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Ning poster spanked for daring to question the party line.

Comment by Planet Twelve 10 hours ago
@Richard Greenfield:
You say again? You said that twice?? I wouldn't have bothered. You think that is on the water??? Patently ridiculous.
And I don't see where you said that the first time, thus it was rightfully deleted. Which of course means you are re-posting a deleted comment. That is against the Rules, and not advisable, if you don't want to be Suspended.
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Someone posted an alleged "PX-picture" = Lenseflares taken by a "professional"=amateur:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

The poster even wrote:
"He also took special care in making sure that his lens was clean. The second pic is a photoshopped version of the original pic, to enhance the object by adjusting the hue."
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 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

Had it on my bill yesterday in combination with one of Flarebertos creations.

Thread: Nibiru / Planet X left Solar System - Poleshit Members in Despair


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 Quoting: Hydra

It seems even old members are getting upset with Poleshit-Nancy:

Comment by Beenthdonedat 10 minutes ago
Alright, a couple of things here. First, you wouldn't find a biggest Planet X existence advocate, no matter how hard you tried, than me. That said, let's analyze this picture for a moment.The orbs that I marked as "1" and "2" look eerily similar to all the others ones on this picture. That in and of itself wouldn't give me any pause, however.... the #1 and #2 are easily discernible as artifacts.
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Screenshot of the complete comment: [link to p-m-a.org]

Can't post Poleshit screenshots as custom smilies:
"A custom smilie you recently uploaded has not been approved, for the following reason: troll crap from another forum, so no."


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 Quoting: Hydra

I would bet that it is more to do with Nancy complaining to the mods here about being quoted. She complained some time ago about stuff from the ning being reproduced here, copyright infringement she called it. I remember when Dr. Postman asked us to limit our quoting of ning crap to a few lines and a link. Nancy pissed off a lot of the mods here, I don't think she has many friends left on this site.
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Nancy has taken them to another brink of expectation, just like she did with the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, with this "announcement" thing. I'm sure that when the cry of: "Well, when is it going to happen" gets louder in a few weeks/months, Nancy will retreat to: "I never said it was sure to happen", or: "Hands of man", or "The Council of World's had to intervene", or insert your own favority excuse here "______".
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Nancy has taken them to another brink of expectation, just like she did with the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, with this "announcement" thing. I'm sure that when the cry of: "Well, when is it going to happen" gets louder in a few weeks/months, Nancy will retreat to: "I never said it was sure to happen", or: "Hands of man", or "The Council of World's had to intervene", or insert your own favority excuse here "______".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Talking of the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, what's het excuse for Indonesia still not sinking 80 feet under the sea...or is she avoiding that subject...
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Can't post Poleshit screenshots as custom smilies:
"A custom smilie you recently uploaded has not been approved, for the following reason: troll crap from another forum, so no."
 Quoting: Hydra

I would bet that it is more to do with Nancy complaining to the mods here about being quoted. She complained some time ago about stuff from the ning being reproduced here, copyright infringement she called it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385

Poleshit-Nancy and copyright infringement?

LOL

Ask #Geomagnetic_Storm# (Marketselloff), Reuters, dpa, ... how Poleshit-Nancy thinks about copyright infringement.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Nancy has taken them to another brink of expectation, just like she did with the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, with this "announcement" thing. I'm sure that when the cry of: "Well, when is it going to happen" gets louder in a few weeks/months, Nancy will retreat to: "I never said it was sure to happen", or: "Hands of man", or "The Council of World's had to intervene", or insert your own favority excuse here "______".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Talking of the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, what's het excuse for Indonesia still not sinking 80 feet under the sea...or is she avoiding that subject...
 Quoting: walt

She already did:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 14 hours ago
@Lady Frog
The Last Weeks have NO begun, for Pete's sake! We are still in the 7 of 10, overlapping with the 8 of 10! Has the Straits of Gibraltar separated an additional 125 miles? Has the New Madrid disaster happened in the US? Get educated!


But where is the comment of Lady Frog?

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Nancy has taken them to another brink of expectation, just like she did with the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, with this "announcement" thing. I'm sure that when the cry of: "Well, when is it going to happen" gets louder in a few weeks/months, Nancy will retreat to: "I never said it was sure to happen", or: "Hands of man", or "The Council of World's had to intervene", or insert your own favority excuse here "______".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Talking of the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, what's het excuse for Indonesia still not sinking 80 feet under the sea...or is she avoiding that subject...
 Quoting: walt

She already did:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 14 hours ago
@Lady Frog
The Last Weeks have NO begun, for Pete's sake! We are still in the 7 of 10, overlapping with the 8 of 10! Has the Straits of Gibraltar separated an additional 125 miles? Has the New Madrid disaster happened in the US? Get educated!


