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The truth sometimes hurts.
 Quoting: The Truth Teller aka Astrogal50

And the only one it's hurting is you. Sucks for you.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.
 Quoting: The Truth Teller aka Astrogal50

Because you haven't presented any compelling, concrete and verifiable evidence that anything you claimed was true.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.
 Quoting: The Truth Teller aka Astrogal50

I have no idea what crucifixion you're referring to...but whatever.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller aka Astrogal50

Well, I guess you'll know if it ever happens. My guess is you'll still be ranting on about "Planet X" coming 10, 15, 20 and even 30 years from now.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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And remember this: There is NO IP address in this world in name name, none. Unfounded allegations absent positive proof = pure speculation. But operating in the absence of facts does not stop the very immature souls from doing their thing, whatever it takes to get some attention from strangers to make an immature soul feel a little bit better.
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680


Funny how you talk about proof and then offer none to support your claims. Sounds like all you have is pure speculation. It's also interesting how the rest of your statement really applies to people like you...especially considering you came to a thread where you knew "debunkers" would be. So, who's the one trying to get attention?

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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680


Then what? I guess if that day ever comes, you will have about a nano second to think "zetas right again" while lying in your trench, clutching your sod covered sheet metal, before you are wiped off the face of the planet with every other living thing. We were supposed to see the bloody imaginary planet in 2003. We're still waiting. Maybe you should go bake some banana worm bread and stop whining about crucifixions and showing your utter ignorance about IPs.
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?

...

And remember this: There is NO IP address in this world in name name, none. Unfounded allegations absent positive proof = pure speculation. But operating in the absence of facts does not stop the very immature souls from doing their thing, whatever it takes to get some attention from strangers to make an immature soul feel a little bit better.

 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680



Funny,
why should WE be willing to listen TO YOU, when you always fail to bring up solid arguments?
AND even now we keep listening to you, even though you avoided the simple questions for a second time lol!

You're doing nothing more than announcing that you're going to stick your head in the sand because you obviously cant face critique. (Yeah just go hide like a coward!)

What are you anxious about? Facts? Analysis that may prove Nancy wrong?

Heh heh!

I will not make the mistake to argue with your "soul maturity" or that "hits say something about validity", but will continue to stick with FACTS instead of claims.

That said,

"We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?"

Then what?

EASY TO ANSWER:

VENUS STILL TRAVELED AS PREDICTED = NANCY WRONG,

EARTH IS NOT HALTED IN ITS ORBIT = NANCY WRONG,

THE APPEARANCE ON NEUMAYER 3 REMAINS A LENSEFLARE = NANCY WRONG,

THE OBJECTS ON SOHO EIT 171 REMAIN DIRT ON THE LENSE = NANCY WRONG,

ALBERTO'S IMAGES REMAIN LENSEFLARES = NANCY WRONG,

LOTHAR, KEN, MARIA, T - REMAIN THEMSELVES AND ARE NOT FAKES = NANCY WRONG.

NANCY WRONG = ZETATALK WRONG.

Want me to bring up other FACTS that Nancy is wrong? (Btw: Herewith you get the chance for a third time to prove otherwise)


The obvious problem you have is:

You cannot discern between a Fact and a claim because you feel more comfortable with Nancy's whacky version of reality!

Of course it is more interesting to believe that you're the most wanted person on the planet than admitting that you are a NOBODY!

Of course it is more comfortable to believe that you're from 7th density because you assume that your imperfections are "determination that humans cannot understand"!

Geez! ....please wake up as you are smarter than that!

Why are you always paranoid about people thinking you're "nuts" even if nobody claimed that?

Why are you always so paranoid that someone may not accept that you're from 7th density? (You are not honey!)

Why are you always paranoid when someone mentions your name while you're absent, crying wolf that they are "talking behind your back"?

Why cant you face any critique about yourself and instead aggressively bring up the claim that you're from 7th density as if that would mean something?

