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I´ve just seen the latest lenseflare attack of Flareberto aka Alberto Cardin. Is it possible that one man is so stupid?

The evolution of intelligence has never reached the ning and its tards.

It looks like both Flareberto and Nancy got insane together.
Ok Nancy Liar was insane before she made Flarberto mad.
[link to www.youtube.com]

These cult people are so retarded. What happened with this poor people? They got totally locked up in their crazy cult.

Why does nobody there tell Flareberto to use a normal cam, without some old floppy-disks? Ok, this person would get immediately banned and censored. This weird guy still always thinks he is one the greatest astronomers, while all the others laugh their asses off.

Welcome on the cultshift.ning.com! You are only one headshot away!
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Sorry, the wrong link guys. I got it from a friend.

Here you see Flareberto`s latest astronomy adventures.
Welcome in the stone age!
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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under the Sun and a bit to the left as it curls around in a retrograde twirl between the Earth and the Sun.
endquote

could someone please explain "retrograde twirl" - slowing ballerina perhaps ?

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I really like the first comment there claiming his video shows a BIG development. Excuse me....BIG development? Is it anything like that BIG announcement they're waiting for to come from Obama?
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I really like the first comment there claiming his video shows a BIG development. Excuse me....BIG development? Is it anything like that BIG announcement they're waiting for to come from Obama?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

You must admit, that Flarebertos earlier lens flares are much smaller.
So it's a BIG development in the lens flares.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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So big that it keeps the rest of us from seeing it...unless we use old floppy disks.
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under the Sun and a bit to the left as it curls around in a retrograde twirl between the Earth and the Sun.
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could someone please explain "retrograde twirl" - slowing ballerina perhaps ?

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That is like if you try to reduce brain volume further and further. If you happen to reach zero, and still further reduce the volume, then you have a retrograde brain volume.

With the disadvantage that, if you happen to get some brain from someone (as a gift), your brain gets smaller.
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HOLY MAKEREL!!
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

As I explained Nancy usally edits the titles of Albertos postings to something spectacular like "Date, Az, PX swirling, funneling here and there xy.."
but this post is different!
Nancy didn touched the title this time instead she came up with "New ZT" because she obviously sensed that Alberto accumulated a lot of doubts and his recent posts already indicated that!

Look at the Title: Sun 2/27 Hard to Understand (NEW ZetaTalk)
Im sure the "Sun 2/27 Hard to Understand" was written by Alberto himself including the gif animation!
Alberto might have been subject to the same deception as others but he's obviously not as blind to ignore that such a Monsterflare is only visible on his cam.

The gif-animation proves the images were taken minutes apart from each other and the "monsterflare" clearly moves.

Hard to Understand indeed if you believe thats supposed to be a physical planet hiding next to the sun.

BOY, it is possible that Alberto will have a meltdown and the new ZT proves that Nancy is desperate! It surely won't bet her last attempt though..

Goberto! Crash the illusion!
popcorn
(btw I made a backup of it :)
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under the Sun and a bit to the left as it curls around in a retrograde twirl between the Earth and the Sun.
endquote

could someone please explain "retrograde twirl" - slowing ballerina perhaps ?

PR
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laugh laugh laugh laugh

her "ZT" is such an improvised joke!

It has all the common features:
- some kind of mysterious element (" massive dustcloud" not visible or measurable, except for Alberto)
- some flashy metaphor: "massive dust cloud", "retrograde twirl", "brilliant blaze", "proper angles"
- "proper angles" , the usual explanation why nobody else can see these.. (except if using enough floppies or other flare-producing stuff)
- and finally the element of ever waiting, "the common man is likely to be seeing TWO suns throughout the day, instead of only at dawn or dusk."

She didn't even said it definetly! Just "likely"


yak
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Alberto's animated photos are showing the massive dust cloud of Planet X in its usual location, under the Sun and a bit to the left as it curls around in a retrograde twirl between the Earth and the Sun. Why the brilliant blaze of light? Sunlight is reflecting, at the proper angles for a blaze of light in the reflection, at high NOON here instead of only at dawn or dusk. What does this mean for increased visibility, the tail being pushed into such positions? It means the common man is likely to be seeing TWO suns throughout the day, instead of only at dawn or dusk.

