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It's not a fairy tale, it's a fable.
Its aesop (see what I did there) is that the word of habitual liars is useless, for everybody.
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ETA: The flock's safety was the boys responsibility, he failed at this task because his word had lost credibility.
Thus is the reward of liars.

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All Planet X tards are completely delusional

How many times in internet time have they predicted the thing to bulldoze Earth.....only to backtrack at rapid paces everytime their false prophecies fail.
 Quoting: The Fraud Buster


Countless times pretty much.
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All Planet X tards are completely delusional

How many times in internet time have they predicted the thing to bulldoze Earth.....only to backtrack at rapid paces everytime their false prophecies fail.
 Quoting: The Fraud Buster


The "sheeple" seem to forget, that in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" fairy tail, that wolf DID eventually SHOW UP!!!

What say you NOW???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


But it was the BOY'S fault no one came because of his constant lying. As Halcyon says - he'd lost all credibility. IF "Planet X" comes (which is HIGHLY unlikely), Nancy will have only herself and the "Zetas" to blame for constantly crying wolf. "Here it comes....sorry, that was just a white lie to help you." "Here it comes again...2012 is too far out...LOL! We were just jerking your chains to see if you were paying attention." How many times are we supposed to believe them? How are we supposed to know which time they're telling the truth? Remember, in 2003, they said they were being precise and had no problem giving out the dates because Nancy's efforts had ruined the plans of the evil government. Besides, a "rogue planet" four times larger than Venus and a wolf are two ENTIRELY different things. It's quite easy to miss seeing a wolf in a forest. It's pretty hard to miss a huge planet heading right towards you.

What say you NOW???

I know what I say now -

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All Planet X tards are completely delusional

How many times in internet time have they predicted the thing to bulldoze Earth.....only to backtrack at rapid paces everytime their false prophecies fail.
 Quoting: The Fraud Buster


The "sheeple" seem to forget, that in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" fairy tail, that wolf DID eventually SHOW UP!!!

What say you NOW???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That you should know better.
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All Planet X tards are completely delusional

How many times in internet time have they predicted the thing to bulldoze Earth.....only to backtrack at rapid paces everytime their false prophecies fail.
 Quoting: The Fraud Buster


The "sheeple" seem to forget, that in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" fairy tail, that wolf DID eventually SHOW UP!!!

What say you NOW???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That you should know better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I do - "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is a how-to manual for anyone wanting to design a truly effective PSYOP.

Imagine, that the danger is not "wolves", but "those bent on world domination". Intelligent "wolves" - in other words. Such "wolves" would not be satisfied with allowing the course of events to play themselves out "naturally". TOO RISKY. Rather, they would engage "wolf think tanks" to figure out how they could manipulate and transform obstacles into ASSETS. The boy is initially an OBSTACLE - but later became an ASSET. Now in the fable, it happened "naturally" due to the natural inclination of the boy. BUT ... what if you could send in an agent (or team of agents) to BRIBE the boy, or perhaps, armed with a full psychological profile, figure out how to amplify the boys proclivities that serve your agenda - ideally without the boy even being aware of the manipulation! Maybe you'd send in a another "boy" who would DARE the boy to cry wolf - on multiple occasions. And because the boy had low self-esteem, and desires to be "friends" with the agent child - the boy goes along with the "encouragement".

In the end, the manipulation changes the odds of the outcome in favor of the WOLVES.

Care to dispute that?
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Astrogal50 is as delusional as Nancy...


"What are the (paid) professional and amateur debunkers going to say if President Obama announces the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system? What will those who right now, today, loudly insist that Planet X is a myth and ZetaTalk is not real do then? Answer: Some will suddenly become "experts" on Planet X, attempt to jump on the Planet X/Nibiru bandwagon, and try to grab the stage for themselves (although they have been lying and relentlessly debunking ZetaTalk for years). Others will simply state that although Planet X is real, Nancy Lieder, the Zetas, and the Pole Shift Ning are still not correct. Watch."

 Quoting: bob_909


Yup... Nancy baited her once again to keep trusting "there will be light at the end of the tunnel".

I wonder if she still believes she's the most wanted person on the planet?
Hey, Maybe she'll feel confirmed because we talk about her?

