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The ning slowly fades....


Today's membership number - 462!
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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On such days it is always very quiet on the Ning-board.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Fuck yeah! Have you seen Nancy's open thread for the Q&A?
Nobody is really interested in her BS-answers anymore.

Victorious truth.

Anyhow, I know most people want the Fraud to be stopped as soon as possible but lets not put these individuals (except LIEder) under constant fire because it seems they just feel drawn into a corner and defend themselves for the sake of it.

Give em time.
The faster they notice the lack of manifestation and interest, the faster they'll question their previous beliefs.
(Hopefully)
hf


They obviously already feel drawn into a corner and just keep defending themselves.



It seems as though he received the notice of a copyright violation report, he now edited the description of his video to mention that he didn't take the picture from the 21st, but he still does not credit me or give any link back to the original source. I will be looking for legal representation later this week to contact google so that I may send him a bill.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

He's baaack... Today I received new messages from him claiming that all images used in his video were his, and that he has filed a counter-claim and will be taking me to court (lol). Well, that's interesting considering in his own video description he admitted that he didn't take the picture from the 21st. He's decided he's going to play internet tough guy about having his video taken down and lie instead, in direct contradiction to his own video description. Well filing a false counter-claim is illegal. I can't see this ending well for him, but it looks like I actually am going to have to find a lawyer. Anyone here do pro bono work?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Gawd. What a dick.
I hate it when people point their anger over being wrong about something towards the one who set it straight.

Hot air in my mind though.... or at least I can't believe he would be so naive to succeed with a false claim.


BTW: Anyone with excessive GLP bans recently?
Whenever I log in with my account I get insta-banned after browsing a couple sites.
Did I hurt someone's (selfish) feelings?
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Give em time.
The faster they notice the lack of manifestation and interest, the faster they'll question their previous beliefs.
(Hopefully)
hf
 Quoting: MaTV 32363307


Or at least lets try to keep the insults aside because this whole issue is probably emotionally overloaded for them already anyway.

Just straight the facts.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

At the latest Ann S. believes her IP got banned by the Gran-cover-up preventing her from posting the "truth" on Phil Plaits bad-astronomy-site:

"Comment by ann s.

Re: Recent ZetaTalk about Phil Plait

"... The Bad Astronomy site run by Phil Plait is yet to be buried, and the atrocious Wikipedia article on ZetaTalk corrected, but these are in the works." [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Phil Plait is busy, busy, busy posting articles at slate.com where he pretends everything is normal and "explains" away what phenomena or events we know are actually due to the near presence of Planet X.

Along with GLP, Slate may be banning anyone who attempts to post about Planet X or Nibiru (specifically on Phil's daily articles there), although this, naturally, is never stated.

The below error message comes up over and over again, but apparently not for all who attempt to post on Phil's articles. My most recent attempt was to tell the truth about the increase in fireballs on his article for January 16, 2013, but it is a total no-go and I think I know why: The cover up! Can I prove my IP has been banned at Slate? Of course not, but it sure appears that way. But the paid shills who lurk on Phil's articles at Slate have no difficulty at all, and they are generally really fast with their ridicule that could have been taken straight out of a paid debunker's playbook: Ridicule the poster with "take your meds" or "where is your tin foil hat?"
There was a server error while trying to submit your item. Please try again in a few minutes. Error: "internal_error".
"



But what truth?
Another Zeta-article with empty claims? Where's the statistics, some scientific, solid research?
Where's the "undeniable" evidence?
Alberto's images? Gordon's flickery animation of the "earth wobble"? The pixel-errors on Soho?

Maybe I just type in the wrong keywords? Where are these articles of factual correlation?

I just can't find them while earth keeps revolving around the sun.

Or lets ask that way,
may I copy n paste "this truth" for you over there?
How about using another computer, or go to local wifi-network?

On the other hand...No. Forget it... It surely must be the grand-cover-up. Watch out... and stay in.
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Of course it couldn't be a server issue, like the error message says, it's got to be part of a huge conspiracy to silence a failed internet scamster that currently has fewer than 500 members on her ning. I bet TPTB are spending BILLIONS on this cover up! ROFLMAO!!!!!
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Reply from Kris H. on the zetatalk chat

"Hi Nancy, it has been a while since my last question! I was wondering if the Zetas would discuss why there seems to have been a drop off in questions for Zetatalk? Has the suppression of major earth movements, while waiting for the Nibiru announcement, left people with little to question? Or are contactees simply getting their answers directly to their subconscious and satisfying their curiosity in that way? Thanks as always."

