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Looks like IDW is stepping into Astromut's turf...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 409)

His thoughts on telescopes. The thoughts seem... uninformed.
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Noted, thank you for the heads-up!
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Some comedy from the queen of delusion and bullshit:

Astro even gets mention.
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Looks like IDW is stepping into Astromut's turf...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 409)

His thoughts on telescopes. The thoughts seem... uninformed.
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Noted, thank you for the heads-up!
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You're quite welcome. If he engages with *you* about telescopes, I'm totally making popcorn.
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Some comedy from the queen of delusion and bullshit:

Astro even gets mention.

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1rof1
I couldnt listen more than a minute and half..

"There will be many taking the stage claiming to be experts" - seconds later she claims there's only one real way to the Truth and that only those who credit ZetaTard may be listened to (at all).

lol. Guess that must be the scientific approach of the "Zetas". Our word is absolute, yours is nothing.

Oh well :) phantasies of an ol'homo esotericus.
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Some comedy from the queen of delusion and bullshit:

Astro even gets mention.

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1rof1
I couldnt listen more than a minute and half..

"There will be many taking the stage claiming to be experts" - seconds later she claims there's only one real way to the Truth and that only those who credit ZetaTard may be listened to (at all).

lol. Guess that must be the scientific approach of the "Zetas". Our word is absolute, yours is nothing.

Oh well :) phantasies of an ol'homo esotericus.
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On a second note, I find it rather amusing how Nancy talks about herself, of course while using the "ZetaTard" abstraction.
It hears like:

"bla bla.. ZetaTard was the only one and first to predict the earth wobble"

".... Nancy saying the Truth"

"there will be people claiming to say the truth but they aren't but Nancy is saying the truth"

"...theres only one real truth and that is ZetaTard"


How reassuring!
I guess words speak louder than actions for the believers.

btw, may one of them so kind and point me to the "proof of the earth wobble" again? cruise
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In a nutshell, do not trust anyone but Nancy and Obama. Anyone who denies ZT is not to be trusted. Even some who say they support ZT are not to be trusted, according to Nancy. This is one of her most delusional, paranoid and funniest Zeta Reports to date.
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Some comedy from the queen of delusion and bullshit:

Astro even gets mention.

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Wow, pure cult insanity and brainwashing. I really don't appreciate the defamation; to me the worst part is that she lumped me in with the likes of Donny Gilson and Dutchinese. I mean come on, if you're going to slander a whole slew of people, at least group me with other debunkers like Phil Plait, not woo-woo idiots. That's just plain mean spirited.
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Some comedy from the queen of delusion and bullshit:

Astro even gets mention.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


Wow, pure cult insanity and brainwashing. I really don't appreciate the defamation; to me the worst part is that she lumped me in with the likes of Donny Gilson and Dutchinese. I mean come on, if you're going to slander a whole slew of people, at least group me with other debunkers like Phil Plait, not woo-woo idiots. That's just plain mean spirited.
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Yeah, I noticed that too, Dr. Astro. Just consider the source.
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Looks like IDW is stepping into Astromut's turf...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 409)

His thoughts on telescopes. The thoughts seem... uninformed.
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I guess Meade didn't get the memo. They've been running at the least months behind everyone. The current Autostar update is from the middle of January 2013 and the earlier version is from August 2012. Both, of course, require connecting the controller to a computer.

Celestron is even further behind the curve. They haven't issued a software update since 2007.

IDW is FULL OF CRAP, as usual.
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Looks like IDW is stepping into Astromut's turf...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 409)

His thoughts on telescopes. The thoughts seem... uninformed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


I guess Meade didn't get the memo. They've been running at the least months behind everyone. The current Autostar update is from the middle of January 2013 and the earlier version is from August 2012. Both, of course, require connecting the controller to a computer.

Celestron is even further behind the curve. They haven't issued a software update since 2007.