EOZT

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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I can think of two options for Nancy,

- try to convince Alberto that everything he sees on his camera is really there, which might be a two-sided sword as Alberto seems to be on alert already probably also due to the excessive editing of his titles.

- invent some story and get rid of him and twist the story in some way like someone has taken over his account or some other BS to let her look as the victim as usual.



Due to the experience with her I'd think she'd use the latter in the end, but this doesn't mean Nancy will not stop to prey on him.
Her ZT is another indication she had to step up to the "higher instance" again to get Alberto straight.

Will it work? Alerted humans can be unpredictable.. even for alleged aliens
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And on a last note,

Howard again who misinterprates Magnetosphere-charts..
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

So according to him the Sun was "silent", seemingly because images or data was missing?
I dont know.

I went to see the Solar Wind prediction for 02/25 and there seemed to be some action so the whole thing is not really suprising. [link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

But how can you make educated guesses when you're not even allowed to consider the main factor, the sun!

It just doesnt make sense.
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HOLY MAKEREL!!
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

As I explained Nancy usally edits the titles of Albertos postings to something spectacular like "Date, Az, PX swirling, funneling here and there xy.."
but this post is different!
Nancy didn touched the title this time instead she came up with "New ZT" because she obviously sensed that Alberto accumulated a lot of doubts and his recent posts already indicated that!

Look at the Title: Sun 2/27 Hard to Understand (NEW ZetaTalk)
Im sure the "Sun 2/27 Hard to Understand" was written by Alberto himself including the gif animation!
Alberto might have been subject to the same deception as others but he's obviously not as blind to ignore that such a Monsterflare is only visible on his cam.

The gif-animation proves the images were taken minutes apart from each other and the "monsterflare" clearly moves.

Hard to Understand indeed if you believe thats supposed to be a physical planet hiding next to the sun.

BOY, it is possible that Alberto will have a meltdown and the new ZT proves that Nancy is desperate! It surely won't bet her last attempt though..

Goberto! Crash the illusion!
popcorn
(btw I made a backup of it :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35341009


countdown to alberto being either `hacked' or he is being `attacked and mind taken over'(or whatever her lame excuse was when the last mod left the ning and spilled the beans)
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Flareberto will probably soon ride into the sunset on a big lensflare, surrounded by moon swirls and motherships of the Council of Worlds. He really deserves it... lol ...

alien11starwars

The Zetas will beam him up so that he can share his superior floppy disk technology with them ...
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The (new) Scramble for Africa explained

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Summary:
... in recent years we see Africa being eyed up by several governments, trying to establish a foothold so they can escape the impact of the poleshift in their own countries.

Hmmm ...
If I read through the 7 of 10 ZetaBabble ...


23.09.2012
Central & West Africa: Niger, Nigeria, Cameroon, Senegal experience the worst flooding! 284 dead by floods!

16.08.2012
Nigeria: Floods again hit Plateau! 38 dead, scores still missing in worst floods in 50 years!

25.07.2012
Nigeria: 47 dead, about 36 missing, 3000 displaced by floods in Jos!

14.05.2012
Kenya lose elevation: One Killed, Several Missing in Mathare Floods! Uganda: A big crack cause risk collapse bridge!

01.05.2012
Kenya: Floods kill more people, destroy property!

23.04.2012
Kenya: Flash floods kill seven in Kenyan park

and so on:
[link to www.google.de]

... I must ask, who wants to go there.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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countdown to alberto being either `hacked' or he is being `attacked and mind taken over'(or whatever her lame excuse was when the last mod left the ning and spilled the beans)
 Quoting: aussie 763624 35362829


banned2 Yup except if he will believe the "don't worry, you are one of the good guys and its all based on "solid" evidence relayed by aliens to their "unique emissary" Nancy".

But there's a good chance Alberto will eventually question his dope lenseflares... especially since he is behind the camera and sees what is really going on. It just needs a twich to get him rethinking...

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HOLY MAKEREL!!
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

As I explained Nancy usally edits the titles of Albertos postings to something spectacular like "Date, Az, PX swirling, funneling here and there xy.."
but this post is different!
Nancy didn touched the title this time instead she came up with "New ZT" because she obviously sensed that Alberto accumulated a lot of doubts and his recent posts already indicated that!