Poor gal. She's actually a quite cool gal beside the BS she bought into that totally twisted her head.

The thing that I came to understand is that THEY have to realize for THEMSELVES that Nancy is lying.

You could hold the "truth" right under their noses and they'd deny it.
Why? Because they're stuck in a psychologic trap and reality hits them too hard.

The truth is there, reproducable for anyone and yet they prefer to believe Nancy...

They are in for a big lesson for sure... I hope it won't take too long as some of them have already spend a fifth of their life for it, so yes, im looking forward to the day aswell...

And the day where Nancy will get what she deserves..

BTW Nancy, there's more in the powder-keg in case you guys are reading over here...;)

Take care guys,
(congrats for the PhD mut)
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I'm surprised Nancy and the "Zetas" haven't had anything to say about the Mars rover.
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Flareberto is at it again...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

What I find telling is that he only posts ONE photo at a time. That's definitely poor practice.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes multiple photos and culls out all but the one that shows the most flares.
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All Planet X tards are completely delusional

How many times in internet time have they predicted the thing to bulldoze Earth.....only to backtrack at rapid paces everytime their false prophecies fail.
 Quoting: The Fraud Buster


The "sheeple" seem to forget, that in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" fairy tail, that wolf DID eventually SHOW UP!!!

What say you NOW???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That you should know better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I do - "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is a how-to manual for anyone wanting to design a truly effective PSYOP.

Imagine, that the danger is not "wolves", but "those bent on world domination". Intelligent "wolves" - in other words. Such "wolves" would not be satisfied with allowing the course of events to play themselves out "naturally". TOO RISKY. Rather, they would engage "wolf think tanks" to figure out how they could manipulate and transform obstacles into ASSETS. The boy is initially an OBSTACLE - but later became an ASSET. Now in the fable, it happened "naturally" due to the natural inclination of the boy. BUT ... what if you could send in an agent (or team of agents) to BRIBE the boy, or perhaps, armed with a full psychological profile, figure out how to amplify the boys proclivities that serve your agenda - ideally without the boy even being aware of the manipulation! Maybe you'd send in a another "boy" who would DARE the boy to cry wolf - on multiple occasions. And because the boy had low self-esteem, and desires to be "friends" with the agent child - the boy goes along with the "encouragement".

In the end, the manipulation changes the odds of the outcome in favor of the WOLVES.

Care to dispute that?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


So why do you repeatedly keep helping the wolves out?
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Flareberto is at it again...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

What I find telling is that he only posts ONE photo at a time. That's definitely poor practice.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes multiple photos and culls out all but the one that shows the most flares.
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Flareberto is the star of the Ning and GeRETARD Zwaan's butt buddy!
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I'm surprised Nancy and the "Zetas" haven't had anything to say about the Mars rover.
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I suspect that the Mars rover was sent in order to spy on the HYBRID colony preparing to migrate to 4th density Earth after POLE SHIFT!

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Flareberto is at it again...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

What I find telling is that he only posts ONE photo at a time. That's definitely poor practice.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes multiple photos and culls out all but the one that shows the most flares.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7468171


The stupid is strong there:

What a beauty! The bodies are more or less dispersed as of this capture. Which means the complex is getting nearer?
 Quoting: Some Moron From the Ning

No, it means you're looking at lens flare you idiot. But go ahead and think it's "Planet X" while the rest of you nod our heads in astonishment. Someday you'll figure it out.
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I suspect that the Mars rover was sent in order to spy on the HYBRID colony preparing to migrate to 4th density Earth after POLE SHIFT!

on_way

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kmoron
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swfpole


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Nancy and her retarded followers continue in praising lense flares. Not only Flareberto is using them but also Nancy Lieder aka Fancy Liar in her latest newsletter.

These poor people and cult victims have big problems in understanding easy camera technology. Besides that you see there the same lame behaviour as every day. They are celebrating floods caused by rain and try to claim that there is some kind of sinking. In a few weeks when the floods are gone they will just jump on the next flooding somewhere in the world without any result.