Why do you always insist that you dont have an ego at all while YOU ALWAYS push your alleged "PEN #1" / "7th density"- status on the next best occasion?


Honey, dont get me wrong but reality is that you're a paranoid, insecure wreck and you need serious help!


Get real! All thoughts are your own and you'd better listen to your body as it is warning you.


You risk to waste your entire life supporting Nancy's claims (that btw were proven wrong already), finding yourself in a dead-end, misleading thousands of people.


Unfortunately it is likely that you will again ignore the facts and remain in obvious denial.


Why?
Because you see what you want to see and reality is too hard to contemplate for your mind at the current moment.


PLEASE JUST GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS CAREFULLY.
It will be so obvious that the truth will be right before your eyes and you just need to open them!
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And yes, I am the former moderator CoS and "The Truth Teller" aka. "More about fake personas" is astrogal50 a current Moderator from the PS-Ning.

The "crucifixion" how she calls it, will be the exposal of Nancy's well-placed lies about her with the goal to create a sort of "manchurian candidate". (Nancy was really nasty on that one)

Astrogal50 can be considered Nancy's right arm or the executive authority and is higher in the hierarchy than Gerard. (Which btw is a really nice guy! ...but more tomorrow)

Astrogal is not relevant per se, though her assigned "role" and the resulting influence is of importance.

Also, she did nothing wrong (another very-human victim of Nancy) and does not need to be anxious about anything.

You are not my target! It is Nancy who's having a clear mind while lying at people, dont worry!
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680


Pathetic...Nancy has been peddling this crap since 1995. Planet eX was supposed to cause all this doom and gloom in 2003. Nine years later and idiots like you still believe this nonsense.

How many more years are you going to wait before you come to the realization that it's all crap?
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?

...

And remember this: There is NO IP address in this world in name name, none. Unfounded allegations absent positive proof = pure speculation. But operating in the absence of facts does not stop the very immature souls from doing their thing, whatever it takes to get some attention from strangers to make an immature soul feel a little bit better.

 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680



Funny,
why should WE be willing to listen TO YOU, when you always fail to bring up solid arguments?
AND even now we keep listening to you, even though you avoided the simple questions for a second time lol!

You're doing nothing more than announcing that you're going to stick your head in the sand because you obviously cant face critique. (Yeah just go hide like a coward!)

What are you anxious about? Facts? Analysis that may prove Nancy wrong?

Heh heh!

I will not make the mistake to argue with your "soul maturity" or that "hits say something about validity", but will continue to stick with FACTS instead of claims.

That said,

"We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?"

Then what?

EASY TO ANSWER:

VENUS STILL TRAVELED AS PREDICTED = NANCY WRONG,

EARTH IS NOT HALTED IN ITS ORBIT = NANCY WRONG,

THE APPEARANCE ON NEUMAYER 3 REMAINS A LENSEFLARE = NANCY WRONG,

THE OBJECTS ON SOHO EIT 171 REMAIN DIRT ON THE LENSE = NANCY WRONG,

ALBERTO'S IMAGES REMAIN LENSEFLARES = NANCY WRONG,

LOTHAR, KEN, MARIA, T - REMAIN THEMSELVES AND ARE NOT FAKES = NANCY WRONG.

NANCY WRONG = ZETATALK WRONG.

Want me to bring up other FACTS that Nancy is wrong? (Btw: Herewith you get the chance for a third time to prove otherwise)


The obvious problem you have is:

You cannot discern between a Fact and a claim because you feel more comfortable with Nancy's whacky version of reality!

Of course it is more interesting to believe that you're the most wanted person on the planet than admitting that you are a NOBODY!

Of course it is more comfortable to believe that you're from 7th density because you assume that your imperfections are "determination that humans cannot understand"!

Geez! ....please wake up as you are smarter than that!

Why are you always paranoid about people thinking you're "nuts" even if nobody claimed that?

Why are you always so paranoid that someone may not accept that you're from 7th density? (You are not honey!)

Why are you always paranoid when someone mentions your name while you're absent, crying wolf that they are "talking behind your back"?

