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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
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That depends. Most are just mis-informed. However, if they choose to ignore the truth THEN they're either ignorant or stupid.
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So whatever happened to Volar? Would have liked to see him eating a bit of crow...
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Oh, and lest I forget...Zetamax!

My mission here is to show that there is enough ballast in this boat to keep it FLOATING - if not cruising at full speed. It's PLAUSIBLE if not "provable" AT THIS TIME. Now in five years, if nothing has happened, then we can write the final chapter on Zetatalk.
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[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Enjoy writing that final chapter. TODAY is that five year anniversary.

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Writing such a "final" chapter will take TIME. Please be reasonable and give me to the 22nd of December to produce such a "tome".
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...tapping watch.
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More interesting is this part:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago
David dIcke discussion forum enters the fray, on the RIGHT side of truth.
[link to www.glp_hater]

And the Examiner too!
[link to www.examiner.com]


[I fixed the shortened links]

The Examiner author, Barbara Schneider [link to www.examiner.com] , is definitely a Poleshit-member.

Thus the poleshit.ning makes it's own "Examiner news" and refers to it at the poleshit.ning.

Nice circular reasoning.


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Barbara Schneider is definitely one the 'true believers' - as for being a member of the ning, she's not (I couldn't any member with her name or even location on the ning).



Now here's a list of the articles she's published:

Countdown to 'Last Weeks': What is going on with Jupiter and Saturn (12/20/2012)

(Gerard left a comment on the above article).

Poleshift has begun on outer planets and Chavez-Goforth needs help to prove it (12/20/2012)

Nancy Lieder, the Zetas, Planet X, and manifest clues (12/19/2012)

UFO picture by New Hampshire resident trying to shoot pictures of Planet X (12/9/2012)

Who would benefit the most by spraying chemtrails to prevent Planet X sightings (12/8/2012)

What do Planet X, Dec 21, 2012 and military have in common? (12/5/2012)

Search for cause of Indianapolis explosion begins and ends with Planet X (11/11/2012)


If Nancy is using articles from the examiner as proof of her claims, she's getting real desperate.

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More interesting is this part:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago
David dIcke discussion forum enters the fray, on the RIGHT side of truth.
[link to www.glp_hater]

And the Examiner too!
[link to www.examiner.com]


[I fixed the shortened links]

The Examiner author, Barbara Schneider [link to www.examiner.com] , is definitely a Poleshit-member.

Thus the poleshit.ning makes it's own "Examiner news" and refers to it at the poleshit.ning.

Nice circular reasoning.


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Indeed!

Astromut, those guys are *requesting* someone like you, too!

Again, Denise Chavez-Goforth needs your help to confirm what she has seen. If you have a telescope, you can assist her in getting images of the planets so that she can verify the images she has.
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Well, they asked for them, specifically. The least you can do is provide them... though I expect they may be unhappy with the result...
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I sent it to her with a very inconspicuous sounding description. She won't like the result when she opens it and sees the true orientation of Saturn though.
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More interesting is this part:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 6 hours ago
David dIcke discussion forum enters the fray, on the RIGHT side of truth.
[link to www.glp_hater]

And the Examiner too!
[link to www.examiner.com]


[I fixed the shortened links]

The Examiner author, Barbara Schneider [link to www.examiner.com] , is definitely a Poleshit-member.

Thus the poleshit.ning makes it's own "Examiner news" and refers to it at the poleshit.ning.

Nice circular reasoning.


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Indeed!

Astromut, those guys are *requesting* someone like you, too!

Again, Denise Chavez-Goforth needs your help to confirm what she has seen. If you have a telescope, you can assist her in getting images of the planets so that she can verify the images she has.
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[link to www.examiner.com]

Well, they asked for them, specifically. The least you can do is provide them... though I expect they may be unhappy with the result...
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I sent it to her with a very inconspicuous sounding description. She won't like the result when she opens it and sees the true orientation of Saturn though.
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Astro, you rock.
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Writing such a "final" chapter will take TIME. Please be reasonable and give me to the 22nd of December to produce such a "tome".
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So, you'll be posting it by the end of today? Or will it still be forthcoming like your detailed piece about palm fronds and huge oil reserves in the arctic that we're still waiting for?

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Well, here it is - December 22, 2012. Nowhere on Earth is it still the 21st. A lot of doomsayers have egg on their face...Nancy included. But then Nancy has had egg on her face for 10 years so this isn't surprising really. I'd love to hear what IDW's excuse is for his failed doom.
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Well, here it is - December 22, 2012. Nowhere on Earth is it still the 21st. A lot of doomsayers have egg on their face...Nancy included. But then Nancy has had egg on her face for 10 years so this isn't surprising really. I'd love to hear what IDW's excuse is for his failed doom.
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Well, so far IDW hasn't shown up on his thread since his early morning ad hominem attack on Astromut on the 21st. As the time came and went, he's been quite silent.

I suppose we'll see.
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Yesterday was a totally unremarkable day as I knew it would be, since the 2012 craze was based on lack of knowledge about the Mayans and a wrong correlation, and lots of ideas that were made up by doom merchants like Nancy, Candace and David Wilcox in order to control others and take their money. Hopefully the people that gave in to the craze will re evaluate and abandon their quest for doom, but we all know that some of them will come up with excuses and twist reality to fit their delusions. Some of them have invested too much in 2012 doom to stop now.
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Yesterday was a totally unremarkable day as I knew it would be, since the 2012 craze was based on lack of knowledge about the Mayans and a wrong correlation, and lots of ideas that were made up by doom merchants like Nancy, Candace and David Wilcox in order to control others and take their money. Hopefully the people that gave in to the craze will re evaluate and abandon their quest for doom, but we all know that some of them will come up with excuses and twist reality to fit their delusions. Some of them have invested too much in 2012 doom to stop now.
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Agreed. Some I have known from the Y2K days are STILL braced for impact, convinced all the technology will break any moment now.

