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Satellites "mis-perform". Hilarious! If Earth was wobbling in the way Nancy claims it is, there would be no satellites left in the sky performing AT ALL! Heh...

Establishment Attempting to Prepare the Public in Anticipation of Predicted Satellite Failure. Zetas Right Again.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Menow 34950775


Satellites fail all on a somewhat regular basis and not all launches are successful - never have been. Naturally, you can't convince any of them that. Like I've said before - time is going to be the bitch that slaps them upside the head because eventually, as the months and years go by, the reality that "Planet X" doesn't exist and was never there is going to rear its ugly head.
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Satellites "mis-perform". Hilarious! If Earth was wobbling in the way Nancy claims it is, there would be no satellites left in the sky performing AT ALL! Heh...

Establishment Attempting to Prepare the Public in Anticipation of Predicted Satellite Failure. Zetas Right Again.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Menow 34950775


Her examples of failing satellites are pretty pathetic:

1. The image she has is of Glory which failed because the shroud failed to jettison properly after launch (this was the second time the shroud on a Taurus rocket failed to separate).
2. Envisat was launched in 2002 and failed in 2012 - it operated successfully for five years past it's planned mission lifetime.
3. ROSAT was launched in 1990 and was designed for only 18 months of operation with a possibility of five years. However, it operated for eight years - 6 1/2 years longer than designed.
4. The Meridian satellite failed because it never got into orbit - the launch vehicle's third stage failed.

Amazing...four examples she provides and not one of them supports her claims.

Now where is she getting the idea that satellites use magnets for orientation? Has she never heard of momentum and reaction wheels? Never heard of spin stablization?

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The following link should be to her intelligence level:

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Satellites "mis-perform". Hilarious! If Earth was wobbling in the way Nancy claims it is, there would be no satellites left in the sky performing AT ALL! Heh...

Establishment Attempting to Prepare the Public in Anticipation of Predicted Satellite Failure. Zetas Right Again.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Menow 34950775


Satellites fail all on a somewhat regular basis and not all launches are successful - never have been. Naturally, you can't convince any of them that. Like I've said before - time is going to be the bitch that slaps them upside the head because eventually, as the months and years go by, the reality that "Planet X" doesn't exist and was never there is going to rear its ugly head.
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Doing pretty good here on the Space Coast...every launch in the last two years has been successful. They're shooting for 13 launches this year from the Cape.
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Back from an exhausting (travelling almost 5000 km in Thailand and Cambodia) but nice holiday - without laptop, smartphone, email, SMS, ... (occasionally some news from outdated papers or a TV in a bar or restaurant).

With an air temperature of 35°C and 85% humidity the sea with 30°C isn't really refreshing.

As I always say: Going on holiday is a hard job - but someone must do it.

Of course no signs of Planet X, a second sun or a complete solar system.
As for the sinking of Thailand and Cambodia: The two countries must have popped out of the sea just before I arrived.

angkorsun2
Sunrise at Angkor Wat

Did some reading yesterday, so I'm almost up to date with other solar systems entering ours, Zetas wrong again aso.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Welcome back Hydra. It`s always the same with Nancy and her comedy cult. When some tourists enter the flooded areas a miracle happens and there is no more flooding. But the comedy cult people ignore this reality.

They are just waiting for the next flooding somewhere in these countries and claim that the country sank. Pure comedy gold. The Ning-tards are so damn stupid that it is incredible.

Even Nancy`s last comment on Alberto`s latest lenseflare comedy shows how far away they live from reality. Alberto produces lenseflares which have around 20-40 times the size of the sun. And Nancy thinks something big is heading our way.

Of course nobody except Flareberto can see such magic clouds.
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Doing pretty good here on the Space Coast...every launch in the last two years has been successful. They're shooting for 13 launches this year from the Cape.
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Yes, most launches are successful but my point is that not all of them are. Your explanation behind the failed satellites she mentioned definitely proves her wrong. But, naturally, if you were to post the honest truth on the ning it would be quickly deleted and you would be banned. So we'll just have to let them think the world is coming to an end because of some "rogue planet." They'll simply be waiting a really long time for that to happen. Life on this planet will end for a multitude of other reasons LONG before any "Planet X" shows up.
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You are right, CB. This planet has some real problems and some severe conflicts, but the fantasy planet Nobiru is definitely no problem for earth. It never showed up.