Why cant you face any critique about yourself and instead aggressively bring up the claim that you're from 7th density as if that would mean something?

Why do you always insist that you dont have an ego at all while YOU ALWAYS push your alleged "PEN #1" / "7th density"- status on the next best occasion?


Honey, dont get me wrong but reality is that you're a paranoid, insecure wreck and you need serious help!


Get real! All thoughts are your own and you'd better listen to your body as it is warning you.


You risk to waste your entire life supporting Nancy's claims (that btw were proven wrong already), finding yourself in a dead-end, misleading thousands of people.


Unfortunately it is likely that you will again ignore the facts and remain in obvious denial.


Why?
Because you see what you want to see and reality is too hard to contemplate for your mind at the current moment.


PLEASE JUST GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS CAREFULLY.
It will be so obvious that the truth will be right before your eyes and you just need to open them!
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 19131381


It is very, very hard to turn away from a belief system you have invested heavily in, so you have my respect, for what that's worth.

Good luck to you, and thanks for the continued looks at life within Zetatalk. You're a brave soul.
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OH, and for the latest:

Thread: ZETA TALK mutiny - ZT collapses! Email blast from former moderator!
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680

Omigod, short before the ultimative final failure another full square idiot shows up...

Boy, you are a little bit late, are you ?
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This made my day!

Now I know why my long time exposures of the night sky are always blurry: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
(They dug it out from February.)

1rof1


.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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"...soon enough... it will become apparent maybe... later..."

 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680


Heh.
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>> apart from Hap, he got his dinner from melfy

laugh Even I have to laugh - indeed, Hap is undeniably NOW a ... PAID DEBUNKER.


 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


He was, eventually, a paid BETTER, you insufferable jackass.
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680


S.O.P. since the beginning of the Zetatalk cult. Refuse to answer questions and run away. Yawn...
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This made my day!

Now I know why my long time exposures of the night sky are always blurry: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
(They dug it out from February.)

1rof1


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Howard is FOS. It's the satellite that's moving and not the Earth.

Fengyun 2D's (FY-2D) does not have a perfect geostationary orbit. Like SDO, it traces a small figure-eight over a point on the Earth.

This is going to be a subject of a new zetasquawk post later tonight.

FY-2D track animation:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]

Last Edited by bob_909 on 07/05/2012 11:01 AM
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680

Omigod, short before the ultimative final failure another full square idiot shows up...

Boy, you are a little bit late, are you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


I'm now following this thread ... pretty DOOMY!!!

Thread: Remote Viewing ... Last Night's Session -- DROUGHT & FAMINE & BRAINWASHING?

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>> apart from Hap, he got his dinner from melfy

laugh Even I have to laugh - indeed, Hap is undeniably NOW a ... PAID DEBUNKER.


 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


He was, eventually, a paid BETTER, you insufferable jackass.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Love you too!! blwkss
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The truth sometimes hurts.

It has become apparent that since no one is willing to listen there is no point in my posting again.

That means I will not be reading whatever crucifixion is apparently planned for me, except I know I will survive it.

We shall see who is right when everyone can see PX with their own two eyes. Then what?
 Quoting: The Truth Teller 19105680

Omigod, short before the ultimative final failure another full square idiot shows up...

Boy, you are a little bit late, are you ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


I'm now following this thread ... pretty DOOMY!!!

Thread: Remote Viewing ... Last Night's Session -- DROUGHT & FAMINE & BRAINWASHING?

doomon
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Uh huh...

You'll believe anything won't you?

Pretty freaking pathetic when you have to live your life based on the supposed predictions of others. Proves to me that you've got a very flimsy grasp on reality and are basically a SHEEP!

Baaaahhhh Max....baaaahhhhh!
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This made my day!

Now I know why my long time exposures of the night sky are always blurry: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
(They dug it out from February.)

1rof1


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Howard is FOS. It's the satellite that's moving and not the Earth.