I've mentioned it before, I'll mention it again: When Prophecy Fails by Festinger. The pattern is remarkable, but is a warning to all of us: we can all fall for stuff like this. Critical Thinking remains the only defense.

And if I haven't said it recently: a big thanks to all the debunkers and critical thinkers here at GLP and elsewhere.
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And just in case IDW petitions the mods to take it down of the Solar Data Page thread:



So we come to the date at last, wherein A.A/IDW's nemesis and worst enemy stands nakedly exposed and revealed:

Himself.

He can blame it on me, on other 'agents,' or any number of other scapegoats. I'm sure he'd like that. But that's not the truth.

IDW/A.A's own ego is his kryptonite -- his ego repeatedly writes checks that his brain is unable to cash. His pattern has been repeated so often that I remain surprised that a psychological condition hasn't been named after him. Though, to be honest, there probably already is a name for such a malady that I am merely unaware of. Certainly a delusion of grandeur is a component of it.

IDW/A.A would not accept a certain challenge from me -- actually there is any number of challenges I made that resulted in nothing but his running away. Many of those made the giant List of What IDW Knows, which is to be reposted shortly.

Since his highly-certain predicted disasters have not materialized, it is proof positive that his near certain claims demand the strictest scrutiny; that contrary to what IDW/A.A has repeatedly said and demonstrated, his claims should require a terrifically high standard of proof and evidence. Even higher now that his ironclad 98.5% prediction has utterly failed to materialize.

Perhaps IDW/A.A will take this as a positive experience, and learn from it. Maybe he WILL learn something of how the scientific method is supposed to work. Maybe he WILL look at all his biases and preconceived notions and beliefs, and critically reexamine them. Maybe he WILL learn all those different kinds of logical fallacies, and learn to control his penchant for falling back to them so quickly and readily. Maybe he will learn not to exaggerate so much. Maybe he will learn not to attack so much. Maybe he'll learn to control his temper. Maybe he will learn to separate his IDEA from his sense of SELF.

But then again, maybe not. His past performance casts doubt on this ever occurring, or these lessons sinking in, no matter how often they've been repeated.

IDW/A.A's cosmology has been dealt a fatal setback. In traditional science, that would mean either a major reworking of the idea, or simply scrapping it altogether and starting from scratch. Whether that's how it works in IDWscience only he knows. And as to how he proceeds from this point of dismal failure is up to him. But for me, it merely means ever *higher* standards of proof when scrutinizing his ideas. After all, I do not believe what I am told without proof -- so, given past performance, IDW/A.A should learn how to traditionally supply a LOT of proof, step by step, and line by line, while losing the rhetoric and the attitude.

Perhaps then he could contribute something positive. I'd like to see that, honestly. But won't be surprised if I don't.

So, without further ado: The Newly Updated List of what IDW Knows.
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The REALLY-THERE-*CAN'T*-BE-ANY-MORE NEW Updated Big List of What IDW Knows, version 6.02 (December, 12) (Part I)

IDW knows the radiation dose calculations. He just won´t show YOU. And he CONTINUES not to show YOU.

IDW knows the calculation determining the force of two docking spacecraft. He just won´t show YOU again. After all, you're too DUMB to check his math, WHOMEVER you are.

IDW knows and can apply relativistic formulas. He just refuses for philosophical reasons. And fails to in a pinch, too.

IDW knows history. Well, sort of.

IDW knows he could have rigged a remote pilot system in a half-hour, using microswitches and servos, and therefore that´s what was used to hit the WTC with airplanes. He can prove this, (See Penn & Teller´s Bullsh!t series for a solid refuting of this) but carefully never PRODUCES said proof.

IDW knows that there will be a surprise martial law announcement in 2004. Oops. I guess we all just missed it.

IDW knows he has an above-average chemistry skill, but just can´t show his work. Nor get the correct answer. Nor use the correct notation. Nor...

IDW knows engineering. But the stuff he´s working on is way beyond top secret, so you´ll just have to take his word for it. IDW also knows he has invented many well known things. He just can´t mention ANY of them. Funny, that his name fails to show up on any patents in the ENTIRE database.

IDW knows he took off the gloves, but unfortunately no one seemed to notice. What a softie!

IDW knows he can write in a way none of the readers could comprehend. And probably actually spell properly as well.

IDW knows and promises that we´ll all be sorry. Never have been yet.

IDW knows who we all are. For we are ALL Duncan Kunz.

IDW knows his I.Q. is very high. You should take his word for it. After all, he's demonstrated it so well...

IDW knows he will soon reveal how Apollo was faked. Since he´s done such a bang-up job of it thus far. And continues to. Ad infinitum. But won't take his arguments anywhere but here.

IDW knows that they are covering up the Apollo fraud by specifically opposing him and his posts, all the while letting FOX specials on the air that claim the same thing that reach millions of people. Interesting allocation of resources, there.

IDW knows the BA and J are paid to lie to the public, and he´ll cite evidence any day now. Really. Maybe next Tuesday.

IDW knows he can back everything he claims up with tangible data. But never provides the data. No matter how nicely you ask.

IDW knows he will expose everyone else´s total incompetence. But so far has only repeatedly demonstrated his own... in a myraid of different ways.

IDW knows threads are selectively visible on GLP but can´t explain how. He also can´t explain why the threads he claims are invisible seem to be just as visible in Internet Cafes or other public terminals. He has CONFIRMED this. Really. When demonstrated that this claim was directly caused by his inability to use the simplistic GLP search engine, IDW quietly dropped the whole routine, which he'd been using for *years,* and still did not admit his mistake. In fact, he still claims he's right, although he's never had a problem using the search engine since a DEBUNKER explained it to him. Intellectual dishonesty? Nah...

