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Interesting! Seems like Albertos doubts continue and it looks that post is exactly where Nancy jumped in with the "Sun blocker story" seemingly to distract Alberto (and the belivers) with something else than the lenseflares!

And once more Poleshit-Nancy makes a fool of herself:

Comment by Nancy Lieder 4 minutes ago
Look what showed up on SOHO! Something huge, like the dust cloud, wafting from left to right in front of the Sun!
VIDEO: [link to www.youtube.com]


[link to poleshift.ning.com] (Comment section at the end of page)


Sometimes a little reading would be of advantage:
[link to www.spaceweather.com] March 2, 2013

Edit: added link to the poleshit.ning
 Quoting: Hydra


Oh man. What a Bufoon she is
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


1doh1 So typical for Nancy to jump on speculative YT-vids and twist them.

I always wonder whats going on in her head in such moments:

X: "WOW! Take a look at this sattelite picture, is this PX?!"

Nancy (thinking): opening YT-link, Check Title - Sun was eclipsed by Huge Unidentified Object - , check Description (sounds "solid"), check Video - Seeing Sun getting blocked a little.

Thinking, thinking (a nanosecond)
Holy cow! This is perfect, I could need this right now before the people realize the whole floppy-BS!
This is PX's tail, swirling, funneling, twirling, blocking the sun and Zetas right again!!!

(total time invested: 1:13min)
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Lol. Nancy took one of my photos from the solar eclipse last year and claimed the lens flare I had by putting up my phone to the lens was Nibiru. Like are you kidding me? Freakin FlareBerto had a hard on in the picture.

[link to m.flickr.com]
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The "list of banned words" is eating my post - so I have to find out which one it is by editing the post several times.
Strangely enough, when I edited the post and put in the phrases one by one, all was ok.

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Nancy's lame excuse after being debunked on numerous pages is again pure comedy gold. She claims that she "should have asked the Zetas"...
 Quoting: hater5551953

Yes, she "should have asked the Zetas".

Comment by Nancy Lieder
Oops! My bad. The SDO satellite goes slightly behind the Earth twice a year, around the
solstice, causing such a shadow. I should have asked the Zetas!!! (splat) the sound of Nancy falling on her face.

Perhaps the Zetas had known that it is around the equinoxes.

Poleshit-Nancy even can't read (or understand) what Poli had copied from Spaceweather.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]


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Last Edited by Hydra on 03/04/2013 02:58 PM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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The "list of banned words" is eating my post - so I have to find out which one it is by editing the post several times.
Strangely enough, when I edited the post and put in the phrases one by one, all was ok.

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Nancy's lame excuse after being debunked on numerous pages is again pure comedy gold. She claims that she "should have asked the Zetas"...
 Quoting: hater5551953

Yes, she "should have asked the Zetas".

Comment by Nancy Lieder
Oops! My bad. The SDO satellite goes slightly behind the Earth twice a year, around the
solstice, causing such a shadow. I should have asked the Zetas!!! (splat) the sound of Nancy falling on her face.

Perhaps the Zetas had known that it is around the equinoxes.

Poleshit-Nancy even can't read (or understand) what Poli had copied from Spaceweather.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]


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 Quoting: Hydra


laugh laugh
Lets you wonder how earth can stay halted in its orbit or wobbling when this happens exactly as predicted during the equinoxes.
[link to www.factfixx.com]

She just busted herself but her BS (and the believers mindset) is inconsistent anyway...
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Yes, sometimes the earth has a very long shadow: a way too long for Nancy and the Ningtards. First she thought that SDO showed/ is Nibiru, then she completely dropped the ball. I think there is hardly a planet left which wasn`t Nobiru in the eyes of the retarded followers. And if there is no planet in the right position they will create their funny lenseflares.

The problem with Nancy`s Zetas is that they always only understand as much as she does. And this is not very much. Besides that she more and more lost the overview over her own predictions. After admitting that the earth follows an orbit and causes an artificial solar eclipse on SDO she can forget her hoax story about earth halting in its orbit. Because this only indicates that everything happens as usual and as calculated by astronomers.