So Nancy and the cult people abused their fantasy to create a fictive planet. The whole ning and all the tards are playing their own science-fiction story.
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IF PX were so nigh, why do nancy and her pet aliens keep yakking about politics? What difference does it make when the end is so obviously nigh?

Thread: Zetatalk: How Gen. Allen got spanked and burned, he's top of the line in the "cover-up" crowd!

It's amazing how little sense she makes. Obama couldn't reveal PX because they 'cut the wires?'
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Nancy's cover up story is so full of holes it really amazes me anyone believes it at all. I mean - let's pretend "Planet X" is real and is headed our way after doing the tango with the sun for the past 10 years. Let's also pretend that I'm a "paid debunker", astronomer/scientist, or politician. Now - why would a threat of death keep me quiet about "Planet X" when my chances of surviving the "pole shift" in the first place would be EXTREMELY UNLIKELY? Why would I, or anyone else that knew about it for that matter, keep our mouths shut when we were very likely going to die anyway? And to be honest - I'd probably rather die by being taken out with a sniper's bullet or by some other "mysterious" and questionable death than suffer a painful and/or horrific death during the "pole shift."

Another big hole in her story is there's no way in the world that ANY military force would be able to control the entire population through Martial Law and the use of deadly force. If people knew some "rogue planet" was coming to destroy life on Earth, they aren't going to listen to the government/military. I know if I knew I was going to die during the "pole shift", why would the use of deadly force scare me? Again - I'd rather die quickly than suffer in the "pole shift" or during the "after time." In addition, military troops simply wouldn't be able to keep control of the huge masses of people. They might be able to kill a lot of people but they'd be quickly overrun and over powered.

I guess the reason her followers believe what she says is because they lack the ability to THINK. Choosing instead to take the easy way and simply believe everything she tells them. I bet Nancy could tell them that "The Walking Dead" is the media's attempt to tell the people about the coming apocalypse and showed what life would be like after the "pole shift" and every last one of them would believe it...not realizing that they're the walking dead. Walking brain dead that is.
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Now where is she getting the idea that satellites use magnets for orientation? Has she never heard of momentum and reaction wheels? Never heard of spin stablization?

[link to www.rockwellcollins.com]

The following link should be to her intelligence level:

[link to transition.fcc.gov]
 Quoting: bob_909


The same crossed my mind yesterday when I read her clumsy descriptions about the functioning of modern sattelites.


"magnetic confusion increases, these satellites will begin to mis-perform. Satellites use magnets for alignment of their internal mechanisms, and if pointing in wrong directions, communications are halted. "

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Too bad for her that the sattelites still work fine.

Nancy's cover up story is so full of holes it really amazes me anyone believes it at all. I mean - let's pretend "Planet X" is real and is headed our way after doing the tango with the sun for the past 10 years. Let's also pretend that I'm a "paid debunker", astronomer/scientist, or politician. Now - why would a threat of death keep me quiet about "Planet X" when my chances of surviving the "pole shift" in the first place would be EXTREMELY UNLIKELY? Why would I, or anyone else that knew about it for that matter, keep our mouths shut when we were very likely going to die anyway? And to be honest - I'd probably rather die by being taken out with a sniper's bullet or by some other "mysterious" and questionable death than suffer a painful and/or horrific death during the "pole shift."

Another big hole in her story is there's no way in the world that ANY military force would be able to control the entire population through Martial Law and the use of deadly force. If people knew some "rogue planet" was coming to destroy life on Earth, they aren't going to listen to the government/military. I know if I knew I was going to die during the "pole shift", why would the use of deadly force scare me? Again - I'd rather die quickly than suffer in the "pole shift" or during the "after time." In addition, military troops simply wouldn't be able to keep control of the huge masses of people. They might be able to kill a lot of people but they'd be quickly overrun and over powered.

