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Which wiped out the Minoan civilization
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Now that's a tad of an exaggeration.

The Thera eruption might have mortally wounded the Thalassocracy by wiping out its fleet, destroying its ports, and reducing its population.
But the culture itself managed to hang on for another generation or two until the Mycenaean invasion.

And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest,
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

What is your evidence that those are statistically disproportional?

it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce,
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Ah, magic.
Did that suddenly start working?

Credulous nonsense.
You are a cultist, not a truth seeker.

Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

If you pile B.S. on top of B.S. you just get a bigger pile of shit.
book

All you have is delusions of magic, and appeals to pseudo-science.
All meaningless in the real world.
The likes of you have predicted TEOTWAWKI hundreds of times in the past, with a zero success-rate.
Why should anyone take this nonsense serious?

Seriously...
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Your ignorance is actually painful

Research the human energy field and high sense perception

Look into Barbara Brennan, former atmospheric physicist for NASA and one of the most gifted psychics and healers alive.\

Look into the Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot for the science behind clairvoyance and other forms of high sense perception. Just because these phenomenon are out side your perception does not mean that this is the case for others who have expanded their awareness....
book

Obviously your intuition is dense, you assume things YOU haven't experienced are not real and are "magic" because you don't understand them. Maybe you need to wake up and smell the roses, "magic" didn't suddenly start working, it always has.

You will again try and insult my beliefs by using words like "delusions" and "psuedoscience" to discredit what i say, which just goes to show u posses an unwillingness to look at things from ALL angles and are too stuck in your outdated metaphysical view of our world.. Maybe you need to study science more and learn some sub atomic physics to help you understand the interconnectedness of all life and how that relates to certain individuals ability to tap in to the implicate order of reality as put forth by David Bohm allowing them to view possible future occurances...
book

Seriously dude..... Get a damn clue!!!!
putin
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And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest, it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce, Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
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Edgar Cayce said Atlantis would rise in "68 and the earth changes would come to a crescendo by the end of the millenium. He was quite specific. None of it happened. This is our greatest visionary? But Cayce and Nancy have a couple of things in common, mainly that they have never been right about anything and that in spite of that, people still ignore the failures and defend them blindly. The Cayce Foundation has made heaps more money than Nancy though.
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Links please?
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And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest, it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce, Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
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Edgar Cayce said Atlantis would rise in "68 and the earth changes would come to a crescendo by the end of the millenium. He was quite specific. None of it happened. This is our greatest visionary? But Cayce and Nancy have a couple of things in common, mainly that they have never been right about anything and that in spite of that, people still ignore the failures and defend them blindly. The Cayce Foundation has made heaps more money than Nancy though.
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Debunk that home boy!!!


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HOPE THAT HELPS!!!! HAVE A MERRY XMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR, ENJOY 2013 :D

"No matter what your belief about the near future, whether you believe Planet X is on its way or believe life will do nothing but get better, we all have to still focus on one day at a time and give that one day all we've got to give. And we will give. We'll give compassion and comfort to those who need it. We'll lend an ear to those who need a sounding board. We'll choose silence instead of speaking ill of another. We'll pray for those we can't personally help and we'll notice and appreciate every blessing that happens our way. That's having spiritual class. Some wear their class on the outside while others wear it on the inside." - MSR
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And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest, it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce, Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
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Edgar Cayce said Atlantis would rise in "68 and the earth changes would come to a crescendo by the end of the millenium. He was quite specific. None of it happened. This is our greatest visionary? But Cayce and Nancy have a couple of things in common, mainly that they have never been right about anything and that in spite of that, people still ignore the failures and defend them blindly. The Cayce Foundation has made heaps more money than Nancy though.
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Links please?
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If you need a link, you obviously have never read the books, probably just read what someone said about Cayce in a newer book or a video. It's in his books. You can probably still even get the transcripts (for a nice fee) from the Cayce Foundation, but I bet you could get his later books at the library. I remember the doom tards of the day back in the late 60's waiting for Atlantis to emerge from the seas. They stocked up and made plans, lived in communes waiting for this glorious prediction to happen. It never did.
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LOL. As I was typing, Kiwi AC was posting youtube videos about Cayce by new age fraudsters. Go to the source, AC. Don't just listen to morons like In5d. He talks the big talk, but if you look to the source, in this case, the books with the Cayce transcripts, you will see that I am right.
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"Back in the 1950s three social psychologists joined a cult that was predicting the imminent end of the world. Their purpose was to observe the cultists’ response when the world did not, in fact, end on schedule. What they discovered, and described in their classic book, “When Prophecy Fails,” is that the irrefutable failure of a prophecy does not cause true believers — people who have committed themselves to a belief both emotionally and by their life choices — to reconsider. On the contrary, they become even more fervent, and proselytize even harder.