It was the same with Bangkok and Indonesia a few months ago. And when the flood is gone, they wait hungry for the next one. This is really annoying and creepy. Lost souls in a stupid sect without control or any basic knowledge.
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They are truly a funny bunch. They've been claiming for nearly 10 years that lens flare photos are actually images of "Planet X"...and claiming it's getting closer. And yet, for that same amount of time, this "planet" has never gotten any bigger. Damn thing must be moving at a pace of about 1" a year.
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They are truly a funny bunch. They've been claiming for nearly 10 years that lens flare photos are actually images of "Planet X"...and claiming it's getting closer. And yet, for that same amount of time, this "planet" has never gotten any bigger. Damn thing must be moving at a pace of about 1" a year.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

When it was near the sun in 2003 and 2006 and is it still today, it must be a kind of illuminated inversed black hole.
While we think it,s August 2012, outside the solarsystem it's only January 15, 2003.


Hey Nancy, can you make up this idea for your next fail in December 2012?

For instance:
SOZT
The white lie was not a lie - time is just an illusion.
Outside the influence of Planet X it is now January 17, 2003.
Planet X will pass Earth in June 2003, but remember: Time is just an illusion.
Thus you can expect, in your time scale, the poleshift induced by the approaching Planet X at February 29, 2124.
EOZT


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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All Planet X tards are completely delusional

How many times in internet time have they predicted the thing to bulldoze Earth.....only to backtrack at rapid paces everytime their false prophecies fail.
 Quoting: The Fraud Buster


The "sheeple" seem to forget, that in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" fairy tail, that wolf DID eventually SHOW UP!!!

What say you NOW???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That you should know better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I do - "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is a how-to manual for anyone wanting to design a truly effective PSYOP.

Imagine, that the danger is not "wolves", but "those bent on world domination". Intelligent "wolves" - in other words. Such "wolves" would not be satisfied with allowing the course of events to play themselves out "naturally". TOO RISKY. Rather, they would engage "wolf think tanks" to figure out how they could manipulate and transform obstacles into ASSETS. The boy is initially an OBSTACLE - but later became an ASSET. Now in the fable, it happened "naturally" due to the natural inclination of the boy. BUT ... what if you could send in an agent (or team of agents) to BRIBE the boy, or perhaps, armed with a full psychological profile, figure out how to amplify the boys proclivities that serve your agenda - ideally without the boy even being aware of the manipulation! Maybe you'd send in a another "boy" who would DARE the boy to cry wolf - on multiple occasions. And because the boy had low self-esteem, and desires to be "friends" with the agent child - the boy goes along with the "encouragement".

In the end, the manipulation changes the odds of the outcome in favor of the WOLVES.

Care to dispute that?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


So why do you repeatedly keep helping the wolves out?
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The "sheeple" seem to forget, that in the "Boy Who Cried Wolf" fairy tail, that wolf DID eventually SHOW UP!!!

What say you NOW???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


That you should know better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I do - "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is a how-to manual for anyone wanting to design a truly effective PSYOP.

Imagine, that the danger is not "wolves", but "those bent on world domination". Intelligent "wolves" - in other words. Such "wolves" would not be satisfied with allowing the course of events to play themselves out "naturally". TOO RISKY. Rather, they would engage "wolf think tanks" to figure out how they could manipulate and transform obstacles into ASSETS. The boy is initially an OBSTACLE - but later became an ASSET. Now in the fable, it happened "naturally" due to the natural inclination of the boy. BUT ... what if you could send in an agent (or team of agents) to BRIBE the boy, or perhaps, armed with a full psychological profile, figure out how to amplify the boys proclivities that serve your agenda - ideally without the boy even being aware of the manipulation! Maybe you'd send in a another "boy" who would DARE the boy to cry wolf - on multiple occasions. And because the boy had low self-esteem, and desires to be "friends" with the agent child - the boy goes along with the "encouragement".

In the end, the manipulation changes the odds of the outcome in favor of the WOLVES.

Care to dispute that?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


So why do you repeatedly keep helping the wolves out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Got a lisp?

Just for clarification - Nancy is the BOY (all gender aside).
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Hey melfy, the proctologist called, they found your head!
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That you should know better.
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I do - "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is a how-to manual for anyone wanting to design a truly effective PSYOP.

