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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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I'm not an astronomer (amateur or not) but I know from discussions that many have similar problems- back in the 60's- 80's widespread highpowered lighting wasn't around- many smaller towns used to turn off their (low powered by modern standards) lighting after a certain time as well

I know from lurking on many boards that light pollution is a major issue for many now, where in the past they could skywatch every night from their own backyards, now it involves travelling to an area free from light pollution, so it seems that currently less actual hours are spent actually skywatching than in the past- making it less likely that a `rogue event' would be captured now than it would have been back then
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My assertion would be - not many.

Most of these folks would be looking for new comets, and supernova, and dreaming of "stardom" - literally. Tracking near earth objects that are mostly just big rocks, is not going to impress most of the ladies in attendance.

They'll be over at Hap's table - looking at all his pretty nebula photos.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


and as usual- your `assertion' would be wrong...


much like `everything' you have ever posted


`They'll be over at Hap's table - looking at all his pretty nebula photos.'

Yes...yes they will be

They `might' be at melfys table looking at all his pretty planet x photos instead...

Whats that? he isnt there??

but certainly there will be `someone' with a table of planet x photos- `just to impress the ladies'.....

Whats that? they aren't there??


`Most of these folks would be looking for new comets, and supernova, and dreaming of "stardom" - literally.'
melfy quote

so IF they could scrap together a camera and an old floppy disc and get a photo- and had actual photos (you know- kinda like actual photos of real planets)

they could GET real stardom...

hmm...

doh

melfy fails AGAIN....

these people would indeed be the first to support you- IF there was anything in your claims that was true....


what was the name of the comet that was going to destroy the earth in deep impact???

Wolf-Biederman

Any `amateur' astronomer would just love to be the discoverer of ANY unknown object- near or far

Some may be honoured so

I really doubt that anything will ever- EVER EVER EVER- be named after you melfy....

IF' you go there and get a table- who knows- you might even get famous....

just not in the way you want to...
Dr. Astro
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I can guarantee you,
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

No, you can't. How many star parties have you attended?
Look "kid" (I'm probably two decades your senior), I've been around more people, events, and circumstances than I care to recall.
 Quoting: max

Irrelevant. How many star parties have you attended? You're too gutless to do it.
There's nothing "special" about a star club.
 Quoting: max

How would you know? You've never been. You don't know jack about amateur astronomy
I KNOW a "star club" is no different.
 Quoting: Max

No you don't, you've never been.
I've seen these dynamics EVERYWHERE.
 Quoting: max

I don't care what other groups you've been in, you've never come to a star party, you do not get to make assumptions and sweeping generalizations. It's a massive logical fallacy and an automatic fail, which is what you're good at.
On top of all that, there's certainly more than a couple "undercover" types on the DOD/CIA/FBI/NASA payroll as well - wandering around, and ready to POUNCE on any conversation that sounds like it's getting too far "out there".
 Quoting: max

And you're paranoid at that. You need serious mental help.
I'm not saying there isn't "good astronomy" going on at these events - just not as "much" as you're implying,
 Quoting: max

Again, until you actually show your face at chiefland, you do not get to make that claim. You have absolutely no evidence to support your claim. It does not matter what other social groups do or don't do.
and certainly not enough to make the certainty that something like "the Black Knight Satellite" would be discovered and consistently tracked - a foregone conclusion.
 Quoting: max

And once again you prove how utterly clueless you are about amateur satellite tracking. We track everything, classified or not, and with knowledge of orbital mechanics (also beyond you) we identify each.
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It would be funny just to book a table there in his name-

He could attend and provide all his evidence of planet x or not as he pleases

(either way it would be an empty table)




lol


actually just as a laugh-I am willing to pay for all his travel expenses to and from the next one and any expenses in getting a stall,table or whatever

if he turns up and presents all his evidence of planet x


even if its an empty table (ie he cant provide any evidence of it at all)

I will still pay his travel to and from it
(I will insist that his table- even if its empty otherwise- must have `I am Zetamax' and `Planet X evidence' and the address of this thread written on it in legible and visible from 6 feet away in writing on it, and he must be at the table for at least 75% of the time that the public is allowed into the area around that table)

He has to stand by his evidence and prove it happened...

photos or it isnt real ;-)

(he doesn't have to actually show his face- I will allow him that much dignity, but he will have to show his attendance..)