This insight seems highly relevant as 2012 draws to a close. After all, a lot of people came to believe that we were on the brink of catastrophe — and these views were given extraordinary reach by the mass media. As it turned out, of course, the predicted catastrophe failed to materialize. But we can be sure that the cultists won’t admit to having been wrong."

[link to www.nytimes.com]
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Which wiped out the Minoan civilization
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Now that's a tad of an exaggeration.

The Thera eruption might have mortally wounded the Thalassocracy by wiping out its fleet, destroying its ports, and reducing its population.
But the culture itself managed to hang on for another generation or two until the Mycenaean invasion.

And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest,
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

What is your evidence that those are statistically disproportional?

it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce,
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Ah, magic.
Did that suddenly start working?

Credulous nonsense.
You are a cultist, not a truth seeker.

Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

If you pile B.S. on top of B.S. you just get a bigger pile of shit.
book

All you have is delusions of magic, and appeals to pseudo-science.
All meaningless in the real world.
The likes of you have predicted TEOTWAWKI hundreds of times in the past, with a zero success-rate.
Why should anyone take this nonsense serious?

Seriously...
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Your ignorance is actually painful

Research the human energy field and high sense perception

Look into Barbara Brennan, former atmospheric physicist for NASA and one of the most gifted psychics and healers alive.\

Look into the Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot for the science behind clairvoyance and other forms of high sense perception. Just because these phenomenon are out side your perception does not mean that this is the case for others who have expanded their awareness....
book

Obviously your intuition is dense, you assume things YOU haven't experienced are not real and are "magic" because you don't understand them. Maybe you need to wake up and smell the roses, "magic" didn't suddenly start working, it always has.

You will again try and insult my beliefs by using words like "delusions" and "psuedoscience" to discredit what i say, which just goes to show u posses an unwillingness to look at things from ALL angles and are too stuck in your outdated metaphysical view of our world.. Maybe you need to study science more and learn some sub atomic physics to help you understand the interconnectedness of all life and how that relates to certain individuals ability to tap in to the implicate order of reality as put forth by David Bohm allowing them to view possible future occurances...
book

Seriously dude..... Get a damn clue!!!!
putin
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It is pseudoscience.

Create a double blind repeatable experiment to test said claims, and it will be on the road to becoming science. Until then, sorry.
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I finished the true story of Nancy Lieder a few days ago.

Enjoy it and read all her lies of the last 17 years again.(though the term "enjoy" might be the wrong word)
I could only add some of them to my report, cause the list is far too long. And yes 2012 was too far out for Nancytalk and a Nobeeryou that never existed.


[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]

I will add the documents of the former moderator COS in the next few days. Apart from that I have also written a little story about the big 2012-hoax. Time goes on and we are a part of it. Nobody needs scary charlatans like Nancy Lieder who are telling woo-woo-nonsense every day. I`m sorry guys but the documents are only available in German. But you can translate them with an Online-Translator easily.

Merry xmas to everyone ....
And a happy 2013!