Imagine, that the danger is not "wolves", but "those bent on world domination". Intelligent "wolves" - in other words. Such "wolves" would not be satisfied with allowing the course of events to play themselves out "naturally". TOO RISKY. Rather, they would engage "wolf think tanks" to figure out how they could manipulate and transform obstacles into ASSETS. The boy is initially an OBSTACLE - but later became an ASSET. Now in the fable, it happened "naturally" due to the natural inclination of the boy. BUT ... what if you could send in an agent (or team of agents) to BRIBE the boy, or perhaps, armed with a full psychological profile, figure out how to amplify the boys proclivities that serve your agenda - ideally without the boy even being aware of the manipulation! Maybe you'd send in a another "boy" who would DARE the boy to cry wolf - on multiple occasions. And because the boy had low self-esteem, and desires to be "friends" with the agent child - the boy goes along with the "encouragement".

In the end, the manipulation changes the odds of the outcome in favor of the WOLVES.

Care to dispute that?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


So why do you repeatedly keep helping the wolves out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Got a lisp?

Just for clarification - Nancy is the BOY (all gender aside).
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think I see what he is saying. You keep promoting the people who are helping those psyops out. Clif, Nancy, others. If they are psyops, you are helping the wolves.

At least that's what I think he's saying.
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Flareberto is at it again...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

What I find telling is that he only posts ONE photo at a time. That's definitely poor practice.

I wouldn't be surprised if he takes multiple photos and culls out all but the one that shows the most flares.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7468171


The stupid is strong there:

What a beauty! The bodies are more or less dispersed as of this capture. Which means the complex is getting nearer?
 Quoting: Some Moron From the Ning

No, it means you're looking at lens flare you idiot. But go ahead and think it's "Planet X" while the rest of you nod our heads in astonishment. Someday you'll figure it out.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I've definitely got to try to reproduce the lens flares that flareberto is getting. Between the two Olympus EPL's and my two older cameras (Olympus C-150 and D-4000), I should be able to reproduce those lens flares and then show that they move as the camera moves in relation to the Sun.

The problem is finding 5.25" floppies or some old exposed B&W film. I do, however, have some of the black mylar solar filter material.
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I do - "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" is a how-to manual for anyone wanting to design a truly effective PSYOP.

Imagine, that the danger is not "wolves", but "those bent on world domination". Intelligent "wolves" - in other words. Such "wolves" would not be satisfied with allowing the course of events to play themselves out "naturally". TOO RISKY. Rather, they would engage "wolf think tanks" to figure out how they could manipulate and transform obstacles into ASSETS. The boy is initially an OBSTACLE - but later became an ASSET. Now in the fable, it happened "naturally" due to the natural inclination of the boy. BUT ... what if you could send in an agent (or team of agents) to BRIBE the boy, or perhaps, armed with a full psychological profile, figure out how to amplify the boys proclivities that serve your agenda - ideally without the boy even being aware of the manipulation! Maybe you'd send in a another "boy" who would DARE the boy to cry wolf - on multiple occasions. And because the boy had low self-esteem, and desires to be "friends" with the agent child - the boy goes along with the "encouragement".

In the end, the manipulation changes the odds of the outcome in favor of the WOLVES.

Care to dispute that?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


So why do you repeatedly keep helping the wolves out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Got a lisp?

Just for clarification - Nancy is the BOY (all gender aside).
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think I see what he is saying. You keep promoting the people who are helping those psyops out. Clif, Nancy, others. If they are psyops, you are helping the wolves.

At least that's what I think he's saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015670


Yes, pretty much.

I also can't help but notice ZM being obtuse about the answer. Replace the Boy in the story with ZM, and it works pretty well.
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So why do you repeatedly keep helping the wolves out?
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Got a lisp?

Just for clarification - Nancy is the BOY (all gender aside).
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


I think I see what he is saying. You keep promoting the people who are helping those psyops out. Clif, Nancy, others. If they are psyops, you are helping the wolves.

At least that's what I think he's saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015670


Yes, pretty much.