Fengyun 2D's (FY-2D) does not have a perfect geostationary orbit. Like SDO, it traces a small figure-eight over a point on the Earth.

This is going to be a subject of a new zetasquawk post later tonight.

FY-2D track animation:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
 Quoting: bob_909


Need to agree about the FY-2D images.
Howard btw is a very intelligent guy in my opinion....though as all Mods, when it goes to ZT or Nancy their brains switch to standby (as occured with me).

We kept watching the FY-2D images for a long while, or at least some of us.
One of the PS-Mods is running a program on his server that its only purpose is to archive FY-2D images.

In-fact I originally progged it because I wanted to observe the FY-2D images over a longer period of time to see how the allgeded "earth wobble" behaves on more than 8 frames.

After a period of time when enough images were collected that Moderator passed me a copy of the images and I went to make a gif-animation of it.

What does it shows?

Et voila: [link to www.imagebanana.com]

A perfect figure 8 "wobble" every 24 hours and proof that this cannot be an "earth wobble".

Of course I'd have better checked the details of the geostat-orbit first, but as the current Moderators I felt more comfortable to believe Nancy's BS instead of reading through the scientific jungle^^

Yes.. yes... doing your "homework" can avoid a lot of meander.

BTW: Thanks everyone for your support!
Hydra for providing backups, the hated "debunkers" for assuring facts remain facts and even ZetaMax, Nancy or the others who give us a chance to grow over our mistakes.

(Dont get me wrong Max, you are not to be compared with Nancy (a cold-blodded raptor in this regard)... though in my opinion also you need to jump over your shadow and discard this crap if it is not based on reality. Afterall, screw that you have been wrong and frack that people may believe you are "helpless"!
Our personal comfort really does not matter in all this and the sooner you put these anxieties aside the sooner you will realize that people take you for what you are: An imperfect human. - which btw counts for all the PS-Mods or people in denial aswell. )

Cheers...

Lets stay focused and not get too distracted with insults or praising as Nancy is still hunting for people and need to be stopped, the sooner the better.

hf
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This made my day!

Now I know why my long time exposures of the night sky are always blurry: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
(They dug it out from February.)

1rof1


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Howard is FOS. It's the satellite that's moving and not the Earth.

Fengyun 2D's (FY-2D) does not have a perfect geostationary orbit. Like SDO, it traces a small figure-eight over a point on the Earth.

This is going to be a subject of a new zetasquawk post later tonight.

FY-2D track animation:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
 Quoting: bob_909


Need to agree about the FY-2D images.
Howard btw is a very intelligent guy in my opinion....though as all Mods, when it goes to ZT or Nancy their brains switch to standby (as occured with me).

We kept watching the FY-2D images for a long while, or at least some of us.
One of the PS-Mods is running a program on his server that its only purpose is to archive FY-2D images.

In-fact I originally progged it because I wanted to observe the FY-2D images over a longer period of time to see how the allgeded "earth wobble" behaves on more than 8 frames.

After a period of time when enough images were collected that Moderator passed me a copy of the images and I went to make a gif-animation of it.

What does it shows?

Et voila: [link to www.imagebanana.com]

A perfect figure 8 "wobble" every 24 hours and proof that this cannot be an "earth wobble".

Of course I'd have better checked the details of the geostat-orbit first, but as the current Moderators I felt more comfortable to believe Nancy's BS instead of reading through the scientific jungle^^

Yes.. yes... doing your "homework" can avoid a lot of meander.

BTW: Thanks everyone for your support!
Hydra for providing backups, the hated "debunkers" for assuring facts remain facts and even ZetaMax, Nancy or the others who give us a chance to grow over our mistakes.

(Dont get me wrong Max, you are not to be compared with Nancy (a cold-blodded raptor in this regard)... though in my opinion also you need to jump over your shadow and discard this crap if it is not based on reality. Afterall, screw that you have been wrong and frack that people may believe you are "helpless"!
Our personal comfort really does not matter in all this and the sooner you put these anxieties aside the sooner you will realize that people take you for what you are: An imperfect human. - which btw counts for all the PS-Mods or people in denial aswell. )

Cheers...

