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Poleshit-Nancy realy has an entertaining talent:

Jupiter Tilting! The Zetas Explain

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1


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The "Zetas" couldn't explain their way out of a wet paper bag.
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Wrong again, "Gay Boy" ...Where on Earth is there better comedy?

I'm here and ever better prepared... See now, We were right all along. O yeah I forgot...Being color blind is sure a hinderance. Isn't it. have a merry little one and be kind to Alberto, the pics are in as you ordered for them...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25700344


Right about what exactly? "Planet X" is still nowhere to be seen. If you think it is, provide verifiable proof of this. Lens flare photos will not suffice. Why hasn't ONE believer gotten a telescope, learned how to properly take photos with it and then done so? Care to explain that one? Believers have had 10 years to put their money where their mouth is. Heck, they even had the opportunity to use a professional grade observatory to search for and document "Planet X" and NONE of you took Hap up on his offer. Why? The only reason I can think of is fear. Fear of finding out what you already knew deep down all along - that "Planet X" isn't there.

Nice to know you're still around Luser - and just as stupid.

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I feel so sorry for you guys. Melfy ran rings around you and now he's gone you realise how miserable and banal your lives really are. There's nothing worse on this planet than a self appointed smart ass but you all seem to be convinced of your genius. The tone of some of the response s are breathtaking.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


If by losing EVERY argument, then yes, he ran rings around us. Apparently, facts and logic escape you.
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Their final answer is that my content does not belong on their site. So they go and shut it down and trash all my previous videos. How much do you want to bet it was one of Nancy's who reported it as inappropriate content? I've been webcasting with them for a long time now, never had a problem. Now I have a meager 30 viewers and they suddenly notice it and shut it down because it's not a video game? Not likely. The decision was theirs, of course, but I'm betting someone else alerted them to it. The report button is easy to get to...
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


It wouldn't surprise me a bit. We know Nancy gets ban happy and deletes posts...and to think she has the gall to accuse US of hiding the truth.

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Keep dream'n - it's what you're good at ...
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So are you - dreaming of doom.
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BAD SHILL!!!! STOP IT!!!!
SIT....
GOOD SHILL!!!!.........Astromut was such a fitting name.. lol

shill
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30387986


Care to prove that he's wrong?


Yeah, I thought not. Who's the shill now? Yeah, that would be you.
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It's strange how Nancy and her supporters state that they are against censorship, but then are the first to celebrate it.
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And then accuse "debunkers" of hiding the truth. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Believers have had 10 years to put their money where their mouth is. Heck, they even had the opportunity to use a professional grade observatory to search for and document "Planet X" and NONE of you took Hap up on his offer. Why? The only reason I can think of is fear. Fear of finding out what you already knew deep down all along - that "Planet X" isn't there.

Nice to know you're still around Luser - and just as stupid.

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 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


+1000

Dec. 21 now in Germany

Let the DOOM begin.

weltuntergang

 Quoting: Hydra


Glad you guys made it... phew!
During that 3 nanoseconds of darkness and the following 90° shift in the fourth nanosecond (and its reversal back to normal in the fifth ns) was really a bumpy ride!!
For a moment I thought I might not be able to make it, but fortunately it seems more than 90% survived!

Then the spectacular PX appearance that went unnoticed by many (except Flareberto)!! Simply Amazing!

I don't know what you guys have gone through, but I am glad that Nancy saved me from the horrible "poleshift".

Zetas right again!
1rof11rof11rof11rof1loser

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[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Check this one:

"Comment by ann s. 20 hours ago

A few months ago professional debunker Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) loudly announced he was being forced to stop posting at Godlike Productions (GLP) due to vague, unproven threats. (Funny how actual, repeated death threats and attacks -- PS ning blog about remote viewers -- have not stopped Nancy Lieder's and others' unpaid efforts to get the truth out to the common man about Planet X.)

But alleged threats did not prevent Dr. Astro from going out of his way to try and disprove the clear evidence Jupiter and Saturn are tilting far beyond anything explainable by human science. His attempt to very quickly debunk ZetaTalk failed when his live, online astronomy program was supposedly taken down for no good reason.

Here is why I think Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) was so anxious to "debunk" what we know to be true about Jupiter and Saturn based on recent, undeniable, physical evidence:

Neither Dr. Astro nor anyone else can blame signs in the solar system on Earth's "global warming"!

