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Proper proof would be to have the Sun centered, then to the left and right of the image centered.
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What? Why would he want to do that? If he did, then everyone would see there's no "second sun"...and that would end the delusion.
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Off topic:

Nancy didn't get the azimuth/elevation of the Sun right for Varese, Italy at 5:19pm local time.


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Nancy is always getting that sort of thing wrong. She says the sun is pretty-much ALWAYS in the wrong place and gives numbers. No one knows how she comes up with azimuth numbers- she may be just making them up.
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Uh Oh. CoS mentioned this thread by NAME over on his ZT Exposed site. Expect Nancy to react, uh, poorly.

[link to docs.google.com]

Good explanation of Nancy's wobbles, there.
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Off topic:

Nancy didn't get the azimuth/elevation of the Sun right for Varese, Italy at 5:19pm local time.


 Quoting: bob_909


Nancy is always getting that sort of thing wrong. She says the sun is pretty-much ALWAYS in the wrong place and gives numbers. No one knows how she comes up with azimuth numbers- she may be just making them up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


She must be pulling them from her rather ancient copy of Skymap (which she has problems using properly).

I get 261° 23'/37° 29' using the coordinates of Varese, Italy (supposedly Alberto's location).

I don't know why she bothers to continue using Skymap - I used Stellarium and Cartes du Ciel which are both freeware and infinitely easier to use.
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Uh Oh. CoS mentioned this thread by NAME over on his ZT Exposed site. Expect Nancy to react, uh, poorly.

[link to docs.google.com]

Good explanation of Nancy's wobbles, there.
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The whole "sine wave" thing started from Youtube reactions to the ploba2 images. Then it all got confused with the SDO ones which she also says are "wrong".
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Off topic:

Nancy didn't get the azimuth/elevation of the Sun right for Varese, Italy at 5:19pm local time.


 Quoting: bob_909


Nancy is always getting that sort of thing wrong. She says the sun is pretty-much ALWAYS in the wrong place and gives numbers. No one knows how she comes up with azimuth numbers- she may be just making them up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


She must be pulling them from her rather ancient copy of Skymap (which she has problems using properly).

I get 261° 23'/37° 29' using the coordinates of Varese, Italy (supposedly Alberto's location).

I don't know why she bothers to continue using Skymap - I used Stellarium and Cartes du Ciel which are both freeware and infinitely easier to use.
 Quoting: bob_909


I once posted that I was using REDSHIFT to check something and she claimed that it was "expensive software", proving that I was a paid professional. I got it at a swap meet for $10, as I recall.

Nancy says whatever she has to say to prove herself "right".
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Uh Oh. CoS mentioned this thread by NAME over on his ZT Exposed site. Expect Nancy to react, uh, poorly.

[link to docs.google.com]

Good explanation of Nancy's wobbles, there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


From that page: "Earthquakes seem to be on the increase and occuring in unusual places,
Dormant-volcanoes are awakening and the public media is conspiciously silent about these changes,"

These defectors still don't seem to understand that Nancy has been cherry-picking and skewing the EQ stats from the very beginning. Nancy has simply made up her story from whole cloth and filled out the details, over the years, with manipulations of the facts and details.
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I once posted that I was using REDSHIFT to check something and she claimed that it was "expensive software", proving that I was a paid professional. I got it at a swap meet for $10, as I recall.

Nancy says whatever she has to say to prove herself "right".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


She also says stuff like that in a desperate attempt to "discredit" whoever disagrees with her.
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From that page: "Earthquakes seem to be on the increase and occuring in unusual places,
Dormant-volcanoes are awakening and the public media is conspiciously silent about these changes,"

These defectors still don't seem to understand that Nancy has been cherry-picking and skewing the EQ stats from the very beginning. Nancy has simply made up her story from whole cloth and filled out the details, over the years, with manipulations of the facts and details.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


And yet, CA hasn't had a major quake since Northridge and volcanoes such as Mt Saint Helens, Mt Hood and Mt Rainer remain rather quiet.
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Off topic:

Nancy didn't get the azimuth/elevation of the Sun right for Varese, Italy at 5:19pm local time.


 Quoting: bob_909


Nancy is always getting that sort of thing wrong. She says the sun is pretty-much ALWAYS in the wrong place and gives numbers. No one knows how she comes up with azimuth numbers- she may be just making them up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


She must be pulling them from her rather ancient copy of Skymap (which she has problems using properly).

I get 261° 23'/37° 29' using the coordinates of Varese, Italy (supposedly Alberto's location).

I don't know why she bothers to continue using Skymap - I used Stellarium and Cartes du Ciel which are both freeware and infinitely easier to use.
 Quoting: bob_909


I once posted that I was using REDSHIFT to check something and she claimed that it was "expensive software", proving that I was a paid professional. I got it at a swap meet for $10, as I recall.

