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Ban melfy!!!!
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Won't be at this time next year - that is "good" or "Life" ...

The Farsight project is ignored ONLY by fools.

Clif's material is laughed at ONLY by fools.

 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


ZM -- you don't know that. You are buying into both Clif's and Farsight's material, *exactly* as you did with Zetatalk. It's the same shinola. What I cannot fathom is why you *keep* falling for similarly clad claims, having so little to factually support them. You might as well say that the local Carnival's Psychic is only ignored by fools.


I left the East Coast partly TO GET AWAY FROM THE COAST. If for no other reason than I felt in my gut that it was not a good place to be. I had an opportunity to go live in Seattle where my parents and sister were at the time (my parents are both deceased as of 2008). I CHOSE CHICAGO - NORTHERN ILLINOIS instead, where we have no family and I knew NO ONE, due to concerns about again being too close to the ocean, and too close to Mount Ranier. (We have since made lots of friends, and even have an "adopted" grandfather for our girls). We are quite comfortable here now, and I don't have the "uneasy" feeling that haunted me almost continuously when I lived out East.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


But here's the thing, and there's just no getting around it:

Your uneasy feeling was wrong.

There's no other way to put it.

If the *only* reason you left was because of your gut feeling, your gut was hopelessly wrong. Because, even in the wake of 9-11, even in the wake of other natural disasters, the East Coast is still there. The West Coast is still there. Mount Ranier is still there. You've wasted an enormous amount of energy on fantasy.

The fact that you don't have the uneasy feeling anymore, and the fact that life is treating you pretty fairly now, is irrelevant.

Your haunting feeling had no basis in reality. There is no data supporting your decision. I am glad you are content, but your decisions were irrational.

As is your continued following of institutes like Farsight or Psicop, or your continued following of people like Clif and Nancy Lieder.

But you *refuse* to learn this, which I cannot fathom.


But hey - we all have our destiny. It's OK to accept the danger and enjoy life on the coast - just don't be in DENIAL about it, or laugh at those who AREN'T.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Because natural disasters *never* happen in your particular neck of the woods, right?

Right.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


>> If the *only* reason you left was because of your gut feeling, your gut was hopelessly wrong. Because, even in the wake of 9-11, even in the wake of other natural disasters, the East Coast is still there. The West Coast is still there. Mount Ranier is still there. You've wasted an enormous amount of energy on fantasy.

I had no "imminent" feeling of danger while I lived on the East Coast, or when visiting Seattle. The feeling was connected to a sense of danger if I put down ROOTS and settled in either area for the LONG TERM.

I'm here in Northern Illinois for the LONG TERM - come "hell or high water" as they say. Of course here, I have more reason to worry about "hell" than "high water".
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Isn't the cape on the east coast of FL not southwest?

We own a home in Tampa...okay, we own 1/3 of it. If I could find a job doing Network Systems Administration so I could use my degree, I'd be making better money and could get that place paid off so it becomes an asset instead of a liability. But, for now, I'm just glad to have a job...even if it does pay $15,000/yr less than where I would like to be. I actually start a new job on Jul 2 doing IT support for a medical group. The job actually pays $110 a month less than my current job, but, because it's only 5 miles from home (40 miles closer than my current job), my monthly fuel costs will go down about $200. I also won't have to take my daughter to before school care saving us $30 a month. We're refinancing the house here and that will save us another $70 a month. Wish I could re-fi the place in Tampa since it has a 5.75% interest rate but Wells Fargo won't do it unless we can put 20% down since we don't actually live in the house.
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House on west coast - work on east coast.
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Ban melfy!!!!
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30 Days in the cooler for Melfey!!!

Ps. hi everybody !
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Ban melfy!!!!
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30 Days in the cooler for Melfey!!!

Ps. hi everybody !
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Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
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Ban melfy!!!!
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30 Days in the cooler for Melfey!!!

Ps. hi everybody !
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 17544463


Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Make it 40 days and 40 nights !!
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I think I posted about Prudence Calabrese being associated with Ed Dames, before. Oops. I meant to say Courtney Brown. Pru was his second-in-command, as I recall, and had some really interesting experiences with something/someone she called "grey dude".
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Ban melfy!!!!
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30 Days in the cooler for Melfey!!!

Ps. hi everybody !
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 17544463


Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


and then you, and your handlers, can celebrate another massive fail and find some new nonsense to spew

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Of course Clif lives near Seattle - but then he's a "boat guy" - I'm not.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What good is a boat going to do if something hits the ocean with enough force to flood all the earth's coastal areas?