IDW is FULL OF CRAP, as usual.
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And my LX200 classic can't even be updated without physically removing the memory chips.
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Looks like IDW is stepping into Astromut's turf...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 409)

His thoughts on telescopes. The thoughts seem... uninformed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Noted, thank you for the heads-up!
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You're quite welcome. If he engages with *you* about telescopes, I'm totally making popcorn.
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This is too easy, to be honest. For some reason I was expecting... more, somehow.
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Looks like IDW is stepping into Astromut's turf...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 409)

His thoughts on telescopes. The thoughts seem... uninformed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


Noted, thank you for the heads-up!
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


You're quite welcome. If he engages with *you* about telescopes, I'm totally making popcorn.
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This is too easy, to be honest. For some reason I was expecting... more, somehow.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


He certainly isn't frothing at his best. But tell you what, feel free to check my work over there, and correct me if I'm wrong, or even if you think there are better ways to describe the ideas. Thanks to Bob for information, too. I particularly like it when the posts can both correct IDW as well as be generally educational.

It's how *I* learn, anyway. Shocking that IDW/A.A doesn't after being corrected so many times...

I enjoyed reading your posts over there, Asto. Thanks, much.
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On a second note, I find it rather amusing how Nancy talks about herself, of course while using the "ZetaTard" abstraction.
It hears like:

"bla bla.. ZetaTard was the only one and first to predict the earth wobble"

".... Nancy saying the Truth"

"there will be people claiming to say the truth but they aren't but Nancy is saying the truth"

"...theres only one real truth and that is ZetaTard"


How reassuring!
I guess words speak louder than actions for the believers.

btw, may one of them so kind and point me to the "proof of the earth wobble" again? cruise
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Sounds like a religion doesn't it?
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Some comedy from the queen of delusion and bullshit:

Astro even gets mention.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


"Planet X" is becoming undeniable? When did this happen? Funny how I haven't overheard anyone talking about it where I live. Not in any restaurant. Not in any store. Not at work. How can this be? Oh, wait - I know...the evil government got to them all and told them not to talk about it. And "violent wobble?" Funny how GPS and other satellite services continue to work just as they should. Sunrise and sunset times are exactly as they were three years ago. And what proof does she have there was ever any directive issued by the Reagan administration that was recently lifted by Obama? Anything? No, of course not. But her sheep believe it all because she said so. But now that Obama has lifted this directive, why hasn't he made any announcement about "Planet X?" He was supposed to do it back in September! It's now mid-February and not a peep from him about it. Not even at the SOTU. What's her excuse as to why it hasn't happened? What does he have to lose? Assuming the Dictator in Chief doesn't change the Constitution, this is his last term. So what's stopping him from making the announcement? Wait - let me guess: George Bush.

I see she still looks off to the right instead of right at the camera. At least she doesn't look like she just got out of bed in this video.

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The morons are going bonkers about the Russian meteor...

I especially liked one of Ann's posts:

"The lack of truth in the media about recent fireballs and another close asteroid passage is appalling: The Russian fireball event has NO modern day precedent, none; this has never happened in living memory (excluding Tunguska which was a methane explosion) and certainly not on the same day as an asteroid passage and several other large fireballs. (The increase in fireballs is not new, but the attention given the subject in order to debunk it is new.)"

I like how short-sighted she is..."never happened in living memory...". Wow, that's only got to be around 100 years out of the planet's billions of years.

She knows it was a methane explosion? Was she there? Only one theorist came up with that one. General consensus was either a meteor or comet air burst.

Now if you want to see complete lunacy, go over to Cheryl's ning - they're all over the place with idiocy...

Funny...she's never figured out that I've been a registered member there for years without discovery...

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I'd love to see geologic data about Tunguska. If Nancy believes there's piles of methane there, I'd expect it is bare as can be...
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The problem of Nancy`s cult people is that they live in a world of pseudoscientific superstition. They abuse data they don’t understand and make ridiculous planets out of it. They don’t even care about the actual position of SOHO or other NASA-instruments they use. They just try to press these pixelmistakes and other scary stuff (like fantasy-planets they observe through old floppy disks) into their cult world. Even Nancy`s latest cult-clip has some very strong esoteric and religious aspects. She tries to keep on brainwashing her last few followers.

Of course the meteor in Russia was a big sign for them to foster their cult-religion. And again they ignore all the real facts. Especially Ann S. should not only read the hoaxes on the Ning but also study some normal literature. I don t even want to imagine how the Ningtards would have freaked out if there was an event like Tunguska. They would all sink on their knees and worship their golden calf Nibiru. The stupid is strong there. I appreciate the good job Astromut does out there to teach the people some real facts and astronomic knowledge, but for most of the hardcore followers of crazy Nancy this will be too late.