IDW knows the government hides HIS posts. Yet they can be found if you search for them in the correct way...which isn't the IDWway. And that if you use a traditional, very simple, method of searching, you find them every time. But IDW still claims he is correct, because his supporters drop away, and that can ONLY be due to the thread being 'selectively visible.' It can't possibly have anything to do with people growing bored of his posturing, can it?

IDW knows he has irrefutable chemtrail evidence. He just can´t be arsed to produce it.

IDW knows his is the superior race, but he´s not acting like a Nazi. This is an entirely DIFFERENT superior racism thing.

IDW knows he can prove in a court of law that Apollo was fraud. Subpoenas that have been threatened for years will be served any moment now. Can´t wait to get mine.

IDW knows he will do everything in his power to bring us to justice. However that awesome power seems limited to posting on an internet board, and never changing or challenging his ideas with his supposed intellectual peers. What a coward.

IDW knows he has given all the information anyone need to know to prove what he says. Strangely, it doesn't prove what he says. And, quite often, proves just the opposite.

IDW knows his superior intelligence is self-evident. Well, maybe to HIMself. And he continues to use self-evident wrong.

IDW knows smart people can´t spell or punctuate properly. It´s as good an excuse for his grammar as any.

IDW knows he has a far larger vocabulary than anyone else, he just chooses not to use it. Ever.

IDW knows how to cut and paste basic links, he just chose not to until very recently, after it was explained by debunkers. And then he still did it wrong. But he's still right!

IDW knows he has *evidence* that people are paid to post counter to him. He just can´t provide it. Ever.

IDW knows DrP and Duncan Kunz are being paid to lie about 9/11 and they know the truth. He'll be producing paystubs on the same day he cites the evidence about BA and J. Just wait a little longer...

IDW knows he´s won every single argument. Even if no one else sees it that way. You didn't know he's keeping score by the number of times one uses the word 'Fucktard.'

IDW knows chemtrails are not debunked because they are accepted as fact by everyone. Despite dozens of webages doing just that.

IDW knows that if he posts steadfastly that something is a fact, it is a fact. If he´s adamant about something, it MUST be correct. Like the value of 10^5. Or that posts are selectively visible here on GLP. Or, or, or...well, as IDW says himself: "As for providing you with proof, I dont see the need."

IDW knows time is running out. As for what, who knows?

IDW knows our version of reality is being shot to hell. Strangely, I feel fine. So does reality.

IDW knows he never lies, except when he does, and then it is justified.

IDW knows and applies the rules of logic. Well, except that pesky burden of proof thing. And those fallacious arguments. And that lack of math. And...

IDW knows Google is a controlled site, to keep the masses in line, and doesn't use it. Except when he does.

IDW knows that "youre full of shit as a christmas goose" is a rational rebuttal of facts, as is "Get a life, fucktard." Socrates would be proud as this demonstration of critical thinking.

IDW knows he has "scientifically verifiable evidence, incontrovertible and un empeachable <sic> that proves the Moon is hollow." But he posts only unverifiable, controvertible and impeachable evidence.

IDW knows NASA provides all the evidence to prove the Moon is hollow. Yet their tentative conclusions are in sharp contrast to IDW´s absolutely certain ones.

IDW knows NASA wants to keep the hollowness of the Moon a secret, and yet all his claimed data can be found on the Internet, some on NASA´s own sites. Though he never gives links himself. And the data doesn't show what he claims it shows.

IDW knows and understands quantum mechanics.

IDW knows the speed of light is just a really big made-up number.

IDW knows all of atomic physics is wrong, for there is no photon.

IDW knows photons are actually electrons.

IDW knows he has an answer why electrons and photons behave differently from each other in the presence of a magnetic field. It's because the electron is too fast! Or something.

IDW knows the speed of light in a vacuum is not constant.

IDW knows that cars that are moving have headlights that shine out faster than cars that are stopped.

IDW knows all physics post-relativity is wrong. Despite heaps of evidence to the contrary.

IDW knows that Einstein´s equations do not predict the energy releases of atomic reactions. Except that they do.

IDW knows the energy-state of the observer cannot affect the observed. Except that it does.

IDW knows that relative velocities have nothing to do with relativity. Except that they do.

IDW knows he can explain time-dilation and Mercury´s orbit without resorting to relativity. He´ll be showing his work really soon. Oh, no, he won't.

IDW knows relativity is a Jewish Conspiracy.

IDW knows no mass is lost in nuclear reactions. Won´t the reactor-techs be surprised. And the Periodic Table of Elements.

IDW knows many distinguished scientists who agree with his theories. He just doesn´t know their names, and can´t produce any evidence of this. Anywhere.

IDW knows he makes $80,000 in a weekend. But instead of going to the beach, spends all his time here. And seemingly can only afford dial-up. And only has old, crap computers.

IDW knows he has "been offered a salary of $150,000.00" to be an Internet Debunker. Well, given the $80,000-in-a-single-weekend job he supposedly has now, it only makes sense to turn it down.

IDW knows NASA isn't forthcoming with spaceweather data, even though it was on links provided to him. By NASA.

IDW knows he tells the truth but everyone else lies. Even though he has been caught lying more than any other poster.

IDW knows everyone is a racist. But repeatedly is the only one to demonstrate it.

IDW knows if he can´t understand something, then no one else can, either. Maybe he isn't as super-intelligent as he thinks...

IDW knows impact craters should be oblong. All that math stuff doesn't prove anything. Nor all the demonstrations proving that round craters result in the vast majority of impacts.

IDW knows relative asteroid velocities are well under 4 kps. Even though they aren't.