Maybe its because if any body asks a sensible question they'll be Instabanned
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And now for something else.

Let's forget about Zeta-Nancy-whackos for awhile. They are over and done with. They will dwindle and go away.

Now, some other interesting tidbits:

A psychic named 'Vine' from Australia is calling for these predictions in 2013:

[link to www.vinemedium.com.au]

- Earthquake in Chile
- New surface land forming, worldwide seabed phenomenon
- Record flooding beyond Pakistan and India

Also, I ran into some claimed (haven't verified) Billy Meier channelings from claimed aliens throughout 50s and 70s. Some hand picked examples (from claimed prophecies from 1951):

- ozone layer destruction
- climate warming incl. increased likelihood of storms
- deluges, landslides (esp. in overpopulated areas)
- television and computer in every home
- sect leaders will pump money from gullible through schemes and fear, claiming end of the world (in 2000) and aliens being the saviors
- new viral epidemics, some transferred from animals to humans

Source: [link to www.futureofmankind.co.uk]

BTW, often he gives no years, just vague timelines. Also, he distinguishes between prophecies (may come true, depends on humanity) and predictions (will come true, are already set in motion).

Then some other claimed prophecies (claimed to be from '58):

- Soviet Union will dissolve by 1991 at the latest
- Germany will be reunified
- War to Iraq lead by USA
- 2nd war to Iraq lead by the former president's son, in 3rd millenium
- Genetic manipulation by humans on fauna and flora before 2000
- Rapid advancement of computer technology at the end of 90s
- AIDS will develop by 80s and spread worldwide
- in 2000s there will be economical fraud, million dollar bonuses/golden handshakes, indebtedness, fiat credit and all this results in misery
- by 1993 European Union dictatoships will rise incl. biometric implant for all citizens
- huge deluge of asylum seekers will start before 2000 and asylum seekers will shop around for where to go
- CFCs will destroy atmosphere, resulting in increase of melanoma
- cutting of rainforests will start to reduce oxygen in the atmosphere unnoticeably

[link to www.futureofmankind.co.uk]

I cherry-picked, there are so many of them, many are too vague, hard to test or did not/have not come true.

There are much more at the same web site.

Take it away, boys!

PS. I'm not a believer of his prophecies, nor do I believe with certainty that they were given when claimed. I remain on the fence. I do NOT know. That is the only sane position, unless there is more facts.
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"Comment by ann s.

Re: Recent ZetaTalk about Phil Plait

"... The Bad Astronomy site run by Phil Plait is yet to be buried, and the atrocious Wikipedia article on ZetaTalk corrected, but these are in the works." [link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: MaTV 32363307

IOW she advocating censorship and vandalism.

"Phil Plait is busy, busy, busy posting articles at slate.com where he pretends everything is normal and "explains" away what phenomena or events we know are actually due to the near presence of Planet X."
 Quoting: MaTV 32363307

Of cause all astronomy bloggers do that.

But Plait is the one who exposed Miss Lieder's Bad Astronomy.
So Nancy has a grudge against and an obsession with the guy.
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It rots the mind and blackens the heart.


Hi! My name is Halcyon Dayz and I'm addicted to morans.
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Reply from Kris H. on the zetatalk chat

"Hi Nancy, it has been a while since my last question! I was wondering if the Zetas would discuss why there seems to have been a drop off in questions for Zetatalk? Has the suppression of major earth movements, while waiting for the Nibiru announcement, left people with little to question? Or are contactees simply getting their answers directly to their subconscious and satisfying their curiosity in that way? Thanks as always."

Maybe its because if any body asks a sensible question they'll be Instabanned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32417919


lol,
I think it must be due to: " Or .. contactees simply get their answers directly to their subconscious and satisfying their curiosity in that way?"
abduct

All those who are left graduated to dimension "X".
No need to ask Nancy and the Nancy's directly anymore.

And now for something else.