Solar eclipses are a real nightmare for disenchanted prophets and their weird followers. This is pure comedy at its best. Now crazy Nancy has to invent a new story and try to explain her brain-dead followers why the earth is back in its orbit. Hoaxtime on the poleshit.ning.com. Have some fun with Poleshit-Nancy.
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And the fun goes on (or catch at a straw):
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by Katche
A very sharp edged object appears on SDO in 2011 around the same time of the year (approx).
[link to www.youtube.com]

And when I tried to render a new movie about yesterdays eclipse for comparison reasons I found the sun beeing completely covered which I hadn't seen on any other video yet:
[link to www.youtube.com]


Another nice example, that the Poleshitters only find, what they want to find.

Dear Katche, how about this:


And how about this:
brainuseit

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Oops! My bad. The SDO satellite goes slightly behind the Earth twice a year, around the solstice, causing such a shadow. I should have asked the Zetas!!! [splat] the sound of Nancy falling on her face.

 Quoting: Comment by Nancy Lieder 19 hours ago


she must be quite used to the sound of that `splat' sound- she makes it every time she opens her mouth about...

well....


anything!!!!
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Oops! My bad. The SDO satellite goes slightly behind the Earth twice a year, around the solstice, causing such a shadow. I should have asked the Zetas!!! [splat] the sound of Nancy falling on her face.

 Quoting: Comment by Nancy Lieder 19 hours ago


she must be quite used to the sound of that `splat' sound- she makes it every time she opens her mouth about...

well....


anything!!!!
 Quoting: aussie 763624 35610330


It is obvious that Nancy is well aware that she was spewing BS once again (PX tail, dust cloud whatever) so the only remaining questions are wether she just used it as a quick hype to distract from the obvious-lenseflares-are-obvious and how quick she expected her BS to be debunked.

She follows GLP without a doubt and it appears her own members and the debunkers did her lazy homework once again and she might not expected to find egg on her claims so early.

If she used it as a quick hype to distract from Flarebertos flares it turns out to be a fail.

Her sheeple are now confronted with her incompetence and speculative nature once again which is a good thing.

Katche and others even went to do a little "research" as a result of her sloppy work,

And the fun goes on (or catch at a straw):
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by Katche
A very sharp edged object appears on SDO in 2011 around the same time of the year (approx).
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Hydra


Nice! More confirmation that earth is not halted right in front of her eyes. Yes Katche, its supposed to be like that.
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Nancy is latching onto anything now in hopes it will stop the dwindling numbers in followers.
People are waking up to her.
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Planet X in Germany:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

Nancy's Comment:
I think that's PX itself! 4-5 o'clock and at 2:00 pm the Ecliptic is straight across or even slightly tilted from uppper left to lower right. Dramatic. Excellent capture! Superb! The vertical line down through the Sun is a reaction of the camera to intense light. It is a common flare. There is also a little red dot that zings around as the camera moves, also a flare. The golden globes are NOT flares.


OMG - we are all fucked up - Planet X is a giant Space-Dödel with balls.

nibidick

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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OMG - we are all fucked up - Planet X is a giant Space-Dödel with balls.

:nibidick:

 Quoting: Hydra


laugh laugh laugh laugh

Nancy's Comment (corrected):
I think that .. the Ecliptic is straight across or even slightly tilted from uppper left to lower right. Dramatic. ... Superb! The vertical line down through is a ... camera. It is . common flare. There . also . little red dot that zings.... .also . flare. The golden globes are .. flares.

1rof1

Nancy is latching onto anything now in hopes it will stop the dwindling numbers in followers.
People are waking up to her.
 Quoting: Wispa


^^
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Well, alas, it seems I am still banned -- 74444 here at a public terminal, but can't get on back at my place. Sorry I can't help out whacking the moles, but hopefully will be back sometime when my IP gets unbanned.

Still, cheering from the sidelines.
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Planet X in Germany:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

Nancy's Comment:
I think that's PX itself! 4-5 o'clock and at 2:00 pm the Ecliptic is straight across or even slightly tilted from uppper left to lower right. Dramatic. Excellent capture! Superb! The vertical line down through the Sun is a reaction of the camera to intense light. It is a common flare. There is also a little red dot that zings around as the camera moves, also a flare. The golden globes are NOT flares.