But where is the comment of Lady Frog?

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


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 Quoting: Hydra


Now, its not 7 of 10, its seven weeks to christmas now.

An how the ultimate stupid can advise others to get educated.....
This lady is ill, in the worst meaning of the word.
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okay so we must actually THANK Nancy for giving an advanced warning of 2 years + ....LOL!
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I don't know...with as "creative" as she can be, she could have come up with some kind of excuse that would keep her cult members on the hook for years to come. She should have said the "pole shift" would happen far enough into the future so she wouldn't even be here for the failure. But then again, she's managed to keep a fair amount of them on hook this long. While her numbers are dropping, it still amazes me how many of them will accept excuse after excuse. I wonder when Astrogal50 joined the fold? I'd like to know how long she's been there and then see how much longer she'll keep buying the excuses. She managed to keep FreeStore on the hook for quite a long time...from before 2003 until about 2009ish I think. Luser showed up sometime around 2003/2004 and disappeared in late 2009 or 2010. I'm not sure when Andrew showed up but it appears he may have finally come back to reality. Somehow, she's managed to keep Gerard the Retard on the hook for a long time. But then, at least for a time, it appeared he was being groomed to be her successor. I don't know if that's still the case - but I bet he was eagerly awaiting his implant like a child waits for Christmas morning.
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Spiritual 4D

Posted by Gerard Zwaan on November 8, 2012 at 1:03pm
The Zetas have mentioned souls that technically can graduate to 4th density, ...



From my German-English dictionary I get that "density" is synonymous to "stupidity".

Considering this, I'm firmly convinced that all Poleshit members already graduated to 4th density.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Concerning stupiditiy they have already upgraded to 7th out of 10th density ...

Though I think there are hardly enough numbers to quantify the real stupidity of lying Lieders last desperate tards...
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Nancy has taken them to another brink of expectation, just like she did with the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, with this "announcement" thing. I'm sure that when the cry of: "Well, when is it going to happen" gets louder in a few weeks/months, Nancy will retreat to: "I never said it was sure to happen", or: "Hands of man", or "The Council of World's had to intervene", or insert your own favority excuse here "______".
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


Talking of the 7 of 10 at the end of 2010, what's het excuse for Indonesia still not sinking 80 feet under the sea...or is she avoiding that subject...
 Quoting: walt


Nancy doesn't have to avoid it. No one dares say anything about it over there. Her firewall can't be breached with any troublesome questions like that.
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One of the most astounding aspects of Nancy's story has always been the contradiction that the "Council of Worlds" isn't supposed to interfere with the effects of PX and they want Humanity to know the truth, BUT they are doing all sorts of things to simulate normalcy, as if PX didn't exist. Heh...
This contradiction has to be on people's minds, even at the Ning. Hence, this sort of question creeps in:

David Lillington said:
I believe that anyone who is asked the question." Do you wish to know the truth", will answere every time a very loud YES. My question in on the " Its in the hands of man " statement. If it is in the hands of man, Then man does want to know the truth. That means olmost everbody on the planet. Is The council of worlds going to very soon make sure every body knows.?


And Nancy sez:

Reply by Nancy Lieder yesterday

David. Earth has STS as well as STO. Free will of man exists and is not to be interferred with UNLESS by exceptional decree from the Council of Worlds. The STS want the general populace to be kept dumb until the last minute, for all the reasons the Zetas have detailed. But the Council of Worlds has declared a war on the cover-up, and this has only taken a pause so that Obama could get re-elected. Hopefully, things will heat up and Nibiru/Planet X presence will be more obvious.
Question declined as already covered on all those points in recent ZetaTalk. Read the chats for the past 2-3 months.



"War on the coverup"?? All they would have to do it stop "simulating normalcy" and the alleged coverup would crumble instantly. It makes no sense at all.
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I don't know...with as "creative" as she can be, she could have come up with some kind of excuse that would keep her cult members on the hook for years to come. She should have said the "pole shift" would happen far enough into the future so she wouldn't even be here for the failure. But then again, she's managed to keep a fair amount of them on hook this long. While her numbers are dropping, it still amazes me how many of them will accept excuse after excuse. I wonder when Astrogal50 joined the fold? I'd like to know how long she's been there and then see how much longer she'll keep buying the excuses. She managed to keep FreeStore on the hook for quite a long time...from before 2003 until about 2009ish I think. Luser showed up sometime around 2003/2004 and disappeared in late 2009 or 2010. I'm not sure when Andrew showed up but it appears he may have finally come back to reality. Somehow, she's managed to keep Gerard the Retard on the hook for a long time. But then, at least for a time, it appeared he was being groomed to be her successor. I don't know if that's still the case - but I bet he was eagerly awaiting his implant like a child waits for Christmas morning.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


So have Freestore and Andrew recanted, or just ceased to be around or what?
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Gawd! Here, the "Zetas" outline all the reasons a announcement of PX by Obama will not cause a panic! This flies directly in the face of all the reasoning used to explain why they allegedly had to hide the effects of PX from the population. The contradiction is so glaring as to be unavoidable by even the most dense Ningers (one would think).

