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_Billy Madison_

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Ah, the standard answer found in Chapter 2 of the ZetaTalk SOP...which I've been hearing for nearly 10 years now. It's pretty much the same thing as "soon"...which is a measurement of time between now and never.

I have absolutely no idea why i post in this thread in all honesty
 Quoting: _Billy MADison_

My guess is because Nancy ordered you to. Do you share a cubicle with ZetaMax? He's been lonely since User # 78/68 was laid off a few years ago.

as the replies are so completely predictable and my words mean nothing considering nearly every one participating in this thread is naive as to whats going on around them.
 Quoting: _Billy MADison_

Just like you're naive to the fact that "Planet X" doesn't exist and is NOT hanging out near the sun? That kind of naive?

I'm sure it wont be long until you all receive a very rude awakening, but then it will be too late. This is like talking to a wall, except i could learn more from talking to the wall.
 Quoting: _Billy MADison_

Yeah, been hearing that for nearly 10 years and I was supposed to die in 2003 during Nancy's first big FAIL. Hmmm, I'm still here and "Planet X" is still nowhere to be seen.

Im outta here for a while, I'm allergic to skeptics bull shit.
 Quoting: _Billy MADison_

And yet you listen to Nancy LIEDer...it's amazing you haven't died from anaphylactic shock. After all, bull shit is bull shit...regardless of the source.
 Quoting: _Billy MADison_:MV84MTQ3MzlfMzI1MTczMTNfRTUxRkJFNzE=


Weeelllll.....

First things first, it WASN'T THROUGH ZETA TALK THAT I LEARN'T OF THE POLESHIFT. It was through authors such as Edgar Cayce and Mary Summer Rain, this belief was solidified by own personal experience with second sun sightings and 8000 aftershocks since the start of 2012. The fact that you address Nancy and the ning relentlessly goes to show what a complete fool you are. I hope you wake up and smell the coffee brother, we are all in this together after all

STO vs STS is also not only from zetatalk, see the Ra material, the Law of One.

You guys should check out the troubled times website and check your safe locations out. CHUR
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If I am in anything with you I really need to get my shots updated. No telling what sort of cooties you are carrying, skippy.
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If I am in anything with you I really need to get my shots updated. No telling what sort of cooties you are carrying, skippy.
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Well you're on the earth with me. In the solar system with me, in the galaxy with me, in the universe with me. U better get your shots asap son or your toast.
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If I am in anything with you I really need to get my shots updated. No telling what sort of cooties you are carrying, skippy.
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Well you're on the earth with me. In the solar system with me, in the galaxy with me, in the universe with me. U better get your shots asap son or your toast.
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_


So long as I maintain distance from your unpleasant personality and pathological gullibility I will be safe. You, on the other hand, are fatally infested and infested.
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If I am in anything with you I really need to get my shots updated. No telling what sort of cooties you are carrying, skippy.
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Well you're on the earth with me. In the solar system with me, in the galaxy with me, in the universe with me. U better get your shots asap son or your toast.
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_


So long as I maintain distance from your unpleasant personality and pathological gullibility I will be safe. You, on the other hand, are fatally infested and infested.
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>> You, on the other hand, are fatally infested and infested. laugh

???????

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Oops. Sorry for the double posting.. tounge
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So, Tunnel-vision... do you now see why people like "Billy" get the reaction he does? Notice the nastiness and venom coming from him, along with the absurd claims and they way he ignores all factual input?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I do bud. However I think we should stand over this as we're able understand where his reactions are coming from...

Billy is obviously very emotional these days and I suspect with every insult his mental-blockage will become even worse because he percieves it as something personal.

@Billy... I know where you're coming from, but try to see matters from "the debunkers" perspective.

The "debunkers" are not as different from you as you may imagine.
You cannot expect them to be "anxious" about something without any reasonable basis.
In fact this is how it works: Someone scared you off and offered you a (bait) how to survive these events.

You're stuck in a spiral of fear..
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These Zetatalk-followers are all a little bit luncatic or crazy. They live in their own world and all their hoaxes only happen in their head cinema.

Besides that it is easy to determine: no nibiru is no event. So they can wait another ten years or 20 years and everything will stay their noshow-show. I think these people must be very bored or desperated to listen to the lies of Nancy Lieder. Even their latest ufo was a big prank again.