Lets stay focused and not get too distracted with insults or praising as Nancy is still hunting for people and need to be stopped, the sooner the better.

hf
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 16056172


I believe that one of the recently defected mods was the one who banned me from the ning for daring to offer links to lunar images or ask intelligent questions about Nancy's "Moon tilt" nonsense. How anybody can believe that crap is beyond me. I'd like to hear your opinion as to whether the terms "brainwashed" and "cult" are properly applied to what Nancy and Zetatalk have done/are doing.
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This made my day!

Now I know why my long time exposures of the night sky are always blurry: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
(They dug it out from February.)

1rof1


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Howard is FOS. It's the satellite that's moving and not the Earth.

Fengyun 2D's (FY-2D) does not have a perfect geostationary orbit. Like SDO, it traces a small figure-eight over a point on the Earth.

This is going to be a subject of a new zetasquawk post later tonight.

FY-2D track animation:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
 Quoting: bob_909


Need to agree about the FY-2D images.
Howard btw is a very intelligent guy in my opinion....though as all Mods, when it goes to ZT or Nancy their brains switch to standby (as occured with me).

We kept watching the FY-2D images for a long while, or at least some of us.
One of the PS-Mods is running a program on his server that its only purpose is to archive FY-2D images.

In-fact I originally progged it because I wanted to observe the FY-2D images over a longer period of time to see how the allgeded "earth wobble" behaves on more than 8 frames.

After a period of time when enough images were collected that Moderator passed me a copy of the images and I went to make a gif-animation of it.

What does it shows?

Et voila: [link to www.imagebanana.com]

A perfect figure 8 "wobble" every 24 hours and proof that this cannot be an "earth wobble".

Of course I'd have better checked the details of the geostat-orbit first, but as the current Moderators I felt more comfortable to believe Nancy's BS instead of reading through the scientific jungle^^

Yes.. yes... doing your "homework" can avoid a lot of meander.

BTW: Thanks everyone for your support!
Hydra for providing backups, the hated "debunkers" for assuring facts remain facts and even ZetaMax, Nancy or the others who give us a chance to grow over our mistakes.

(Dont get me wrong Max, you are not to be compared with Nancy (a cold-blodded raptor in this regard)... though in my opinion also you need to jump over your shadow and discard this crap if it is not based on reality. Afterall, screw that you have been wrong and frack that people may believe you are "helpless"!
Our personal comfort really does not matter in all this and the sooner you put these anxieties aside the sooner you will realize that people take you for what you are: An imperfect human. - which btw counts for all the PS-Mods or people in denial aswell. )

Cheers...

Lets stay focused and not get too distracted with insults or praising as Nancy is still hunting for people and need to be stopped, the sooner the better.

hf
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 16056172


I believe that one of the recently defected mods was the one who banned me from the ning for daring to offer links to lunar images or ask intelligent questions about Nancy's "Moon tilt" nonsense. How anybody can believe that crap is beyond me. I'd like to hear your opinion as to whether the terms "brainwashed" and "cult" are properly applied to what Nancy and Zetatalk have done/are doing.
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Seconded.
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Need to agree about the FY-2D images.
Howard btw is a very intelligent guy in my opinion....though as all Mods, when it goes to ZT or Nancy their brains switch to standby (as occured with me).

We kept watching the FY-2D images for a long while, or at least some of us.
One of the PS-Mods is running a program on his server that its only purpose is to archive FY-2D images.

In-fact I originally progged it because I wanted to observe the FY-2D images over a longer period of time to see how the allgeded "earth wobble" behaves on more than 8 frames.

After a period of time when enough images were collected that Moderator passed me a copy of the images and I went to make a gif-animation of it.

What does it shows?

Et voila: [link to www.imagebanana.com]

A perfect figure 8 "wobble" every 24 hours and proof that this cannot be an "earth wobble".