IDW knows that it is only speculation that Meteor Crater was formed by a meteor. The 30 tons of meteorite specimens collected there is just a coincidence.

IDW knows geologists can´t tell the difference between a fake moonrock and a real moonrock.

IDW knows that "millions of tons of reflecting metallic dust [are] being deposited in the atmosphere daily." Funny that it takes the *entire surface of the Earth* to bump into a mere 40 tons of cosmic dust daily. And how many airplane flights does this take, anyway?

IDW knows all of chemistry is wrong, because he can´t believe specific gravity and mass can be measured in units so small.

IDW knows biology is wrong, because "Withen two years a domesticated pig released into the wild will grow hair and tusks...sorry if it debunks Darwins theory, but thems the facts...there is no evidence (for evolution) in the fossil record." Thus demonstrating that biology and paleoentology aren't IDW's strong suits, either.

IDW knows that the disintegration of hydrogen into electrons and protons is a form of fission. What do those nuclear engineers know?

IDW knows that it´s the human race against debunkers. Strangely, most of the human race doesn't know him OR the debunkers.


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Part II
IDW knows that the English language is intentionally illogical and obtuse. This conspiracy would have a name, but all words are controlled...

IDW knows that he misspells words on purpose. Really. It´s another great excuse.

IDW knows computers are based on alien technology. Surely no human could have come up with the technology. He´ll show evidence of that too, someday. Maybe along with those dose calculations.

IDW knows the government has shut down forums because of his posts. But can´t name ANY of the forums.

IDW knows the Moon is not what we think it is.

IDW knows moonrocks are just magma that solidified in flight, lost all their water, and absorbed an amazing amount of cosmic rays in the seconds before coming back down to Earth.

IDW knows moonrocks were brought back to Earth robotically, even though he can cite no evidence for this, nor produce the robots, nor produce the people who worked on them, nor...

IDW knows he could have designed an automated-lunar-landing-robot that could vacuum up Moon samples (really!) and return them to Earth at age eight. He has produced no such designs. He also appears to miss why this is a particularly silly claim.

IDW knows that Moonrocks could be 'created' on Earth with chemical compositions and cosmic radiation signatures exact enough to fool geologists -- missing the small tidbit that until we HAD Moonrocks we couldn't know how to fake their chemical composition, and also lack any way of faking the cosmic radiation signatures, or the signs that they've always existed in a vacuum, or how they have zap pits...

IDW knows all the debunker's IP addresses. He just won't show them until later. Of course, "later," in IDW's unique language, often translates to "Never."

IDW knows and has calculated that the radiation doses the astronauts received during the Moon flights would kill them within two weeks. Er, three days. Um, ten minutes. Uh, several days. But Apollo 17 still worked. No, it didn't. Yes, it did. No, It didn't (IDW, make up your mind!). But, heck, "You'll get a half a rad exposure on a beach in a day or two, dumbass!"

IDW knows the Moon has "the lowest eccentricity of any known planet or satelite<sic>." When demonstrated that he was wrong, IDW redefined eccentricity to be a measure in kilometers, rather than a ratio to a perfect circle. When Charon was shown to have a smaller deviation in kilometers using IDW´s own unique definition, IDW replied it was a double-planet system. When pointed out that the Earth-Moon system is similarly a double planet system, and then ALSO pointed out that several moons have smaller eccentricities using IDW´s OWN definition, IDW unilaterally claimed victory again. What he had obviously MEANT was that the Moon had the lowest eccentricity of any moon or satellite not orbiting a gas giant, not in a double planet system, not orbiting Mars, and not orbiting anything else but Earth. IDW, to his credit, finally admitted "I was wrong, mistaken" about this point. Only took a year and a half to admit it. And now he's changed his mind AGAIN, denying it is a mistake. Sigh.

IDW knows that when he unilaterally declares victory, it must be so. Even when he spells unilaterally wrong. And even after he declared unilateral victory in the eccentricity subject.

IDW knows that a careful review of the threads in question by an impatrial <sic> arbitror <sic> will reveal IDW defeated the BABBlers on every single issue, from impact energy to lunar composition and density. And don´t forget the eccentricity, too.

IDW knows the radios on Apollo didn't have enough signal strength to get to Earth. Of course, the probes currently on Mars don´t, either. Or Voyager. Or Pioneer. Or Mariner. Except now they can make it out to Saturn. No, they can't. But plutonium in spacecraft is evil! At least the non-sequitur is a valid argument, right?

IDW knows that "ESA doesnt claim to have sent the casseni or voyager probes, nor have they claimed to recieve signals from them," even though Cassini WAS partly an ESA probe, as was the Huygens probe that hitched a ride with it. IDW's research skills just keep improving!

IDW knows water is an element. I´m sorry, that was a typo.

IDW knows water is the only substance that expands upon solidification. Upon being shown others, IDW pretended he didn´t type ´element,´ and redefined solidification, rather than correct himself. I see a pattern.

IDW knows the REAL defintion of organic compound, and water is one, darn it! The rest of the scientific community does NOT know. Carbon? Who needs it?

IDW knows the textbook definition of organic chemistry, but won't state it. That merely means the textbook is wrong, and all the chemists are wrong, and all the chemistry students are wrong, and the controlled dictionaries are wrong...

IDW knows mass must be expressed in units of force in a "force equation". He gives no examples of such an equation. Nor solves any equations, either.

IDW knows an exponential function is any equation that contains an exponent. Even though it's not.

IDW knows craters in outer solar system are of non-impact origin since there are no asteroids out there *today*.

IDW knows there can be no "history" if no one was there to see it.

IDW knows he is a spectacular chess player. Except that when he got demolished in a chess match with DB, he accused DB of computer aid, rather than admit he simly lost.