I also insist he actually talks to people there- and listens to them as well


IF after all that- he still insists that all of `them' are deluded, paid off or are paid `debunkers'- I will buy him a steak dinner(or its equivalent if steak isnt his thing)

hey what a deal- even if he doesnt believe in planet x- he still gets to attend a real live bunch of amateur astronomers and maybe even learn something to boot


what a deal...
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Here we are again:

Melfy Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A Nibtards paradise!!

Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 1068)

<sarcasm> clappa </sarcasm>



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Here we are again:

Melfy Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A Nibtards paradise!!

Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 1068)

<sarcasm> clappa </sarcasm>



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 Quoting: Hydra


well if you are debunking nancy LIEder and planet x- step right up...

if you are a bunker- step right up!!!

we would love to see some actual real evidence of its existence...

so far not one has even flimsy `evidence' of it at all
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Here we are again:

Melfy Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A Nibtards paradise!!

Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 1068)

<sarcasm> clappa </sarcasm>



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 Quoting: Hydra


interesting to search your user number....
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interesting to search your user number....
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Your conclusion?


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Well, Melfy is a Lieder-Troll,

so it has to be aware of amateur astronomers, becauseueveryone of them could see Nibiru. To be honest, even every troll could see it naked eye.


And if Nimbiru would be close to the sun, everybody could see him or her with the naked eye: since more than a decade. And even with very simple equipment....

In Nancy Lieder`s world fools are running around with old floppy-discs and try to get noamateur-astronomers: stupid as they are.

So, Melfy, the Lieder-Troll has to mention somethting abut that.

Melfy and Flareberto are the same category....
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interesting to search your user number....
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058


Your conclusion?


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a quick search shows up that you have a belief in some `unusual' things, but also have a fairly solid standing in the real world...

I would be surprised if you actually believed anything melfy or his like supported

of course thats only stuff that showed up under your new number
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interesting to search your user number....
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058


Your conclusion?


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a quick search shows up that you have a belief in some `unusual' things, ...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

What kind of "unusual" things - pink sun or so?
Didn't know, that I have to use the <irony> tags for the skippies too.

Just "Search User Name" and you'll know.

dasbier


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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interesting to search your user number....
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058


Your conclusion?


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a quick search shows up that you have a belief in some `unusual' things, ...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

What kind of "unusual" things - pink sun or so?
Didn't know, that I have to use the <irony> tags for the skippies too.

Just "Search User Name" and you'll know.

dasbier


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 Quoting: Hydra


well all I have is what you post...

I just searched your user number rather than name

registered users have access to

`Just "Search User Name" and you'll know.'

however longtime posters would know why I dont have a `registered' name

jamie wouldnt approve of `them', but then this thread isnt as it was...

if you dont know what I am talking about- well hello and welcome to glp....
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a quick search shows up that you have a belief in some `unusual' things, ...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

What kind of "unusual" things - pink sun or so?
Didn't know, that I have to use the <irony> tags for the skippies too.

Just "Search User Name" and you'll know.
 Quoting: Hydra


well all I have is what you post...

I just searched your user number rather than name

registered users have access to

`Just "Search User Name" and you'll know.'

however longtime posters would know why I dont have a `registered' name

jamie wouldnt approve of `them', but then this thread isnt as it was...

if you dont know what I am talking about- well hello and welcome to glp....

 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

OK, apperently some insider info I don't know - registered just some month ago.

But I can assure you, that I don't "belief in some unusual things".


I know, that especially the Northern German humor is sometimes a little strange - so don't take all I post to serious.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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OK, apperently some insider info I don't know - registered just some month ago.

But I can assure you, that I don't "belief in some unusual things".


I know, that especially the Northern German humor is sometimes a little strange - so don't take all I post to serious.


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sorry- but I have been posting here on and off since 2004, and in this thread about oh about 700 pages ago...


;-)

so I am not surprised you dont know what I am talking about...

you have only several hundred pages of history and about 4 years of posting to catch up on....


aussie humour can be a little strange to others too
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OK, apperently some insider info I don't know - registered just some month ago.

But I can assure you, that I don't "belief in some unusual things".