Nancy says whatever she has to say to prove herself "right".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Funny - you didn't actually explicitly deny being a "paid professional".

... not saying you are ...
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I haven't `explicitly' denied being the prime minister of oz- but then I aren't am I

haven't `explicitly' denied being the us president either..

nor have I `explicitly' denied being the first man on the moon...


by melfys weird `logic'- that makes me the prime minister of oz, the president of the usa and Neil Armstrong to boot.....

no wonder his minds so screwed up- unless someone denies they are someone or something, then they automatically are that person or thing....

so the 2 billion chinese that have never denied being the president of the us- thus are


thus the usa has in excess of 2 billion chinese born presidents.....

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melfy takes it up the arse
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Nancy is always getting that sort of thing wrong. She says the sun is pretty-much ALWAYS in the wrong place and gives numbers. No one knows how she comes up with azimuth numbers- she may be just making them up.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


She must be pulling them from her rather ancient copy of Skymap (which she has problems using properly).

I get 261° 23'/37° 29' using the coordinates of Varese, Italy (supposedly Alberto's location).

I don't know why she bothers to continue using Skymap - I used Stellarium and Cartes du Ciel which are both freeware and infinitely easier to use.
 Quoting: bob_909


I once posted that I was using REDSHIFT to check something and she claimed that it was "expensive software", proving that I was a paid professional. I got it at a swap meet for $10, as I recall.

Nancy says whatever she has to say to prove herself "right".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Funny - you didn't actually explicitly deny being a "paid professional".

... not saying you are ...
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Funny, you glossed over the point, which was that Nancy lied, once again, to support her story.
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Dumb, dumber, Poleshit-Nancy:

"Planet X Moons Visible in Light from Venus!"

Thread: Another fail of Poleshit-Nancy - Planet X Moons Visible in Light from Venus!



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I might as well say it now:

Clif FAILS again!
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this citation is right from pag 872.
Nothing changed since then.
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It won't be there for long:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by Tony Hunter 36 minutes ago
My previous posts have been removed without reason, other than they are not in agreement with what people think this is. I am sorry that open communication is not welcomed here. I have requested that my affiliation with this site be terminated. Much love and peace to you all.

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Right there on Nancy's own page it has a skymap image showing the stars she is claiming are her planet X. Sigh...
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On that same page: "Wiki has a photo of what you can see, stars wise, around Venus at sunrise. Note that numerous stars are visible, not just a few orbs close to Venus. Note they are not placed where the "moons" of Planet X illuminated near Venus in the video are placed. Different positions! These are not stars, in the video snap!"

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Who cannot understand that a WIKI image of the stars around Venus on some random, past date would not be the same as what is seen now?? The mind boggles at the sheer stupidity Nancy foists upon her followers... and they BUY it!
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Yep. That ning post I quoted is now gone.
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Dumb, dumber, Poleshit-Nancy:

"Planet X Moons Visible in Light from Venus!"

Thread: Another fail of Poleshit-Nancy - Planet X Moons Visible in Light from Venus!
 Quoting: Hydra



It's getting even better:
Thread: Another fail of Poleshit-Nancy - Planet X Moons Visible in Light from Venus!



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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It won't be there for long:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by Tony Hunter 36 minutes ago
My previous posts have been removed without reason, other than they are not in agreement with what people think this is. I am sorry that open communication is not welcomed here. I have requested that my affiliation with this site be terminated. Much love and peace to you all.

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Right there on Nancy's own page it has a skymap image showing the stars she is claiming are her planet X. Sigh...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I could save it on HDD - if someone is interested :-))


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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It won't be there for long:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by Tony Hunter 36 minutes ago
My previous posts have been removed without reason, other than they are not in agreement with what people think this is. I am sorry that open communication is not welcomed here. I have requested that my affiliation with this site be terminated. Much love and peace to you all.

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Right there on Nancy's own page it has a skymap image showing the stars she is claiming are her planet X. Sigh...
 Quoting: Menow 1394150


I could save it on HDD - if someone is interested :-))


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 Quoting: Hydra


No need... The thing is, it will stay right there. I've seen it happen like this before. She doesn't get that it proves her wrong, and apparently neither will any of her flock. She has posted images from her Skymap program before that show how the Moon quite normally appears to be "tilted" from our perspective on a rotating Earth, but since no one is allowed to call attention to that fact on the ning, it remains a moot point. After all, only NANCY is allowed to "explain" what things mean. She could show an image of a kite and say it was Planet X and it would not be questioned. Oh wait... she did exactly that, one time! Heh.