Let's forget about Zeta-Nancy-whackos for awhile. They are over and done with. They will dwindle and go away.

Now, some other interesting tidbits:

A psychic named 'Vine' from Australia is calling for these predictions in 2013:

[link to www.vinemedium.com.au]

- Earthquake in Chile
- New surface land forming, worldwide seabed phenomenon
- Record flooding beyond Pakistan and India

Also, I ran into some claimed (haven't verified) Billy Meier channelings from claimed aliens throughout 50s and 70s. Some hand picked examples (from claimed prophecies from 1951):

- ozone layer destruction
- climate warming incl. increased likelihood of storms
- deluges, landslides (esp. in overpopulated areas)
- television and computer in every home
- sect leaders will pump money from gullible through schemes and fear, claiming end of the world (in 2000) and aliens being the saviors
- new viral epidemics, some transferred from animals to humans

Source: [link to www.futureofmankind.co.uk]

BTW, often he gives no years, just vague timelines. Also, he distinguishes between prophecies (may come true, depends on humanity) and predictions (will come true, are already set in motion).

Then some other claimed prophecies (claimed to be from '58):

- Soviet Union will dissolve by 1991 at the latest
- Germany will be reunified
- War to Iraq lead by USA
- 2nd war to Iraq lead by the former president's son, in 3rd millenium
- Genetic manipulation by humans on fauna and flora before 2000
- Rapid advancement of computer technology at the end of 90s
- AIDS will develop by 80s and spread worldwide
- in 2000s there will be economical fraud, million dollar bonuses/golden handshakes, indebtedness, fiat credit and all this results in misery
- by 1993 European Union dictatoships will rise incl. biometric implant for all citizens
- huge deluge of asylum seekers will start before 2000 and asylum seekers will shop around for where to go
- CFCs will destroy atmosphere, resulting in increase of melanoma
- cutting of rainforests will start to reduce oxygen in the atmosphere unnoticeably

[link to www.futureofmankind.co.uk]

I cherry-picked, there are so many of them, many are too vague, hard to test or did not/have not come true.

There are much more at the same web site.

Take it away, boys!

PS. I'm not a believer of his prophecies, nor do I believe with certainty that they were given when claimed. I remain on the fence. I do NOT know. That is the only sane position, unless there is more facts.
 Quoting: Pathaka


I don't get your drift mate.
Do any of these have something has a "track record" (and I mean a true trackrecord unlike Nancy's wannabe record) ??

Even one occurence where they clearly predicted something which would come true?

Why bother with this BS?

Looks like just another LIEder, Masters or Galatic Federation of BS in my mind.
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Or lets ask this way,

How can something be predicted that includes ,millions of human decisions?

If someone claims to predict stuff as "reunions" of people or whatever, they invariably include something as "destiny" in their prophecy.


Do you believe in "destiny"?
Or do you think you can actually change your future by taking action?

Hm?
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hehe! Another Gold Comedy,
they simply don't want to acknowledge that people have gone away and turned their backs to Nancy:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
" Comment by ann s.

As I keep saying, the PS ning is about readership, although the ning would be nothing without its posting members.

The number of unique readers revealed by Nancy is really outstanding, especially for a ning. Please note once and for all, paid shills, that readership is rising and is happening with less than 500 members!

Those statistics, who is reading, and the fact the PS ning is a wonderful home for the ZetaTalk Chat may explain why the professional liars/paid shills continue to ridicule Nancy Lieder, the PS ning, Gerard Zwaan, and some PS ning members.

Thank you, Nancy, Gerard, the all-volunteer moderating staff, and ning members.

Comment by Nancy Lieder on January 17, 2013:

"... the ning has reduced the number of members down from 5,000 to 500 or so, deliberately. The goal is to reduce the amount of hand wringing, wailing, and lazy questions - all of which amount to work on the moderators part and no quality of product for the readership. And I might add for the Zetas and myself. The number of readers also has risen from half a million unique readers in a month to a million. Repeat this to yourself a dozen times each morning - "quality not quantity". Thank you." (Emphasis added.) [link to poleshift.ning.com]
"


Yes Numbers are telling indeed.