It's the "we're going on a fun camp out" component of the disaster conspiracy theories.
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Clif is obviously not worried about the doom he predicts, but he's willing to scam money off others and sell them scary doom and survival gear to keep his boat in the water. The fact that Clif lives in a "danger zone" while encouraging others to flee should be a clue for you, Melfytroll, about his true intentions. After all, just a few months ago he admitted he makes this shit up.
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Ban melfy!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4832919


30 Days in the cooler for Melfey!!!

Ps. hi everybody !
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 17544463


Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: **melfy the weasel**


Make it 40 days and 40 nights !!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 17544463


At the very minimum!!!
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Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think you meant to say:

Just 10 days until another failure!!!!

shocked
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Well, today was the summer solstice...although it was cloudy and rainy at Stonehenge. No doubt Nancy will claim the government or the "Zetas" made it that way so no one would be able to see that the the sun didn't line up with the marker and, therefore, notice that the Earth is wobbling. After all, those pesky "Zetas" are just as guilty as the government at covering any evidence of "Planet X."

[link to www.washingtonpost.com]

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Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think you meant to say:

Just 10 days until another failure!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


success
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you know- I am now firmly of the opinion that melfy should be banned from this thread

I know that TLR is the only one that can do it, as the op, but I think he has to be a paid member to do so??

I am willing to pay his fees if this is the case, just to see melfy denied his last trolling platform

melfy is both terminally in denial, and actively supporting people who have caused people to lose their money, friends, family and even their lives

enough is enough, I am willing to put up the $$ to have this sick little liar banned once and for all
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you know- I am now firmly of the opinion that melfy should be banned from this thread

I know that TLR is the only one that can do it, as the op, but I think he has to be a paid member to do so??

I am willing to pay his fees if this is the case, just to see melfy denied his last trolling platform

melfy is both terminally in denial, and actively supporting people who have caused people to lose their money, friends, family and even their lives

enough is enough, I am willing to put up the $$ to have this sick little liar banned once and for all
 Quoting: aussie 763624 18387463


And that would be my ultimate VICTORY! For then, I will have pushed the debunkers into doing the **ONE** thing that to date they have PRIDED themselves on --NOT-- doing; i.e., emulating the great villian Nancy Lieder and her penchant for

BanHim

voices that disagree with her - and without behaving in any manner that even begins to rise to the abusive behavior of the debunkers themselves.

BAN ME, and you prove yourselves the rabid hypocrites I have always maintained that from DAY ONE you actually are!!!

IT WILL BE MY LAST AND GREATEST VICTORY!!! I will have decidedly and undeniably unmasked you.

And I am sure there will be plenty of folks who will never tire of reminding you all of that.

For you will be banning me for simply DEFENDING myself in the face of the mountains of abuse that have been heaped on me since day one in this thread. Even that last smilie, which goaded an offer to compensate TLR, was in response to Circuit Breaker's mocking of me.

Apparently "self defense" and "free speech" are not rights to be enjoyed in the <sarcasm>GREAT DEBUNKER THREAD</sarcasm>. - just as they are fading in our greater society as a whole. (US, Canada, Australia, UK - take your pick).

(Of course the debunkers will say I am "paranoid" for saying that, without of course expressly denying that it was in any way an incorrect assertion - for of course IT IS. They'll just never admit it, or discuss it.)

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Just 10 days of "normalcy" left!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think you meant to say:

Just 10 days until another failure!!!!

shocked
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


:success:
 Quoting: **melfy the soon to be banned troll**


Nie to see you admit to trolling. Going to be nicer to see your sorry, lying ass BANNED!!!

Hey, i would contribute to a paid membership to TLR to ban this worthless trolling sack of shit too!
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you know- I am now firmly of the opinion that melfy should be banned from this thread

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I don't know.

What fun would the thread be without ZetaMax?

I'm fairly certain it would quickly die.
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you know- I am now firmly of the opinion that melfy should be banned from this thread

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I don't know.

What fun would the thread be without ZetaMax?

I'm fairly certain it would quickly die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


I am willing to find out. And as long as liar LIEDer exists this thread will have plenty of comedy gold to laugh at!

BAN melfy!!!
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success
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You're definitely a troll...but I wouldn't say successful.
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you know- I am now firmly of the opinion that melfy should be banned from this thread

 Quoting: aussie 763624 18387463


I don't know.

What fun would the thread be without ZetaMax?

I'm fairly certain it would quickly die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


I am willing to find out. And as long as liar LIEDer exists this thread will have plenty of comedy gold to laugh at!

BAN melfy!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4832919


>> I am willing to find out.