OMG - we are all fucked up - Planet X is a giant Space-Dödel with balls.

nibidick

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OMG!!!!!!!!! Are they for real?
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Planet X in Germany:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

Nancy's Comment:
I think that's PX itself! 4-5 o'clock and at 2:00 pm the Ecliptic is straight across or even slightly tilted from uppper left to lower right. Dramatic. Excellent capture! Superb! The vertical line down through the Sun is a reaction of the camera to intense light. It is a common flare. There is also a little red dot that zings around as the camera moves, also a flare. The golden globes are NOT flares.


OMG - we are all fucked up - Planet X is a giant Space-Dödel with balls.

:nibidick:

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OMG!!!!!!!!! Are they for real?
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Ahhh, pink ribbon, must be cancer awareness week on PX!!

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Planet X in Germany:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]

Nancy's Comment:
I think that's PX itself! 4-5 o'clock and at 2:00 pm the Ecliptic is straight across or even slightly tilted from uppper left to lower right. Dramatic. Excellent capture! Superb! The vertical line down through the Sun is a reaction of the camera to intense light. It is a common flare. There is also a little red dot that zings around as the camera moves, also a flare. The golden globes are NOT flares.


OMG - we are all fucked up - Planet X is a giant Space-Dödel with balls.

:nibidick:

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OMG!!!!!!!!! Are they for real?
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Idiotic! Those "objects" jump all around and grow, etc.
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Years ago someone submitted a photo of a kite and asked Nancy if it was planet x. I think her answer was that it was a moon swirl. She even posted the moon swirl photo on her site with a bunch of other joke photos and those super intelligent zetas didn't tell her they were hoaxes. Some of the people that sent her photos even admitted that they sent them to see if she would check them out before using to fool others. Some of those photos remained on her site for years as evidence of planet x. Some of them might even still be up. Nancy never changes and never learns from her gaffes!
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Years ago someone submitted a photo of a kite and asked Nancy if it was planet x. I think her answer was that it was a moon swirl. She even posted the moon swirl photo on her site with a bunch of other joke photos and those super intelligent zetas didn't tell her they were hoaxes. Some of the people that sent her photos even admitted that they sent them to see if she would check them out before using to fool others. Some of those photos remained on her site for years as evidence of planet x. Some of them might even still be up. Nancy never changes and never learns from her gaffes!
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Funny stuff !
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Here it is!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Years ago someone submitted a photo of a kite and asked Nancy if it was planet x. I think her answer was that it was a moon swirl. She even posted the moon swirl photo on her site with a bunch of other joke photos and those super intelligent zetas didn't tell her they were hoaxes. Some of the people that sent her photos even admitted that they sent them to see if she would check them out before using to fool others. Some of those photos remained on her site for years as evidence of planet x. Some of them might even still be up. Nancy never changes and never learns from her gaffes!
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Funny stuff !
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I could tell that was a kite from the moment the pic opened. Lol
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Years ago someone submitted a photo of a kite and asked Nancy if it was planet x. I think her answer was that it was a moon swirl. She even posted the moon swirl photo on her site with a bunch of other joke photos and those super intelligent zetas didn't tell her they were hoaxes. Some of the people that sent her photos even admitted that they sent them to see if she would check them out before using to fool others. Some of those photos remained on her site for years as evidence of planet x. Some of them might even still be up. Nancy never changes and never learns from her gaffes!
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I'm trying to remember who it was that sent it in- was one of the regular debunkers, but their name escapes me atm
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Years ago someone submitted a photo of a kite and asked Nancy if it was planet x. I think her answer was that it was a moon swirl. She even posted the moon swirl photo on her site with a bunch of other joke photos and those super intelligent zetas didn't tell her they were hoaxes. Some of the people that sent her photos even admitted that they sent them to see if she would check them out before using to fool others. Some of those photos remained on her site for years as evidence of planet x. Some of them might even still be up. Nancy never changes and never learns from her gaffes!
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[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Funny stuff !
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Love the corrections/excuses after the fact.

And, hey, I can post again!
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7 of 10 STATUS as of March 7, 2013
Posted by Nancy Lieder on March 7, 2013 at 1:18pm
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

"On February 14-15, 2013 the Earth sustained a bolide blitz, with bolides reported in Cuba, Russia, and San Francisco Bay. These bolides were clearly debris from the tail of Planet X, as they came from the direction of the Sun..."