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All you have is delusions of magic, and appeals to pseudo-science.
All meaningless in the real world.
The likes of you have predicted TEOTWAWKI hundreds of times in the past, with a zero success-rate.
Why should anyone take this nonsense serious?

Seriously...
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

Your ignorance is actually painful
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Don't make me laugh.

Research the human energy field and high sense perception
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Newage bullshit.

Look into Barbara Brennan, former atmospheric physicist for NASA and one of the most gifted psychics and healers alive.\
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Deluded or fraudster.

It is not at all hard to prove that a certain method is effective at healing people.
Bullshitters never pass the test.
They usually work very hard at avoiding testing.

Look into the Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot for the science behind clairvoyance and other forms of high sense perception. Just because these phenomenon are out side your perception does not mean that this is the case for others who have expanded their awareness....
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Things that are not known to exist don't require any theoretical underpinning.
What they require is proven to exist.

Until then, who cares.

Obviously your intuition is dense, you assume things YOU haven't experienced are not real and are "magic" because you don't understand them.
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Intuition is not a reliable method to ascertain the factuality of anything.
FACTS and EVIDENCE are.

If magic were real you could demonstrate it.
Nobody has EVER demonstrated it.

Maybe you need to wake up and smell the roses, "magic" didn't suddenly start working, it always has.
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

And you're surprised people think you are delusional?

You will again try and insult my beliefs by using words like "delusions" and "psuedoscience" to discredit what i say, which just goes to show u posses an unwillingness to look at things from ALL angles and are too stuck in your outdated metaphysical view of our world.. Maybe you need to study science more and learn some sub atomic physics to help you understand the interconnectedness of all life and how that relates to certain individuals ability to tap in to the implicate order of reality as put forth by David Bohm allowing them to view possible future occurances...
book
 Quoting: Enzed Coward 30735455

Lots of words to hide the fact that you have NO FACTS or EVIDENCE to support your claims.

You are a victim of magical thinking.

Seriously dude..... Get a damn clue!!!!
putin
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LOL.

Me skeptic, you creduloid.

I bet you $500 bucks the Miss Leader will NEVER make an accurate prediction EVER.
schlock2

I finished the true story of Nancy Lieder a few days ago.

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]
 Quoting: VeritasN1

Very useful, thank you.

Merry xmas to everyone ....
And a happy 2013!
 Quoting: VeritasN1

We'll try our best.
book

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I finished the true story of Nancy Lieder a few days ago.

Enjoy it and read all her lies of the last 17 years again.(though the term "enjoy" might be the wrong word)
I could only add some of them to my report, cause the list is far too long. And yes 2012 was too far out for Nancytalk and a Nobeeryou that never existed.


[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]

I will add the documents of the former moderator COS in the next few days. Apart from that I have also written a little story about the big 2012-hoax. Time goes on and we are a part of it. Nobody needs scary charlatans like Nancy Lieder who are telling woo-woo-nonsense every day. I`m sorry guys but the documents are only available in German. But you can translate them with an Online-Translator easily.

Merry xmas to everyone ....
And a happy 2013!
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Great sum!
Deadly accurate.

I always worried about the way how previous believers are disposed and ignored since, as you wrote, many of these individuals remain unheared of.

Nancy produced so many victims it probably would be worthy to create a forum only for ex-believers to communicate with each other.

BTW: feel free to use anything from the doc. :)

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

>>c. 1650 BC: The last species of mammoth became extinct on Wrangel Island.

>>1627 BC: Beginning of a cooling of world climate lasting several years recorded in tree-rings all over the world.It might have been caused by the Minoan eruption of Thera or the Avellino eruption of Mount Vesuvius. Which wiped out the Minoan civilization
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And why is this supposed to be connected to a poleshift?
The way how Nancy portrays it doesnt fit in the picture we're finding.
There are no signs of periodic-, worldwide-, violent-adjustments in 3600 year patterns.
So maybe we're talking about different poleshifts?