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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Yup, those pesky zetas. They aren't allowed to interfere, so they hide the obvious signs that px is here by tilting the earth to simulate normalcy and plan to breed a hybrid race that will replace the human race, all to protect us from the evil powers that are trying to hide the truth from us about px and the pole shift. But they can't override a television network to transmit a message to us, that would be interfering in human matters. Only the very stupidest could overlook such blinding contradictions. The 7 of 10 was a fail, just like the infamous "Christmas Hammer" that was supposed to happen several years ago (still waiting).

As for Freestore and Andrew, I think Freestore got himself banned from GLP and Wankdrew just disappeared. I hope he figured out he was being played and is out doing things that lads his age should be doing instead of following a crazy doom merchant like an enamoured puppy dog.
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Yes, I still remember the "Xmas Hammer", Menow. I guess they use this lame story every year around xmas. Of course it never happened but at least Gerard Zwaan - Zwaanster the dumbest monster - claimed to be hit by it in late 2010.

But he was the only one being hit by it and you can still see the effects. Zwaanster is a walking dead, Mr. Jackass in persona, a guy who admires Ahmadinedschad and Hugo Chavez.

I guess Gerard Zwaan would have also admired Adolf Hitler 70 years ago. He is that kind of stupid follower who understands nothing and swallows/ believes every bullshit as long as it serves his advantage.

In a certain way the system of censorship on the poleshit ning looks like a relict of the Nazi-times. They try to use the same strategy and combine it with some elements of other cults and sects as Scientology or Hare Krishna.

There are not many followers left but the whole scenario remembers me the tragedy of the Heaven`s Gate cult. The last fanatic followers of Nancy Lieder are close to such an overreaction. So the police and some other official authorities should have an eye on this freaky cult, because they will outrage soon and nobody knows the result. The more predictions fail - and Nancy Lieder`s predictions always failed - the bigger is the danger that they will commit a kind of mass suicide or try even terroristic attacks.
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Yes, I still remember the "Xmas Hammer", Menow. I guess they use this lame story every year around xmas. Of course it never happened but at least Gerard Zwaan - Zwaanster the dumbest monster - claimed to be hit by it in late 2010.

But he was the only one being hit by it and you can still see the effects. Zwaanster is a walking dead, Mr. Jackass in persona, a guy who admires Ahmadinedschad and Hugo Chavez.

I guess Gerard Zwaan would have also admired Adolf Hitler 70 years ago. He is that kind of stupid follower who understands nothing and swallows/ believes every bullshit as long as it serves his advantage.

In a certain way the system of censorship on the poleshit ning looks like a relict of the Nazi-times. They try to use the same strategy and combine it with some elements of other cults and sects as Scientology or Hare Krishna.

There are not many followers left but the whole scenario remembers me the tragedy of the Heaven`s Gate cult. The last fanatic followers of Nancy Lieder are close to such an overreaction. So the police and some other official authorities should have an eye on this freaky cult, because they will outrage soon and nobody knows the result. The more predictions fail - and Nancy Lieder`s predictions always failed - the bigger is the danger that they will commit a kind of mass suicide or try even terroristic attacks.
 Quoting: Truther 27304950


Maybe you don't remember or know that Gerard was "Obany" from when Nancy had her live IRC chat. He was the thug policeman who would threaten and ban people for challenging Nancy's astronomical predictions and pronouncements. The archives are still available on the net- they are a hoot!
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Good to see you posting again, Menow.
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Good to see you posting again, Menow.
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You too, 7 of 4444!
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Here is where one of the Youboob people who push on the whole Earth tilt thing got caught misrepresenting Moon images.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Reply by Nancy Lieder on Monday

Adding a Q got via email from Gordon James Gianninoto. This has been accepted by the Zetas.

A photo from the Mars Rover

(image address removed due to glp instaban crap- its from nasa)

shows mice on Mars! Published on Oct 25, 2012 this video publicizes that fact. Good catch!

 Quoting: nancy


See what happens when the Martians keep visiting Earth all the time????

Now they are gunna have to caught up some major dollars to get an rodent exterminator in- and those guys usually charge travelling time by the mileage and time- thats gotta hurt the martians wallets
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Mice on mars? These hillybillies in the poleshit.ning are really too stupid to sit.