And Flareberto has it all on his floppy!

Muahhh!


Why don't we have the bolides since 2003 as Planet X is around the sun since 2003?


And continued:
"For those who fear an extinction level event may be in the offing, the Zetas have stated that the Council of Worlds would not allow the Earth to be destroyed in this manner."

But exterminating 90 percent of Earth population by a pole shift is ok for the CoW (Council of Worlds / Crazy old Woman).

LOL


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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1doh1 oh lawrd... here an excerpt of Ann S' latest Dr.Astro-obsession:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
For someone who swore up and down last year that he had to for the most part stop posting online due to allged death threats, Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) sure is busy at GLP.

The likely reason for Dr. Astro's return to the stage: He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru.

Don't know if someone has posted this on the PS ning yet, but Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement,
where he is correctly identified as a "layman naysayer" (around 4:19 in the video). Please note Nancy Lieder posted this on YouTube before the announcement, not after.

 Quoting: ann s.:2342


Ann, seriously, take a timeout... or do whatever is necessary to stop this irrational wish-wash.

Why Dr.Astro?? I mean he hasnt even been very active here recently?! wtf?
"He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru."
"Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement"


BS!
Astro openly offers people to reproduce his claims and findings besides he's obviously busy educating people elsewhere on his matter.

What the fu is your problem with him??
His approach is transparent, solid and reproducable. What is wrong with it??

Maybe because it doesn't support your PX-phantasies? That earth is supposedly halted in its orbit? Two-planets-one-cup theory?

Seriously.. Maybe you will find out one day that the only problem you have is your stubborn beliefsystem and his approaches stand in direct contrast to it.

"Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement"

wtf?? Lists with people who are to be trusted and not to be trusted and you be the judge? Seriously?
damned

And when will you ever realize that the whole announcement was nothing but another crapola to keep you constantly waiting??

Doesnt PX need to have lingered here long enough to leave some unmistakable marks?


GAL....it is time,

time to leave the dreams behind.
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1doh1 oh lawrd... here an excerpt of Ann S' latest Dr.Astro-obsession:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
For someone who swore up and down last year that he had to for the most part stop posting online due to allged death threats, Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) sure is busy at GLP.

The likely reason for Dr. Astro's return to the stage: He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru.

Don't know if someone has posted this on the PS ning yet, but Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement,
where he is correctly identified as a "layman naysayer" (around 4:19 in the video). Please note Nancy Lieder posted this on YouTube before the announcement, not after.

 Quoting: ann s.:2342


Ann, seriously, take a timeout... or do whatever is necessary to stop this irrational wish-wash.

Why Dr.Astro?? I mean he hasnt even been very active here recently?! wtf?
"He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru."
"Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement"


BS!
Astro openly offers people to reproduce his claims and findings besides he's obviously busy educating people elsewhere on his matter.

What the fu is your problem with him??
His approach is transparent, solid and reproducable. What is wrong with it??

Maybe because it doesn't support your PX-phantasies? That earth is supposedly halted in its orbit? Two-planets-one-cup theory?

Seriously.. Maybe you will find out one day that the only problem you have is your stubborn beliefsystem and his approaches stand in direct contrast to it.

"Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement"

wtf?? Lists with people who are to be trusted and not to be trusted and you be the judge? Seriously?
damned

And when will you ever realize that the whole announcement was nothing but another crapola to keep you constantly waiting??

Doesnt PX need to have lingered here long enough to leave some unmistakable marks?


GAL....it is time,

time to leave the dreams behind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35754533


My question to Ann would be simple.

How long does "pending" have to continue before she can provisionally conclude that such an announcement is "never" coming?

End of the year?

After Obama is out of office?

A decade?

Two?

Of course, she will never answer this.
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1doh1 oh lawrd... here an excerpt of Ann S' latest Dr.Astro-obsession:
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Wow, I must really be a threat to them.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
For someone who swore up and down last year that he had to for the most part stop posting online due to allged death threats, Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) sure is busy at GLP.

The likely reason for Dr. Astro's return to the stage: He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru.

Don't know if someone has posted this on the PS ning yet, but Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement,
where he is correctly identified as a "layman naysayer" (around 4:19 in the video). Please note Nancy Lieder posted this on YouTube before the announcement, not after.


