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Good to see you posting again, Menow.
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Good to see you posting again, Menow.
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You too, 7 of 4444!
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Here is where one of the Youboob people who push on the whole Earth tilt thing got caught misrepresenting Moon images.

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Reply by Nancy Lieder on Monday

Adding a Q got via email from Gordon James Gianninoto. This has been accepted by the Zetas.

A photo from the Mars Rover

(image address removed due to glp instaban crap- its from nasa)

shows mice on Mars! Published on Oct 25, 2012 this video publicizes that fact. Good catch!

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See what happens when the Martians keep visiting Earth all the time????

Now they are gunna have to caught up some major dollars to get an rodent exterminator in- and those guys usually charge travelling time by the mileage and time- thats gotta hurt the martians wallets
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Mice on mars? These hillybillies in the poleshit.ning are really too stupid to sit.

But it is not surprising that the same people are using old floppy-disks to discover planets. They have no basic knowledge about nothing. How do you want to expect that people can see the difference between a lense flare and a planet if they can`t see the difference between a stone and a mouse.

They are simply stone stupid.
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Mice on mars? These hillybillies in the poleshit.ning are really too stupid to sit.

But it is not surprising that the same people are using old floppy-disks to discover planets. They have no basic knowledge about nothing. How do you want to expect that people can see the difference between a lense flare and a planet if they can`t see the difference between a stone and a mouse.

They are simply stone stupid.
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Don't insult stones. At least a stone has a useful purpose.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Spiritual 4D

Posted by Gerard Zwaan on November 8, 2012 at 1:03pm
The Zetas have mentioned souls that technically can graduate to 4th density, ...



From my German-English dictionary I get that "density" is synonymous to "stupidity".

Considering this, I'm firmly convinced that all Poleshit members already graduated to 4th density.


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Your dictionary is correct.

den·si·ty
2. stupidity; slow-wittedness; obtuseness.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Spiritual 4D

Posted by Gerard Zwaan on November 8, 2012 at 1:03pm
The Zetas have mentioned souls that technically can graduate to 4th density, ...



From my German-English dictionary I get that "density" is synonymous to "stupidity".

Considering this, I'm firmly convinced that all Poleshit members already graduated to 4th density.


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Haha, love it lol!
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Hey, Elemental -- that certainly made me laugh.

I think it's too late to get those made and sold before 2012 is over... after that, I think there's a decided lack of widely-reported Doom for a few years, at least.

Maybe for 2036?
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Hey 74444! how lovely to *hear* from you! I'm sure that something else will crop up; there is no lack of doompertunity here!
 Quoting: Elemental


Good to be *heard* and to watch your type on a screen as well.

You are not incorrect -- the attractiveness of different types of Doom scenarios continues to fascinate me. Why are we, seemingly as a species, attracted to these sorts of ideas and predictions? Is it cultural, or something deeper? Is it a survival mechanism -- a sort of prepared for he worst thing that makes us all think so irrationally about some potential, if very unlikely, disasters? How do we choose (or do we?) which scenarios we attract, and which we reject? And do we learn from past failures?

Anyhow, nice to see you typing. Look forward to more conversations.
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I have considered this since you posted. I believe that there are a multitude of answers ranging from dissatisfaction with the mundanity of life to a fear of our own mortality. Any doom will do providing that it changes the perception of life as it is. We have access to so much information without any real understanding. There are so many dots that one could draw a fully dressed Christmas tree when joining them; however I am unsure as to how understood each dot is. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing...leider (her name does not deserve the respect of a capital letter) has used this to her advantage; a little, provable fact combined with some cryptic, suggestive nonsense. This appears to be an inbuilt pattern to doomtards; choose a subject, throw in a respected scientific opinion then twist it into something entirely different. Scary. The earth, as we know it, will, inevitably change; eventually our sun will run out of hydrogen/helium and start to burn it's reserves of lithium7 and deuterium before dying. This is a fact. When it happens is another matter. We are travelling through an interstellar gas cloud however we have no real idea of the consequences. Personally, my daughter died a few years ago and so I search for impossible answers, something to justify the cruelty of loss but not doom. Something to occupy my thoughts probably and an interaction with others who know nothing of my loss and therefore offer an objective opinion. Too much merlot and I apologise for my ramblings! Much respect to you dear 74444, and to Hydra whose constant debunking has given me so much true knowledge!
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I think I may have come to a better understanding of why Astro felt truly threatened and vulnerable to online cretins. These people who believe in the idea of pole shift are truly creepy and deluded, and I think a significant number of them may actually be dangerous. If you threaten their beliefs they feel personally threatened and lash out.
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I think I may have come to a better understanding of why Astro felt truly threatened and vulnerable to online cretins. These people who believe in the idea of pole shift are truly creepy and deluded, and I think a significant number of them may actually be dangerous. If you threaten their beliefs they feel personally threatened and lash out.
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Very true and insightful Menow; I'm sorry that we got off on the wrong foot
hf
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And a big hug for you, Elemental!