So, once again, Dr. Astro -- like many other professional and amateur debunkers have done in the past -- rushed to "debunk" the best astronomical and signs in the sky evidence that the Zetas are right again!
"



Its just like this one:
NL (1995): Hale-Bopp is a hoax.
SA (1995): No, it's a comet. We can see it.
NL (1995): No, you can't, you're part of the hoax. It's an exploding star.
SA (1997): We have two years of tracking data. It's a comet.
NL (1997): No, NASA is slipping in tracking data to deceive you and align with a real comet.
SA (1997): Yes, it's a real comet!
NL (2002): You only think I was wrong, but really I was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
SA (2002): ???
[link to www.youtube.com]

More simply:

NL: asdasibasdhasbdo
You: ????
NL: You only think im wrong, but I really was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
You: the fuck?


oh well... have fun waiting for that PoleShift.
At some point, they will only believe what they want anyway.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/21/2012 08:44 AM
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[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Check this one:

"Comment by ann s. 20 hours ago

A few months ago professional debunker Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) loudly announced he was being forced to stop posting at Godlike Productions (GLP) due to vague, unproven threats. (Funny how actual, repeated death threats and attacks -- PS ning blog about remote viewers -- have not stopped Nancy Lieder's and others' unpaid efforts to get the truth out to the common man about Planet X.)

But alleged threats did not prevent Dr. Astro from going out of his way to try and disprove the clear evidence Jupiter and Saturn are tilting far beyond anything explainable by human science. His attempt to very quickly debunk ZetaTalk failed when his live, online astronomy program was supposedly taken down for no good reason.

Here is why I think Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) was so anxious to "debunk" what we know to be true about Jupiter and Saturn based on recent, undeniable, physical evidence:

Neither Dr. Astro nor anyone else can blame signs in the solar system on Earth's "global warming"!

So, once again, Dr. Astro -- like many other professional and amateur debunkers have done in the past -- rushed to "debunk" the best astronomical and signs in the sky evidence that the Zetas are right again!
"



Its just like this one:
NL (1995): Hale-Bopp is a hoax.
SA (1995): No, it's a comet. We can see it.
NL (1995): No, you can't, you're part of the hoax. It's an exploding star.
SA (1997): We have two years of tracking data. It's a comet.
NL (1997): No, NASA is slipping in tracking data to deceive you and align with a real comet.
SA (1997): Yes, it's a real comet!
NL (2002): You only think I was wrong, but really I was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
SA (2002): ???


More simply:

NL: asdasibasdhasbdo
You: ????
NL: You only think im wrong, but I really was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
You: the fuck?


oh well... have fun waiting for that PoleShift.
At some point, they will only believe what they want anyway.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Supposedly taken down? Supposedly? It WAS taken down!
[link to justin.tv]
I guess whichever one of the zetatards reported it though there was a "good reason," in fact her post reads like gloating. Oh well, I had the last laugh:
Thread: December 21st Solstice PARTAY! Come see live video of Saturn! The rings are not "tilted!" *Thanks for coming!*
It's a shame the weather didn't clear in time to catch Jupiter, but I can do that later.
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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
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A SHILL'S paradise
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YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
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Adults huh? Sounds like a real mature announcement. Tell me, did you set up your telescope starting at 4 in the morning to see if Saturn was oddly tilted or not? No, you did not. Where's your research?

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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Adults huh? Sounds like a real mature announcement. Tell me, did you set up your telescope starting at 4 in the morning to see if Saturn was oddly tilted or not? No, you did not. Where's your research?

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We're ruled by the global elite.

El = Saturn

Elites = Saturnites

starting to see the connections of the mystery religions in all of this? saturn worship is a part of it.
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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Adults huh? Sounds like a real mature announcement. Tell me, did you set up your telescope starting at 4 in the morning to see if Saturn was oddly tilted or not? No, you did not. Where's your research?

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We're ruled by the global elite.

El = Saturn

Elites = Saturnites

starting to see the connections of the mystery religions in all of this? saturn worship is a part of it.
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I'm sorry, I missed the part where you actually did research on this claim that Saturn is oddly tilted?
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I wont be able to reply until the 23rd due to the autobanning of some countries when they post, but I can safely say that as its now Saturday the 22nd in the year of the dog 2012

or as we ozzies would put it 22/12/2012...


so far the world ending on the 21st was a major disappointment...

one good thing- I got `panic sex' so to all the zetatards that are still virgins
(that is to say.... all of the zetatards)

nah nah ne nah nah

(sticks out tongue and blows a raspberry at them)

(but then I get it every night, unlike the desperate `lusers' that are living in their bunkers sans families and wives...


How's that working out for you my Canadian `friend'???

I must say I am shocked and horrified by the fact that luser and melfy actually share the same sexual partner...