Scientists have not yet found hints about crustal-shifts whereas
magnetic-shifts occured througout earths history and are recorded where two plates diverge from each other [link to istp.gsfc.nasa.gov]

Through Carbon-dating timeline-patterns were formulated: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Regarding the sedimentary remains... have you personally set out and looked at the rock strata in Germany? On the west coast of New Zealand in a place called Port Waikato, we went and produced a geological map of the sedimentary structures that make up the area, which is composed mostly of calcareous lime, silt and sand stones. The grading of the sediments is suggestive of rapid sea level rise and retreat that the Lecturer found to be curious. I know this is not evidence and certainly not proof but how closely have you looked??
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Honestly, I have not yet went out to dig deep into the ground to reproduce what others have done already....but
im studying something very similar and always when I see a huge piece of history (in the form of rock) I am reminded that a 3600 year cycle is just too damn short to be the case.

I know your familiar with zetatalk and must admit I'm surprised you discredit all the evidence that is put forth. I don't know how much of Velikovsky you have read but maybe you should read his correspondence with Einstein and also worlds in collision to gain a well rounded understanding of what he was suggesting, Einstein said no to Venus, yes to cataclysms.

And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest, it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce, Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
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I see that you are the type of person who's very open to all sides of a story and I appreciate that.

I havent read Velikovskys book and probably won't in the future either unless there's something that sparks significant correlation.
(Again I dont see anything of it happening).

Same counts about Zaccharia Stichin, although I went to look deeper into his claims as this site offers so greatly [link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]


How is it that you are suprised that I "discredit" ZT? (While it is merely pointing out lies)

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To his credit, yesterday I received a message from him requesting permission to use part of my video. I was driving and didn't have time to reply and in fact I was going to say no and give him an ear-full (and still will), but he didn't even wait 24 hours for a response and used it anyway without giving me an ounce of credit.
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Just an update for this thread, I tried to reply to him today and deny him permission only to find out that he's blocked all messages from non-contacts. He didn't add me as a contact, so there was not even a way I could have denied him permission before he used it without permission.
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It seems as though he received the notice of a copyright violation report, he now edited the description of his video to mention that he didn't take the picture from the 21st, but he still does not credit me or give any link back to the original source. I will be looking for legal representation later this week to contact google so that I may send him a bill.
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Thank you for your permission, MATV (COS). But I will only add the link and post some additional comments.

It is a shame that this guy abuses pictures of a renowned astronomer like Dr. Astro to spread his hoaxes. Of course planets like Saturn and Jupiter don`t simply tilt.

Besides that it is highly flashy that Nancy`s so called Zetas are always getting their latest news from google or youtube which are soon exposed as hoaxes. If there were real aliens with a message out there, they would probably use the internet or television to send us their things.

So another hoax ... exposed. Crazy Nancy should really soon close her Ning.
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ZetaMuppet?

.
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No - Nancy's wrinkled and scaly hand is not planted up my ass.
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Must....resist....pun...of...doom...
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Final Chapter:

Nancy was mistaken.

THE END
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If that's how you are going to boil down 5 years of your irrational behavior regarding certain types of predictions...

I just hope you learned something along the way, and might make more rational choices in the future.
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News from the Poleshifters!!!!

OBVIOUS WOBBLE (Southern Germany records warmest Christmas Eve ever!)


Too bad they didnt actually do any research into this because if they had they would have noticed that the antipodes would have also had the exact opposite results, so we should have expected record lows in New Zealand, unfortunately it seems that at the exact same time Munich was breaking record highs, Wellington was showing a temperature also about 10 degrees ABOVE their average as opposed to what it should have been if the earth actually was wobbling. Idiots.

Those people just make shit up as they go dont they, lol.
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News from the Poleshifters!!!!

OBVIOUS WOBBLE (Southern Germany records warmest Christmas Eve ever!)