Of course you are - because you are completely blinded by the need for REVENGE stemming from how you embarrassed yourself during our very first worded exchange. How old are you kid, eighteen, nineteen - twenty at the most? Believe me, your's is not the best way to go about winning friends and influencing people. (And I'm not referring to myself, either)

Get wise kid - not "even". You'll go a lot farther that way.
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success
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You're definitely a troll...but I wouldn't say successful.
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I'm afraid you're mistaking me for thyself.

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you know- I am now firmly of the opinion that melfy should be banned from this thread

 Quoting: aussie 763624 18387463


I don't know.

What fun would the thread be without ZetaMax?

I'm fairly certain it would quickly die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


I am willing to find out. And as long as liar LIEDer exists this thread will have plenty of comedy gold to laugh at!

BAN melfy!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4832919


>> I am willing to find out.

Of course you are - because you are completely blinded by the need for REVENGE stemming from how you embarrassed yourself during our very first worded exchange. How old are you kid, eighteen, nineteen - twenty at the most? Believe me, your's is not the best way to go about winning friends and influencing people. (And I'm not referring to myself, either)

Get wise kid - not "even". You'll go a lot farther that way.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You talk big for a soon to be banned confessed liar, troll, shill and runner of sock puppets. Project much zippy? Why sure you do!!!

Ban melfy!
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Gee, melfy, a person would have to have a heart of stone to read your whine and not laught his ass of at your bleating, whining and crying!
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I'm afraid you're mistaking me for thyself.
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Nope.
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Gee, melfy, a person would have to have a heart of stone to read your whine and not laught his ass of at your bleating, whining and crying!
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You really are blind to the whole game aren't you? For starters you're a latecomer. This "contest" between me and the debunkers goes back to at least 2006, and with Nancy well over a decade. The one theme that the debunkers have always boasted the most loudly about was how they would never ban anyone for merely expressing themselves in ways that did not violate GLP rules for the entire site. Surprisingly, they have stayed true to that. Not, in my opinion, because they are true lovers of "free speech", but because it gave them leverage over Nancy, and those who followed her material.

But **YOU** come along and out of a mindless and completely selfish desire for self-gratification, call loudly and repeatedly for my banning, just so you can feel somehow "superior" to me. You could care less about how ANYONE ELSE who visits or enjoys this thread feels about it. And indeed voices have come forward saying they are not in favor of me being banned. But YOU don't care about THEM - oh no. You just want to celebrate your own little personal victory, with no thought about how it might disappoint hundreds of other folks who visit and enjoy the banter of this thread. Just look at the viewcount you self-possessed gratification whore, and note that this thread gets HUNDREDS of views a DAY.

But you don't care about them, about the threads history, or the fact that your victory means the ultimate defeat of not only the debunkers one "claim to fame", but probably the very future of this thread itself.

Consider Menow - who dislikes me almost as much, if not as much as you do. He ignores me, and tries to persuade others to do the same. But he has never called for my outright BANNING. Mainly because he enjoys recounting all the banning activity going on over at the Ning. Calling for my banning would compromise his "moral high ground" - and he knows it.

But that's all lost on you - isn't it??

You are the ultimate hypocrite, and frankly I'm surprised the other debunkers have put up with you at all.

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Gee, melfy, a person would have to have a heart of stone to read your whine and not laught his ass of at your bleating, whining and crying!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4832919


You really are blind to the whole game aren't you? For starters you're a latecomer. This "contest" between me and the debunkers goes back to at least 2006, and with Nancy well over a decade. The one theme that the debunkers have always boasted the most loudly about was how they would never ban anyone for merely expressing themselves in ways that did not violate GLP rules for the entire site. Surprisingly, they have stayed true to that. Not, in my opinion, because they are true lovers of "free speech", but because it gave them leverage over Nancy, and those who followed her material.

But **YOU** come along and out of a mindless and completely selfish desire for self-gratification, call loudly and repeatedly for my banning, just so you can feel somehow "superior" to me. You could care less about how ANYONE ELSE who visits or enjoys this thread feels about it. And indeed voices have come forward saying they are not in favor of me being banned. But YOU don't care about THEM - oh no. You just want to celebrate your own little personal victory, with no thought about how it might disappoint hundreds of other folks who visit and enjoy the banter of this thread. Just look at the viewcount you self-possessed gratification whore, and note that this thread gets HUNDREDS of views a DAY.

But you don't care about them, about the threads history, or the fact that your victory means the ultimate defeat of not only the debunkers one "claim to fame", but probably the very future of this thread itself.

