complain when they end up with "nothing". Heck - IT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS. I have NEVER been an advocate of "all or nothing" plans - but rather CONTINGENCY plans. You have to be prepared for a pole shift to happen, and also NOT happen. The problem with the debunkers, is that they advocate another form of "all or nothing" plan - called complete investment in the "status quo". They suffer and celebrate "normalcy bias". If the norm ever fails, they too will end up with NOTHING. (Unless of course they happen to be PAID debunkers, in which case they plan to be LAUGHING at the suffering of the unprepared from their hidey holes built with the trillions stolen from the common man. Of course that is the essence of pure evil, but hey - it's the "winning" team ... right?)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Ignoring your poisoning the well altogether:

Tell me, ZM, specifically how have you prepared for a possible pole shift? How is that preparation qualitatively different from preparing for other possible natural disasters in your area? Do you have your ditch dug, as Nancy advises? How about that hole in your wee-wee, as in her supposed survival guide? What preparations have you made that aren't included in typical survival guides?

Please link to a single debunker post here promoting no contingency planning, as you imply above.

What? You can't? I'm shocked.

Debunkers, understanding that people don't have an infinite amount of resources to prepare *with,* tend to advocate preparing for disasters that *can actually occur.*
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


>> Tell me, ZM, specifically how have you prepared for a possible pole shift?

Mentally mostly. There are simply no "survival preparations" that will guarantee your survival, and that are not subject to loss under various scenarios. Food stores can be stolen, lost in a fire, or impossible to transport if one has to abandon thier "bunker" in a hurry. That said, some food stores are wise, and if one has the means, then storing food in quantity is a good noble gesture if one wishes to also assit their neighbor. But it's too dicey a prospect to liquidate all your assets and spend every dime on food - or any other prep. But if one takes the time to learn about wild edibles, that can put you in better stead than a whole warehouse full of food.

I've actually read MOST of ZetaTalk (up to about 2009 or so anyway) - and nowhere does Nancy advocate an all-or-nothing approach. She in fact states that one should move ONLY if they have the means, and that such moves should take into account things like JOBS and MONEY and commitments to FAMILY. When folks like the "Indonesian" poster (and I have doubt this a "true" story) go beyond that advice, they are making in a very REAL sense, an UNADVISED decision - one Nancy and the Zetas have actually DISCOURAGED. Such people are acting entirely out of emotion, and not using their brains AT ALL.

I work in CHICAGO. But live 80 miles from the city center in rural country. It's not an ideal situation, but I'm better off than millions.

I've only given myself a "leg up" - and not much more. I'm VERY realistic about my survival chances ... NOT GOOD. For starters, I am a severe life-long asthmatic (probably from vaccine damage when I was an infant) and almost certainly will not survive without medication. At this point, I'm only hoping to hang on long enough to get my daughters to some form of safety where they have a "shot" at some kind of future. A 50 year old severe asthmatic with worsening arthritus and low stamina is not going to be much good for much else beyond that.

I've accepted my limitations, which are MANY and way to numerous to post here.

As for the ditch, Nancy and the Zetas specifically talk about digging it at the LAST MINUTE - literally as the PX complex is writhing in the sky in all it's glory and for all to see. Has that occurred yet?

NO

So anyone who has already "dug their ditch", is acting OUT OF PURE EMOTION, and is NOT following the advice given.

Nuff said.

Oh - I do own a shovel, one like this:

[link to www.truevalue.com]

But - if one is serious about digging a ditch in a HURRY - you need one of these:

[link to www.truevalue.com]

But I guess 14 bucks is too much - huh?

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It's too bad you're a fool. Fools make "all or nothing" plans - and then complain when they end up with "nothing". Heck - IT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS. I have NEVER been an advocate of "all or nothing" plans - but rather CONTINGENCY plans. You have to be prepared for a pole shift to happen, and also NOT happen. The problem with the debunkers, is that they advocate another form of "all or nothing" plan - called complete investment in the "status quo". They suffer and celebrate "normalcy bias". If the norm ever fails, they too will end up with NOTHING. (Unless of course they happen to be PAID debunkers, in which case they plan to be LAUGHING at the suffering of the unprepared from their hidey holes built with the trillions stolen from the common man. Of course that is the essence of pure evil, but hey - it's the "winning" team ... right?)
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Wow...the others were right. You're just one big liar. We've advocated no such thing. We've simply pointed out that no one can predict when disaster will strike. In the case of Nancy, we've proven her predicted apocalypse is simply impossible and that the cause behind her dire predictions (Planet X) simply doesn't exist.

IF something were to happen, it seems likely that you'd be living it up well off the money you've made shilling for Clif and Nancy so I don't think you have any room to accuse "debunkers" of making money off anyone.
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Speaking of making money...

[link to phamefactory.com]

Yep, a Zetatalk App. Only $8.99 for the Ipad one.

Yegads.
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Speaking of making money...

[link to phamefactory.com]

Yep, a Zetatalk App. Only $8.99 for the Ipad one.

Yegads.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Why not? laugh

Pay for something that is already online free.

I would love to see the sales numbers on that product
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There aren't any reviews of the product.

We can probably count on Max providing a review - he's certainly foolish enough to spend the money on it.
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There aren't any reviews of the product.