I also can't help but notice ZM being obtuse about the answer. Replace the Boy in the story with ZM, and it works pretty well.
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If it be true, that I am inadvertantly "helping" the "wolves" - then it's even MORE true that you are card-carrying member of their fraternity!
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If it be true, that I am inadvertantly "helping" the "wolves" - then it's even MORE true that you are card-carrying member of their fraternity!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How do you figure? Please explain.

This ought to be entertaining.
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If it be true, that I am inadvertantly "helping" the "wolves" - then it's even MORE true that you are card-carrying member of their fraternity!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How do you figure? Please explain.

This ought to be entertaining.
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The year is 1983. IRAS it is announced, in the Detroit News along with the Washington Post and other publications, has located a "tenth planet".

1987 - New Science and Invention Encyclopedia published by H.S. Stuttman, Westport, Connecticut, USA:

The article was discussing the purpose of the Pioneer 10 and 11 space probes. Clearly shown is “Nemesis” a popular name for our sun’s binary companion, a dead star. (Binary solar systems are apparently the rule in our galaxy, not the exception.). Why does this diagram clearly shows the approximate location of Planet X (a.k.a. the 10th or 12th Planet)? Planet X is presented as a matter of fact in this respected encyclopedia. Some have suggested the paths of Pioneers 10 and 11 were chosen as to get a triangulated fix on Planet X, a suggestion this chart would support.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

1991 - Dr. Harrington sits for an interview with Zecharia Sitchen:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]



From the comment section of that video:

In 1991, Harrington, at his own expense, had a telescope lens ground for an observation he made in New Zealand. Before he could publish present his findings, he suddenly died from esophageal cancer in 1993. After which, his Planet X theory was trashed with an obituary designed to achieve that aim, even though his widow still believes that her husband was murdered.

From [link to yowusa.com]

Weigh together the following numerous facts:

Publicity of Harrington's discovery would pose a great threat to the social, political, and economic stability of the World;

It is extremely unlikely that a man would contract cancer and die within a matter of days, suffering the sudden impact of pain and debilitation characteristic of rapid onset cancer, while miraculously traveling on a physically demanding expedition and performing intensive astronomical operations.


Now - you can type "debunked Debunked DEBUNKED!!!" all you want, until your fingers fall off, and it won't change ANY of these FACTS.

*****IF***** Planet X is real, and the above FACTS - while not proving the actual existence of Planet X, provide VERY persuasive evidence for it's actuality.

Again "IF" such a beast exists, then so do it's DANGERS. Dangers the power elite of the globe would have a HUGE incentive to keep out of the public eye.

Harrington died in 1993.

1995 - ZetaTalk BEGINS.

"Co-incidence?" - I think NOT. In this case, the "Bunker" is heads, and the "Debunker" is tails to the SAME COIN. A coin designed to purchase the ignorance of the general public, and keep it intact as long as possible.

I am simply a third party observer to this ongoing "tag team" or "good cop", "bad cop" routine. Where in fact, both the "bunker Nancy" the debunkers that rail against her are in fact after the exact same goal:

Keeping the public IGNORANT.

Unfortunately, the game is brilliantly conceived, and the only way for a third party to not contribute to the goal of the game is to simply not participate in it.

I get it - I do.

But "not participating" is in fact just another form of CONTRIBUTION to the goal of maintaining public ignorance.

So it's lose, Lose, LOSE for anyone who actually opposes this charade - no matter what angle they try to attack it with.

I just do it out of frustration - with no expectation of making ANY difference at all. In fact, I am fully aware that my participation only furthers the agenda of public ignorance - because of how silly my legacy appears.

I get it - I do.

But at the end of the day - I can't ignore the above FACTS, and so I rail pathetically at their disparagement.

But if my contribution to the cover-up is inadvertent - YOURS is CONSCIOUS and INTENTIONAL.

Hence, why I call you "card carrying".
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If it be true, that I am inadvertantly "helping" the "wolves" - then it's even MORE true that you are card-carrying member of their fraternity!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How do you figure? Please explain.