I guess the reason her followers believe what she says is because they lack the ability to THINK. Choosing instead to take the easy way and simply believe everything she tells them. I bet Nancy could tell them that "The Walking Dead" is the media's attempt to tell the people about the coming apocalypse and showed what life would be like after the "pole shift" and every last one of them would believe it...not realizing that they're the walking dead. Walking brain dead that is.
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ohyeah
And whenever they get doubts they will tell each other it must be due to something else, something wrong as in the world of ZetaTard there is no other than fully accepting every little bit of it. (Except when Nancy needs it for her advantage like the "2012 is too far out" thing)...

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"Again, as predicted by the unsurpassed and unerring ZetaTalk."


How is someone ever supposed to come to a consistent view when you initially assume what someone says is never wrong.

It just doesn't make sense...



Back from an exhausting (travelling almost 5000 km in Thailand and Cambodia) but nice holiday - without laptop, smartphone, email, SMS, ... (occasionally some news from outdated papers or a TV in a bar or restaurant).

With an air temperature of 35°C and 85% humidity the sea with 30°C isn't really refreshing.

As I always say: Going on holiday is a hard job - but someone must do it.


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chuckle
Welcome back!
You didnt missed much over here... Just the regular "zetas right"-fails. Nancy claimed the Russian meteor was shot down, they seem to have found the "Dark Twin" as a little dot on Magnetosphere-plots and of course they're still waiting for Obama to read about Nancy's theories.
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Clearly photoshopped; there's no second sun!!!

Glad you enjoyed your exhausting, grueling vacation. It's good to have you back again!
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Clearly photoshopped; there's no second sun!!!
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Well, duh! We are "debunkers" after all - hiding the truth since at least 2003.
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Astro, R420, others, I want to thank you for the last few pages on this thread...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 413)

My sides hurt from laughing too much. Classic and priceless.

Thanks very much.
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Astro, R420, others, I want to thank you for the last few pages on this thread...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 413)

My sides hurt from laughing too much. Classic and priceless.

Thanks very much.
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Glad I could help!
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Back from an exhausting (travelling almost 5000 km in Thailand and Cambodia) but nice holiday - without laptop, smartphone, email, SMS, ... (occasionally some news from outdated papers or a TV in a bar or restaurant).

With an air temperature of 35°C and 85% humidity the sea with 30°C isn't really refreshing.

As I always say: Going on holiday is a hard job - but someone must do it.

Of course no signs of Planet X, a second sun or a complete solar system.
As for the sinking of Thailand and Cambodia: The two countries must have popped out of the sea just before I arrived.

angkorsun2
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Did some reading yesterday, so I'm almost up to date with other solar systems entering ours, Zetas wrong again aso.


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FlareBerto has been quiet lately.
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Astro, R420, others, I want to thank you for the last few pages on this thread...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 413)

My sides hurt from laughing too much. Classic and priceless.

Thanks very much.
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Wow - he's as delusional as Nancy. I love it when woo-woos claim they've proven something when they haven't answered any questions or provided any supporting evidence. He reminds me a lot of Grant.

You can tell he's losing the debate when he starts calling people paid shills. It's the only thing they have.

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Astro, R420, others, I want to thank you for the last few pages on this thread...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 413)

My sides hurt from laughing too much. Classic and priceless.

Thanks very much.
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Wow - he's as delusional as Nancy. I love it when woo-woos claim they've proven something when they haven't answered any questions or provided any supporting evidence. He reminds me a lot of Grant.

You can tell he's losing the debate when he starts calling people paid shills. It's the only thing they have.
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It's true. In the end, they ALWAYS resort to calling people "shills" and citing a vast conspiracy which somehow keeps them from proving their premise.
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It's really hard to understand the mind that flees from rational debate. There are some very smart people that come to this site, people that know their shit and are willing to share and provide methods for the skeptical to test their claims and either prove or disprove, thus learning something. Instead the chicken little crowd listens to the likes of IDW and a dotty old cat lady that thinks RA means right angle. At the first sign that someone who actually knows something for real, they start yelling "shill" and cover their ears and sing the la la song at full volume. It's one thing to be ignorant but willing to learn, but deliberate stubborn ignorance is a waste of a human life. Sad and pathetic, really.
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Now Solar Guardian makes an appearance, claiming Astromut won't be posting by the end of March.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 418)

Wonder what he'd be willing to wager...

