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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Adults huh? Sounds like a real mature announcement. Tell me, did you set up your telescope starting at 4 in the morning to see if Saturn was oddly tilted or not? No, you did not. Where's your research?

 Quoting: Dr. Astro


We're ruled by the global elite.

El = Saturn

Elites = Saturnites

starting to see the connections of the mystery religions in all of this? saturn worship is a part of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


I'm sorry, I missed the part where you actually did research on this claim that Saturn is oddly tilted?
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I wont be able to reply until the 23rd due to the autobanning of some countries when they post, but I can safely say that as its now Saturday the 22nd in the year of the dog 2012

or as we ozzies would put it 22/12/2012...


so far the world ending on the 21st was a major disappointment...

one good thing- I got `panic sex' so to all the zetatards that are still virgins
(that is to say.... all of the zetatards)

nah nah ne nah nah

(sticks out tongue and blows a raspberry at them)

(but then I get it every night, unlike the desperate `lusers' that are living in their bunkers sans families and wives...


How's that working out for you my Canadian `friend'???

I must say I am shocked and horrified by the fact that luser and melfy actually share the same sexual partner...

Mrs palmer

but I hope you aren't having relations with her daughters as well melfy...


sadly I suspect you are..
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[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Check this one:

"Comment by ann s. 20 hours ago

A few months ago professional debunker Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) loudly announced he was being forced to stop posting at Godlike Productions (GLP) due to vague, unproven threats. (Funny how actual, repeated death threats and attacks -- PS ning blog about remote viewers -- have not stopped Nancy Lieder's and others' unpaid efforts to get the truth out to the common man about Planet X.)

But alleged threats did not prevent Dr. Astro from going out of his way to try and disprove the clear evidence Jupiter and Saturn are tilting far beyond anything explainable by human science. His attempt to very quickly debunk ZetaTalk failed when his live, online astronomy program was supposedly taken down for no good reason.

Here is why I think Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) was so anxious to "debunk" what we know to be true about Jupiter and Saturn based on recent, undeniable, physical evidence:

Neither Dr. Astro nor anyone else can blame signs in the solar system on Earth's "global warming"!

So, once again, Dr. Astro -- like many other professional and amateur debunkers have done in the past -- rushed to "debunk" the best astronomical and signs in the sky evidence that the Zetas are right again!
"



Its just like this one:
NL (1995): Hale-Bopp is a hoax.
SA (1995): No, it's a comet. We can see it.
NL (1995): No, you can't, you're part of the hoax. It's an exploding star.
SA (1997): We have two years of tracking data. It's a comet.
NL (1997): No, NASA is slipping in tracking data to deceive you and align with a real comet.
SA (1997): Yes, it's a real comet!
NL (2002): You only think I was wrong, but really I was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
SA (2002): ???
[link to www.youtube.com]

More simply:

NL: asdasibasdhasbdo
You: ????
NL: You only think im wrong, but I really was lying to you, so the Zetas were right again!
You: the fuck?


oh well... have fun waiting for that PoleShift.
At some point, they will only believe what they want anyway.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Proof positive that the morons on the ning DO come here and monitor what goes on here. Too bad they can't think for themselves. Oh well. Ann S. will still be waiting for "Planet X" 20 years from now. You simply can't fix stupid.
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YOU ARE ALL LOSERS. RETURN TO YOUR RACE CAR BEDS WHILE THE ADULTS USE THIS FORUM TO DO REAL RESEARCH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Real research? Well, that certainly wouldn't be coming from you. We've been asking people like you to provide REAL evidence of "Planet X" for 10 years. NONE of you have ever done it. Afraid much?
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A SHILL'S paradise
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I guess that's why you're here. How much does Nancy pay you? Are the benefits good? Does she give you paid time off for the "pole shift?"
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Actually, that's an incorrect statement. Here's how it REALLY works:

Debunker: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?

Woo-woo: Here's our conclusion, what facts can we find or make up to support it?

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 12/21/2012 09:36 AM
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Hi CB!
Take care, okay...

Peace
Om Tare Tuttare Ture Svaha
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Actually, that's an incorrect statement. Here's how it REALLY works:

Debunker: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?

Woo-woo: Here's our conclusion, what facts can we find or make up to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Exactly. And there goes the problem:
You, Anonymous Coward, aren't objective either.
YOU start with the initial assumption that THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE, a huge conspiracy, a massive coverup or whatever.
Next you go all over the web to cherry-pick information that fits in your picture and you will surely find it!

