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I find it quite amusing that the ningtards don't follow Occam's Razor - they go to extremes to bolster their beliefs in planet eX. They essentially take a conclusion, the Earth is wobbling, and work backwards to find supposed proof that their beliefs are true.
 Quoting: bob_909


The Scientific Method:
Here's the evidence - what conclusion can we draw from it?

The Woo-Woo Method:
Here's the conclusion - what evidence can we find to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The Suppression Method:

We know the evidence AND the conclusion, but we don't want the sheeple to know either one - so we'll deny BOTH.

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The Suppression Method:

We know the evidence AND the conclusion, but we don't want the sheeple to know either one - so we'll deny BOTH.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


You have no evidence that any such thing is taking place...only your personal belief. Just the same, what you say is pretty much the way it works in Clif's world - "I know my predictions are crap but I won't tell anyone because I want them to continue sending me money."

Oh, wait - he DID admit they were crap...but you keep sending him money anyway.
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I find it quite amusing that the ningtards don't follow Occam's Razor - they go to extremes to bolster their beliefs in planet eX. They essentially take a conclusion, the Earth is wobbling, and work backwards to find supposed proof that their beliefs are true.
 Quoting: bob_909


The Scientific Method:
Here's the evidence - what conclusion can we draw from it?

The Woo-Woo Method:
Here's the conclusion - what evidence can we find to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The Suppression Method:

We know the evidence AND the conclusion, but we don't want the sheeple to know either one - so we'll deny BOTH.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


but melfy- this means that ALL the evidence is actually deniable...

but this means that they have control of EVERY way of checking this evidence....


that's why nancy had such a major failure with me- her 2004 Venus transit never happened' mega atomic failure

She actually had the sheer balls to suggest that NASA had `modified' my equipment to make happen as they predicted...

So NASA had the money and people available to travel to Sydney, search every house to find usable equipment- no matter how hidden or unused- and secretly modify it so that it `might' be used to view the transit....

right....


and you have the utter gall to say that you are nothing like the person that started me off debunking nancy- because he was a fukin nutcase and you are nothing like him at all....

whaaa?????

you are (unfortunately) EXACTLY like him- a nutcase sprouting bull shitte- you say (LOL) that you aren't as bad as him- I say BS- you admitted you didn't even shower regularly- just like him...



so melfy- just how close to that `line' are you treading these days???
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I find it quite amusing that the ningtards don't follow Occam's Razor - they go to extremes to bolster their beliefs in planet eX. They essentially take a conclusion, the Earth is wobbling, and work backwards to find supposed proof that their beliefs are true.
 Quoting: bob_909


The Scientific Method:
Here's the evidence - what conclusion can we draw from it?

The Woo-Woo Method:
Here's the conclusion - what evidence can we find to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The Suppression Method:

We know the evidence AND the conclusion, but we don't want the sheeple to know either one - so we'll deny BOTH.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


but melfy- this means that ALL the evidence is actually deniable...

but this means that they have control of EVERY way of checking this evidence....


that's why nancy had such a major failure with me- her 2004 Venus transit never happened' mega atomic failure

She actually had the sheer balls to suggest that NASA had `modified' my equipment to make happen as they predicted...

So NASA had the money and people available to travel to Sydney, search every house to find usable equipment- no matter how hidden or unused- and secretly modify it so that it `might' be used to view the transit....

right....


and you have the utter gall to say that you are nothing like the person that started me off debunking nancy- because he was a fukin nutcase and you are nothing like him at all....

whaaa?????

you are (unfortunately) EXACTLY like him- a nutcase sprouting bull shitte- you say (LOL) that you aren't as bad as him- I say BS- you admitted you didn't even shower regularly- just like him...



so melfy- just how close to that `line' are you treading these days???
 Quoting: aussie 763624 19221124


So now I have a reputation for not bathing?

shocked
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I do not rant on street corners, and I am not homeless (though I could stand a shower - but hey, it's a HOLIDAY).

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OMG.

I haven't been back to this site in a year or more. I expected to spent at least a few minutes searching for this thread, which I assumed would be buried deep by now. After all, 2012 is more than halfway over, Venus just had ANOTHER perfectly normal transit, and PX is maintaining its perfect record of complete and utter non-existence.

But here's the Melfster, still spouting the same old tired nonsense (tired? Hell, by now, it's exhausted) in defense of Nancy's delusional mouthings.

Good to know some things never change.
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OMG.