- The blogs barely get a couple thousand hits anymore (while in the past they would get thousands in a DAY). - The debunkers blog actually was the most popular. (And don't forget that everytime you reload the page you count as an additional Hit)

- Readers and ZT Questions have been on the decrease dramatically...(and surely not due to a lack of existing questions)

- What does Statcounter say? Still even getting 10.000 unique visitors a day on the Ning?
I doubt. Do yourself the favor and go watch for yourself (to the Moderators).

- May Nancy be so pleasent to validate her claims of a "million visitors"?

- Doesn't it sound highly unrealistic that she gets increased attention when the exact opposite seems to be the case?



Of course you won't get any proof from her...Beside hits say nothing about authenticity. And beside Nancy just tries to desperately make herself more important.

Just because many read, follow or believe something, doesn't mean it is MORE authentic.
In that manner, yes, quality not quantity.

And Nancy doesn't has either (and she knows it).
It must suck to be you Nancy, doesn't it?

You may get off the Titanic...or stay and bear the consequences.
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It seems as though he received the notice of a copyright violation report, he now edited the description of his video to mention that he didn't take the picture from the 21st, but he still does not credit me or give any link back to the original source. I will be looking for legal representation later this week to contact google so that I may send him a bill.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

He's baaack... Today I received new messages from him claiming that all images used in his video were his, and that he has filed a counter-claim and will be taking me to court (lol). Well, that's interesting considering in his own video description he admitted that he didn't take the picture from the 21st. He's decided he's going to play internet tough guy about having his video taken down and lie instead, in direct contradiction to his own video description. Well filing a false counter-claim is illegal. I can't see this ending well for him, but it looks like I actually am going to have to find a lawyer. Anyone here do pro bono work?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


the strange thing about a lot of this type of people is that the believe their own bullshit.
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The sad thing about these cult-victims is that they are trying to let Indonesia sink again. Indonesia always was and remained an open wound for the Zeta-followers. This step should have marked the beginning of their 7 of 10,- but it has never happened. Back at the end of 2010 crazy Nancy claimed that around 80 percent of Indonesia would sink and drown within two weeks. Of course nothing happened.

Later Nancy tried the same dirty prank with so many other countries out there: Malaysia, Thailand, Pakistan, Kuba, Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Philippines…(just to name a few)! But of course it has never worked. Back at the beginning of 2012 Nancy Lieder even claimed that cities like Jakarta, Bangkok and Phnom Penh were totally under water (between 40 to 80 feet): forever gone. Of course this was another hoax. When the rainy season was over the flooding was over like hundreds of years before.

This was so hard for the true followers to believe and they tried and tried and tried to find evidence for the sinking of these countries. Nancy and her last cult-victims developed a real flood fetish. I bet dirty people like Ann S. and Polspinner were masturbating while they saw some poor people losing everything and drowning. It made them so horny to see some people in the heavy monsoon rains. And they felt so sad after the flooding was gone some weeks later. Welcome in a cult without every connection to reality!

Now they are getting ruttish again because there is the rainy season in many countries of Asia. In a few weeks they will feel so sad again because the rains will be over. Then they will probably tell each other some new hoaxes about an announcement of Obama, show each other some lenseflares (as in the last two years) and wait and wait … And the original topic will be censored. Sometimes your destiny is a part of your stupidity.

Life in a cult is not easy! And if your guru is an old crazy woman you will soon act crazy yourself. I still remember a certain hotel at Bali beach. The name of it was Poppies. Nancy claimed that the whole area there was deep under water in February/March 2011. Guess what?
It is still an attraction for tourists from all over the world! Watch the webcam and decide yourself!
[link to www.poppies.net]

Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 01/17/2013 02:11 PM
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Nancy and her last cult-victims developed a real flood fetish. I bet dirty people like Ann S. and Polspinner were masturbating while they saw some poor people losing everything and drowning. It made them so horny to see some people in the heavy monsoon rains. And they felt so sad after the flooding was gone some weeks later. Welcome in a cult without every connection to reality!
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Whow. Now that is a heap of adrenaline.
Chill bro.
Even though they are members of an irrational cult doesn't make them monsters.
I doubt they would actually like to see people drowning, although of course they feel exited whenever they seemingly see progress toward "the end and the new beginning" (in their minds an overall betterment).
It is irrational. Denial is prevalent among the ways of their thinking.
Actually, when the Moderators expected Indonesia to be sinking soon they send out letters to all Indonesian-members and told them what they expected.