Anyway, I updated the List now that its clear that IDW doesn't understand how eclipses work *at all...*

It's been an illuminating thread!
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Now Solar Guardian makes an appearance, claiming Astromut won't be posting by the end of March.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 418)

Wonder what he'd be willing to wager...

Anyway, I updated the List now that its clear that IDW doesn't understand how eclipses work *at all...*

It's been an illuminating thread!
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That's why "they" are called the "illuminati". LOL
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Astro, R420, others, I want to thank you for the last few pages on this thread...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 413)

My sides hurt from laughing too much. Classic and priceless.

Thanks very much.
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Wow - he's as delusional as Nancy. I love it when woo-woos claim they've proven something when they haven't answered any questions or provided any supporting evidence. He reminds me a lot of Grant.

You can tell he's losing the debate when he starts calling people paid shills. It's the only thing they have.
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He's melting down... again. This is just too easy and way too entertaining.
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Astro, R420, others, I want to thank you for the last few pages on this thread...

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 413)

My sides hurt from laughing too much. Classic and priceless.

Thanks very much.
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Wow - he's as delusional as Nancy. I love it when woo-woos claim they've proven something when they haven't answered any questions or provided any supporting evidence. He reminds me a lot of Grant.

You can tell he's losing the debate when he starts calling people paid shills. It's the only thing they have.
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He's melting down... again. This is just too easy and way too entertaining.
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Heh. Popped in a quick retort over there since he's telling two mutually exclusive tales....and doesn't understand WHY they're mutually exclusive.

Most enjoyable.
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Another poor soul who could use your help Thread: Is it normal for the markings on the moon to change?
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I never thought IDW/A.A would literally slide below Nancy Lieder's apparent understanding of the heavens. I am semi-convinced he's going to claim the Earth is halted in its orbit any moment now.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 420)

My opinion of the man's knowledge has taken quite a tumble. Why would he even *think* to call himself an Astrophysicist? His failure to grasp even the most basic astronomical concepts boggles the mind.
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Anyone care to guess how long it takes for Nancy and the ningtards to latch onto the Indian Ocean article concerning sand?
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Anyone care to guess how long it takes for Nancy and the ningtards to latch onto the Indian Ocean article concerning sand?
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I am unfamiliar with the article -- what's happening in the Indian Ocean?
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Anyone care to guess how long it takes for Nancy and the ningtards to latch onto the Indian Ocean article concerning sand?
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I am unfamiliar with the article -- what's happening in the Indian Ocean?
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[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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Anyone care to guess how long it takes for Nancy and the ningtards to latch onto the Indian Ocean article concerning sand?
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I am unfamiliar with the article -- what's happening in the Indian Ocean?
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[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
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Neat article! But, yes, I would guess about three weeks -- maybe a bit less since they monitor this thread...
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So, at this particular point, in figuring out exactly what IDW/A.A is claiming on his thread I remain hopelessly mixed up.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 425)

Circular Reasoning -- see Reasoning, Circular

He is claiming that un-updated GOTOs can't track the Moon, because it is moving unpredictably.

But he is also claiming that the Moon is moving unpredictably, except the Mayans predicted it.

Then he has claimed that the Mayans predicted it, but only with eclipses.

He then adds eclipses are occurring as predicted, but only if the predictions are *recent.*

But then he also claims that old books' predictions of lunar and solar eclipses should be off, since the eclipses and lunar motions have recently become unpredictable.

Which brings us back to claiming that un-updated GOTOs can't track the Moon, because it is moving unpredictably.

Am I missing any steps?

Reasoning, circular -- see Circular Reasoning.

Instead of Schrodinger's Cat, we seem to have IDW's eclipse. It is both predictable and unpredictable!
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Another poor soul who could use your help Thread: Is it normal for the markings on the moon to change?
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LMAO!!!


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