But it is not surprising that the same people are using old floppy-disks to discover planets. They have no basic knowledge about nothing. How do you want to expect that people can see the difference between a lense flare and a planet if they can`t see the difference between a stone and a mouse.

They are simply stone stupid.
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Mice on mars? These hillybillies in the poleshit.ning are really too stupid to sit.

But it is not surprising that the same people are using old floppy-disks to discover planets. They have no basic knowledge about nothing. How do you want to expect that people can see the difference between a lense flare and a planet if they can`t see the difference between a stone and a mouse.

They are simply stone stupid.
 Quoting: Truther 27379822


Don't insult stones. At least a stone has a useful purpose.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Spiritual 4D

Posted by Gerard Zwaan on November 8, 2012 at 1:03pm
The Zetas have mentioned souls that technically can graduate to 4th density, ...



From my German-English dictionary I get that "density" is synonymous to "stupidity".

Considering this, I'm firmly convinced that all Poleshit members already graduated to 4th density.


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Your dictionary is correct.

den·si·ty
2. stupidity; slow-wittedness; obtuseness.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Spiritual 4D

Posted by Gerard Zwaan on November 8, 2012 at 1:03pm
The Zetas have mentioned souls that technically can graduate to 4th density, ...



From my German-English dictionary I get that "density" is synonymous to "stupidity".

Considering this, I'm firmly convinced that all Poleshit members already graduated to 4th density.


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Haha, love it lol!
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Hey, Elemental -- that certainly made me laugh.

I think it's too late to get those made and sold before 2012 is over... after that, I think there's a decided lack of widely-reported Doom for a few years, at least.

Maybe for 2036?
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Hey 74444! how lovely to *hear* from you! I'm sure that something else will crop up; there is no lack of doompertunity here!
 Quoting: Elemental


Good to be *heard* and to watch your type on a screen as well.

You are not incorrect -- the attractiveness of different types of Doom scenarios continues to fascinate me. Why are we, seemingly as a species, attracted to these sorts of ideas and predictions? Is it cultural, or something deeper? Is it a survival mechanism -- a sort of prepared for he worst thing that makes us all think so irrationally about some potential, if very unlikely, disasters? How do we choose (or do we?) which scenarios we attract, and which we reject? And do we learn from past failures?

Anyhow, nice to see you typing. Look forward to more conversations.
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I have considered this since you posted. I believe that there are a multitude of answers ranging from dissatisfaction with the mundanity of life to a fear of our own mortality. Any doom will do providing that it changes the perception of life as it is. We have access to so much information without any real understanding. There are so many dots that one could draw a fully dressed Christmas tree when joining them; however I am unsure as to how understood each dot is. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...leider (her name does not deserve the respect of a capital letter) has used this to her advantage; a little, provable fact combined with some cryptic, suggestive nonsense. This appears to be an inbuilt pattern to doomtards; choose a subject, throw in a respected scientific opinion then twist it into something entirely different. Scary. The earth, as we know it, will, inevitably change; eventually our sun will run out of hydrogen/helium and start to burn it's reserves of lithium7 and deuterium before dying. This is a fact. When it happens is another matter. We are travelling through an interstellar gas cloud however we have no real idea of the consequences. Personally, my daughter died a few years ago and so I search for impossible answers, something to justify the cruelty of loss but not doom. Something to occupy my thoughts probably and an interaction with others who know nothing of my loss and therefore offer an objective opinion. Too much merlot and I apologise for my ramblings! Much respect to you dear 74444, and to Hydra whose constant debunking has given me so much true knowledge!
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I think I may have come to a better understanding of why Astro felt truly threatened and vulnerable to online cretins. These people who believe in the idea of pole shift are truly creepy and deluded, and I think a significant number of them may actually be dangerous. If you threaten their beliefs they feel personally threatened and lash out.
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I think I may have come to a better understanding of why Astro felt truly threatened and vulnerable to online cretins. These people who believe in the idea of pole shift are truly creepy and deluded, and I think a significant number of them may actually be dangerous. If you threaten their beliefs they feel personally threatened and lash out.
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Very true and insightful Menow; I'm sorry that we got off on the wrong foot
hf
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And a big hug for you, Elemental!

Life is often crazy enough.

Sorry to hear that story about your daughter!

Crazy Nancy is responsible for more than one or two death persons out there. And all the pets!

I hope that Nancy Lieder dies soon. Really!

She is an old bastard telling lies. And she wanted to get a cult leader, but lying lieder..well....!

The cult of Nacny Lieder is very close to the former cult of Heaven`s Gate. She is a luntaic!


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