I know, that especially the Northern German humor is sometimes a little strange - so don't take all I post to serious.


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sorry- but I have been posting here on and off since 2004, and in this thread about oh about 700 pages ago...


;-)

so I am not surprised you dont know what I am talking about...

you have only several hundred pages of history and about 4 years of posting to catch up on....


aussie humour can be a little strange to others too
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I will do - promised. :-))

And before this thread will be renamed Hydra Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A prankster's paradise!! ...


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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OK, apperently some insider info I don't know - registered just some month ago.

But I can assure you, that I don't "belief in some unusual things".


I know, that especially the Northern German humor is sometimes a little strange - so don't take all I post to serious.


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 Quoting: Hydra


sorry- but I have been posting here on and off since 2004, and in this thread about oh about 700 pages ago...


;-)

so I am not surprised you dont know what I am talking about...

you have only several hundred pages of history and about 4 years of posting to catch up on....


aussie humour can be a little strange to others too
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058


I will do - promised. :-))

And before this thread will be renamed Hydra Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A prankster's paradise!! ...


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actually I think that in this case- that isnt that funny so I would look around a little more before making `jokes' like that

;-)


Because you dont know the history here, I'll wont abuse you (some others may, so be prepared for that)- just a heads up (a warning so to speak)


To fill you in
Several years ago- nancy was actually a moderator here and held a weekly `chat'- and as is her usual style- anyone daring to disagree with her was banned by her from her threads and the forum by default



TLR started this thread to allow dissenting voices to be heard- and a then mod


- the big J -



(the doctor whose name must not be spoken of or else he will go postal on ya (in joke)) protected the debunkers from nancy's ban hammer


TLR has changed the thread name several times since the first post (back in 2009 from memory) but it has always been a debunkers paradise so to speak...

ANYONE (even melfy- thats zetamax btw)can post here- its been put forward (even by me at times) that he be banned, but TLR has to date put forward his position that as nancy was so ban happy here, he wouldnt ban anyone from this thread-not stooping as low as nancy as to have to ban dissenting voices




So melfy has been allowed to post his zeta and then cliff shitte- we know its all bs- we know he has always been a flood troll (look over the first few pages of this thread to see he's always been like he is)
but TLR has to date, always taken the moral high ground and refused to ban anyone- everyone can speak up here- no matter how stupid their comments- and they wont be banned...

abused maybe- but not banned...


unlike nancy....



hence the `debunkers paradise....'


free from nancy and her ban hammer at the time


(she has since left for the ning- where bannings are the norm.....)

so we repost her more inane babblings from time to time, and show up her many mistakes



A long post, but hopefully a bit educational to you Hydra
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TLR has stated melfy WILL be banned, at a time of TLR's selection and when melfy the lying troll least expects it.
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actually I think that in this case- that isnt that funny so I would look around a little more before making `jokes' like that

;-)

Because you dont know the history here, I'll wont abuse you (some others may, so be prepared for that)- just a heads up (a warning so to speak)

... snip ...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

Thanks for the info, aussie 763624.

Some things, like the Nacy mod ban history, I already learned during the last month from the posts here. Others, like "the big J" thing, are new.

Regarding a Melfy-ban I'm with TLR - banning Melfy would put this thread into the same range as the Poleshit.ning.
Nevertheless in my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.

When I first posted: Rename the thread to "Melfy Talk .." ( Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 1068) ) I was in several threads trying to debunk the Nancy BS.
None of the debunkers showed up because they all were busy with Melfy-bashing. Quite frustrating.

Since then it has changed - the debunkers are active again in the BS threads. Thus the original post isn't quite true anymore.

But as said before: In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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actually I think that in this case- that isnt that funny so I would look around a little more before making `jokes' like that

;-)

Because you dont know the history here, I'll wont abuse you (some others may, so be prepared for that)- just a heads up (a warning so to speak)

... snip ...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

Thanks for the info, aussie 763624.

Some things, like the Nacy mod ban history, I already learned during the last month from the posts here. Others, like "the big J" thing, are new.

Regarding a Melfy-ban I'm with TLR - banning Melfy would put this thread into the same range as the Poleshit.ning.
Nevertheless in my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.