The internet has everything to offer but it ain't always describing reality.
A neutral-standpoint, "Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them", sounds like the right approach, doesn't it?

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/21/2012 11:15 AM
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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 12/21/2012 11:52 AM
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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS.
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But correct.
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Attempt to poison the well noted.

Sorry, you're wrong. When I started, I didn't know if Nancy was right or not. But as I looked into it, and saw she had to come up with more and more varied excuses for why her predictions didn't pan out, and that cornerstones of her idea contradicted observations I could make myself, I came to the conclusion that she was not only wrong, but galactically wrong.

You have no evidence that any of Nancy's detractors started from any assumptions whatsoever.
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Ann, I don't believe we have ever communicated directly. However, should you have the courage, I would enjoy dialoging with you about a single thing:

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

 Quoting: AnnS via MoreAboutTunnelVision


How high are said odds? And how long are you willing to wait as the announcement continues to fail to occur?
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LOL LOL LOL

I WAS WATCHING CNN A FEW YEARS BACK AND ONE OF THE CONSPIRACY GUYS ON THERE TALKING ABOUT UFOS PWNED THE DEBUNKER BY SAYING "SKEPTICS LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. DEBUNKERS DON'T LOOK FOR THE TRUTH. THEY START WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THERES NOTHING TO THIS AND THEY WORK FROM THERE."

PERFECT DESCRIPTION OF DUH-BUNKERS! READY TO ADMIT YOU AREN'T THE RATIONALISTS YOU CLAIM TO BE? IT ISN'T RATIONAL TO START WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S NO CONSPIRACY IS IT????
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20216553


Actually, that's an incorrect statement. Here's how it REALLY works:

Debunker: Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them?

Woo-woo: Here's our conclusion, what facts can we find or make up to support it?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Exactly. And there goes the problem:
You, Anonymous Coward, aren't objective either.
YOU start with the initial assumption that THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE, a huge conspiracy, a massive coverup or whatever.
Next you go all over the web to cherry-pick information that fits in your picture and you will surely find it!

The internet has everything to offer but it ain't always describing reality.
A neutral-standpoint, "Here are the facts, what conclusion can we draw from them", sounds like the right approach, doesn't it?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


yeah, right.

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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


ts, ts, getting nervous?

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


ts, ts, getting nervous?

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30395743


Nope. I was able to see Saturn through a telescope two nights ago, and it was exactly as predicted. The people who are claiming abnormal tilts in Saturn and Jupiter don't understand the difference between Az-Alt and Polar aligned mounts.

Woo thrives in the darkness of ignorance gaps.
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More interesting is this part:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago
David dIcke discussion forum enters the fray, on the RIGHT side of truth.
[link to www.glp_hater]

And the Examiner too!
[link to www.examiner.com]


[I fixed the shortened links]

The Examiner author, Barbara Schneider [link to www.examiner.com] , is definitely a Poleshit-member.

Thus the poleshit.ning makes it's own "Examiner news" and refers to it at the poleshit.ning.

Nice circular reasoning.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Offensive and defamatory, what else is new? Psychotic too; the largest planets in the solar system are tilting 90 degrees in a day and then go right back to exactly normal a day later? Has she never heard of rotational inertia? And yes ann, my account was banned. I didn't make that shit up. Would you like me to forward you the email from customer support? Thanks for proving how little you understand about physics and admitting you'll ignore any evidence that shows the tilt is normal because it's magically only normal when an amateur astronomer like me looks at it.
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Holy cow. And I thought Ptolemaic Astronomy was complicated...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

The machinations they have to go through explaining the supposed halted Earth are stunning.
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And they are calling the charts "useful". Heh... they are incomprehensible and completely contradictory.
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More interesting is this part:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago
David dIcke discussion forum enters the fray, on the RIGHT side of truth.
[link to www.glp_hater]

And the Examiner too!
[link to www.examiner.com]


[I fixed the shortened links]

The Examiner author, Barbara Schneider [link to www.examiner.com] , is definitely a Poleshit-member.

Thus the poleshit.ning makes it's own "Examiner news" and refers to it at the poleshit.ning.

Nice circular reasoning.