They can wait as long as they want and all they will see are only failed predictions. They have a right on that. Besides that everything should happen - according to crazy Nancy - well before 2012. The only thing that really always changes are the dates of Nancy`s hoax predictions.bsflag
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this belief was solidified by own personal experience with second sun sightings and 8000 aftershocks since the start of 2012.
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_


Where do you think the ideas of a "second sun" originated? That's right- Nancy Lieder. By the way, there is no new object hovering near the sun for the last decade.
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Oops. Sorry for the double posting.. tounge
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So, Tunnel-vision... do you now see why people like "Billy" get the reaction he does? Notice the nastiness and venom coming from him, along with the absurd claims and they way he ignores all factual input?
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


I do bud. However I think we should stand over this as we're able understand where his reactions are coming from...

Billy is obviously very emotional these days and I suspect with every insult his mental-blockage will become even worse because he percieves it as something personal.

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So then, you must realize that the idea of the debunkers doing nothing but insulting people for no reason is false.

I think it's fairly obvious where his reactions are coming from. They are coming from a place of insecurity, paranoia and , IMO, narcissism. The last is the key to understanding how Nancy's story sucks people in. It is the "spiritual trap" I spoke of before. This whole "STO" thing is appealing to people who actually think they are BETTER than others. It appeals to those who feel they are the "GOOD" people- as opposed to all the "BAD" people out there who will be eliminated during the pole shift. Think about it.
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These Zetatalk-followers are all a little bit luncatic or crazy. They live in their own world and all their hoaxes only happen in their head cinema.

Besides that it is easy to determine: no nibiru is no event. So they can wait another ten years or 20 years and everything will stay their noshow-show. I think these people must be very bored or desperated to listen to the lies of Nancy Lieder. Even their latest ufo was a big prank again.

They can wait as long as they want and all they will see are only failed predictions. They have a right on that. Besides that everything should happen - according to crazy Nancy - well before 2012. The only thing that really always changes are the dates of Nancy`s hoax predictions.bsflag
 Quoting: Truther 20956550


Yup... Nancy noticed that people are disappointed and accordingly placed her usual "hope-baits" to keep the belief alive.

"Don't worry, BIG STUFF is around the corner...soon"

This time she called that there might be some official announcement "soon" which is not going to happen anywhere, though astrogal50 clings to it, hoping there might be light at the end of the tunnel.

BTW: Do you remember her alleged "Council of Worlds"-plans who allegedly announced war on the Cover-Up?

A couple of "Punches / Events" were supposed to happen...
She called the Magnetosphere-Anomaly punch #1 though nothing big happened as yet that she could ascribe to the other "COWs" events.

LOL..it seems like these darn ET's just dont want to give false prophets the stage...

(I guess she totally forgot about it, so be prepared for some possible announcements in that direction soon.)

Also, to give you some insider-informations:
She told the Moderators that these events should already have happened some months ago... though of course nothing happened because Nancy was lacking big headlines that she could ascribe to the "COWs Plans".. - I might have some inside ZT re this from the admin-Ning-BackUp on occasion.

Also the Moderators are wildy speculating on "bare hunches" & even suspending people if they have a "hunch that they might mean trouble" to repeat this statement.
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This time she called that there might be some official announcement "soon" which is not going to happen anywhere, though astrogal50 clings to it, hoping there might be light at the end of the tunnel.
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Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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So then, you must realize that the idea of the debunkers doing nothing but insulting people for no reason is false.
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Never claimed that the debunkers are only insulting people..
I said that insulting people is counter-productive and not needed in my mind.
Correct me (with some quotes by myself) if Im wrong...

I think it's fairly obvious where his reactions are coming from. They are coming from a place of insecurity, paranoia and , IMO, narcissism.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

Seconded.

The last is the key to understanding how Nancy's story sucks people in. It is the "spiritual trap" I spoke of before. This whole "STO" thing is appealing to people who actually think they are BETTER than others. It appeals to those who feel they are the "GOOD" people- as opposed to all the "BAD" people out there who will be eliminated during the pole shift. Think about it.
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Im getting your drift now.

I wouldn't say though that these people think they are better than others (it would be against the "true STO philosophy" in my mind, which would be that no-one is "better than others" but that there are characteristics that are just contrary to each other), at least I never thought Im better than others..