Mrs palmer

but I hope you aren't having relations with her daughters as well melfy...


sadly I suspect you are..
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[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Check this one:

"Comment by ann s. 20 hours ago

A few months ago professional debunker Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) loudly announced he was being forced to stop posting at Godlike Productions (GLP) due to vague, unproven threats. (Funny how actual, repeated death threats and attacks -- PS ning blog about remote viewers -- have not stopped Nancy Lieder's and others' unpaid efforts to get the truth out to the common man about Planet X.)

But alleged threats did not prevent Dr. Astro from going out of his way to try and disprove the clear evidence Jupiter and Saturn are tilting far beyond anything explainable by human science. His attempt to very quickly debunk ZetaTalk failed when his live, online astronomy program was supposedly taken down for no good reason.

Here is why I think Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) was so anxious to "debunk" what we know to be true about Jupiter and Saturn based on recent, undeniable, physical evidence:

Neither Dr. Astro nor anyone else can blame signs in the solar system on Earth's "global warming"!

So, once again, Dr. Astro -- like many other professional and amateur debunkers have done in the past -- rushed to "debunk" the best astronomical and signs in the sky evidence that the Zetas are right again!
"



Its just like this one:
NL (1995): Hale-Bopp is a hoax.
SA (1995): No, it's a comet. We can see it.
NL (1995): No, you can't, you're part of the hoax. It's an exploding star.
SA (1997): We have two years of tracking data. It's a comet.
NL (1997): No, NASA is slipping in tracking data to deceive you and align with a real comet.
SA (1997): Yes, it's a real comet!
NL (2002): You only think I was wrong, but really I was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
SA (2002): ???
[link to www.youtube.com]

More simply:

NL: asdasibasdhasbdo
You: ????
NL: You only think im wrong, but I really was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
You: the fuck?


oh well... have fun waiting for that PoleShift.
At some point, they will only believe what they want anyway.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Proof positive that the morons on the ning DO come here and monitor what goes on here. Too bad they can't think for themselves. Oh well. Ann S. will still be waiting for "Planet X" 20 years from now. You simply can't fix stupid.
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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Real research? Well, that certainly wouldn't be coming from you. We've been asking people like you to provide REAL evidence of "Planet X" for 10 years. NONE of you have ever done it. Afraid much?
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A SHILL'S paradise
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I guess that's why you're here. How much does Nancy pay you? Are the benefits good? Does she give you paid time off for the "pole shift?"
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Actually, that's an incorrect statement. Here's how it REALLY works:

Debunker: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?

Woo-woo: Here's our conclusion, what facts can we find or make up to support it?

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 12/21/2012 09:36 AM
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Hi CB!
Take care, okay...

Peace
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Actually, that's an incorrect statement. Here's how it REALLY works:

Debunker: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?

Woo-woo: Here's our conclusion, what facts can we find or make up to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Exactly. And there goes the problem:
You, Anonymous Coward, aren't objective either.
YOU start with the initial assumption that THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE, a huge conspiracy, a massive coverup or whatever.
Next you go all over the web to cherry-pick information that fits in your picture and you will surely find it!

The internet has everything to offer but it ain't always describing reality.
A neutral-standpoint, "Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them", sounds like the right approach, doesn't it?

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/21/2012 11:15 AM
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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/21/2012 11:52 AM
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But correct.
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
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Attempt to poison the well noted.

Sorry, you're wrong. When I started, I didn't know if Nancy was right or not. But as I looked into it, and saw she had to come up with more and more varied excuses for why her predictions didn't pan out, and that cornerstones of her idea contradicted observations I could make myself, I came to the conclusion that she was not only wrong, but galactically wrong.

You have no evidence that any of Nancy's detractors started from any assumptions whatsoever.
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Ann, I don't believe we have ever communicated directly. However, should you have the courage, I would enjoy dialoging with you about a single thing:

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

 Quoting: AnnS via MoreAboutTunnelVision


How high are said odds? And how long are you willing to wait as the announcement continues to fail to occur?
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Actually, that's an incorrect statement. Here's how it REALLY works:

Debunker: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?

Woo-woo: Here's our conclusion, what facts can we find or make up to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Exactly. And there goes the problem:
You, Anonymous Coward, aren't objective either.
YOU start with the initial assumption that THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE, a huge conspiracy, a massive coverup or whatever.
Next you go all over the web to cherry-pick information that fits in your picture and you will surely find it!

The internet has everything to offer but it ain't always describing reality.
A neutral-standpoint, "Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them", sounds like the right approach, doesn't it?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


yeah, right.

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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


ts, ts, getting nervous?

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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


ts, ts, getting nervous?

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30395743


Nope. I was able to see Saturn through a telescope two nights ago, and it was exactly as predicted. The people who are claiming abnormal tilts in Saturn and Jupiter don't understand the difference between Az-Alt and Polar aligned mounts.

Woo thrives in the darkness of ignorance gaps.


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