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It's kinda creepy how these sites which allow user input are used to support false claims.
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More interesting is this part:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago
David dIcke discussion forum enters the fray, on the RIGHT side of truth.
[link to www.glp_hater]

And the Examiner too!
[link to www.examiner.com]


[I fixed the shortened links]

The Examiner author, Barbara Schneider [link to www.examiner.com] , is definitely a Poleshit-member.

Thus the poleshit.ning makes it's own "Examiner news" and refers to it at the poleshit.ning.

Nice circular reasoning.


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 Quoting: Hydra


Indeed!

Astromut, those guys are *requesting* someone like you, too!

Again, Denise Chavez-Goforth needs your help to confirm what she has seen. If you have a telescope, you can assist her in getting images of the planets so that she can verify the images she has.
 Quoting: Examiner.com


[link to www.examiner.com]

Well, they asked for them, specifically. The least you can do is provide them... though I expect they may be unhappy with the result...
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How does someone as delusional as Ann function on a daily bases?

FREAKING AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ann it's not 2003 it didn't happen!

Ann it's 2012 guess what IT STILL DIDN'T HAPPEN!!

What excuse did LIEder give you this time Ann??????

PX is NOT HERE! According to LIEder all of us should have been able to see it a long time ago SO WHERE IS IT?!!!

JUST SHOW US EVIDENCE not word babble or your normal circle jerk SHOW US the evidence! FYI your buddies pictures through a hokey filter is NOT EVIDENCE show us something from an independent source that's not one of your ning buddies!
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One more question for Ann: Have you personally communicated with theses Zetas?
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ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL DEBUNKERS

YOU ARE ALL LOSERS.
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Considering the 100% success-rate of the debunkers and the 100% failure-rate of the Miss Lieder, it should be rather obvious who's the loser.
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Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

And if they don't they'd be gods.
Which is of course what the Zetas are in the minds of the Zetaheads.
Zetaism is a religion in all but name.
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It rots the mind and blackens the heart.


Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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Oh gawd.
Ann S. obviously wants to communicate with us...(and sending people our way) and this response is so.... um, I dont know where to start:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 1 hour ago

The professional debunkers (who actually know Planet X is real but pretend otherwise) and the amateur debunkers (even sadder as they are not even paid to debunk ZetaTalk) continue to misinterpret or read whatever they want into ZetaTalk. Ever noticed that?

It is not the case that the Zetas said Jupiter and Saturn will ALWAYS be tilting beyond what is normally explainable.

It is the same with the earth's wobble, which changes and is not ALWAYS the same.

It is all about magnetism: The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Saturn, for example, could be tilting or on its side one day and conceivably return to normal.

Professional debunker Dr. Astro (who conveniently came out of his self-imposed retirement to debunk the latest amazing evidence the Zetas are right again!) may manage to get his alleged photographic or video evidence everything is normal with the gas giant planets only on the days or times when they are not tilting.

So Dr. Astro's alleged evidence that BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are never, ever tilting beyond what is normal is simply not proof those planets never tilt or fall over.

Furthermore, there is no direct evidence Dr. Astro's alleged attempt to honestly prove Jupiter was not tilting was taken down by anyone. The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose. (They are professional liars.)

It is possible the reason Dr. Astro's alleged recent attempt to prove Jupiter is/was not tilting was deliberately aborted because he was going to accidentally prove Jupiter is/was tilting. Oh, no, can't have that! (A comment at GLP indicated this could have been the case, as he or she noted Jupiter was tilting before Astromut's astronomy show ended.)

All of this will not matter soon enough because the odds are high that NASA is going to announce Planet X is real and has been in the vicinity for years.

Then all the debunkers at GLP and elsewhere will disappear or come back with new screen names to become instant "experts" on the subject they just were claiming is fiction: Planet X!

One of the debunkers at GLP continues to make the same mistake. Please keep it up. Thanks!



Ok, lets try to make a start here:

There never has been any earth wobble!
You can simply verify this by making a timelapse of the sky and check the stars for a wobble!
All the alleged "wobble" on LISS (traveling of seismic waves around the globe) or on FY-2D images were completly debunked!!

And this,
"The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison; so human explanations about magnetism need to be taken with a grain of salt."

What the fuck? Unable to see the trick here?
Aliens oblique the same physical rules as we do.
There's nothing beyond human understanding there,
its simply a technique to let yo avoid conflicts with RATIONAL-, LOGIC-thinking.

Then this one,
"The professional debunkers have access to equipment, software, and resources no ordinary person has, so these people can make things appear almost anyway they choose."