However you're totally right that Nancy uses this "caring aspect" to manipulate naive-people for her cause (like it occured with me).

In my mind even Nancy has a right to exist and do what she's doing, as after all we're all one. Good and bad and obviously we learn from each other.
hf

Maybe it is that why you feel im one of the "its all good-guys"? hehe
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So then, you must realize that the idea of the debunkers doing nothing but insulting people for no reason is false.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Never claimed that the debunkers are only insulting people..
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-vision 20973860


I didn't say it was YOUR specific claim, but you asked why
Billy was being "treated" badly. It has long been the bunker claim that the DEbunkers only offer insults and nothing more. THAT claim is certainly not true, and your questioning the way Billy was "treated" is along the same lines. He is spewing nonsense- he is being told he is spewing nonsense. The fact that he might be "insulted" during the process is actually of no real consequence.

I said that insulting people is counter-productive and not needed in my mind.
Correct me (with some quotes by myself) if Im wrong...
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Moot point. The FACTS are what is important- not social graces.

I think it's fairly obvious where his reactions are coming from. They are coming from a place of insecurity, paranoia and , IMO, narcissism.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200

Seconded.

The last is the key to understanding how Nancy's story sucks people in. It is the "spiritual trap" I spoke of before. This whole "STO" thing is appealing to people who actually think they are BETTER than others. It appeals to those who feel they are the "GOOD" people- as opposed to all the "BAD" people out there who will be eliminated during the pole shift. Think about it.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Im getting your drift now.

I wouldn't say though that these people think they are better than others (it would be against the "true STO philosophy" in my mind, which would be that no-one is "better than others" but that there are characteristics that are just contrary to each other), at least I never thought Im better than others..
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Yes, but that's why it's a spiritual trap. It doesn't SEEM to be what it truly is. How many times have you seen people put down as being "STS"? Also- the idea of having "inside information" which others are not privy to is important.

However you're totally right that Nancy uses this "caring aspect" to manipulate naive-people for her cause (like it occured with me).

In my mind even Nancy has a right to exist and do what she's doing, as after all we're all one. Good and bad and obviously we learn from each other.
hf

Maybe it is that why you feel im one of the "its all good-guys"? hehe
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Certainly Nancy has that "right". On the other hand, it is actually exactly the sort of behaviour(secretly) which could be defined as "STS", since she is constantly spreading falsehoods. It's all very convoluted and seductive, at the same time. That's why it has worked on so many people who like to think they are "special".
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I really hope you enjoy the earthquakes and tsunamis, followed my the tail of the 12th planet lashing earth with millions of 70 pound (average) iron boulder.


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 Quoting: _Billy Madison_


So how long will you cower before you realize that PX isn't coming? Months? Years? Decades?
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If we can sit here and converse in a decade, i will be shocked. I'll leave it at that.
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_


Ah. So you can hold onto this particular delusion for an entire extra decade. Some have been holding on since, well, '95. And even before.

What evidence, if any, could convince you that a pole shift isn't going to happen? Any you could imagine?
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And Billy ignores my question again. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.
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YO BILLY You do realize you are following someone that thinks they're special because they found an unwrapped StarBurst candy RIGHT?
Before that she thought she was special because the magazines in the living room were out of place.

Hey Billy boy I have about 5 acres on the side of a cliff for sale in CO interested?
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YO BILLY You do realize you are following someone that thinks they're special because they found an unwrapped StarBurst candy RIGHT?
Before that she thought she was special because the magazines in the living room were out of place.

Hey Billy boy I have about 5 acres on the side of a cliff for sale in CO interested?
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Please stop shilling. Thank you.

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YO BILLY You do realize you are following someone that thinks they're special because they found an unwrapped StarBurst candy RIGHT?
Before that she thought she was special because the magazines in the living room were out of place.

Hey Billy boy I have about 5 acres on the side of a cliff for sale in CO interested?
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Please stop shilling. Thank you.

:noshill:
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Follow your own advice. Thank you.
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Flareberto's latest posting:

Title: double filter causes excessive brightness
(Corrected: double filter causes excessive lenseflares)
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

hehe... how about a triple-filter for even more "moonswirls"?

Hey Nancy, go tell him!

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Flareberto's latest posting:

Title: double filter causes excessive brightness
(Corrected: double filter causes excessive lenseflares)
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

hehe... how about a triple-filter for even more "moonswirls"?

