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After the no-show of PX and the pole shift in 2003, Poleshit-Nancy said 2012 is too far out.
And in 2008 Zwaan moves to an appartement just 150 meters away from the coastline - despite the sword of Damocles (in the form of a 100+ feet tsunami rolling over the Netherlands) hanging over him?
 Quoting: Hydra


Yup.
As I said, Gerard is not in a position to be able to easily relocate elsewhere. (I wont further detail on that because it is personal.)

But basically yes. He took that appartment 150metres away from the coastline while he expected a EU-Tsunami would occur somewhere in the future.
One of the alternatives discussed was that Gerard would come to Germany once the NM would show significant activity.
Since, I don't expect anything of it to happen I doubt it will come that far but he would be welcome anyway.

I think, the matter we are discussing here is wether Gerard knows what he's "preaching" or wether he doesn't...
From my experience with him I can only say he doesn't. (Which doesn't makes him innocent though)...

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Thanks for confessing your lack of mental capacity. You obviously avoid FACTS that would negate your limited view of things.
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What facts are those? Care to expand on that? And you say I lack mental capacity? Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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The above was "me".
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Yeah, we could all figure that out as soon as you mentioned remote viewing. You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.
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>> You're the only one here that believes in that stuff.

Thanks for confessing your lack of mental capacity. You obviously avoid FACTS that would negate your limited view of things.
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Like Nancy and her believers avoid?
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I have no sympathy for Gertard. He made some nasty comments back when Dell (half of Nancy's defunct px imaging team) came here to tell his story and admit that they imaged nothing. He was around when she finally had to admit that from the start she didn't know that dec and RA are not the same thing as alt and azimuth, yet he still claims Nancy has never been wrong. He may be a nice guy, but he can be a real tool when he's defending Nancy. And we don't have to go looking for him, he comes to us. Maybe he believes Nancy's schtick, but to state after Nancy made an admission like this that she has never been wrong is a lie. He can be rude when he wants to, and he's been around her long enough to see how she treats others. If he is a nice guy like you say, I hope he someday realizes that he's been duped and will apologize for the harm he has helped spread. A nice person notices when someone is being mean and nasty and they either speak out against it or they walk away. He has done neither.
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The brains of the ningtards are still wobbling....

Flareberto goes at it again. And what do we see?
Lenseflares, lenseflares, and lenseflares. You can even see his lenseflares jumping around when he moves the camera.
But for the ningtards this is big cinema. How stupid can some people be. Is there no limit on the poleshift.ning.com (poleshit.ning.com)

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I have no sympathy for Gertard. He made some nasty comments back when Dell (half of Nancy's defunct px imaging team) came here to tell his story and admit that they imaged nothing. He was around when she finally had to admit that from the start she didn't know that dec and RA are not the same thing as alt and azimuth, yet he still claims Nancy has never been wrong. He may be a nice guy, but he can be a real tool when he's defending Nancy. And we don't have to go looking for him, he comes to us. Maybe he believes Nancy's schtick, but to state after Nancy made an admission like this that she has never been wrong is a lie. He can be rude when he wants to, and he's been around her long enough to see how she treats others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


I can totally understand your frustration with him.
However we shouldnt expect rational-thinking from someone who only wants to see one side of the medal.
When someone debates ZetaTalk with a fervent believer, it implies an attack on their personal beliefs and accordingly many react in a very aggressive manner.
Gerard in that regard is a confused guy who is constantly drawn into a corner while Nancy draws out much on his back.

It is pure denial, just like the other Moderators, and just like I defended Nancy when I believed she was saying the truth.

We're guilty. Intended or not... and everyone will pay their price.
So I did.

If he is a nice guy like you say, I hope he someday realizes that he's been duped and will apologize for the harm he has helped spread. A nice person notices when someone is being mean and nasty and they either speak out against it or they walk away. He has done neither.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


I am sure that day will come... (at the latest when Nancy won't be anymore) and I honestly deeply worry about that day as that will be the hardest phase in his life.
Time will tell though... and it might be that he'll make a 180° switch and lash out on Nancy, big time.

We shall see.
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I have no sympathy for Gertard. He made some nasty comments back when Dell (half of Nancy's defunct px imaging team) came here to tell his story and admit that they imaged nothing. He was around when she finally had to admit that from the start she didn't know that dec and RA are not the same thing as alt and azimuth, yet he still claims Nancy has never been wrong. He may be a nice guy, but he can be a real tool when he's defending Nancy. And we don't have to go looking for him, he comes to us. Maybe he believes Nancy's schtick, but to state after Nancy made an admission like this that she has never been wrong is a lie. He can be rude when he wants to, and he's been around her long enough to see how she treats others. If he is a nice guy like you say, I hope he someday realizes that he's been duped and will apologize for the harm he has helped spread. A nice person notices when someone is being mean and nasty and they either speak out against it or they walk away. He has done neither.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


Correct me if I am wrong, but JWD came here and flat out apologised for supporting Nancy's Nonsense(TM) and admitted to being totally wrong and misguided.
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I excused myself from the entire year of 2012 of GLP. Anyone care to update me?