Of course it was highly misleading and (unawarely) manipulating these individuals but it doesn't change the fact these "believers" actually believed they'd do the right thing (helping these people).

Again, they're not aware that they're misleading people with their supposed beliefs.

Why the hard feelings?

They're humans. And this applies for Nancy too.
Even though she was arrogant enough to assume her past actions wouldn't come after her.
But thats it and there we are on this planet we call "Earth". Lessons.
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I don't get your drift mate.
Do any of these have something has a "track record" (and I mean a true trackrecord unlike Nancy's wannabe record) ??

Even one occurence where they clearly predicted something which would come true?

Why bother with this BS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32410462


One can only have a track record if a trusted 3rd party tests the predictions.

The above are CLAIMS by people who have translated Meier's stuff to dozen(+) languages to be the original prophecies/predictions he made in the 50s.

If that is true (I don't know), then that's a decent enough track record, even without counting the false positives (and yes, they should be counted also).

So my drift is to ask those who may be more familiar with Meier case to try and assess his claims.



Looks like just another LIEder, Masters or Galatic Federation of BS in my mind.


Sorry, not familiar with those at all.
Pathaka
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" Comment by ann s.

As I keep saying, the PS ning is about readership, although the ning would be nothing without its posting members.

The number of unique readers revealed by Nancy is really outstanding, especially for a ning. Please note once and for all, paid shills, that readership is rising and is happening with less than 500 members!

Those statistics, who is reading, and the fact the PS ning is a wonderful home for the ZetaTalk Chat may explain why the professional liars/paid shills continue to ridicule Nancy Lieder, the PS ning, Gerard Zwaan, and some PS ning members.

Thank you, Nancy, Gerard, the all-volunteer moderating staff, and ning members.

Comment by Nancy Lieder on January 17, 2013:

"... the ning has reduced the number of members down from 5,000 to 500 or so, deliberately. The goal is to reduce the amount of hand wringing, wailing, and lazy questions - all of which amount to work on the moderators part and no quality of product for the readership. And I might add for the Zetas and myself. The number of readers also has risen from half a million unique readers in a month to a million. Repeat this to yourself a dozen times each morning - "quality not quantity". Thank you." (Emphasis added.) [link to poleshift.ning.com]
"



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According to alexa:

Last 7 days - down 27.94%
Reach - 0.0023% - less than 60,000 internet users
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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"... the ning has reduced the number of members down from 5,000 to 500 or so, deliberately."
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Pure spin and pure bullshit.
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I see Ann S. hasn't stepped up to the challenge. Big surprise there. Guess that makes "debunkers" right again by default.

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It`s always the same with those ningtards. They talk a lot and abuse scientific data they dont understand. But if you ask them to verify their results or compare them seriously with public available data they will run.

They know that they represent pure nonsense. But in their cult this nonsense got a kind of religion which makes them blind and brainwashed.
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@COS:
They might be human beings but some who completely lost their way. They are to deep in absorbing the system of their cult. Of course they gave out false infos to the poor people in Indonesia back in 2010. But they never learn from their mistakes and now they start congratulating themselves again for finding some pics of rain time flooding. This is very poor and despicable.

They are so horny for these catastrophies and tragedies around the world to prove themselves their superstition. I feel no understanding for that, especially because they use this disinformation to spread new fear and abuse among the last believers. So I can see no place for chilling.

To be honest the whole message of Nancy Liar which describes an apocalypse as a message of hope sounds highly fascistic and fundamentalist to me. Such a cataclysm – which of course is a bad hoax – would wipe out around 90 percent of earth`s population. We would have a body count here which would be far more distastrous as the last two world wars together. So when somebody describes that as a message of hope this clearly indicates that he is more than insane. Without any doubt!