Life is often crazy enough.

Sorry to hear that story about your daughter!

Crazy Nancy is responsible for more than one or two death persons out there. And all the pets!

I hope that Nancy Lieder dies soon. Really!

She is an old bastard telling lies. And she wanted to get a cult leader, but lying lieder..well....!

The cult of Nacny Lieder is very close to the former cult of Heaven`s Gate. She is a luntaic!
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And a big hug for you, Elemental!

Life is often crazy enough.

Sorry to hear that story about your daughter!

Crazy Nancy is responsible for more than one or two death persons out there. And all the pets!

I hope that Nancy Lieder dies soon. Really!

She is an old bastard telling lies. And she wanted to get a cult leader, but lying lieder..well....!

The cult of Nacny Lieder is very close to the former cult of Heaven`s Gate. She is a luntaic!
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She is an old lunatic....and I will register an account...lol...

Who wants to be with crazy Nancy Lieder? Even the dogs would run!
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I think I may have come to a better understanding of why Astro felt truly threatened and vulnerable to online cretins. These people who believe in the idea of pole shift are truly creepy and deluded, and I think a significant number of them may actually be dangerous. If you threaten their beliefs they feel personally threatened and lash out.
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Very true and insightful Menow; I'm sorry that we got off on the wrong foot
hf
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No worries.
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It is incredible but the nobrainers on the ning are really discussing whether there are rats on the mars.

Nancy Lieder could tell them that there are lions and jungles on the mars and they would believe it. So rats eating sand is no big surprise for some Simpletons who try to discover planets with smart phones and floppy-discs.

How could these poor people get sooooo lost? They live their life in a very bad Scifi-story for absolute beginners.
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It is incredible but the nobrainers on the ning are really discussing whether there are rats on the mars.

Nancy Lieder could tell them that there are lions and jungles on the mars and they would believe it. So rats eating sand is no big surprise for some Simpletons who try to discover planets with smart phones and floppy-discs.

How could these poor people get sooooo lost? They live their life in a very bad Scifi-story for absolute beginners.
 Quoting: Truther 27442743


rly?
Maybe they should start with wether it has an atmosphere or not... and then what it consists of..

In case... it consists of 95.3% CO2, 2.7%N , 1.6%Ar, 1300ppm O2, 800 ppm CO and 210 ppm H2O...

Then there is the question of how these rats manage temperatures from -133°C, an average of -55°C and max. temps about +27°C?


I guess these rats must be respiring... ahem... CO2 and have some kind of extra-thick skin??

Oh wait. Nancy's rats doesn't oblique the physical world..

lol.

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It is incredible but the nobrainers on the ning are really discussing whether there are rats on the mars.

Nancy Lieder could tell them that there are lions and jungles on the mars and they would believe it. So rats eating sand is no big surprise for some Simpletons who try to discover planets with smart phones and floppy-discs.

How could these poor people get sooooo lost? They live their life in a very bad Scifi-story for absolute beginners.
 Quoting: Truther 27442743


It's all based on a steadfast belief in a vast conspiracy. Without that, it all falls apart.
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It is incredible but the nobrainers on the ning are really discussing whether there are rats on the mars.

Nancy Lieder could tell them that there are lions and jungles on the mars and they would believe it. So rats eating sand is no big surprise for some Simpletons who try to discover planets with smart phones and floppy-discs.

How could these poor people get sooooo lost? They live their life in a very bad Scifi-story for absolute beginners.
 Quoting: Truther 27442743


rly?
Maybe they should start with wether it has an atmosphere or not... and then what it consists of..

In case... it consists of 95.3% CO2, 2.7%N , 1.6%Ar, 1300ppm O2, 800 ppm CO and 210 ppm H2O...

Then there is the question of how these rats manage temperatures from -133°C, an average of -55°C and max. temps about +27°C?


I guess these rats must be respiring... ahem... CO2 and have some kind of extra-thick skin??

Oh wait. Nancy's rats doesn't oblique the physical world..

lol.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Simple... they don't accept that Mars doesn't have an atmosphere. They will accept NASA images of alleged rats, but selectively reject anthing from NASA that doesn't align with whatever Nancy says. It's bizarre, but true.
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It is incredible but the nobrainers on the ning are really discussing whether there are rats on the mars.

Nancy Lieder could tell them that there are lions and jungles on the mars and they would believe it. So rats eating sand is no big surprise for some Simpletons who try to discover planets with smart phones and floppy-discs.

How could these poor people get sooooo lost? They live their life in a very bad Scifi-story for absolute beginners.
 Quoting: Truther 27442743


rly?
Maybe they should start with wether it has an atmosphere or not... and then what it consists of..

In case... it consists of 95.3% CO2, 2.7%N , 1.6%Ar, 1300ppm O2, 800 ppm CO and 210 ppm H2O...

Then there is the question of how these rats manage temperatures from -133°C, an average of -55°C and max. temps about +27°C?