Too bad they didnt actually do any research into this because if they had they would have noticed that the antipodes would have also had the exact opposite results, so we should have expected record lows in New Zealand, unfortunately it seems that at the exact same time Munich was breaking record highs, Wellington was showing a temperature also about 10 degrees ABOVE their average as opposed to what it should have been if the earth actually was wobbling. Idiots.

Those people just make shit up as they go dont they, lol.
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They're not the sharpest bunch when it comes to critical thinking. Perhaps they stood attend the class my eldest brother teaches at the local university - Logic, Reason and Critical Thinking.

I seriously doubt any of the ningtards understands that if the Earth was wobbling as they claim, the planet would be tearing itself apart from the shifts of it's rotational axis.

Off of the original topic - it seems that the membership of the ning has gone completely static - still at 621 members.
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No - Nancy's wrinkled and scaly hand is not planted up my ass.
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Must....resist....pun...of...doom...
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Final Chapter:

Nancy was mistaken.

THE END
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29636476


If that's how you are going to boil down 5 years of your irrational behavior regarding certain types of predictions...

I just hope you learned something along the way, and might make more rational choices in the future.
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Still got my eye on the February through June timeframe. We are NOT "out of the woods" in terms of Courtney Brown's remote viewing material until June 2013 is in the history books. At ***THAT*** point, my DOOM CUPBOARDS will truly be "bare". (Which will be a GOOD thing!)

Though all this "gun control" noise has me nervous ...
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Must....resist....pun...of...doom...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Final Chapter:

Nancy was mistaken.

THE END
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29636476


If that's how you are going to boil down 5 years of your irrational behavior regarding certain types of predictions...

I just hope you learned something along the way, and might make more rational choices in the future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Still got my eye on the February through June timeframe. We are NOT "out of the woods" in terms of Courtney Brown's remote viewing material until June 2013 is in the history books. At ***THAT*** point, my DOOM CUPBOARDS will truly be "bare". (Which will be a GOOD thing!)

Though all this "gun control" noise has me nervous ...
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The above was "me".
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Still got my eye on the February through June timeframe. We are NOT "out of the woods" in terms of Courtney Brown's remote viewing material until June 2013 is in the history books. At ***THAT*** point, my DOOM CUPBOARDS will truly be "bare". (Which will be a GOOD thing!)

Though all this "gun control" noise has me nervous ...
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You're following your normal pattern. When one prophet fails you just latch onto another. You're so predictable.

Come the end of June, you'll just find another false prophet to latch onto.
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The above was "me".
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Yeah, we could all figure that out as soon as you mentioned remote viewing. You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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You're following your normal pattern. When one prophet fails you just latch onto another. You're so predictable.

Come the end of June, you'll just find another false prophet to latch onto.
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+1000

truly
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Well, been kicking around IDW/A.A on the Solar data thread. He's still blaming a worldwide conspiracy involving jewish Mayan translators. Or something.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 357)

He also said he will never reply to me again, so I consider that a 'win.' I'll just keep on pointing out his missteps, and he can fail to acknowledge, never realizing how weak that makes him look -- and how weak his various positions actually are.

I also notice he is promising to refrain from ever making specific predictions with dates in the future. Who does THAT remind you of?

And now claiming that Russia has no microwave ovens, even when someone posted up Russian sites on the internet where to buy them.

Classic.
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Well, when false prophets are completely desperate and have too many fails in their portfolio when they will only make predictions without a specific date.

Nancy Lieder is the best example for such an epic fail woo-woo-prophet.
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And given the state of the planet today in terms of natural disasters and social unrest, it is certainly indicative that we are building up to big changes, which were prophesised by the greatest visionary of our time, Edgar Cayce, Who said around the new millennium the axis will change. That adds a lot of weight to the zetatalk claims.
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Edgar Cayce said Atlantis would rise in "68 and the earth changes would come to a crescendo by the end of the millenium. He was quite specific. None of it happened. This is our greatest visionary? But Cayce and Nancy have a couple of things in common, mainly that they have never been right about anything and that in spite of that, people still ignore the failures and defend them blindly. The Cayce Foundation has made heaps more money than Nancy though.
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Links please?
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"Atlantis" "Cayce" "1968"

It's called Google.
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Nancy Lieder aka Nancy liar and her poleshitters were hit by the Christmas Hammer again. You can easily see in her latest 7/10-hoax report that their brains are still wobbling...rofl

lmao ....