Nancy has always used the "Mountain of Innuendo" method of proof. Any of the details, if examined, are wrong, but that doesn't matter because no one is allowed to do that and the vast steaming pile of BS SEEMS like it can't ALL be wrong.... but it is!
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Someone posted a screenshot from todays video, clearly showing the movement of the Taurus constellation in relation to Venus.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 23 minutes ago

Sorry for the wild ride folks! But we are expecting signs in the skies. This was, you note, NancyTalk, not ZetaTalk. The initial photos did not show stars in the background, and until videos came in same time frame showing more stars, the patterns did not line up. Does Nancy stumble? Heck yes, I'm only HUMAN after all. And sometimes the Zetas do not alert me to this as it is done on purpose to mislead or disarm the establishment.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Someone posted a screenshot from todays video, clearly showing the movement of the Taurus constellation in relation to Venus.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 23 minutes ago

Sorry for the wild ride folks! But we are expecting signs in the skies. This was, you note, NancyTalk, not ZetaTalk. The initial photos did not show stars in the background, and until videos came in same time frame showing more stars, the patterns did not line up. Does Nancy stumble? Heck yes, I'm only HUMAN after all. And sometimes the Zetas do not alert me to this as it is done on purpose to mislead or disarm the establishment.


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 Quoting: Hydra


Haha, I wonder, just how much cognitive dissonance does this produce in her followers who just minutes ago were still defending this nonsense on youtube and god-knows where else? Does it ever shock them to realize the debunkers were right, even according to Nancy's admission? Does it even enter their mind as a possibility that she could be dead wrong about everything and maybe they should research for themselves to see if she is wrong? And do they ever look back at the people who were banned for daring to point out her mistakes and think, those people were right all along? I'm sure they'll resolve the conflict in their minds by just chalking it up to being part of the "plan" to "mislead the establishment" just like she said, so of course the debunkers were right, "the zetas" meant to do that!

To people that stupid, it doesn't even matter if she's right or wrong, because even if she's wrong, she's "supposed" to be wrong and they're supposed to play right along.
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Nancy only has 92 Twitter followers?

Hell, my coffee machine has 8000+.

I'll bet Melfy could pick up more than 92, not even counting his sock puppets (Volar, Bridget, etc.).
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The Returner returns! Welcome back man!
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Thanks! I missed you guys. Good to see you still fighting the good fight!
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Someone posted a screenshot from todays video, clearly showing the movement of the Taurus constellation in relation to Venus.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 23 minutes ago

Sorry for the wild ride folks! But we are expecting signs in the skies. This was, you note, NancyTalk, not ZetaTalk. The initial photos did not show stars in the background, and until videos came in same time frame showing more stars, the patterns did not line up. Does Nancy stumble? Heck yes, I'm only HUMAN after all. And sometimes the Zetas do not alert me to this as it is done on purpose to mislead or disarm the establishment.


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 Quoting: Hydra


Or mislead or disarm your few followers.
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Someone posted a screenshot from todays video, clearly showing the movement of the Taurus constellation in relation to Venus.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 23 minutes ago

Sorry for the wild ride folks! But we are expecting signs in the skies. This was, you note, NancyTalk, not ZetaTalk. The initial photos did not show stars in the background, and until videos came in same time frame showing more stars, the patterns did not line up. Does Nancy stumble? Heck yes, I'm only HUMAN after all. And sometimes the Zetas do not alert me to this as it is done on purpose to mislead or disarm the establishment.


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 Quoting: Hydra


Funny how that one poster had his posts deleted for saying probably the same thing.
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I wonder if this post will remain?


[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"Comment by Sepp Forcher 26 minutes ago
Nancy means that that there are no Mondswirls?

I can very well understand, even if you're wrong Nancy, you're only human. Why could they not discuss the letter from Tony Hunter and enlighten? But just delete his post and now he has left the Ning that is a shame, right?
It says it in the title: "If they decide" ....

and when they do talk was only Nancy, why should the user not then bring their "conservative" objection?

I'm really a fan of Zeta Talk, but allow no discussion can not be erfülltend for this forum, right?
I'm sure my post, and my account will be canceled pursuant to this post ^ ^"
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Someone posted a screenshot from todays video, clearly showing the movement of the Taurus constellation in relation to Venus.

Comment by Nancy Lieder 23 minutes ago

Sorry for the wild ride folks! But we are expecting signs in the skies. This was, you note, NancyTalk, not ZetaTalk. The initial photos did not show stars in the background, and until videos came in same time frame showing more stars, the patterns did not line up. Does Nancy stumble? Heck yes, I'm only HUMAN after all. And sometimes the Zetas do not alert me to this as it is done on purpose to mislead or disarm the establishment.


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 Quoting: Hydra


Yes, but if the official ZETATALK is wrong, she just changes it, like she did the other day on the Neumayer Station thing.


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