I also visited Cheryl Nelson`s Ning today and I was shocked too. They are trying to form their own woo-woo-cult which is nearly as stupid as the one of Nancy Lieder. And who is that “astropyhsicist” Jim McCanney who claims that a mini solar system has entered our solar system? Does he really think that nobody could see a second sun which enters our solar system. Nancytalk and Cheryl Nelson could both apply for the ultimate freak cult. If they freaked out together this could get a real show but probably one nobody wants to see.
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another do
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Another huge fail..

Not sure if Howard wanted to test Nancy or wether he didn't checked this further but the Ningsters believe that tiny dot on the batsrus-model ACE graph is the dark twin.
1dunno1

Didn't Nancy said that Dark Twin is as the size of earth?
So its supposed to move around like that and the only influence on our magnetosphere is that "little dot"?
Again 1dunno11rof1

Maybe he'll get a clue as to what the dot is - if he checks the other plots:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Oh dear. At least you have her irrational explanation all over it. Now figure it out.
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So IDW utterly ignored Astro's questions, and started talking about weather instead.

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Funny, if transparent.
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I also visited Cheryl Nelson`s Ning today and I was shocked too. They are trying to form their own woo-woo-cult which is nearly as stupid as the one of Nancy Lieder. And who is that “astropyhsicist” Jim McCanney who claims that a mini solar system has entered our solar system? Does he really think that nobody could see a second sun which enters our solar system. Nancytalk and Cheryl Nelson could both apply for the ultimate freak cult. If they freaked out together this could get a real show but probably one nobody wants to see.
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Cheryl's ning is the result of a rather nasty falling out between Nancy and Cheryl. She, of course, took some the former die-hard ningtards with her when she left. There's no love lost between those two.
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another do
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
Another huge fail..

Not sure if Howard wanted to test Nancy or wether he didn't checked this further but the Ningsters believe that tiny dot on the batsrus-model ACE graph is the dark twin.
1dunno1

Didn't Nancy said that Dark Twin is as the size of earth?
So its supposed to move around like that and the only influence on our magnetosphere is that "little dot"?
Again 1dunno11rof1

Maybe he'll get a clue as to what the dot is - if he checks the other plots:
[link to ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Oh dear. At least you have her irrational explanation all over it. Now figure it out.
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How freaking stupid are they? If that 'black dot' was the dark twin it would less than four Earth diameters distance from the Earth. It would be looming large in the sky.
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The morons are going bonkers about the Russian meteor...

I especially liked one of Ann's posts:

"The lack of truth in the media about recent fireballs and another close asteroid passage is appalling: The Russian fireball event has NO modern day precedent, none; this has never happened in living memory (excluding Tunguska which was a methane explosion) and certainly not on the same day as an asteroid passage and several other large fireballs. (The increase in fireballs is not new, but the attention given the subject in order to debunk it is new.)"

I like how short-sighted she is..."never happened in living memory...". Wow, that's only got to be around 100 years out of the planet's billions of years.

She knows it was a methane explosion? Was she there? Only one theorist came up with that one. General consensus was either a meteor or comet air burst.

Now if you want to see complete lunacy, go over to Cheryl's ning - they're all over the place with idiocy...

Funny...she's never figured out that I've been a registered member there for years without discovery...
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Perhaps she'd like to explain how 80 million trees over 830 sq/miles were leveled by a methane explosion. Such an explosion would occur at ground level and would not have that kind of widespread damage. In addition, there would be a crater caused by the explosion if what she claims were true. I'd like her to explain how she knows this was a methane explosion since 1) she wasn't there and 2) obviously can't think outside of the small box that Nancy has her mind enclosed in,
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The morons are going bonkers about the Russian meteor...

I especially liked one of Ann's posts:

"The lack of truth in the media about recent fireballs and another close asteroid passage is appalling: The Russian fireball event has NO modern day precedent, none; this has never happened in living memory (excluding Tunguska which was a methane explosion) and certainly not on the same day as an asteroid passage and several other large fireballs. (The increase in fireballs is not new, but the attention given the subject in order to debunk it is new.)"

I like how short-sighted she is..."never happened in living memory...". Wow, that's only got to be around 100 years out of the planet's billions of years.

She knows it was a methane explosion? Was she there? Only one theorist came up with that one. General consensus was either a meteor or comet air burst.