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The above was "me".
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Yeah, we could all figure that out as soon as you mentioned remote viewing. You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.
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>> You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.

Thanks for confessing your lack of mental capacity. You obviously avoid FACTS that would negate your limited view of things.
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The above was "me".
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Yeah, we could all figure that out as soon as you mentioned remote viewing. You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.
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>> You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.

Thanks for confessing your lack of mental capacity. You obviously avoid FACTS that would negate your limited view of things.
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What FACTS?

The FACT that the pole shift is imminent and Gerard Zwaan still lives 150 meters off the shore of the North Sea?
[link to goo.gl]

The FACT that Gerard Zwaan is not in a "safe location" despite an alleged devasting tsunami?

How about asking Gerard Zwaan if he believes in Poleshit-Nancys hoaxes and lies?


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Thank you for this information, Hydra. It was always clear for me that Zwaan doesn`t believe in Nancy`s weird predictions. More or less he helped her to escape from godlikeproductions.com to create a kind of repressive dictatorship in the poleshift.ning.com. So he has full control over the money flow of this board. He gets the money for the donations and I don’t want to know how much he earns with the handy-apps they are selling.

What is even more amazing is the fact that they are selling so called safe locations and Zwaan just lives 150 meters away from the sea. This is a professional fraud. Zwaan is a con man and a beguiler. Here I see no difference between him and Nancy Lieder. They are both into cheating and hoaxing other people and abusing their fears though in Nancy`s case it is more an exorbitant Ego that is driving her actions and pranks.
I will add this to the true story of Zetatalk I have written in my blog. You can find it here:

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]
So I can finally finish the story of Zetatalk and some other 2012-hoaxes. Zwaan is not alone because there are others out there like him. They are all mobsters who try to abuse and manipulate other people. A Patrick Garyl for example collected a lot of money from his followers to bring them (and him of course) to a safe location in Africa on december 21st. He never arrived there and wrote his last predictions in London. Of course this predictions - massive earthquakes all around the world - failed too (like crazy Nancy`s xmas-hammer always does)!bonghit

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Thank you for this information, Hydra. It was always clear for me that Zwaan doesn`t believe in Nancy`s weird predictions. More or less he helped her to escape from godlikeproductions.com to create a kind of repressive dictatorship in the poleshift.ning.com. So he has full control over the money flow of this board. He gets the money for the donations and I don’t want to know how much he earns with the handy-apps they are selling.

What is even more amazing is the fact that they are selling so called safe locations and Zwaan just lives 150 meters away from the sea. This is a professional fraud. Zwaan is a con man and a beguiler. Here I see no difference between him and Nancy Lieder. They are both into cheating and hoaxing other people and abusing their fears though in Nancy`s case it is more an exorbitant Ego that is driving her actions and pranks.
I will add this to the true story of Zetatalk I have written in my blog. You can find it here:

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]
So I can finally finish the story of Zetatalk and some other 2012-hoaxes. Zwaan is not alone because there are others out there like him. They are all mobsters who try to abuse and manipulate other people. A Patrick Garyl for example collected a lot of money from his followers to bring them (and him of course) to a safe location in Africa on december 21st. He never arrived there and wrote his last predictions in London. Of course this predictions - massive earthquakes all around the world - failed too (like crazy Nancy`s xmas-hammer always does)!bonghit
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Gotta disagree with you guys.
As I stated in my document, ALL Moderators believe Nancy's story to be true.
Gerard is not in a situation where he can just relocate. I wont detail on that, but I can say with certainity that he doesn't use the donations of the PS-Ning for ANY personal purposes. (Its all still there, documented and they could confirm if needed).
Gerard does indeed believe he's helping mankind by warning from an impending passage and accordingly he acts how he does.
He is not a con-artist, nor is anyoneelse other than NANCY.