Of course I'd have better checked the details of the geostat-orbit first, but as the current Moderators I felt more comfortable to believe Nancy's BS instead of reading through the scientific jungle^^

Yes.. yes... doing your "homework" can avoid a lot of meander.

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Answer me this. Why are they so fixated on FY-2D and don't bother to compare it's images with the following weather satellites available on SSEC?

GOES East
GOES West
GOES 12
Meteosat 7
Meteosat 9
MTSAT
FY-2E
Kalpana

Are they afraid that if they compare them all, they won't support Howard's claims?
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Interesting little development on the ning. It would appear that they removed the "members" section that shows the number of registered members.

I wonder if it's to hide the rather low membership numbers (i.e., less than 3,000 when I last accessed it).

Update:

My mistake...it's not available from the main page but accessible other ways. However, member count is no longer on the page so you have to do a little counting. 21 members per page with 103 pages = 2,163 members. That's less than half the original number before the "purge".

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Need to agree about the FY-2D images.
Howard btw is a very intelligent guy in my opinion....though as all Mods, when it goes to ZT or Nancy their brains switch to standby (as occured with me).

We kept watching the FY-2D images for a long while, or at least some of us.
One of the PS-Mods is running a program on his server that its only purpose is to archive FY-2D images.

In-fact I originally progged it because I wanted to observe the FY-2D images over a longer period of time to see how the allgeded "earth wobble" behaves on more than 8 frames.

After a period of time when enough images were collected that Moderator passed me a copy of the images and I went to make a gif-animation of it.

What does it shows?

Et voila: [link to www.imagebanana.com]

A perfect figure 8 "wobble" every 24 hours and proof that this cannot be an "earth wobble".

Of course I'd have better checked the details of the geostat-orbit first, but as the current Moderators I felt more comfortable to believe Nancy's BS instead of reading through the scientific jungle^^

Yes.. yes... doing your "homework" can avoid a lot of meander.

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Answer me this. Why are they so fixated on FY-2D and don't bother to compare it's images with the following weather satellites available on SSEC?

GOES East
GOES West
GOES 12
Meteosat 7
Meteosat 9
MTSAT
FY-2E
Kalpana

Are they afraid that if they compare them all, they won't support Howard's claims?
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Yup.. they are fixated on FY-2D because it alledly shows a wobble so would seem to "confirm" Nancy's case i.e. they prefer to avoid anything that doesn't seem to fit into the picture.

As to wether they are brainwashed or not, I just updated the google-doc....

And as to why they removed the members-page, you are totally right.
They want to hide how less people are actually following the Ning....

BTW: The attitude of the mods is as follows:
If they delete one member because they said something certain in their profile answers, they will do it with all others too.
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btw Member Numbers,
Ning naturally has limitations, even though they managed to prevent the member-number from being shown,the memberpage is still accessible:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

On one page are 3 x 7 = 21 members, x 103 pages = 2163 members currently.

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This made my day!

Now I know why my long time exposures of the night sky are always blurry: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
(They dug it out from February.)

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Howard is FOS. It's the satellite that's moving and not the Earth.

Fengyun 2D's (FY-2D) does not have a perfect geostationary orbit. Like SDO, it traces a small figure-eight over a point on the Earth.

This is going to be a subject of a new zetasquawk post later tonight.

FY-2D track animation:

[link to www.zetasquawk.com]
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Need to agree about the FY-2D images.
Howard btw is a very intelligent guy in my opinion....though as all Mods, when it goes to ZT or Nancy their brains switch to standby (as occured with me).

We kept watching the FY-2D images for a long while, or at least some of us.
One of the PS-Mods is running a program on his server that its only purpose is to archive FY-2D images.

In-fact I originally progged it because I wanted to observe the FY-2D images over a longer period of time to see how the allgeded "earth wobble" behaves on more than 8 frames.

After a period of time when enough images were collected that Moderator passed me a copy of the images and I went to make a gif-animation of it.

What does it shows?