Cheers to you and yours!
Your day will come...
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point form, of course
Your day will come...
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Correct me if I am wrong, but JWD came here and flat out apologised for supporting Nancy's Nonsense(TM) and admitted to being totally wrong and misguided.
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You are correct...and his posts about that might be in this thread somewhere.
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I excused myself from the entire year of 2012 of GLP. Anyone care to update me?

Cheers to you and yours!
 Quoting: GreenTabasco

Thanks.

Nothing changed of course.
The Miss Lieder keeps babbling nonsense.
Her cult-followers believe every word, nobody else does.

Zetas still 100% wrong.
book
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I excused myself from the entire year of 2012 of GLP. Anyone care to update me?

Cheers to you and yours!
 Quoting: GreenTabasco

Thanks.

Nothing changed of course.
The Miss Lieder keeps babbling nonsense.
Her cult-followers believe every word, nobody else does.

Zetas still 100% wrong.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

HD,
you forgot to mention, that there was the "revolutionary red filter invention" (hold an old, dusty floppy disk in front of a cheap cellphone), allowing the ningtards to capture not only Planet X (filter flares at its best) but also the moon swirls (dust on the floppy) with never before seen details.

And more moon swirls every day (because Flarebertos floppy gets dustier every day).

Magically the "revolutionary red filter technique" only works with cheap cellphones - not with decent cameras.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Old Bogusberto got a cell
I-A-I-A-O
And in front of his lense he has some flares ...
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I wish all of you a Happy New Year.



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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Happy New Year to all!
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I wish all of you a Happy New Year.

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Indeed! Happy new Year everyone!
May you all have an interesting and insightful year 2013!
hf

Same counts for the Ningsters...
btw: Nancy already hinted what to expect in the futuretounge:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Reply by Nancy Lieder
.... in case the announcement gets forever delayed.


Correct. It gets forever delayed because it was never planned.
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Happy New Year. So many predicted we'd never see 2013...
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"We have stated that 2012 is not the date, that the pole shift will occur before that year."

"Bear in mind that the Zetas have stated they will NOT give a date, having only made the statement that the date of Dec 21, 2012 is too far in the future, the pole shift occurring before that date, so this 2007 calculation could be entirely wrong, but it lines up remarkably well with what Sylvia Browne stated on the Art Bell show."

"Too far in the future, as the disasters will come before 2012."


All classics from our favorite Wisconsin nut-job.
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"We have stated that 2012 is not the date, that the pole shift will occur before that year."

"Bear in mind that the Zetas have stated they will NOT give a date, having only made the statement that the date of Dec 21, 2012 is too far in the future, the pole shift occurring before that date, so this 2007 calculation could be entirely wrong, but it lines up remarkably well with what Sylvia Browne stated on the Art Bell show."

"Too far in the future, as the disasters will come before 2012."


All classics from our favorite Wisconsin nut-job.
 Quoting: bob_909


+1000

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WTF? How can this be?

[link to video.msnbc.msn.com]

The video and several other news articles stated that 2012 was the safest year for air travel. How can that be? According to Nancy and the "Zetas" GPS is failing, making air travel more hazardous!
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To his credit, yesterday I received a message from him requesting permission to use part of my video. I was driving and didn't have time to reply and in fact I was going to say no and give him an ear-full (and still will), but he didn't even wait 24 hours for a response and used it anyway without giving me an ounce of credit.
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Just an update for this thread, I tried to reply to him today and deny him permission only to find out that he's blocked all messages from non-contacts. He didn't add me as a contact, so there was not even a way I could have denied him permission before he used it without permission.
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It seems as though he received the notice of a copyright violation report, he now edited the description of his video to mention that he didn't take the picture from the 21st, but he still does not credit me or give any link back to the original source. I will be looking for legal representation later this week to contact google so that I may send him a bill.
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After some back and forth with youtube explaining the theft, they shut down his channel. He's already created a new channel and re-uploaded his old videos with the exception of the one that stole my work. He made a new video complaining about the shut down and claiming that it was because of a video that only showed him talking...

Make no mistake, he knows he's lying about that, which is why he disabled comments on that video.
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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

I excused myself from the entire year of 2012 of GLP. Anyone care to update me?

Cheers to you and yours!
 Quoting: GreenTabasco

Thanks.