IDW knows he has ´obtained evidence of at least two bonofide NAZI´s posting at the BABB forum and now operating at the GLP forum.´ He has not shown this evidence. I'm beginning to doubt he ever will.

IDW knows that my analog watch is defined as a nuclear reactor because tritium decay allows the hands to glow. Likewise IDW knows that a radium-dial wristwatch is a nuclear reactor. NEST would be at my door any minute, now, but thankfully don't listen to IDW, nor his unique definitions.

IDW knows he has a report about the nuclear reactors aboard Apollo. He just can´t identify the report. Nor admit that a "reaction cahmber" might be for reactions OTHER than nuclear ones.

IDW knows the explosion aboard Apollo 13 was a NUCLEAR explosion. Lovell must be one lucky guy.

IDW knows nuclear reactions were used for thrust during Apollo. He just can´t explain why, if we were using nuclear reactors for spaceship propulsion back in the 60´s and 70´s, we are´t doing so now.

IDW knows that the Moon rovers were nuclear powered too. What amazing miniaturization in the 70s!

IDW knows the technology to make compact television cameras did not exist at the time of Apollo. Won´t that be a surprise to people who owned cameras such as the Sony CVC-2000 (1965) - the first consumer vidicon camera, and dozens of later models.(See also: www.newseum.org for information the actual video camera carried on the missions.)

IDW knows he never claims he is superior, even when he says "Get on your knees before your superior."

IDW knows all innovations in science come from people like him. I'm not sure what qualities he is espousing here...

IDW knows "more about the Apollo hoax than any other person on this planet." Despite being unable to prove it is a hoax and despite all these amazingly obvious details getting by him, and his inability to do any research himself. Or footnote.

IDW knows he never engages in ad hominem, straw man, poisoning the well, argument from omniscience or other fallacious attacks, despite the fact that he does. And yes, he knows what all those mean without looking them up.

IDW knows exactly who 74444 is, and who his father was. When challenged to actually prove that, he claims posting **even just the first name** ia a bannable offense. Even though he engages in all sorts of other bannable offenses and gets around such bans all the time. C'mon, IDW, just a FIRST name...?

IDW knows space weather data is being withheld, and that space scientists worldwide must be in on it. Yet the data he uses appears on the Internet.

IDW knows posts are selectively visible on the GLP forum. It has nothing to do with his bad handling of the search engine. See part I for the refuting of this, and IDW's anything-but-logical reaction.

IDW knows that "we currently are in the midst of a mass extinction event and hundreds of species are dieing off completely every week." He just can't name any of those hundreds of species.

IDW knows that super-science weather modification is being used to create winter this year. JUST to prove his prediction of a 90 degree winter wrong. He's just that important!

IDW knows his forthcoming book is destined to be a bestseller. But he won't give the title, nor any information about it. And it is due out at the end of the year... (2007) Oops.

End of Part II.
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Part III

IDW knows that if you "ask those rocket scientists to show their work on the ascent stage [f Apollo], they'll all balk, guaranteed." Despite the fact that they're work is on the Internet, and in physics texts all over the country, and give lectures, and...

IDW knows that hidden messages in TV commercials are being used to inform certain people of upcoming events. But no, he ISN´T crazy. He´s not. You can SEE the embedded commercials. Well, can´t you? CAN´T YOU?!?

IDW knows that he is not a follower, he is a leader. Of whom, no one knows. A cult of one?

IDW knows the World Trade Center towers were outdated and thus could be destroyed in the 911 hoax. Strangely, the Empire State Building, the American International Building, and the Woolworth Building, all of which are decades older, are necessary to the nation and could not be used in such a hoax.

IDW knows it is widespread knowledge amongst the American people now that Zionists and Freemasons were behind the murders of 3000 Americans on 9/11 and not Arab hijackers who were still living after the attacks. He cannot produce anything to PROVE this, of course.

IDW knows that Bin Laden had nothing to do with the WTC attacks, even when Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for them repeatedly in the last few years. But what does HE know?

IDW knows that there is no equipment on the moon left by a manned mission and this will be eventually discovered. When the sites started to be photographed in 2009 IDW, seeing the writing on the wall, then claimed fake equipment may have been placed, and thus now the only evidence he'll accept is photographs taken of the *footprints* on the Moon, and then changed the goal post again saying such photographs would only be acceptable so long as America had nothing to do with photographing them. And probably that isn't enough evidence, either.

IDW knows that the average life expectancy has dropped in America in the last ten years. He hasn't shown anything to confirm this, but knows it with typical IDW-100-percent certainty.

IDW knows that the AIDS epidemic was caused by the smallpox vaccine. Hoo, boy.

IDW knows, with 100 percent certainty, that cellular technology is used to control brainwaves. He has years of research and experiments to prove this. None of which he is willing or able to produce. And he supposedly uses cellular connections more than most...

IDW knows that every word uttered over a cell phone is digitally scanned and recorded. Assuming that only half of the cell users in America spoke for five minutes to the other half of the cell users of America per day, that's over 20,000 hours of recorded conversation per DAY. Now where's all that stored? And who's sifting through it all to listen?

IDW knows the conspiracy against him is 4000 years old and is worldwide in scope. Yet this huge conspiracy seems so utterly ineffective against him. You'd think after 4000 years of practice, they'd be a bit more adept.

IDW knows that "You need to realize that the more you use insults and personal attacks without any real arguement the less you will be believed." Yet he uses insults and personal attacks without ant real argument more than just about anyone else.

IDK knows that Stephen Hawking "was poisoned in order to arrest the porgress(sic) his real work. It is not he that speaks throught he synthesizer." Despite the fact that before his illness really took hold, Hawking was largely saying the same things. Which supported Einstein, by the by.

IDW knows that he forced the New York State Board of Regents to accept alternative answers that ignore relativity. Yet, strangely, the traditional answers are still correct on the actual test.