Hey Nancy, go tell him!

cruise
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Has a SINGLE Ningie done a long exposure photo of the night sky to demonstrate the supposed figure eight wobble?
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I'd like to give an example of what I say about Nancy having "dragged" people into a skewed perspective of reality- to her side of the discussion. The term "moon swirl" is a great example of something which the ningers believe is a valid concept. It is not. There is no possible way that a planets moons can "swirl" behind or around the planet. It made much more sense when Nancy's planet was said to be careening at high speed toward and/or through the solar system. Nancy never abandoned the "moon swirl" idea when she had to declare that her planet had stopped near the sun. Her minions don't seem to realize just how absurd it is to claim/believe that the PX moons continue to "swirl" behind a virtually stationary planet.
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Flareberto's latest posting:

Title: double filter causes excessive brightness
(Corrected: double filter causes excessive lenseflares)
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

hehe... how about a triple-filter for even more "moonswirls"?

Hey Nancy, go tell him!

cruise
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Has a SINGLE Ningie done a long exposure photo of the night sky to demonstrate the supposed figure eight wobble?
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No. Not even after Hap and others suggested it, fairly constantly, for several years.
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Flareberto's latest posting:

Title: double filter causes excessive brightness
(Corrected: double filter causes excessive lenseflares)
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

hehe... how about a triple-filter for even more "moonswirls"?

Hey Nancy, go tell him!

cruise
 Quoting: More about Tunnel-vision 21010943


Has a SINGLE Ningie done a long exposure photo of the night sky to demonstrate the supposed figure eight wobble?
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No. Not even after Hap and others suggested it, fairly constantly, for several years.
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Flareberto!!!!
LMAO!!!!
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You know what, i like you guys.

You're funny and interesting. Even the former moderator. What strikes me as funny is he must have been prepared to lie to 1000's of people before leaving the ning, so what makes you think hes any different now.

Russia admitted to Nibiru, Putin told the citizens to have a years food and water. Y'all are a great bunch of inspiring people. Your dedication and hard work on the forum inspires me to be a better person!!!

Stand firm in your faith guys, and debunk away. That's what makes you lot happy then so be it!! I can't think of a better way for you all to spend your time..... (jokes)
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Russia admitted to Nibiru,
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_

Why did you choose to lie?
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You know what, i like you guys.

You're funny and interesting. Even the former moderator. What strikes me as funny is he must have been prepared to lie to 1000's of people before leaving the ning, so what makes you think hes any different now.

Russia admitted to Nibiru, Putin told the citizens to have a years food and water. Y'all are a great bunch of inspiring people. Your dedication and hard work on the forum inspires me to be a better person!!!

Stand firm in your faith guys, and debunk away. That's what makes you lot happy then so be it!! I can't think of a better way for you all to spend your time..... (jokes)
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_


Why do you continue to ignore my simple question?

What evidence, if any, could convince you that a pole shift isn't going to happen? Any you could imagine?
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Flareberto is the born comedian. Flareberto, the greatest astronomer of the world, the man who invented the legendary floppy-disc-method. And he is always finding new planets and new planets close to the sun, all of them in the size of jupiter or even far bigger.

This guy is the running gag with his lenseflare-show. He must be a fake or a really outstanding intelligent person.

Flareberto the king of lense flares in action. Now he even uses two layers of floppy-discs to find even more planets. Additionally he could make some pics behind a glass window with his two floppy-discs and we will soon have even more big planets around the sun (at least in his flareberto-head)
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And their comments are even more amusing.

"Beautiful, and another brilliant idea, Alberto!"(Fea)

Yes, that is really a brilliant idea. It is more than incredible.

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Russia admitted to Nibiru,
 Quoting: _Billy Madison_

Why did you choose to lie?
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I like u brother. KIA KAHA
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Flareberto's latest posting:

Title: double filter causes excessive brightness
(Corrected: double filter causes excessive lenseflares)
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

hehe... how about a triple-filter for even more "moonswirls"?

Hey Nancy, go tell him!

cruise
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Has a SINGLE Ningie done a long exposure photo of the night sky to demonstrate the supposed figure eight wobble?
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Not a one of them has a decent enough camera to do so.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Russia admitted to Nibiru,
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Wishful thinking and finding "evidence" to support a pre-conceived notion = bad science. Russia did no such thing.


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