This ought to be entertaining.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The year is 1983. IRAS it is announced, in the Detroit News along with the Washington Post and other publications, has located a "tenth planet".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

That is not what it said. The 1983 article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. In fact, it initially found 9 unidentified point-like sources of infrared light, listed here:
0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732+239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

Here are the papers that identified these objects:
Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.
Now - you can type "debunked Debunked DEBUNKED!!!" all you want, until your fingers fall off, and it won't change ANY of these FACTS.
 Quoting: max

It IS debunked and it does NOT exist. That is a proven fact max.
Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist
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If it be true, that I am inadvertantly "helping" the "wolves" - then it's even MORE true that you are card-carrying member of their fraternity!
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**


How do you figure? Please explain.

This ought to be entertaining.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The year is 1983. IRAS it is announced, in the Detroit News along with the Washington Post and other publications, has located a "tenth planet".
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

That is not what it said. The 1983 article claims it "could" be a jupiter-like planet OR extra-galactic, they had no idea when it was first observed. IRAS did not find a planet though, it did find a number of infrared-luminous galaxies and intragalactic dust. In fact, it initially found 9 unidentified point-like sources of infrared light, listed here:
0358+223 3h 58m 2.8s 22d 18’ 0”
0404+101 4h 4m 44.7s 10d 11’ 52”
0412+085 4h 12m 32.3s 8d 31’ 13”
0413+122 4h 13m 47.3s 12d 17’ 16”
0422+009 4h 22m 54.0s 0d 56’ 6”
0425-012 4h 25m 12.1s -1d 14’ 50”
1703+049 17h 3m 1.4s 4d 57’ 50”
1712+100 17h 12m 57.8s 10d 4’ 8”
1732+239 17h 32m 51.4s 23d 56’ 36”

Here are the papers that identified these objects:
Unidentified point sources in the IRAS minisurvey, Houck et al. Astrophysical Journal, vol. 278, March 1, 1984, p. L63-L66

Unidentified IRAS sources - Ultrahigh-luminosity galaxies, Houck et al., Astrophysical Journal, vol. 290, March 1, 1985, p. L5-L8.

Optical counterparts of unidentified IRAS point sources Infrared luminous galaxies, Aaronson and Olszewski, Nature, vol. 309, May 31, 1984, p. 414-417.
Now - you can type "debunked Debunked DEBUNKED!!!" all you want, until your fingers fall off, and it won't change ANY of these FACTS.
 Quoting: max

It IS debunked and it does NOT exist. That is a proven fact max.
Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist
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Oh - so it's a GALAXY? And this was determined in 1984 and 1985?

Question: WHY DID HARRINGTON BELIEVE OTHERWISE?

And since his enthusiasm for "Planet X" persisted at least up to 1991 when the Sitchen interview took place - WHY DID HE REMAIN HEAD OF THE NAVAL OBSERVATORY???

Why didn't his colleagues take decisive steps to remove such a "FOOL" from such an important post?

Care to answer that DOCTOR????
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Oh - so it's a GALAXY? And this was determined in 1984 and 1985?

Question: WHY DID HARRINGTON BELIEVE OTHERWISE?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

WTF!?
Harrington did not believe that the IRAS object was his Planet X.
Confused much?

And since his enthusiasm for "Planet X" persisted at least up to 1991 when the Sitchen interview took place - WHY DID HE REMAIN HEAD OF THE NAVAL OBSERVATORY???
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

Nothing wrong with hunting for Planet X.

The astronomical Planet X, not Nancy's Magical Mystery Planet of Dooooom.
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Question: WHY DID HARRINGTON BELIEVE OTHERWISE?
 Quoting: **ZetaMax**

I'm sure he wanted to believe his theory was confirmed, but why did he keep searching for it if he thought IRAS found it, eh dumbass?
And since his enthusiasm for "Planet X" persisted at least up to 1991 when the Sitchen interview took place - WHY DID HE REMAIN HEAD OF THE NAVAL OBSERVATORY???
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It was a valid theory until the Voyager telemetry data was analyzed and published shortly after his death. It also bore no resemblance to Nancy's bullshit.
Why didn't his colleagues take decisive steps to remove such a "FOOL" from such an important post?

Care to answer that DOCTOR????
 Quoting: max

Just because his theory ended up being wrong does not make him a fool you idiot. It wasn't even proven wrong until after he died.

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