Have you still not learned anything about Nancy's tactics?
So you still believe Lothar, Ken, T, Maria and others are "government-blackops"???

Maybe you should have jumped into the cold water like I did and find out for yourself wether its true or not.
You'd be suprised.

And why don't YOU go verify your claims? Grab a telescope, study the topic and present something solid instead of the whacky interpretations of the infamous LIEder.


You're so distracted by assumptions like that whole "paid-debunker-BS", the "black-ops-BS" and the "never-occuring-announcement" that you totally miss to simply take one piece and ANALYSE IT.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


ts, ts, getting nervous?

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30395743


Nope. I was able to see Saturn through a telescope two nights ago, and it was exactly as predicted. The people who are claiming abnormal tilts in Saturn and Jupiter don't understand the difference between Az-Alt and Polar aligned mounts.

Woo thrives in the darkness of ignorance gaps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Yeah, two(?) people claiming and some official NASA helioviewer pictures showing the tilting in an animation [1:05 to 1:45].

[link to www.youtube.com]


But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
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Indeed!

Astromut, those guys are *requesting* someone like you, too!

Again, Denise Chavez-Goforth needs your help to confirm what she has seen. If you have a telescope, you can assist her in getting images of the planets so that she can verify the images she has.
 Quoting: Examiner.com


[link to www.examiner.com]

Well, they asked for them, specifically. The least you can do is provide them... though I expect they may be unhappy with the result...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I don't believe you think like the Zetadrones.

She is asking for help in "confirming" her delusion, not is disconfirming. Any evidence contrary to her delusion is not welcome. She states it quite plainly.

She repeats that the images she wants are those that will "verify" her delusion. Any images that contradict her lunacy will be rejected.

Such is Teh Way of teh kOOk.

... but of course you know this after all this time, you just disengaged your crazy gear when reading the zeta-screed.

- Never disengage your crazy gear when reading crazy or you will misinterpret the crazy.

Have fun.


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Exactly. And there goes the problem:
You, Anonymous Coward, aren't objective either.
YOU start with the initial assumption that THERE'S SOMETHING OUT THERE, a huge conspiracy, a massive coverup or whatever.
Next you go all over the web to cherry-pick information that fits in your picture and you will surely find it!
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


+1000
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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The Zetas' knowledge is so far beyond human science there is almost no comparison
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And yet the "Zetas" can't get even ONE thing right. Some knowledge.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Yeah, two(?) people claiming and some official NASA helioviewer pictures showing the tilting in an animation [1:05 to 1:45].

[link to www.youtube.com]


But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30395743


I think there is a difference between stupid and ignorant. The 'tilt' crowd is merely ignorant. If they attended a local Star Party for about an hour of yakking with the Amateurs, most of their questions and concerns could be answered.

But, for the true-believer, that effort is far too much. To actually have to learn about these things, rather than listen to kooks on the Internet? To challenge the belief system they have adopted, and hold onto so dearly? To admit their belief is wrong?

The horror.
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A question to all the Poleshit.ningers reading here:

I have a question to the Zetas - perhaps one of you can forward it to Poleshit-Nancy.

"Gerard Zwaan, admin of the poleshit.ning and vivid poster of doom videos, is living in Katwijk, Netherlands just 150m away from the shore of the North Sea.
According to the Zetas this area is hit by tsunamis and flooded during the pole shift.
Since the Earth tilt is imminent (Saturn tilted, Jupiter tilted, Mars tilted, next is Earth), will the Zetas be able to "beam" him up and drop him in a save location?"



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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A question to all the Poleshit.ningers reading here:

I have a question to the Zetas - perhaps one of you can forward it to Poleshit-Nancy.

"Gerard Zwaan, admin of the poleshit.ning and vivid poster of doom videos, is living in Katwijk, Netherlands just 150m away from the shore of the North Sea.
According to the Zetas this area is hit by tsunamis and flooded during the pole shift.
Since the Earth tilt is imminent (Saturn tilted, Jupiter tilted, Mars tilted, next is Earth), will the Zetas be able to "beam" him up and drop him in a save location?"



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 Quoting: Hydra


I would also like to know what all the poleshitters are going to do when ultimately Nancy is revealed as just a psychotic old woman with schizoid personality disorder, or even worse a scam artist who fleeced them out of their money and even worst wasted a large amount of the past ten years defending the charlatan.

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