Consider Menow - who dislikes me almost as much, if not as much as you do. He ignores me, and tries to persuade others to do the same. But he has never called for my outright BANNING. Mainly because he enjoys recounting all the banning activity going on over at the Ning. Calling for my banning would compromise his "moral high ground" - and he knows it.

But that's all lost on you - isn't it??

You are the ultimate hypocrite, and frankly I'm surprised the other debunkers have put up with you at all.
 Quoting: **melfy the soon to be banned**


You do not have a clue who am, zippy.

But we all know who and what you are, you are the asshole who called everyone you disagreed with a shill, who claimed you were a fence sitter, and a shill for every crackpot idea and conman out there. AND, you are an admitted liar, troll, shill and sock puppet runner. Remember bridget, zippy? Sure you do.

BAN melfy!!!!
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Gee, melfy, a person would have to have a heart of stone to read your whine and not laught his ass of at your bleating, whining and crying!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4832919


You really are blind to the whole game aren't you? For starters you're a latecomer. This "contest" between me and the debunkers goes back to at least 2006, and with Nancy well over a decade. The one theme that the debunkers have always boasted the most loudly about was how they would never ban anyone for merely expressing themselves in ways that did not violate GLP rules for the entire site. Surprisingly, they have stayed true to that. Not, in my opinion, because they are true lovers of "free speech", but because it gave them leverage over Nancy, and those who followed her material.

But **YOU** come along and out of a mindless and completely selfish desire for self-gratification, call loudly and repeatedly for my banning, just so you can feel somehow "superior" to me. You could care less about how ANYONE ELSE who visits or enjoys this thread feels about it. And indeed voices have come forward saying they are not in favor of me being banned. But YOU don't care about THEM - oh no. You just want to celebrate your own little personal victory, with no thought about how it might disappoint hundreds of other folks who visit and enjoy the banter of this thread. Just look at the viewcount you self-possessed gratification whore, and note that this thread gets HUNDREDS of views a DAY.

But you don't care about them, about the threads history, or the fact that your victory means the ultimate defeat of not only the debunkers one "claim to fame", but probably the very future of this thread itself.

Consider Menow - who dislikes me almost as much, if not as much as you do. He ignores me, and tries to persuade others to do the same. But he has never called for my outright BANNING. Mainly because he enjoys recounting all the banning activity going on over at the Ning. Calling for my banning would compromise his "moral high ground" - and he knows it.

But that's all lost on you - isn't it??

You are the ultimate hypocrite, and frankly I'm surprised the other debunkers have put up with you at all.
 Quoting: **melfy the soon to be banned**


You do not have a clue who am, zippy.

But we all know who and what you are, you are the asshole who called everyone you disagreed with a shill, who claimed you were a fence sitter, and a shill for every crackpot idea and conman out there. AND, you are an admitted liar, troll, shill and sock puppet runner. Remember bridget, zippy? Sure you do.

BAN melfy!!!!
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>> You do not have a clue who am, zippy.

Someone without a strong command of English grammer? Or pride in his delivery?

>> who called everyone you disagreed with a shill

An opinion - some would categorize it as "political speech", which in the United States has historically been considered the "most protected" form of speech.

>> who claimed you were a fence sitter

I still claim it. Again, a form of "political speech" - you know, the most protected form?

>> a shill for every crackpot idea and conman out there

Gross exaggeration - but then was what got us off on the wrong foot to begin with, wasn't it?

>> AND, you are an admitted liar, troll, shill and sock puppet runner.

Links? Other than "Bridget"?? The statute of limitations has run on that one. But then you would be the first to abolish those - wouldn't you? (If you even know what they ARE - much less the historical purpose for them.)

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>> who called everyone you disagreed with a shill

An opinion - some would categorize it as "political speech", which in the United States has historically been considered the "most protected" form of speech.
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Defamation is neither political nor protected speech.
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>> who called everyone you disagreed with a shill

An opinion - some would categorize it as "political speech", which in the United States has historically been considered the "most protected" form of speech.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Defamation is neither political nor protected speech.
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Given there is evidence in the form of mainstream articles that the "government" (read DOD) does indeed hire contractors (through public relations firms) to infiltrate and influence social media, how can such a "speculation" amount to defamation? In order to move forward on a claim of defamation, you have to actually show that you were DEFAMED. Has anyone denied you employment, a plane ticket, or soft toilet tissue because ZetaMax suggested you might have a secondary occupation as a shill? Can you show believable "emotional distress" as a result of such alleged "defamation" - beyond a hernia from laughing too much?

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