Look at the Title: Sun 2/27 Hard to Understand (NEW ZetaTalk)
Im sure the "Sun 2/27 Hard to Understand" was written by Alberto himself including the gif animation!
Alberto might have been subject to the same deception as others but he's obviously not as blind to ignore that such a Monsterflare is only visible on his cam.

The gif-animation proves the images were taken minutes apart from each other and the "monsterflare" clearly moves.

Hard to Understand indeed if you believe thats supposed to be a physical planet hiding next to the sun.

BOY, it is possible that Alberto will have a meltdown and the new ZT proves that Nancy is desperate! It surely won't bet her last attempt though..

Goberto! Crash the illusion!
popcorn
(btw I made a backup of it :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35341009


Of course, Nancy and the rest don't understand field rotation and how that means that if an "object" is seen in the same relative position to the sun, morning- noon and night, it's NOT A REAL OBJECT IN THE SKY! Sheesh!
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Well, crazy Nancy Lieder always tries some dirty tricks and pranks with her last few followers. There are not too many left. The real problem is that they believe every bull she is telling them.

Of course she has no clue about astronomy or other things, but she is telling them this bull like the old coffee aunt next door with some aliens in her head (some very stupid aliens who seem to live in the Stone Age). This is very strange and dumb. But it is even more incredible that these fools believe it. It even got a religion for them. Flareberto for example will happily dance on his lenseflares, no matter how big they get. His brain got stored on an old floppy and in the words of crazy Nancy. Brainwashing at its best.

But dirty Nancy uses these tricks to abuse her last few sect victims. Controlling her sect victims is her last duty on earth. She has nothing better to do. Welcome to crazy Nancy`s nasty mind fucking cult!

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I see "Anonymous Astrophysicist" appears to have abandoned his thread after getting his ass handed to him numerous times.
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I see "Anonymous Astrophysicist" appears to have abandoned his thread after getting his ass handed to him numerous times.
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It looks like the lenseflares of Flareberto are getting bigger and bigger.

[link to api.ning.com]

Now they seem to have three times the size of the sun and more. A tender-hearted person should give Flareberto the advice to clean his old floppy-diks and his illusions will probably disappear. But for the ningtards this is the big deal. These people are so stupid and illiterate.
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So, at this particular point, in figuring out exactly what IDW/A.A is claiming on his thread I remain hopelessly mixed up.

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 425)

Circular Reasoning -- see Reasoning, Circular

He is claiming that un-updated GOTOs can't track the Moon, because it is moving unpredictably.

But he is also claiming that the Moon is moving unpredictably, except the Mayans predicted it.

Then he has claimed that the Mayans predicted it, but only with eclipses.

He then adds eclipses are occurring as predicted, but only if the predictions are *recent.*

But then he also claims that old books' predictions of lunar and solar eclipses should be off, since the eclipses and lunar motions have recently become unpredictable.

Which brings us back to claiming that un-updated GOTOs can't track the Moon, because it is moving unpredictably.

Am I missing any steps?

Reasoning, circular -- see Circular Reasoning.

Instead of Schrodinger's Cat, we seem to have IDW's eclipse. It is both predictable and unpredictable!
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My GOTO scope tracks the moon beautifully. I used it last night and inspired many friends. IDW is just a moron. I told him this and he said I had no proof of not updating my GOTO mount. Like what the hell? lol
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Of course she has no clue about astronomy or other things,
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Considering that people have been trying to educate her for over a decade, that can only be wilful.
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And once more Poleshit-Nancy makes a fool of herself:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 4 minutes ago
Look what showed up on SOHO! Something huge, like the dust cloud, wafting from left to right in front of the Sun!
VIDEO: [link to www.youtube.com]


[link to poleshift.ning.com] (Comment section at the end of page)


Sometimes a little reading would be of advantage:
[link to www.spaceweather.com] March 2, 2013


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Edit: added link to the poleshit.ning

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Last Edited by Hydra on 03/03/2013 11:53 AM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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And once more Poleshit-Nancy makes a fool of herself:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 4 minutes ago
Look what showed up on SOHO! Something huge, like the dust cloud, wafting from left to right in front of the Sun!
VIDEO: [link to www.youtube.com]


[link to poleshift.ning.com] (Comment section at the end of page)