And then we have here this Alberto Cardin aka Flareberto, the greatest astronomer of the world, who uses a cell phone with the storage disk of an obsolete floppy in front of his lense as his favourite “telescope” of choice. Nobody out there felt compassion enough for him to give him a real telescope. And so he discovers endless Nibirus and moon constellations (in their cult language “bullies” and “moon swirls”) which simply are lenseflares. According to crazy Nancy Nibiru arrived here with nine moons. Thanks to Alberto they have at least 900 moons and around 50 Nibirus now which don`t follow any normal orbit – like all other well known celestial bodies – but rather Flareberto`s cell phone. In Flareberto`s latest “great” clip they seem to move even faster than with lightspeed. Congratulations to such outstanding results, Bumberto! Of course thousands of astronomers – both professionals and amateurs – can see nothing there with their real professional equipment. Hot air stays hot air.

In Nancy`s cult world even moons and planets seem to reproduce each other and this without any limit. As their waiting for real objects will be endless we can soon await hundreds of more moons and Nibirus. Gravity never was a topic for them, as they form a cult without any real connection to reality. Apparently in a magnetic world moons attract hundreds of other moons and Nibirus find more and more Nibiru-friends out there: and that all in front of our sun. Perhaps we should call this intergalactic friendship!


Comedy gold at its best! Thanks to Flareberto and friends! Pure satire and foiling themselves! We seem to live in the sun system with the most undiscovered planets and moons: and of course all of them are in front of our sun, so that nobody can miss them! Nancy`s dog and pony show is in town again! It could be funny, if it wasn`t so sad. The stupidity of human beings is endless.

If they find a second Flareberto – perhaps with some photoshop at home – we will soon see Gerard Zwaan riding on one of this moons and waving to the last 200 followers of the cult. And perhaps he meets Ann S. there and this will get an eternal friendship. Two passengers who ride on moons.scaredaloneviolin

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"... the ning has reduced the number of members down from 5,000 to 500 or so, deliberately."
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Pure spin and pure bullshit.
 Quoting: Menow 32480245


You're right - pure spin and bullshit.


Yep, they deliberately reduced the number of members - hah!

It's now down to 459.
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Maybe it'll be down to less than 100 by the end of the year.
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Nancy Lieder has lost more than 90 percent of her members during the last year. So the trend continues. People do not buy her shit so easily anymore. And last year she made so many apparent mistakes and hoaxes that most people recognized that there are no Zetas around. It is only Nancy who is trying her usual pranks with her last few members.

It could be that till the end of the year Zwaan deliberately closes the Ning as he will awake too. And with only around 50 active members left there is not enough money coming in anymore.

Zwaan should finally close the Ning and stop the fraud.
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If Nancy has a million visitors, I wonder why her Newsletter has so few hits?

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

After more than 48hours: 2500 hits....
Counting refreshing pages etc: say 2000 hits.

I guess, the other 998.000 people either don't read it at all or they read it directly at ZT.com site (where nobody can really see the stats), or (seems HIGHLY UNREALISTIC (sarcasm))
she doesn't has these followers at all.

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If Nancy has a million visitors, I wonder why her Newsletter has so few hits?

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

After more than 48hours: 2500 hits....
Counting refreshing pages etc: say 2000 hits.

I guess, the other 998.000 people either don't read it at all or they read it directly at ZT.com site (where nobody can really see the stats), or (seems HIGHLY UNREALISTIC (sarcasm))
she doesn't has these followers at all.

s226
 Quoting: MaTV 32410462


btw, looks like 0,2% of these "Million viewers" actually really follow the progress...

Lets you wonder what the other 99,8% are doing 1rof11rof1

Gawd Nancy. Even claiming half a million would be unrealistic as fuck...

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Ha. Ha. Nancy lying again. We left Jakarta in 2010 to go to a safe location. Now Im with some friends in Malaysa, Johor Bahru….what a shame Nancy Lieder is for the human kind.

In March we have enuff money to go back to Jakarta. This old skunk Lieder and her wrong advices.

Dont listn to liars.

Diju
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If Nancy has a million visitors, I wonder why her Newsletter has so few hits?

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

After more than 48hours: 2500 hits....
Counting refreshing pages etc: say 2000 hits.