IDW knows the word 'unproven' isn't in the dictionary. Probably explains his spelling issues, too.

IDW knows how to calculate radio link budgets. He just has yet to show one.

IDW knows all radio astronomers are lying because they can't possibly pick up the weak signals they claim to. Sigh.

IDW knows that "S band means side band and it has nothing to do with frequencies in reality, though it is used in certain frequency ranges to maximize effectiveness."

IDW knows that digital images are not real images by definition. It must be that same dictionary that 'unproven' isn't in.

IDW knows that he can think independently and does not accept what he is told without proof. Of course, he knows he can think independently and does not accept what he is told WITH proof, either. Changing his mind or admitting error seem to pose obstacles just a bit too great for IDW.

IDW knows that 74444 must work for the NSA, even though 74444 doesn't. Maybe IDW has failing psychic powers?

IDW knows that the physics questions presented to him to test his knowledge were the *exact* same questions presented to him on his High School Physics tests. What a coincidence! I must be more psychic than IDW!

IDW knows that the inflation problems of the 1970s were caused by the Apollo program. Causes such as the Vietnam war, unwise monetary policy, and oil embargoes had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

IDW knows that the Earth is an intelligent design, but Apollo spacecraft weren't.

IDW knows the definition of irony. Particularly when he writes "you need to stop being so condescending at the saem(sic) time youre(sic) displaying ignorance, its pathetic."

IDW knows physics better than Einstein and Planck, and even Newton and Kepler. He also know electricity better than Gustav Kirchoff, Georg Ohm, Alessandro Volta, James Watt, and André-Marie Ampére. So stop messing with him.

IDW knows that "electrical light sources (i.e. light bulbs, LEDS, etc) these electrons come from the power source. Current flow (electrons) into the device and some of the electrons are emitted as light. The remaining electrons return to the power source." Despite the fact that Ground Fault Interrupters, which measure the current in both lines would constantly cut the circuit were there such an imbalance. I guess we've stumbled onto the great Light Bulb conspiracy.

IDW knows that "hundreds of people die every year due to lightening passing through the protective grounds inside their own homes." The fact that less than 20 of the yearly fatalities even *occur* indoors? Probably just another cover up.

IDW knows that boats and ships are not grounded, because "that defies rational thinking. Any leakage of electrons from a boat occurs through water, and not the ground." I think the jobs of electircal engineers and electricians are quite safe from IDW.

IDW knows voltage is the same in all parts of a DC circuit. Kirchoff's Laws? The same current leaving and entering a source? That's all wrong.

IDW knows that "Impeadance is the same as resistance, and is measured using what the laymen calls an ohm meter." He also knows multimeters have an "impeadance setting." Even though they don't.

IDW knows there aren't any calculators on the web to calculate impedance. When shown that there are dozens, IDW latches onto the legalese parts of pages, claiming that because the creators assume no liability, that they are not evidence -- neglecting to simply do the calculations by hand to check. I've seen this strange pattern somewhere before...

IDW knows Liquid Hydrogen and Liquid Oxygen were not used in the Saturn V, because hydrogen would be impossible to liquify, and there isn't that much in the world anyhow. Oh, wait, he just meant the first stage didn't use Liquid Hydrogen, it used kerosene. But all the cryogenic fuels had to be kept at thousands of pounds pressure anyhow, so the whole Saturn V is obviously impossible...

IDW knows that it doesn't matter that many organic chemists "include artificial synthesis of analogues of organic molecules into organic chemistry." He doesn't, and that makes it a fact. And you'd BETTER accept his definitions, too.

IDW knows that "One of the stupidist lies a person can utter is that another is a liar when hes not, without a method to prove it or evidence of the lie." Despite the way he accuses people of being government agents, gay, Nazis, jewish, or in league with the message board administrators without a method to prove it. IDW doesn't know what irony is, but he engages in quite a lot of it.

IDW knows that there is no gravity assisted trajectory, since "the gravity grabs you back, and thus you don't gain anything." All those complicated maneuvers are just for show.

IDW knows no rocket ever made a controlled descent before 1969. Strangely, the pilot of the Bell Rocket Belt was flying something that was "not really a rocket." Of course, we don't know what the IDWverse's definition of "rocket" actually is...

IDW knows that "Academia is controlled by special interests that are not really concerned with the truth." Therefore IDW has yet ANOTHER excuse to never test his ideas critically!

IDW knows that debunkers "wont present a well formulated response because you are incapable of doing so. Thats why you resort to the tactics of attacking the messenger while ignoring the message." Yet he attacks the messenger far more than any debunker.

IDW knows he has three computers upon which he tested "the resistance between the negative of the backup battery and the chassis." Except, moments later, he claimed that he "would never run such a test, and have never claimed I would." Ironically, his very next question: "SO how does this prove anything about my honesty?"

IDW knows the motherboard is never grounded on a personal computer, and to do so would destroy it instantly. Proving that the Geek Squad has little to fear from IDW as well.

IDW knows he was "in control of programing the launching of nuclear weapons" for the U.S. Navy. This leads to the inevitable conclusion that none of them will ever actually work.

IDW knows that looking at the Apollo first stage "propellant you come up short. Way short with the ascent module. A first year physcis student proved it in 1972 in New York." He has yet to cite sources from that remarkable student in 1972, or any other year. I wonder why. Really, I do.

IDW knows that people on the Internet project their shortcomings onto others. What on Earth does that show about IDW himself?

IDW knows he *coined* the word 'fucktard.' Which explains his canny ability to act like one.

IDW knows that because 74444's IP number stays the same, he must work for the government. Static Ips? What are those?

IDW knows that the IP address of wireless devices changes constantly. Handoffs and Mobile-IP? Just another lie of TPTB.

