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They are all completely clueless that the apparent angle of the transit will be different from different latitudes. Hilarious!

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"Comment by astrogal50 8 minutes ago
Clearly the path of this transit was not normal or as expected. It was not as NASA and others predicted.
At this moment on June 6, 2012, the only site noting this obvious discrepancy is the Pole Shift Ning.
Although there is proof that the transit occurred but not as expected, don't expect to see a word about this from any mainstream site. It will be covered up, say nothing. There will be no explanation apart from ZetaTalk and those who get their news from the Pole Shift Ning. Pole Shift Ning members right again!"
 Quoting: Menow 17488405


Of course, they failed to read a significant paragraph on the transit page:

"Note that these times are for an observer at Earth's center. The actual contact times for any given observer may differ by up to ±7 minutes. This is due to effects of parallax since Venus's 58 arc-second diameter disk may be shifted up to 30 arc-seconds from its geocentric coordinates depending on the observer's exact position on Earth. Table 2 and Table 3 list predicted contact times and corresponding altitudes of the Sun for locations throughout Canada and the United States, respectively. Table 4 provides similar predictions for a number of cities around the world. "

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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They are all completely clueless that the apparent angle of the transit will be different from different latitudes. Hilarious!

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"Comment by astrogal50 8 minutes ago
Clearly the path of this transit was not normal or as expected. It was not as NASA and others predicted.
At this moment on June 6, 2012, the only site noting this obvious discrepancy is the Pole Shift Ning.
Although there is proof that the transit occurred but not as expected, don't expect to see a word about this from any mainstream site. It will be covered up, say nothing. There will be no explanation apart from ZetaTalk and those who get their news from the Pole Shift Ning. Pole Shift Ning members right again!"
 Quoting: Menow 17488405


Yes, Astronut50 has shown she's as brain dead as Nancy. It obviously never occurred to her that the ONLY reason people on the Pole Shift Ning noting any "discrepancy" is because there was no discrepancy. The mainstream media isn't talking about because there's nothing to talk about. Pole Shift Ning WRONG as usual!
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Of course, they failed to read a significant paragraph on the transit page:

"Note that these times are for an observer at Earth's center. The actual contact times for any given observer may differ by up to ±7 minutes. This is due to effects of parallax since Venus's 58 arc-second diameter disk may be shifted up to 30 arc-seconds from its geocentric coordinates depending on the observer's exact position on Earth. Table 2 and Table 3 list predicted contact times and corresponding altitudes of the Sun for locations throughout Canada and the United States, respectively. Table 4 provides similar predictions for a number of cities around the world. "

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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No, they read it - they simply didn't understand it. They probably all got "deer in the headlights" looks on their faces. If you could hear their brain while they read that paragraph, it would probably sound like a telephone busy signal....or the tones/message you get when you dial a number no longer in service.
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So far, it's looking like Clif WRONG again!

[link to marketday.msnbc.msn.com]

Not really very surprising.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 06/06/2012 08:13 PM
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Nice time lapse video of the transit...completely proving that Nancy and her merry band of retards are wrong YET AGAIN!

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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They are all completely clueless that the apparent angle of the transit will be different from different latitudes. Hilarious!

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"Comment by astrogal50 8 minutes ago
Clearly the path of this transit was not normal or as expected. It was not as NASA and others predicted.
At this moment on June 6, 2012, the only site noting this obvious discrepancy is the Pole Shift Ning.
Although there is proof that the transit occurred but not as expected, don't expect to see a word about this from any mainstream site. It will be covered up, say nothing. There will be no explanation apart from ZetaTalk and those who get their news from the Pole Shift Ning. Pole Shift Ning members right again!"
 Quoting: Menow 17488405


Of course, they failed to read a significant paragraph on the transit page:

"Note that these times are for an observer at Earth's center. The actual contact times for any given observer may differ by up to ±7 minutes. This is due to effects of parallax since Venus's 58 arc-second diameter disk may be shifted up to 30 arc-seconds from its geocentric coordinates depending on the observer's exact position on Earth. Table 2 and Table 3 list predicted contact times and corresponding altitudes of the Sun for locations throughout Canada and the United States, respectively. Table 4 provides similar predictions for a number of cities around the world. "

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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I don't think they are even questioning the times, afaik. They are just saying that it crossed the sun at the wrong angle, even though they have images right on the ning which show differing angles and one shot which shows the field rotation during the event. Someone posted that they "turned that image" or somesuch nonsense. They are unbelievably clueless.
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Nice time lapse video of the transit...completely proving that Nancy and her merry band of retards are wrong YET AGAIN!