Now if you want to see complete lunacy, go over to Cheryl's ning - they're all over the place with idiocy...

Funny...she's never figured out that I've been a registered member there for years without discovery...
 Quoting: bob_909


Perhaps she'd like to explain how 80 million trees over 830 sq/miles were leveled by a methane explosion. Such an explosion would occur at ground level and would not have that kind of widespread damage. In addition, there would be a crater caused by the explosion if what she claims were true. I'd like her to explain how she knows this was a methane explosion since 1) she wasn't there and 2) obviously can't think outside of the small box that Nancy has her mind enclosed in,
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Well, given that Nancy's list of self proclaimed prediction "hits" includes the Tunguska event, I am supposing that she has the inside poop (and must be MUCH older than she is telling us). LOL. I could never figure out how a prediction made in the 90's about an event that happened many decades ago would qualify as a hit, but according to Nancy, she also successfully predicted JFK assassination and the Philadelphia Experiment. Bottom line, she is full of shit and it's beyond me that anyone could still believe anything she says.
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Well, given that Nancy's list of self proclaimed prediction "hits" includes the Tunguska event, I am supposing that she has the inside poop (and must be MUCH older than she is telling us). LOL. I could never figure out how a prediction made in the 90's about an event that happened many decades ago would qualify as a hit, but according to Nancy, she also successfully predicted JFK assassination and the Philadelphia Experiment. Bottom line, she is full of shit and it's beyond me that anyone could still believe anything she says.
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Nancy relies on post-dictions. It doesn't really require any proof. Since we all know those events happened, there's no disputing it. But, unlike her brain dead followers, "debunkers" don't believe her simply because she said something.

Meanwhile, Indonesia is STILL above water, Obama hasn't made any announcements concerning "Planet X", there's still no sign of it (except in improperly filtered photos of the sun), GPS and satellite TV services continue to function as they should, and life pretty much continues as it has been. I really can't wait until Fall when Comet ISON starts to light up the sky. That should get Nancy's followers in a tizzy. They're sure to run in circles waving their hands in the air yelling, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" The posts on the ning are sure to be pure comedy gold.
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Debunking Chemtrail Debunkers -
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Wow. That is a most amazing collection of delusional thinking and pseudo-science nonsense.
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Debunking Chemtrail Debunkers -
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Just curious... do you actually believe what that page says? If so, why? It is replete with blatant misrepresentation of facts.
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Wow. That is a most amazing collection of delusional thinking and pseudo-science nonsense.
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I've got to dig up that NACA report done during World War II concerning contrails or, as they called them back then, condensation trails.
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Nancy`s latest 7 of 10 report shows some clear signs of dementia. She is still hoaxing her cult victims with the lame Obama story. Whenever there are not enough floods, earthquakes or other scary things to impress her last few weird followers Nancy pulls out the Obama announcement.
We know that it is a hoax and she knows that it is a hoax. But like always it is enough to make fools out of her cult-victims. They believe everything what crazy Nancy tells them. There will never be such an announcement. The only funny thing are Nancy`s never ending excuses for her cult people. I wonder how much more bullshit they will take and swallow. Unlike normal people they happily believe in every excuse of Mrs. Liar. They even invent their own new excuses to keep them entertained.

It is the same with the never ending sinking of Indonesia which never has sunk. When there is the rain season they all behave like crazy and can`t stop cheering. A few weeks later you will hear nothing about it anymore. The topic is then a nogo as it clearly proves that Nancy is deadly wrong. The cult people live in their own world and their own sect. They don’t see reality like it is, they only accept Nancy Liar`s excuses. It often looks like they do not only see their planets through old floppy-disks, no they also see this world through old floppy-disks and live happily in their second sect life.


If the members of Nancy`s sect were not so retarded and ignorant they could watch some webcams of Indonesia every day. Of course they will refuse to go there. This might be a shock for their sect thinking.

Just check this out (two years after the alleged beginning of the 7 of 10 which should now already be a 15 out of ten):
[link to lewatmana.com]
Bad news for the sect followers! Reality is not their best friend.

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Satellites "mis-perform". Hilarious! If Earth was wobbling in the way Nancy claims it is, there would be no satellites left in the sky performing AT ALL! Heh...

Establishment Attempting to Prepare the Public in Anticipation of Predicted Satellite Failure. Zetas Right Again.

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