IDW knows that "there is not a single astrophysicist in the world who knows more than i do about the subject." It's just a pity he can't PROVE it.

IDW knows that there is no doubt in 2014 the north pole will be near the opposite axis of rotation. It's Nancy Lieder all over again.

IDW knows, with over 98% certainty, that the Internet will be down, along with civilization, after December of 2012. That you are reading this can only be because of your fevered imagination in the aftertime.

IDW knows that 74444 won't be able to post after December 22nd, either because he is dead, the Internet failed, or the government stopped him. If you're reading this, you should have a fair idea how that prediction turned out.

IDW knows that "are in fact going to see a radical natural upheaval and ELE in the next 6 months, I am absolutely certain." Demonstrating, again, what his absolutely certain predictions are actually worth, since that was early 2012.


IDW knows that he worked on the Super Collider and the project was completed in secret. This might be true: given his grasp of physics, it sure looks like the lowest bidder to me.

IDW knows that it is a scientifically verified fact that there are human hybrids with a dominant reptilian dna. Where is it verified? Maybe in IDW's own mind, and surely that's enough...

IDW knows the Windows Calculator doesn't calculate to enough digits to be useful. When shown it calculated to 32 digits, IDW then claimed it wasn't scientific, and was inaccurate anyway. When shown scientific mode, and that its accuracy is the same as any other calculator, he begrudgingly admitted it, but claimed he was somehow still not wrong.

IDW knows that the GPS system doesn't need satellites to work.

IDW knows that he never sockpuppets his own threads. He just gets support from people who have the same IPs he has previously used, making the same technical errors, and same spelling mistakes, who then disappear when identified as sockpuppets.

IDW knows that there is a "Congressional Investigation into illegal practices at...the Bad Astronomy forum." No wonder Congress can't get anything done.

IDW knows he had to " write congress to obtain posting privileged here and on other publicly funded websites where illegal censorship was occurring." I wonder what department that falls under...?

IDW knows there is a secret coast to coast underground railway, made by nuclear boring machines that reach speeds in excess of 600 miles per hour. Meanwhile, Amtrak's Southern lines haven't been fixed since the hurricane.

IDW knows he has memories from before he was born, and "When my spirit is freed from it's physical containment I will become far more powerful and influential than the internet could possibly enable me to be..." Jedi, much? Or Sith?

IDW knows it all right up to the moment anyone asks him to show his work, or tests his knowledge. Then IDW just kind of forgets.

IDW knows that he "was born knowing more than any of you will ever know." And how can you possibly argue with THAT?
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As the time came and went, he's been quite silent.
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That isn't surprising...they all silently disappear in embarrassment.
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Describes Nancy and her believers quite well.

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Who is IDW??
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Well, after this new epic fail it is time for Nancy to retire.
She should make her announcement and confess all her lies and pranks.

Then Gerard Zwaan should close the doors of the Ning. A life between lenseflares can`t be the real sense of life.

Bye, bye Nancy Liar
Bye, bye Zetatalk

The 2012-hoax of Nancy was one hoax too much...
Nobody can be so stupid to believe this crazy woman anymore...
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But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
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That depends. Most are just mis-informed. However, if they choose to ignore the truth THEN they're either ignorant or stupid.
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Excellent move how you only took my last sentence and quoted it. Lemme just put the whole thing here again for other readers who might have lost track of this nice video:


Yeah, two(?) people claiming and some official NASA helioviewer pictures showing the tilting in an animation [1:05 to 1:45].

[link to www.youtube.com]


But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
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Excellent move how you only took my last sentence and quoted it. Lemme just put the whole thing here again for other readers who might have lost track of this nice video:

Yeah, two(?) people claiming and some official NASA helioviewer pictures showing the tilting in an animation [1:05 to 1:45].

[link to www.youtube.com]

But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30395743

Despite that the producer of the video, tree0fmight, was exposed as a fucking liar - the saturn picture is from 2009 when the rings were edge on and not from Dec 2012 where the ring opening is more than 14° - let's take another thought:

Saturn alleged pole shift.
Jupiter alleged pole shift.
Mars alleged pole shift.

Poleshift on Earth is imminent (as Poleshit-Nancy claims and announced since years).

Can you please explain, why Gerard Zwaan just a few years ago rent a flat in Katwijk just 150 meters away from the North Sea? (Google for him - his address is easy to get)
If Gerard Zwaan believes in Planet X and the pole shift, shouldn't he rent a flat far away from the coast instead?


Look at Poleshit-Nancys "After Pole Shift World Map" - look what happens to the Netherlands.

Pole shift imminent - and Gerard Zwaan still living at the shore?
Do you think Gerard Zwaan has suicidal ideation?

Think about it.


And I make the same offer to you, I made to another German:

I invite you to join me at one of my next observations near Hamburg.
I will show you the night sky and explain every step I do. I'll take the coordinates from old books to eliminate alleged frauds in the internet data.
And I'll bring a second scope, so you can reproduce the steps by your own - and even can search for Planet X.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Excellent move how you only took my last sentence and quoted it. Lemme just put the whole thing here again for other readers who might have lost track of this nice video:

Yeah, two(?) people claiming and some official NASA helioviewer pictures showing the tilting in an animation [1:05 to 1:45].

[link to www.youtube.com]

But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30395743

Despite that the producer of the video, tree0fmight, was exposed as a fucking liar - the saturn picture is from 2009 when the rings were edge on and not from Dec 2012 where the ring opening is more than 14°
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Oh, he's a fucking liar alright, and now he's exposed as a fucking thief too! He stole an image from my video and presented it next to "his" picture in his latest video as if he took it!