Et voila: [link to www.imagebanana.com]

A perfect figure 8 "wobble" every 24 hours and proof that this cannot be an "earth wobble".

Of course I'd have better checked the details of the geostat-orbit first, but as the current Moderators I felt more comfortable to believe Nancy's BS instead of reading through the scientific jungle^^

Yes.. yes... doing your "homework" can avoid a lot of meander.

BTW: Thanks everyone for your support!
Hydra for providing backups, the hated "debunkers" for assuring facts remain facts and even ZetaMax, Nancy or the others who give us a chance to grow over our mistakes.

(Dont get me wrong Max, you are not to be compared with Nancy (a cold-blodded raptor in this regard)... though in my opinion also you need to jump over your shadow and discard this crap if it is not based on reality. Afterall, screw that you have been wrong and frack that people may believe you are "helpless"!
Our personal comfort really does not matter in all this and the sooner you put these anxieties aside the sooner you will realize that people take you for what you are: An imperfect human. - which btw counts for all the PS-Mods or people in denial aswell. )

Cheers...

Lets stay focused and not get too distracted with insults or praising as Nancy is still hunting for people and need to be stopped, the sooner the better.

hf
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Wow, I really need a new sock for the ning. I hadn't kept up with the latest fixation over there. Had I known they were still fixated on Fengyun-2D I would have tracked it myself just like I did with SDO to solve the orbit, show what earth looks like from the perspective of that orbit, and show that it's just a normal consequence of the orbit itself.
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Interesting little development on the ning. It would appear that they removed the "members" section that shows the number of registered members.

I wonder if it's to hide the rather low membership numbers (i.e., less than 3,000 when I last accessed it).
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That certainly suggests that they're reading what takes place here.
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Added the new updates to "ZETA TALK mutiny ..."

Thread: ZETA TALK mutiny - ZT collapses! Email blast from former moderator! (Page 9)



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Wow, I really need a new sock for the ning. I hadn't kept up with the latest fixation over there. Had I known they were still fixated on Fengyun-2D I would have tracked it myself just like I did with SDO to solve the orbit, show what earth looks like from the perspective of that orbit, and show that it's just a normal consequence of the orbit itself.
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Yeah, they pushed the "Proof of the earth wobble" blog again.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Needless to say that they are only confirming again to be jumping on conclusions although its rather fortunate, so we can clear this up aswell.

BTW: Nancy is well aware that the public noticed her Proba2-fails or the Venus transite itself and is now trying to talk it down on her latest 7/10 status:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
"Poor blind NASA, too busy looking into the distance to notice what was causing a daily Earth wobble, fireballs screaming in, a sine wave wobble in Venus during the recent transit, and extreme twisting in the Earth’s magnetosphere. "

lol. Her original ZT-claims were a little more than "a sine wave wobble" (beside she was clearly confirming the Proba2 images).
Even Members on the Ning clearly prove the case that Venus traveled as predicted (though need to hide it under the pretense that it might be a cover-up, hehe):
[link to api.ning.com]
[link to poleshift.ning.com]


She's preparing the public to say that the only wrong about the Venus-transite was the slight wave-form produced by SDO's orbit.
And it will fail.
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Interesting little development on the ning. It would appear that they removed the "members" section that shows the number of registered members.

I wonder if it's to hide the rather low membership numbers (i.e., less than 3,000 when I last accessed it).
 Quoting: bob_909


That certainly suggests that they're reading what takes place here.
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Absolutely. I can confirm..
They are well aware of what the "debunkers" do.
Everyone who seriously counters the ZT-disinfo is quickly considered a "paid debunker". Cover-UP! Cover-UP! in their heads.
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She's preparing the public to say that the only wrong about the Venus-transite was the slight wave-form produced by SDO's orbit.
And it will fail.
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Indeed, the observed transit matched my results from SDO tracking perfectly. You can even see the same slight wave-form take place in my latest video showing a prediction of the transit based on the orbit I calculated for SDO.

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