I haven't been back to this site in a year or more. I expected to spent at least a few minutes searching for this thread, which I assumed would be buried deep by now. After all, 2012 is more than halfway over, Venus just had ANOTHER perfectly normal transit, and PX is maintaining its perfect record of complete and utter non-existence.

But here's the Melfster, still spouting the same old tired nonsense (tired? Hell, by now, it's exhausted) in defense of Nancy's delusional mouthings.

Good to know some things never change.
 Quoting: Returner 997


and I thought I had a low user number....

(and yup melfy hasn't changed his tune, although he has swung to the other side LOL- he's sprouting cliff b/s mostly instead of nancy b/s

maybe he's becoming a `nancyboy'???


LOL
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Cliff is that loon with the magic Internet eggs, right? The ones that magically predict the future (not)?

Seems about right for the Melfster.

Glad to see everyone is doing well despite our continuing annihilation by Planet X.
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Cliff is that loon with the magic Internet eggs, right? The ones that magically predict the future (not)?

Seems about right for the Melfster.

Glad to see everyone is doing well despite our continuing annihilation by Planet X.
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LOL.

Just like old times!
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Hey -- did Hap get his steak? How did all that play out?
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btw Member Numbers,
Ning naturally has limitations, even though they managed to prevent the member-number from being shown,the memberpage is still accessible:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

On one page are 3 x 7 = 21 members, x 103 pages = 2163 members currently.

hidingtounge
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The purge must still be ongoing - now it's only showing 92 pages - 21 x 92 = 1,932.

Stalin would be pleased.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Of course.

Close and lock the Church Doors, and place guards upon them.

If that Ning weren't virtual, I'd truly worry about Kool-Aid being passed around...
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Hey -- did Hap get his steak? How did all that play out?
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Yes - Hap got PAID - and became a PAID DEBUNKER.
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btw Member Numbers,
Ning naturally has limitations, even though they managed to prevent the member-number from being shown,the memberpage is still accessible:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

On one page are 3 x 7 = 21 members, x 103 pages = 2163 members currently.

hidingtounge
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The purge must still be ongoing - now it's only showing 92 pages - 21 x 92 = 1,932.

Stalin would be pleased.
 Quoting: bob_909


Think they are looking for the "Trojan horses".
At least one they didn't find yet. :-))


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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btw Member Numbers,
Ning naturally has limitations, even though they managed to prevent the member-number from being shown,the memberpage is still accessible:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

On one page are 3 x 7 = 21 members, x 103 pages = 2163 members currently.

hidingtounge
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 16056172


The purge must still be ongoing - now it's only showing 92 pages - 21 x 92 = 1,932.

Stalin would be pleased.
 Quoting: bob_909


Think they are looking for the "Trojan horses".
At least one they didn't find yet. :-))


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 Quoting: Hydra


Damn it, they burned my sock before I had a chance to unleash my volley of truth regarding SDO.
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Hey -- did Hap get his steak? How did all that play out?
 Quoting: Returner 997


Yes - Hap got PAID - and became a PAID DEBUNKER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Paid by YOU is not what the typical Doomie is tending to imply with their epithet.
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btw Member Numbers,
Ning naturally has limitations, even though they managed to prevent the member-number from being shown,the memberpage is still accessible:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

On one page are 3 x 7 = 21 members, x 103 pages = 2163 members currently.

hidingtounge
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 16056172


The purge must still be ongoing - now it's only showing 92 pages - 21 x 92 = 1,932.

Stalin would be pleased.
 Quoting: bob_909


Think they are looking for the "Trojan horses".
At least one they didn't find yet. :-))


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Damn it, they burned my sock before I had a chance to unleash my volley of truth regarding SDO.
 Quoting: Astromut


hehe, dont worry...All they can do is check your e-mail for records or scanning through your profile questions.

In that you can sign up anytime (considering you are not too obvious) and contact members via personal messages. (Fortunately they cannot spy on these).

They will call it "blackmailing" although if their "theories" are supposedly based on the truth they wouldn't need to worry anyway.
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Check out this one:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

The member writes:
"Consensus of good heads is this. The bright objects that seem to be rising when the Sun is setting are NOT the Moon (which is in the East), NOT Venus (because it would be moving right to left with the setting Sun, seen looking S from Antarctica). They are reflections on the cam windows. Note the bright lights move from left to right! The reflection bounce is making this apparent motion. If these lights were a planet, having a relationship to the Sun, they would be moving right to left, along with the Sun. Snap for 17:50 does, apparently, show Venus to the left of the Sun. Below, the Moon at Azumtu 120, and Venus as Azmuth 215."

and astrogal50's response:

"Wow. Now we know for sure why the debunkers are anxiously trying to debunk this evidence.