Nothing changed of course.
The Miss Lieder keeps babbling nonsense.
Her cult-followers believe every word, nobody else does.

Zetas still 100% wrong.
book
 Quoting: Halcyon Dayz, FCD

HD,
you forgot to mention, that there was the "revolutionary red filter invention" (hold an old, dusty floppy disk in front of a cheap cellphone), allowing the ningtards to capture not only Planet X (filter flares at its best) but also the moon swirls (dust on the floppy) with never before seen details.

And more moon swirls every day (because Flarebertos floppy gets dustier every day).

Magically the "revolutionary red filter technique" only works with cheap cellphones - not with decent cameras.


.
 Quoting: Hydra

ha ha...classic. Thanks!
Your day will come...
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Happy new year! Stay safe in 2013!
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Happy new year to everyone!

Thanks for remembering us Nancy`s last dirty hoaxes, Bob.
It was clear for everyone that Nancy`s prediction will only be another scary prank in her long record of scary pranks.

Her prediction success remains at 0%.

The true reason for this is that her world only exists in her head and that there are no zetas in her head.

Nancytalk is and was Nancytalk only. So it is also no surprise that 2012 was the best year for travelling. GPS-systems never heard from Nancy Lieder and her little pranks.
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Happy new year! Stay safe in 2013!
 Quoting: walt


May 2013 bring you all the best of your desires, may 2013 bring common sense to the ning-nongs and Nancy.

PR
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Happy new year,
you voices of reason. When you look at the poleshit.ning.com you will see that they don`t wish each other a happy new year, a merry xmas or something like that. Nancy`s followers always have to live in a world of fear and panic. All the world is sinking and only Nancy and her last few followers know about it or find proofs for it. They live in their own world which is not our world. It is the weird world of a woo-woo-cult.

Meanwhile I finished the true story of Zetatalk in my blog. I hope that COS can live with my perception of the things as I really appreciate his opinion. And I`m definitely no fan of Gerard Zwaan. I think you see him a way too positive, buddy. He is aware of what he does and he is responsible for what he does. Brainwashed or not!
[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]

Especially funny are Flareberto`s latest lenseflare-attacks. It is incredible that someone can believe that aliens couldn`t analyze that these pics are total crap. Nancy`s problem is that she can only hear her own voice in her head: no aliens or something like that. 2012 is over now and we can not only bury Nancy`s last weird theories but also a lot of other theories that were out there. It was the epic fail year for all the gurus, false prophets, self-proclaimed messiahs and other funny persons who were spreading bullshit in the last few years.

But again happy new year, happy new year also to Trinity and his team who make this page here possible.
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Meanwhile I finished the true story of Zetatalk in my blog. I hope that COS can live with my perception of the things as I really appreciate his opinion. And I`m definitely no fan of Gerard Zwaan. I think you see him a way too positive, buddy. He is aware of what he does and he is responsible for what he does. Brainwashed or not!
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 Quoting: VeritasN1


Saw that and I already made my position clear about it here.
I personally do not think that certain part about Gerard is accurate, however as the author you're free to draw your own conclusions and Im fine with it.

BTW: I saw you discussing PX on another german board where "Polspringer" attested he frequently follows the discussion here.
So, Polspringer, how is it that you haven't found substance in any of the presented counter-evidence? (Like the discussions here, Vertias' sum, 2012hoax or my doc to name a few...)

Do you ever listened to yourself?
When I read through your (Polspringers) postings, I see the same arrogant-naivité that I had back then when I generally excluded the Zetas to be wrong.
So you think you are "the german ZT expert" that somehow manages to read between the lines that others cant?
Fool.
As you may know I worked CLOSELY behind the scenes and I am here now, saying Nancy is a Fraud, always been, and you've been brainwashed.

You don't believe the debunkers? They have proof of their claims... unlike Nancy.

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Polspringer is the German Zetamax. No brain, no idea and no knowledge. I have never seen such a stupid and dumb person before. He got lost in cyberspace, with his virtual cult. You can see him post pixelmistakes on the poleshit.ning.com.

He is a poor guy who has no friends and only his cult. Forget about him. His problem is that his brain ended up in the laundry of Nancy Lieder.

In Germany everybody calls him Polspinner, what means the same like man without brain. So it is no surprise that he is one of the last to congratulate Flareberto for his lenseflares.

For Polspinner every lenseflare is enough to stay a brainwashed doomsday-follower.

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BTW: I saw you discussing PX on another german board where "Polspringer" attested he frequently follows the discussion here.
...
So you think you are "the german ZT expert" that somehow manages to read between the lines that others cant?
Fool.
...
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

"Polspringer" - could he/she be "Poli": [link to poleshift.ning.com]


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