I guess these rats must be respiring... ahem... CO2 and have some kind of extra-thick skin??

Oh wait. Nancy's rats doesn't oblique the physical world..

lol.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Simple... they don't accept that Mars doesn't have an atmosphere. They will accept NASA images of alleged rats, but selectively reject anthing from NASA that doesn't align with whatever Nancy says. It's bizarre, but true.
 Quoting: Menow 18943200


You're right.
They see want they want to see.

Whatever Nancy will proclaim as "per the Zetas" will directly be adopted into their belief without questioning it.

If Nancy says there are rats on mars, they'll believe it.
If Nancy says there is another species living deep in the earth's crust, they'll believe it.
If Nancy says Indonesia has sunk more than 20feet, they'll believe it.
If Nancy says Earth is stopped in its Orbit, they'll believe it.
If Nancy says PX can be seen through a floppy but not through a telescope, they.....

If Nancy says Planet X passed the earth without a poleshift and nobody noticed, they'll believe it!


Bizarre indeed. Thats what someone gets when he fully relies upon someone elses interpretations.

btw: great to have you back ;)

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Nancy Lieder is a rat, an old and bad one ...

She is a pathetic liar and a fraudster. She is abusing innocent people. Nancy Lieder is a lowlife.

And her slave Gerard Zwaan is the same category....

Lying Lieder and Zwaanster the monster: what a scary team!
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Nancy Lieder is a rat, an old and bad one ...

She is a pathetic liar and a fraudster. She is abusing innocent people. Nancy Lieder is a lowlife.

And her slave Gerard Zwaan is the same category....

Lying Lieder and Zwaanster the monster: what a scary team!
 Quoting: Truther 27466619


Lieder is a rat on Mars, but Zwaanster doesn't know what he's doing.

I can understand that many people draw a direct relation to him but in my mind he's being prejudiced for something he is not aware of.

I've meet him personally and he's a really good guy! ( I mean the type of guy who really cares about others situations) - And im sure if he would be aware of the real situation he'd lash out on Nancy BIG TIME.

But.... he isn't aware and still trapped with ZT, believing he's doing a big favor - which doesn't change the nature of his motives though: a truely caring act (though for the wrong cause).

"Social" people aren't excluded from fallacies...
Gerard is not one of Nancy's caliber. They are as different as + and -.

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Wow.....the year 2012 has seemingly flown by so quickly and it's looking more and more likely that those bizarre "Planet Xers" and 2012 "it's the end of the world as we know it" doomsters are about to be hugely disappointed.....

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Was there ever any doubt on that?
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Having checked the latest activity over a couple of days it really seems most people have left PSNing / ZT behind.

A couple of months ago many people were attending but now really only the Moderators and a handful of people post anymore.

They killed it - with the intention to create an ever closer circle.
Which isn't bad at all so fewer people are being mislead.... though if Nancy would have been kicked out earlier it could've actually taken a different path.


Its a fast sinking ship... and I sense the "captain" will just disappear like Scettino (the italians call him "cretino"=moron) did with the MS Concordia.

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btw, their "rats on mars" discussion indicates that the Moderators are hurt emotionally.

I understand that they feel attacked personally, but if they're reading this Id suggest to not get distracted with insults but rather look at the arguments.

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The fact that the ning is slowly dying isn't really a surprise. The same thing happened the last time she ventured off to another site where she could control every aspect of the discussion. The phrase, "The harder you squeeze the more sand that slips through your fingers" comes to mind. Without debunkers, Nancy is nothing.
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Another one:

Thread: Planet X in Idaho - Poleshit-Nancy fails again


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Oh god. They've lost every little remaining bit of rationality.

Quoted from your posting:
"These three photos were taken within one minute."

The one second Planet X is there and the other second its supposed to be somewhere totally different?

They must be fucking kidding us...

Oh well... if they wan't to remain in their little phantasy world then so be it.

Planet X... my ass.

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The fact that the ning is slowly dying isn't really a surprise. The same thing happened the last time she ventured off to another site where she could control every aspect of the discussion. The phrase, "The harder you squeeze the more sand that slips through your fingers" comes to mind. Without debunkers, Nancy is nothing.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Current membership stands at 693 (which is far, far lower than it's peak at over a couple thousand).

Nancy is slowly becoming more and more irrelevant and her true believers are dwindling. There's only a few consistent posters to the ning (Flareberto, Zwaan, Howard, khan, and Nancy).

Gerard's posting are essentially a regurgitation of Nancy's rants (personally, I don't think Gerard has a voice of his own). Khan's are doom and glooms of whatever natural event occurs be it flooding, landslides, and supposed land sinkings.

I'm surprised that Nancy hasn't been pushing harder to keep her few sheep within the pen - maybe she's just running out of steam and ideas. There's only so many ways you can twist things before you find yourself saying basically the same thing with different wording.

At this rate, I see the ning falling apart after the start of the new year. Either that, or she'll come up with a more fantastic 'white lie' to cover her failures.
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