When I first posted: Rename the thread to "Melfy Talk .." ( Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 1068) ) I was in several threads trying to debunk the Nancy BS.
None of the debunkers showed up because they all were busy with Melfy-bashing. Quite frustrating.

Since then it has changed - the debunkers are active again in the BS threads. Thus the original post isn't quite true anymore.

But as said before: In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.


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>> In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.


DECODED:
The TRUTH get too much attention.
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actually I think that in this case- that isnt that funny so I would look around a little more before making `jokes' like that

;-)

Because you dont know the history here, I'll wont abuse you (some others may, so be prepared for that)- just a heads up (a warning so to speak)

... snip ...
 Quoting: aussie 763624 21180058

Thanks for the info, aussie 763624.

Some things, like the Nacy mod ban history, I already learned during the last month from the posts here. Others, like "the big J" thing, are new.

Regarding a Melfy-ban I'm with TLR - banning Melfy would put this thread into the same range as the Poleshit.ning.
Nevertheless in my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.

When I first posted: Rename the thread to "Melfy Talk .." ( Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!! (Page 1068) ) I was in several threads trying to debunk the Nancy BS.
None of the debunkers showed up because they all were busy with Melfy-bashing. Quite frustrating.

Since then it has changed - the debunkers are active again in the BS threads. Thus the original post isn't quite true anymore.

But as said before: In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.


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>> In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.


DECODED:
The TRUTH get too much attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


The truth sure as hell does not come from a lying sack of shit like you! Why don't you let melfy die so you can use one of your other sockpuppets? How is Bridget? Volar still under sedation? You would not know the truth if it bit you on your no doubt ample ass.
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>> In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.

DECODED: The TRUTH get too much attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


:melfyfail:


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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DECODED:
The TRUTH get too much attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


Yes, just not from you.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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DECODED: The TRUTH get too much attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


There's truth - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality

Then there's maxie's truth - that which is false or in accordance with fabrications or fantasy
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But as said before: In my opinion Melfy gets to much attention.


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He's become a bit of a dogs chewtoy here

fun to gnaw on on so to speak

I occasionally wander out into the rest of the forum, but not that often, this is the only thread I always have open

I used to copy the thread on a regular basis when it was being attacked on a regular basis and users posts being deleted, however I stopped doing that when I moved house as my data costs have risen considerably now as I an using a 3g cellphone modem fulltime now rather than my old adsl2+ phone line- it costs me about 70 bucks a month for 7gb where it was costing me 40 bucks a month for 100gb on the adsl plan

one of the disadvantages of living in a caravan park- no phoneline....
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DECODED: The TRUTH get too much attention.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


There's truth - that which is true or in accordance with fact or reality

Then there's maxie's truth - that which is false or in accordance with fabrications or fantasy
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Earth wobble; Roiling core; "They" pull earthquakes out of the database; "Dumbed" down the Richter; "Moaning" earth; "Singing" lakes; Still at "7 of 10"; Mountain building going on in Columbia NOW; New Madrid COMING - will rip bridges; Wisconsin "booming" due to St Lawrence "ripping"; She does not let the message get "twisted"; Zetas keep her from being "shot"; She has "credibility" because she learned she was a contactee only LATER in life; Self hypnosis unlocked her contactee memories; Over a BILLION contactees today!; Moon is WAY out of place; MOON SWIRLS!; Five billion humans do NOT have SOULS; "Not every soul on earth today develops a soul";

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While there is care not to mention zetas there are some references that point to Nancy's pages, have not yet found the groups page you can get an idea from here.


[link to www.news.com.au]
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While there is care not to mention zetas there are some references that point to Nancy's pages, have not yet found the groups page you can get an idea from here.


[link to www.news.com.au]
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Hey, Astromut is back!
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Thanks! Now with a proper PhD as well.
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Congrats on the PhD
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Yea, but SHARING information was NOT. Taking sky photos in the seventies and even eighties required film that needed later development, and expensive copies to deseminate.
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What part of backwater USA didn't have photo copiers in the 80's ?
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Yea, but SHARING information was NOT. Taking sky photos in the seventies and even eighties required film that needed later development, and expensive copies to deseminate.
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


What part of backwater USA didn't have photo copiers in the 80's ?
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Yea - at five to ten cents A COPY.

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