She is the one who recieves donations from believers, sometimes in exchange for personal zetatalk. We talk about several thousand dollars here and they're certainly not going into ANY of the Moderators pockets.

Why? Because they all believe Nancy's story to be "pure STO" and taking money would be a contrary to that. All Money goes into Nancy's pocket and to my knowledge these are only the donations from willing members. (The mentioned APP was created by someone else, Eric Pham, the guy who interviewed her on "the Zetas Talk", and all money goes into his hands from it.)

Nancy rarely brings about these donations, she is very careful about it and appears to be not taking exessively much. She wants to appear humble.

However, you are assuming things over Gerard without any substance. Please note that I knew him for several years, I actually was one of his closest contacts, meet him personal and he really is not consciously misleading/scamming people. - Unlike Nancy.

Also we shouldnt forget that the whole EU-tsunami and all the doom and gloom was supposed to be eliminated by the "metal-boxes".
Gerard thinks he got some more time before he has to flee from the Netherlands.. but it is not like Nancy isn't constantly bugging the Mods to get their "preparations" going.

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Thank you for this information, Hydra. It was always clear for me that Zwaan doesn`t believe in Nancy`s weird predictions. More or less he helped her to escape from godlikeproductions.com to create a kind of repressive dictatorship in the poleshift.ning.com. So he has full control over the money flow of this board. He gets the money for the donations and I don’t want to know how much he earns with the handy-apps they are selling.

What is even more amazing is the fact that they are selling so called safe locations and Zwaan just lives 150 meters away from the sea. This is a professional fraud. Zwaan is a con man and a beguiler. Here I see no difference between him and Nancy Lieder. They are both into cheating and hoaxing other people and abusing their fears though in Nancy`s case it is more an exorbitant Ego that is driving her actions and pranks.
I will add this to the true story of Zetatalk I have written in my blog. You can find it here:

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]
So I can finally finish the story of Zetatalk and some other 2012-hoaxes. Zwaan is not alone because there are others out there like him. They are all mobsters who try to abuse and manipulate other people. A Patrick Garyl for example collected a lot of money from his followers to bring them (and him of course) to a safe location in Africa on december 21st. He never arrived there and wrote his last predictions in London. Of course this predictions - massive earthquakes all around the world - failed too (like crazy Nancy`s xmas-hammer always does)!bonghit
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Gotta disagree with you guys.
As I stated in my document, ALL Moderators believe Nancy's story to be true.
Gerard is not in a situation where he can just relocate. I wont detail on that, but I can say with certainity that he doesn't use the donations of the PS-Ning for ANY personal purposes. (Its all still there, documented and they could confirm if needed).
Gerard does indeed believe he's helping mankind by warning from an impending passage and accordingly he acts how he does.
He is not a con-artist, nor is anyoneelse other than NANCY.

She is the one who recieves donations from believers, sometimes in exchange for personal zetatalk. We talk about several thousand dollars here and they're certainly not going into ANY of the Moderators pockets.

Why? Because they all believe Nancy's story to be "pure STO" and taking money would be a contrary to that. All Money goes into Nancy's pocket and to my knowledge these are only the donations from willing members. (The mentioned APP was created by someone else, Eric Pham, the guy who interviewed her on "the Zetas Talk", and all money goes into his hands from it.)

Nancy rarely brings about these donations, she is very careful about it and appears to be not taking exessively much. She wants to appear humble.

However, you are assuming things over Gerard without any substance. Please note that I knew him for several years, I actually was one of his closest contacts, meet him personal and he really is not consciously misleading/scamming people. - Unlike Nancy.