Oh sure, Saturn tilted 90 degrees and then went right back to normal. Even the rings magically changed back to their 2012 obliquity. Yeah, sure. I wonder who he stole his first picture from. I had attempted to post several comments on his first Saturn tilt video and they were all rejected or simply ignored and not allowed to post to his video. I made it quite clear that I knew he was lying and that I was no fan of his.

To his credit, yesterday I received a message from him requesting permission to use part of my video. I was driving and didn't have time to reply and in fact I was going to say no and give him an ear-full (and still will), but he didn't even wait 24 hours for a response and used it anyway without giving me an ounce of credit.

In fact, the way he used it tries to make it look like it's another one of his and the only person whose footage he gave credit to was a Russian who filmed another filter flare of the sun! He had no problem giving a fellow nibirutard credit, but me? Hell no, he'll just steal from me and try to make it look like it's his if he thinks he can get away with it. I guess my lack of an immediate response made him think that. He's about to learn that is not the case.
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Oh, he's a fucking liar alright, and now he's exposed as a fucking thief too! He stole an image from my video and presented it next to "his" picture in his latest video as if he took it!

Oh sure, Saturn tilted 90 degrees and then went right back to normal. Even the rings magically changed back to their 2012 obliquity. Yeah, sure. I wonder who he stole his first picture from. I had attempted to post several comments on his first Saturn tilt video and they were all rejected or simply ignored and not allowed to post to his video. I made it quite clear that I knew he was lying and that I was no fan of his.

To his credit, yesterday I received a message from him requesting permission to use part of my video. I was driving and didn't have time to reply and in fact I was going to say no and give him an ear-full (and still will), but he didn't even wait 24 hours for a response and used it anyway without giving me an ounce of credit.

In fact, the way he used it tries to make it look like it's another one of his and the only person whose footage he gave credit to was a Russian who filmed another filter flare of the sun! He had no problem giving a fellow nibirutard credit, but me? Hell no, he'll just steal from me and try to make it look like it's his if he thinks he can get away with it. I guess my lack of an immediate response made him think that. He's about to learn that is not the case.
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Hi Astro

the way I handle things like this: Thread: Saturn is COMPLETELY rotating at its side and Jupiter has tilted too!


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Oh, he's a fucking liar alright, and now he's exposed as a fucking thief too! He stole an image from my video and presented it next to "his" picture in his latest video as if he took it!

Oh sure, Saturn tilted 90 degrees and then went right back to normal. Even the rings magically changed back to their 2012 obliquity. Yeah, sure. I wonder who he stole his first picture from. I had attempted to post several comments on his first Saturn tilt video and they were all rejected or simply ignored and not allowed to post to his video. I made it quite clear that I knew he was lying and that I was no fan of his.

To his credit, yesterday I received a message from him requesting permission to use part of my video. I was driving and didn't have time to reply and in fact I was going to say no and give him an ear-full (and still will), but he didn't even wait 24 hours for a response and used it anyway without giving me an ounce of credit.

In fact, the way he used it tries to make it look like it's another one of his and the only person whose footage he gave credit to was a Russian who filmed another filter flare of the sun! He had no problem giving a fellow nibirutard credit, but me? Hell no, he'll just steal from me and try to make it look like it's his if he thinks he can get away with it. I guess my lack of an immediate response made him think that. He's about to learn that is not the case.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Hi Astro

the way I handle things like this: Thread: Saturn is COMPLETELY rotating at its side and Jupiter has tilted too!


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Great idea! How do I get his address from google? Side note, I tried to send him a response to his request for permission and found that he has blocked any messages from non-contacts. Since he never even bothered to add me as a contact, there was no way for me to deny him permission in the first place.
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To his credit, yesterday I received a message from him requesting permission to use part of my video. I was driving and didn't have time to reply and in fact I was going to say no and give him an ear-full (and still will), but he didn't even wait 24 hours for a response and used it anyway without giving me an ounce of credit.
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Just an update for this thread, I tried to reply to him today and deny him permission only to find out that he's blocked all messages from non-contacts. He didn't add me as a contact, so there was not even a way I could have denied him permission before he used it without permission.
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Writing such a "final" chapter will take TIME. Please be reasonable and give me to the 22nd of December to produce such a "tome".
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So, you'll be posting it by the end of today? Or will it still be forthcoming like your detailed piece about palm fronds and huge oil reserves in the arctic that we're still waiting for?
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I was down with stomach flu yesterday.

Forthcoming ...
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Writing such a "final" chapter will take TIME. Please be reasonable and give me to the 22nd of December to produce such a "tome".
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So, you'll be posting it by the end of today? Or will it still be forthcoming like your detailed piece about palm fronds and huge oil reserves in the arctic that we're still waiting for?
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I was down with stomach flu yesterday.

Forthcoming ...
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Did the Dec. 21 non-event cause you to get an upset stomach?


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Writing such a "final" chapter will take TIME. Please be reasonable and give me to the 22nd of December to produce such a "tome".
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So, you'll be posting it by the end of today? Or will it still be forthcoming like your detailed piece about palm fronds and huge oil reserves in the arctic that we're still waiting for?
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I was down with stomach flu yesterday.

Forthcoming ...
 Quoting: zm 29636476

Did the Dec. 21 non-event cause you to get an upset stomach?


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I most certainly was NOT disappointed that nothing happened Friday. 'zm' does not stand for ZetaMonster ...
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...


So, you'll be posting it by the end of today? Or will it still be forthcoming like your detailed piece about palm fronds and huge oil reserves in the arctic that we're still waiting for?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I was down with stomach flu yesterday.

Forthcoming ...
 Quoting: zm 29636476

Did the Dec. 21 non-event cause you to get an upset stomach?


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'zm' does not stand for ZetaMonster ...
 Quoting: zm 29636476

ZetaMuppet?

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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But I guess you make a great show of learning and everybody else is just stupid.
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You said it, not me.

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