The Dark Twin does not officially even exist, and the Establishment most certainly does not (yet) agree that the Dark Twin is caught (and moving) in the cup with the earth and Venus. Admitting to that cup would also mean admitting the earth stopped in its orbit, and the Establishment (currently) fakes or quashes anything that shows otherwise."


.. she just don't gets it.

BTW: The Moon was there and just left the webcam to the left again:
[link to api.ning.com]

Skymap:
[link to www.imagebanana.com]

Cover-UP! Cover-UP! lol...
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Hey -- did Hap get his steak? How did all that play out?
 Quoting: Returner 997


Yes - Hap got PAID - and became a PAID DEBUNKER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Paid by YOU is not what the typical Doomie is tending to imply with their epithet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015670


I am going on record RIGHT NOW with a NEW PREDICTION:

Nothing out of the ordinary will happen at the London Olympics.

You heard it here FIRST!!!

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Yes - Hap got PAID - and became a PAID DEBUNKER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Since YOU did the paying, does that make YOU his handler?
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Check out this one:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

The member writes:
"Consensus of good heads is this. The bright objects that seem to be rising when the Sun is setting are NOT the Moon (which is in the East), NOT Venus (because it would be moving right to left with the setting Sun, seen looking S from Antarctica). They are reflections on the cam windows. Note the bright lights move from left to right! The reflection bounce is making this apparent motion. If these lights were a planet, having a relationship to the Sun, they would be moving right to left, along with the Sun. Snap for 17:50 does, apparently, show Venus to the left of the Sun. Below, the Moon at Azumtu 120, and Venus as Azmuth 215."

and astrogal50's response:

"Wow. Now we know for sure why the debunkers are anxiously trying to debunk this evidence.

The Dark Twin does not officially even exist, and the Establishment most certainly does not (yet) agree that the Dark Twin is caught (and moving) in the cup with the earth and Venus. Admitting to that cup would also mean admitting the earth stopped in its orbit, and the Establishment (currently) fakes or quashes anything that shows otherwise."


.. she just don't gets it.

BTW: The Moon was there and just left the webcam to the left again:
[link to api.ning.com]

Skymap:
[link to www.imagebanana.com]

Cover-UP! Cover-UP! lol...

 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 19248064


Mark Twain once said: "It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled."

I'd say that describes Nancy's followers to a T.
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Yes - Hap got PAID - and became a PAID DEBUNKER.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Since YOU did the paying, does that make YOU his handler?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


That admittedly, would be a stretch.

BUT I LIKE IT!!!

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Check out this one:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

The member writes:
"Consensus of good heads is this. The bright objects that seem to be rising when the Sun is setting are NOT the Moon (which is in the East), NOT Venus (because it would be moving right to left with the setting Sun, seen looking S from Antarctica). They are reflections on the cam windows. Note the bright lights move from left to right! The reflection bounce is making this apparent motion. If these lights were a planet, having a relationship to the Sun, they would be moving right to left, along with the Sun. Snap for 17:50 does, apparently, show Venus to the left of the Sun. Below, the Moon at Azumtu 120, and Venus as Azmuth 215."

and astrogal50's response:

"Wow. Now we know for sure why the debunkers are anxiously trying to debunk this evidence.

The Dark Twin does not officially even exist, and the Establishment most certainly does not (yet) agree that the Dark Twin is caught (and moving) in the cup with the earth and Venus. Admitting to that cup would also mean admitting the earth stopped in its orbit, and the Establishment (currently) fakes or quashes anything that shows otherwise."


.. she just don't gets it.

BTW: The Moon was there and just left the webcam to the left again:
[link to api.ning.com]

Skymap:
[link to www.imagebanana.com]

Cover-UP! Cover-UP! lol...

 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 19248064


Mark Twain once said: "It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled."

I'd say that describes Nancy's followers to a T.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yup.
Someone else posted this one on the other thread:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

same applies.

btw: wannabe Public Enemy #1 is still fighting with her doubts and doesn't want to understand that whenever a artificial lense is involved it will produce flares.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by astrogal50:
... Noticed that those same debunkers (currently) ignore all the other photographic and video evidence of Planet X made without a filter of any kind. Why is that?