Sometimes a little reading would be of advantage:
[link to www.spaceweather.com] March 2, 2013


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Edit: added link to the poleshit.ning

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Oh man. What a Bufoon she is
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And once more Poleshit-Nancy makes a fool of herself:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 4 minutes ago
Look what showed up on SOHO! Something huge, like the dust cloud, wafting from left to right in front of the Sun!
VIDEO: [link to www.youtube.com]


[link to poleshift.ning.com] (Comment section at the end of page)


Sometimes a little reading would be of advantage:
[link to www.spaceweather.com] March 2, 2013


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It's getting even better:

Comment by Howard 3 hours ago
The anomaly is still visible on helioviewer between 07:10 and 07:24 UTC, March 3, 2013.
[link to delphi.nascom.nasa.gov]


And:

Comment by Katche 20 minutes ago
[link to www.youtube.com]
Just in case it gets removed, redone on a safe account.


Btw - his account name at YouTube: Debunkers WorstNightmare

catwow


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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And once more Poleshit-Nancy makes a fool of herself:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 4 minutes ago
Look what showed up on SOHO! Something huge, like the dust cloud, wafting from left to right in front of the Sun!
VIDEO: [link to www.youtube.com]


[link to poleshift.ning.com] (Comment section at the end of page)
 Quoting: Hydra


Made a thread of it:
Thread: Desperate attempt to keep the crazy Poleshit-Cult running? - Nancy LIEder: The dust cloud of Planet X eclipses the Sun

Feel free to comment :)

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Btw - his account name at YouTube: Debunkers WorstNightmare

:catwow:


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Notice as usual comments n that video are disabled- can't have anyone telling the viewer what is REALLY happening now can we...

Actually I thought he chose a really apt name- altho not in the way he imagines, he really is a `debunkersworstnightmare' - uneducated and unwilling to do even the slightest bit of the minimal work to find out how things actually work, instead relying on the failed prophetess and failed cult leader nancy LIEder....

Indeed a debunkersworstnightmare
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It's getting even better:

Comment by Howard 3 hours ago
The anomaly is still visible on helioviewer between 07:10 and 07:24 UTC, March 3, 2013.
[link to delphi.nascom.nasa.gov]


And:

Comment by Katche 20 minutes ago
[link to www.youtube.com]
Just in case it gets removed, redone on a safe account.




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Astrobob has an article on this from last year:

[link to astrobob.areavoices.com]

I'm surprised it took the ningtards this long to latch onto something this mundane and make a big conspiracy deal about it.

They're a gullible bunch of shits over there.

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LOL...Nancy again made a fool out of herself and her stupid followers. They even saw a sign of the Council of Worlds in this artificial solar eclipse.

Nancy`s lame excuse after being debunked on numerous pages is again pure comedy gold. She claims that she "should have asked the Zetas"...

But why? The result would have been the same.ahhhsiren2

The next exit for Nancy and her culttards is the mental asylum.
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Interesting! Seems like Albertos doubts continue and it looks that post is exactly where Nancy jumped in with the "Sun blocker story" seemingly to distract Alberto (and the belivers) with something else than the lenseflares!

And once more Poleshit-Nancy makes a fool of herself:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 4 minutes ago
Look what showed up on SOHO! Something huge, like the dust cloud, wafting from left to right in front of the Sun!
VIDEO: [link to www.youtube.com]


[link to poleshift.ning.com] (Comment section at the end of page)


Sometimes a little reading would be of advantage:
[link to www.spaceweather.com] March 2, 2013

Edit: added link to the poleshit.ning
 Quoting: Hydra


Oh man. What a Bufoon she is
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


1doh1 So typical for Nancy to jump on speculative YT-vids and twist them.

I always wonder whats going on in her head in such moments:

X: "WOW! Take a look at this sattelite picture, is this PX?!"

Nancy (thinking): opening YT-link, Check Title - Sun was eclipsed by Huge Unidentified Object - , check Description (sounds "solid"), check Video - Seeing Sun getting blocked a little.

Thinking, thinking (a nanosecond)
Holy cow! This is perfect, I could need this right now before the people realize the whole floppy-BS!
This is PX's tail, swirling, funneling, twirling, blocking the sun and Zetas right again!!!

(total time invested: 1:13min)
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