We can probably count on Max providing a review - he's certainly foolish enough to spend the money on it.
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I don't own any Apple products. My phone is a Droid 2.
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Oh - I do own a shovel, one like this:

[link to www.truevalue.com]

But - if one is serious about digging a ditch in a HURRY - you need one of these:

[link to www.truevalue.com]

But I guess 14 bucks is too much - huh?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You broke cardinal rule number 1 when it comes to tools - you bought CHEAP. You might have saved a few bucks now but that shovel will fail you in time and you'll have to buy another.

I always buy mid-range tools - they last a hell of a lot longer than the cheap ones and you don't end up buying the same tool on a regular basis. It's called false economy to cheap out on tools.

I do the same thing with everything I buy - I go mid-range because I know I won't have to be replacing something in a couple years because I bought cheap.
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Get a fuckin backhoe

friggen shovel pffffft
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I don't own any Apple products. My phone is a Droid 2.
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Then no doubt you'll buy it when they have a version for Droid.
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Get a fuckin backhoe

friggen shovel pffffft
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16720242


Got one! (As a backup, in case my $14 spade breaks)
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My wife's computer is getting slower and SLOWER. It too could be an effect of the approach or wobble.

There's always a "chance".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I know you're a cheapskate so why don't you just install malwarebytes and lavasoft registry tuner on the thing and run scans.

My system is roughly two years old...and it runs just as fast as it did when I built it.

The only thing that slows it down is when I'm working with CATIA or Autocad (the dual monitor graphics card I have is barely up to the task).
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Heck, mine is a 7 year old Intel X6600 2.79 GHz quad core PC with 3 GB of RAM and it runs fine for what I do right now. I want to get into virtualization so I'd like to get a better box...something with at least 12 GB of RAM and a hefty GPU so I can play some games.
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Heck, mine is a 7 year old Intel X6600 2.79 GHz quad core PC with 3 GB of RAM and it runs fine for what I do right now. I want to get into virtualization so I'd like to get a better box...something with at least 12 GB of RAM and a hefty GPU so I can play some games.
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>> so I can play some games

Is that what you plan to be doing when all hell breaks loose?
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One doesn't need to train to be a debunker....one just needs intelligence!
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Something he apparently lacks.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


This serial abuse is NOT acceptable!!! I am an educated person, a trained attorney, a 9-11 survivor and a successful software professional. I DEMAND more respect than I have been getting around here!!!!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**



"a 9-11 survivor" - proven lie...
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I guess you have no "Alien War" contingency plans - do you?
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I guess you have no "Alien War" contingency plans - do you?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Why don't you have Ninja Radioactive Hamsters from a Planet Near Mars contingency plans?
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Wait

The Zeta talk app is an alien war contingency plan?
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 Quoting: walt


I guess you have no "Alien War" contingency plans - do you?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Why don't you have Ninja Radioactive Hamsters from a Planet Near Mars contingency plans?
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How about radioactive tuna from the Pacific?

CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!

He says the collapse of the fishing industry will lead to the greater economic and systemic collapse.

omg

Thread: BREAKING *** Radioactive Bluefin Tuna caught in Cali

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Is that what you plan to be doing when all hell breaks loose?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


No. But has all hell broken loose? No. So why should I sit around worrying about it like you do?
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I guess you have no "Alien War" contingency plans - do you?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Why should we? Nothing Clif has ever predicted has come true.

TLR - ban this troll.
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How about radioactive tuna from the Pacific?

CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!

He says the collapse of the fishing industry will lead to the greater economic and systemic collapse.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


He was right? About what?

The only thing that's going to collapse the fishing industry is over-fishing.
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TLR - it's time for the ban hammer to fall.


True indeed, CB.

It will happen eventually. I've just been too focused on "real world" committments, over the months, to "worry" too much about a fool like the Melfster. Let's just say that as we progress through 2012 that "banning action" will be taken against him and probably when he least expects it.

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 Quoting: walt


I guess you have no "Alien War" contingency plans - do you?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Why don't you have Ninja Radioactive Hamsters from a Planet Near Mars contingency plans?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015670


How about radioactive tuna from the Pacific?

CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!

He says the collapse of the fishing industry will lead to the greater economic and systemic collapse.

:omg:

Thread: BREAKING *** Radioactive Bluefin Tuna caught in Cali
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


101 has a good question you avoid.

What eventuality is too "far out" to prepare for, in your philosophy?
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How about radioactive tuna from the Pacific?

CLIF RIGHT AGAIN!!!

He says the collapse of the fishing industry will lead to the greater economic and systemic collapse.

omg

Thread: BREAKING *** Radioactive Bluefin Tuna caught in Cali
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


boringboringboringboring
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TLR - it's time for the ban hammer to fall.
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True indeed, CB.

It will happen eventually. I've just been too focused on "real world" committments, over the months, to "worry" too much about a fool like the Melfster. Let's just say that as we progress through 2012 that "banning action" will be taken against him and probably when he least expects it.

:Mexcited:


Seriously, the longer melfy persists in lying, shilling and trolling the more he thinks he can get away with it. BAN MELFY !!!!!!!!
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Ban the melf.
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Get a fuckin backhoe

friggen shovel pffffft
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16720242


y_smile I do believe that the Melfster does prefer to use a shovel....I mean the retard is forever shoveling bullshit here on our debunkers thread that he is probably not about to change (in)to any other kind of tool, anytime soon.

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I'll have to make note of these dire predictions so I can bring them up one at a time as they fail.
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