I guess, the other 998.000 people either don't read it at all or they read it directly at ZT.com site (where nobody can really see the stats), or (seems HIGHLY UNREALISTIC (sarcasm))
she doesn't has these followers at all.

s226
 Quoting: MaTV 32410462


Alexa numbers for zetatalk:

Daily pageviews (7 day) - 0.000037% (8880/day)
Daily pageviews (1 month) - 0.000059% (12000/day)
Reach (1 month) - 0.0020% - 480,000 internet users

Alexa numbers for poleshit:

Daily pageviews (7 day) - 0.000050% (14160/day)
Daily pageviews (1 month) - 0.000058% (13920/day)
Reach (1 month) - 0.0028% - 672,000 internet users

Alexa numbers for godlike:

Daily pageviews (7 day) - 0.00190% (456000/day)
Daily pageviews (1 month) - 0.00215% (516000/day)
Reach (1 month) - 0.0408% - 9,792,000 internet users

According to the latest statistics, there are roughly 2.4 billion internet users in the world (pageview and reach numbers above use this number).



As usual, Nancy is inflating numbers again just like she did years ago when she was counting server hits instead of unique users to inflate her claims of zetatalk's popularity (I came up with this conclusion when it was possible to look at her site's actual statistics).
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Ha. Ha. Nancy lying again. We left Jakarta in 2010 to go to a safe location. Now Im with some friends in Malaysa, Johor Bahru….what a shame Nancy Lieder is for the human kind.

In March we have enuff money to go back to Jakarta. This old skunk Lieder and her wrong advices.

Dont listn to liars.

Diju
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Hi Diju!
I remember your presence from the Ning.

Sorry to hear you had trouble.
Hope all goes well with your plans so you can live a "normal" life again.

Yes Nancy's advises are very troublesome indeed..

My best wishes,
hf
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Ha. Ha. Nancy lying again. We left Jakarta in 2010 to go to a safe location. Now Im with some friends in Malaysa, Johor Bahru….what a shame Nancy Lieder is for the human kind.

In March we have enuff money to go back to Jakarta. This old skunk Lieder and her wrong advices.

Dont listn to liars.

Diju
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Hi Diju!
I remember your presence from the Ning.

Sorry to hear you had trouble.
Hope all goes well with your plans so you can live a "normal" life again.

Yes Nancy's advises are very troublesome indeed..

My best wishes,
hf
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Looks like Nancy is now collecting Money for the "close circle".
Andrew (I like him as a person) who is in a rather troublesome situation can now recieve donations on the PS-Ning.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Isn't it ironic?
Nancy contributed to his situation for a great part and now she's playing social welfare to better his situation.

How about Diju? How about the others that moved to "safe locations" and are still waiting for that darn Planet to show up?

Screw her false motives and her bloody cash.
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Well, I suppose it had to happen eventually. 74444 here, and it looks like I've been permanently banned from GLP. I suppose I crushed IDW one too many times. Ah, well. Someone else will need to remind him of his upcoming failures on both the summer and winter solstices, and the fact we're still here in January, 2014.

So I'm here at a coffee shop, and wanted to say so long to people, at least until I get unbanned someday. I want to say thanks to all the various debunkers for a lot of fun over the years.

To Nancy and the other zeta-lurkers reading this: your inabity to rationally defend your position either here or elsewhere demonstrates that your *idea* is weak, not anything wrong with your critics. This year, PX will now be a *decade* overdue. How long will you wait until you can admit that Nancy is simply and finally wrong? Ever?

I'll check to see if I am still banned from time to time, so until such time as I'm not, be well.
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Well, I suppose it had to happen eventually. 74444 here, and it looks like I've been permanently banned from GLP. I suppose I crushed IDW one too many times. Ah, well. Someone else will need to remind him of his upcoming failures on both the summer and winter solstices, and the fact we're still here in January, 2014.

So I'm here at a coffee shop, and wanted to say so long to people, at least until I get unbanned someday. I want to say thanks to all the various debunkers for a lot of fun over the years.

To Nancy and the other zeta-lurkers reading this: your inabity to rationally defend your position either here or elsewhere demonstrates that your *idea* is weak, not anything wrong with your critics. This year, PX will now be a *decade* overdue. How long will you wait until you can admit that Nancy is simply and finally wrong? Ever?

I'll check to see if I am still banned from time to time, so until such time as I'm not, be well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1513279


The ban thing seems to be fairly random and without much real basis. Were you just banned from a specific thread? Seems that if you click on that thread again a ban kicks in, but you can reboot and still access the forum in general. I don't know for sure. Try that. We'll miss you.


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