Also we shouldnt forget that the whole EU-tsunami and all the doom and gloom was supposed to be eliminated by the "metal-boxes".
Gerard thinks he got some more time before he has to flee from the Netherlands.. but it is not like Nancy isn't constantly bugging the Mods to get their "preparations" going.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

Hi Tunnel,

I disagree with your opinion - at least partially.

I don't know anything about the money matters, so this is not my part.

But:
After the no-show of PX and the pole shift in 2003, Poleshit-Nancy said 2012 is too far out.
And in 2008 Zwaan moves to an appartement just 150 meters away from the coastline - despite the sword of Damocles (in the form of a 100+ feet tsunami rolling over the Netherlands) hanging over him?

Sorry, but I don't buy, that Zwaan is as innocent as you describe him.


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Thank you for this information, Hydra. It was always clear for me that Zwaan doesn`t believe in Nancy`s weird predictions. More or less he helped her to escape from godlikeproductions.com to create a kind of repressive dictatorship in the poleshift.ning.com. So he has full control over the money flow of this board. He gets the money for the donations and I don’t want to know how much he earns with the handy-apps they are selling.

What is even more amazing is the fact that they are selling so called safe locations and Zwaan just lives 150 meters away from the sea. This is a professional fraud. Zwaan is a con man and a beguiler. Here I see no difference between him and Nancy Lieder. They are both into cheating and hoaxing other people and abusing their fears though in Nancy`s case it is more an exorbitant Ego that is driving her actions and pranks.
I will add this to the true story of Zetatalk I have written in my blog. You can find it here:

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]
So I can finally finish the story of Zetatalk and some other 2012-hoaxes. Zwaan is not alone because there are others out there like him. They are all mobsters who try to abuse and manipulate other people. A Patrick Garyl for example collected a lot of money from his followers to bring them (and him of course) to a safe location in Africa on december 21st. He never arrived there and wrote his last predictions in London. Of course this predictions - massive earthquakes all around the world - failed too (like crazy Nancy`s xmas-hammer always does)!bonghit
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Gotta disagree with you guys.
As I stated in my document, ALL Moderators believe Nancy's story to be true.
Gerard is not in a situation where he can just relocate. I wont detail on that, but I can say with certainity that he doesn't use the donations of the PS-Ning for ANY personal purposes. (Its all still there, documented and they could confirm if needed).
Gerard does indeed believe he's helping mankind by warning from an impending passage and accordingly he acts how he does.
He is not a con-artist, nor is anyoneelse other than NANCY.

She is the one who recieves donations from believers, sometimes in exchange for personal zetatalk. We talk about several thousand dollars here and they're certainly not going into ANY of the Moderators pockets.

Why? Because they all believe Nancy's story to be "pure STO" and taking money would be a contrary to that. All Money goes into Nancy's pocket and to my knowledge these are only the donations from willing members. (The mentioned APP was created by someone else, Eric Pham, the guy who interviewed her on "the Zetas Talk", and all money goes into his hands from it.)

Nancy rarely brings about these donations, she is very careful about it and appears to be not taking exessively much. She wants to appear humble.

However, you are assuming things over Gerard without any substance. Please note that I knew him for several years, I actually was one of his closest contacts, meet him personal and he really is not consciously misleading/scamming people. - Unlike Nancy.

Also we shouldnt forget that the whole EU-tsunami and all the doom and gloom was supposed to be eliminated by the "metal-boxes".
Gerard thinks he got some more time before he has to flee from the Netherlands.. but it is not like Nancy isn't constantly bugging the Mods to get their "preparations" going.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

Hi Tunnel,

I disagree with your opinion - at least partially.

I don't know anything about the money matters, so this is not my part.

But:
After the no-show of PX and the pole shift in 2003, Poleshit-Nancy said 2012 is too far out.
And in 2008 Zwaan moves to an appartement just 150 meters away from the coastline - despite the sword of Damocles (in the form of a 100+ feet tsunami rolling over the Netherlands) hanging over him?

Sorry, but I don't buy, that Zwaan is as innocent as you describe him.


.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India


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