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


That's excellent! I wonder why Nancy and her minions can't find that vid for themselves. I'm sure they would say it's "doctored" anyway. Sigh.
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Of course, they failed to read a significant paragraph on the transit page:

"Note that these times are for an observer at Earth's center. The actual contact times for any given observer may differ by up to ±7 minutes. This is due to effects of parallax since Venus's 58 arc-second diameter disk may be shifted up to 30 arc-seconds from its geocentric coordinates depending on the observer's exact position on Earth. Table 2 and Table 3 list predicted contact times and corresponding altitudes of the Sun for locations throughout Canada and the United States, respectively. Table 4 provides similar predictions for a number of cities around the world. "

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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I don't think they are even questioning the times, afaik. They are just saying that it crossed the sun at the wrong angle, even though they have images right on the ning which show differing angles and one shot which shows the field rotation during the event. Someone posted that they "turned that image" or somesuch nonsense. They are unbelievably clueless.
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


I'm going by the second bolded section of what I posted.
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Of course, they failed to read a significant paragraph on the transit page:

"Note that these times are for an observer at Earth's center. The actual contact times for any given observer may differ by up to ±7 minutes. This is due to effects of parallax since Venus's 58 arc-second diameter disk may be shifted up to 30 arc-seconds from its geocentric coordinates depending on the observer's exact position on Earth. Table 2 and Table 3 list predicted contact times and corresponding altitudes of the Sun for locations throughout Canada and the United States, respectively. Table 4 provides similar predictions for a number of cities around the world. "

[link to eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: bob_909


I don't think they are even questioning the times, afaik. They are just saying that it crossed the sun at the wrong angle, even though they have images right on the ning which show differing angles and one shot which shows the field rotation during the event. Someone posted that they "turned that image" or somesuch nonsense. They are unbelievably clueless.
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


I'm going by the second bolded section of what I posted.
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Sure, but the effects of ones latitude would have a much greater effect on the orientation of the apparent path of Venus across the solar disk(along with field rotation, of course) than would the parallax factor.
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That's excellent! I wonder why Nancy and her minions can't find that vid for themselves. I'm sure they would say it's "doctored" anyway. Sigh.
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


Of course! Because it came from NASA - where EVERYTHING supports their claims. If an image from NASA has some anomaly - it's proof of "Planet X." If an image from NASA shows nothing out of the ordinary - it's proof of a cover up and, therefore, is proof of "Planet X." Much like EVERYTHING from the USGS supports their claims...regardless of what it is.
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I'm going by the second bolded section of what I posted.
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In which case, they have no idea WTF it means. They need Nancy to tell them that. And her explanation is probably something like this - "The transit didn't happen as planned because I said it didn't."
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So far, it's looking like Clif WRONG again!

[link to marketday.msnbc.msn.com]

Not really very surprising.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


A dead-cat bounce proves he's wrong? laugh

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A dead-cat bounce proves he's wrong?
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Why not? You use shit like that all the time to prove he's right.

Besides, the only one considering it a "dead cat" is you. You'll say anything to avoid admitting your boss is a fraud.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 06/07/2012 07:47 AM
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A dead-cat bounce proves he's wrong?
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Why not? You use shit like that all the time to prove he's right.

Besides, the only one considering it a "dead cat" is you. You'll say anything to avoid admitting your boss is a fraud.
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>> You'll say anything to avoid admitting your boss is a fraud.

Indeed - because he's NOT!!
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So far, it's looking like Clif WRONG again!

[link to marketday.msnbc.msn.com]

Not really very surprising.
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A dead-cat bounce proves he's wrong? laugh

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A breaking What? your drinking that raw stuff again ! let it mellow, you have so few brain cells left you cannot afford to lose any more!
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A dead-cat bounce proves he's wrong?
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Why not? You use shit like that all the time to prove he's right.

Besides, the only one considering it a "dead cat" is you. You'll say anything to avoid admitting your boss is a fraud.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


>> You'll say anything to avoid admitting your boss is a fraud.

Indeed - because he's NOT!!
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You're previous boss was. You know, the one you're named after.
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.

"Comment by astrogal50 1 hour ago
The paid professional debunkers are busily attempting to debunk what only the Pole Shift Ning initially reported: The path of the 2012 Venus transit was incorrect and not as the Establishment and NASA predicted. That much is clear and undeniable."
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.