So what are they going to say when the presence of Planet X can no longer be denied? Sorry, we were wrong (while some collect their untraceable debunking payments and prepare to save their own skins)? Please don't hold your breath waiting for any mea culpas from the debunkers/doubters/deniers.


Its not about mea-culpas gal, the only that matters is the truth!

(Nope, we wont hold our breaths waiting for a mea-culpa from the moderators who just dont know what they're doing!)
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Comment by astrogal50:
... Noticed that those same debunkers (currently) ignore all the other photographic and video evidence of Planet X made without a filter of any kind. Why is that?

So what are they going to say when the presence of Planet X can no longer be denied? Sorry, we were wrong (while some collect their untraceable debunking payments and prepare to save their own skins)? Please don't hold your breath waiting for any mea culpas from the debunkers/doubters/deniers.

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I can't WAIT to see what she has to say 10 years from now when she's STILL waiting for this imaginary planet to show up. More than likely, it will be nothing but excuses since I don't think she'll EVER realize she was fooled.

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That astrogal chick is the posterchild for why you need to be wary of internet cults. You follow them long enough without putting some critical thinking skills and basic logic to work, and your brain turns to mashed potatoes. I think she used to cheerlead for Nancy back in the days of the "live chat" on GLP.
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She has the same attitude and mannerisms as Nancy. There was someone that was, by far, one of Nancy's nastiest believers...other than Luser...I just can't remember what her name is right now. She got caught a few months back posting in one of the threads using a different name but when it was pointed out who she really was she ran off.

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I'd like a frank discussion with this Astrogal person, if only to understand how she can possibly believe the Earth is halted in its orbit, and what motion she imagines allows constellations to appear and disappear from behind the Sun in a scenario where the Earth is halted.

I expect I shall not get my wish.
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Check out this one:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

The member writes:
"Consensus of good heads is this. The bright objects that seem to be rising when the Sun is setting are NOT the Moon (which is in the East), NOT Venus (because it would be moving right to left with the setting Sun, seen looking S from Antarctica). They are reflections on the cam windows. Note the bright lights move from left to right! The reflection bounce is making this apparent motion. If these lights were a planet, having a relationship to the Sun, they would be moving right to left, along with the Sun. Snap for 17:50 does, apparently, show Venus to the left of the Sun. Below, the Moon at Azumtu 120, and Venus as Azmuth 215."

and astrogal50's response:

"Wow. Now we know for sure why the debunkers are anxiously trying to debunk this evidence.

The Dark Twin does not officially even exist, and the Establishment most certainly does not (yet) agree that the Dark Twin is caught (and moving) in the cup with the earth and Venus. Admitting to that cup would also mean admitting the earth stopped in its orbit, and the Establishment (currently) fakes or quashes anything that shows otherwise."


.. she just don't gets it.

BTW: The Moon was there and just left the webcam to the left again:
[link to api.ning.com]

Skymap:
[link to www.imagebanana.com]

Cover-UP! Cover-UP! lol...

 Quoting: More about Tunnel-Vision 19248064


Mark Twain once said: "It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them they've been fooled."

I'd say that describes Nancy's followers to a T.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yup.
Someone else posted this one on the other thread:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

same applies.

btw: wannabe Public Enemy #1 is still fighting with her doubts and doesn't want to understand that whenever a artificial lense is involved it will produce flares.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by astrogal50:
... Noticed that those same debunkers (currently) ignore all the other photographic and video evidence of Planet X made without a filter of any kind. Why is that?

So what are they going to say when the presence of Planet X can no longer be denied? Sorry, we were wrong (while some collect their untraceable debunking payments and prepare to save their own skins)? Please don't hold your breath waiting for any mea culpas from the debunkers/doubters/deniers.


Its not about mea-culpas gal, the only that matters is the truth!

(Nope, we wont hold our breaths waiting for a mea-culpa from the moderators who just dont know what they're doing!)
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And you'll certainly never see a mea-culpa from Nancy.
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She has the same attitude and mannerisms as Nancy. There was someone that was, by far, one of Nancy's nastiest believers...other than Luser...I just can't remember what her name is right now. She got caught a few months back posting in one of the threads using a different name but when it was pointed out who she really was she ran off.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


That was Soledad. She is a dark storm cloud of doom with nothing but insults. She was the female version of Luser. Then there was burkettgirl, fondly known as bucketheadgirlm the female incarnation of FreeStore.


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