"Comment by astrogal50 1 hour ago
The paid professional debunkers are busily attempting to debunk what only the Pole Shift Ning initially reported: The path of the 2012 Venus transit was incorrect and not as the Establishment and NASA predicted. That much is clear and undeniable."
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Of course, no one can post anything there explaining how Nancy and "Zetas" are wrong.
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.
 Quoting: Menow 17524373

Someone at the Poleshit must have a clue.
Someone at Poleshit has realized that the graphic of the path is aligned S/E and the overlayed photos are aligned to the ecliptic - that you just have to turn the graphic ~ 10° to the right to reach an accord.

To suppress such scattered thoughts in advance someone photoshopped the sunspots into the graphic.



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[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Scroll down half the page - just above the red "SOZT".


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Last Edited by Hydra on 06/07/2012 02:16 PM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Now we just need the animated Max built from his avatar
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.
 Quoting: Menow 17524373

Someone at the Poleshit must have a clue.
Someone at Poleshit has realized that the graphic of the path is aligned S/E and the overlayed photos are aligned to the ecliptic - that you just have to turn the graphic ~ 10° to the right to reach an accord.

To suppress such scattered thoughts in advance someone photoshopped the sunspots into the graphic.



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Edit:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Scroll down half the page - just above the red "SOZT".


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 Quoting: Hydra


Yeah, there are images people have posted there which should cause reasonable people to see that Nancy is just bullshitting again. The one on the right, just above the "SOZT" shows the ecliptic, but it isn't horizontal or "east/west". How much more of a clue do they need? If you orient the ecliptic correctly, it will match those other pics just fine!
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June 7/8/9 - Economic and political scandal surfaces in USA.
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So ends the 7th. No economic and political scandal. What a big surprise. It will also be no surprise when it fails to surface tomorrow or Saturday.

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Indeed - because he's NOT!!
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Uh, yes...he is. He claims to be able to predict future events but hasn't gotten one of them right yet. Ergo, he's a fraud.

But of course you won't admit it...as the saying goes, "Never bite the hand that feeds you."
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.

"Comment by astrogal50 1 hour ago
The paid professional debunkers are busily attempting to debunk what only the Pole Shift Ning initially reported: The path of the 2012 Venus transit was incorrect and not as the Establishment and NASA predicted. That much is clear and undeniable."
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


I bet she's referring to Nancy's latest thread on GLP because I posted a link to a video that proves Nancy is wrong. Someone named "The truth" replied that the transit didn't happen as planned and was being covered up. I suspected it was her and said so in a reply.
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.

"Comment by astrogal50 1 hour ago
The paid professional debunkers are busily attempting to debunk what only the Pole Shift Ning initially reported: The path of the 2012 Venus transit was incorrect and not as the Establishment and NASA predicted. That much is clear and undeniable."
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


I bet she's referring to Nancy's latest thread on GLP because I posted a link to a video that proves Nancy is wrong. Someone named "The truth" replied that the transit didn't happen as planned and was being covered up. I suspected it was her and said so in a reply.
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Link?
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.

"Comment by astrogal50 1 hour ago
The paid professional debunkers are busily attempting to debunk what only the Pole Shift Ning initially reported: The path of the 2012 Venus transit was incorrect and not as the Establishment and NASA predicted. That much is clear and undeniable."
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


I bet she's referring to Nancy's latest thread on GLP because I posted a link to a video that proves Nancy is wrong. Someone named "The truth" replied that the transit didn't happen as planned and was being covered up. I suspected it was her and said so in a reply.
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Link?
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


Nevermind. got it.
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Astrogal hasn't a clue how clueless she is.

"Comment by astrogal50 1 hour ago
The paid professional debunkers are busily attempting to debunk what only the Pole Shift Ning initially reported: The path of the 2012 Venus transit was incorrect and not as the Establishment and NASA predicted. That much is clear and undeniable."
 Quoting: Menow 17524373


I bet she's referring to Nancy's latest thread on GLP because I posted a link to a video that proves Nancy is wrong. Someone named "The truth" replied that the transit didn't happen as planned and was being covered up. I suspected it was her and said so in a reply.
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"Stalking" again?

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"Stalking" again?

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 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Why, yes, yes you are.

BTW, you realize that smilie refers to you right? After all, you continue to participate in this thread shilling for Clif.

Doh!

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