 Quoting: ann s.:2342


Ann, seriously, take a timeout... or do whatever is necessary to stop this irrational wish-wash.

Why Dr.Astro?? I mean he hasnt even been very active here recently?! wtf?
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Ann, since my life was threatened, I started taking steps to increase my personal security. I've reported the threats to law enforcement, but I've decided not to stop there and not to run away. One aspect is that it involves more time spent at the gun range. That is not to develop proficiency, that is to restore and maintain proficiency already developed over decades of practice. I've been doing this even longer than I've been doing amateur astronomy, so you don't have to worry about my safety Ann. You should be worried about the safety of the poor bastard who tries to harm me. I no longer leave the house unarmed.

I haven't been that active debunking poleshift related claims lately though. So what could it be that set her off? I did a little comet identification contest for fun, but that didn't debunk anything. I did a thread and video about a comet that might hit mars, but that didn't debunk anything. I debunked some silliness involving earth, mercury, and the beehive cluster on stereo HI1, and some silliness involving a webcam in alaska, but neither had anything to do with poleshift claims.

The only thing I've done in the last few weeks debunking anything that could get Ann's nose bent out of shape would be my threads on calculating the position and orientation of the moon (which also ended up humiliating IDW). That's some good stuff, isn't it Ann? Works darn good, doesn't it? It flies in the face of your cult's claim that the moon looks "odd" ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] ). And best of all, anyone can see that I'm not a "shill" when they examine it; there's no conspiracy there, and the equations are all visible so no one can claim that the math has been altered to hide the oddity.

"He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru."
"Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement"


BS!
Astro openly offers people to reproduce his claims and findings besides he's obviously busy educating people elsewhere on his matter.

What the fu is your problem with him??
His approach is transparent, solid and reproducable. What is wrong with it??

Maybe because it doesn't support your PX-phantasies? That earth is supposedly halted in its orbit? Two-planets-one-cup theory?

Seriously.. Maybe you will find out one day that the only problem you have is your stubborn beliefsystem and his approaches stand in direct contrast to it.
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Well said, thank you! I presented my findings transparently and reproducibly. I challenge ANY zetatalk believer to produce a spreadsheet with calculations that show what the moon should look like and that it shouldn't appear to "tilt" in the manner depicted in Nancy's trace contour filtered photographs.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

According to my spreadsheet, the moon SHOULD have been tilted from vertical by about 44 degrees with the illuminated portion facing down towards the horizon as seen from the eastern netherlands at 00:53:55 CET, which is exactly what is seen in the photo. And by the same spreadsheet, the photograph on the far left taken at 4:17:51 CET should have been about 5 degrees tilted from vertical, facing down towards the horizon slightly, which is also what is seen in the photograph.

You can use this same spreadsheet to predict the appearance of the moon from any given location at any time, as I demonstrated using the photograph from 1971.

It works, consistently, in direct contradiction to Nancy's claims. I guess that's what makes me such a threat to people like Ann.

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1doh1 oh lawrd... here an excerpt of Ann S' latest Dr.Astro-obsession:
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Wow, I must really be a threat to them.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
For someone who swore up and down last year that he had to for the most part stop posting online due to allged death threats, Dr. Astro (a/k/a Astromut) sure is busy at GLP.

The likely reason for Dr. Astro's return to the stage: He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru.

Don't know if someone has posted this on the PS ning yet, but Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement,
where he is correctly identified as a "layman naysayer" (around 4:19 in the video). Please note Nancy Lieder posted this on YouTube before the announcement, not after.


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Ann, seriously, take a timeout... or do whatever is necessary to stop this irrational wish-wash.

Why Dr.Astro?? I mean he hasnt even been very active here recently?! wtf?
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Ann, since my life was threatened, I started taking steps to increase my personal security. I've reported the threats to law enforcement, but I've decided not to stop there and not to run away. One aspect is that it involves more time spent at the gun range. That is not to develop proficiency, that is to restore and maintain proficiency already developed over decades of practice. I've been doing this even longer than I've been doing amateur astronomy, so you don't have to worry about my safety Ann. You should be worried about the safety of the poor bastard who tries to harm me. I no longer leave the house unarmed.

I haven't been that active debunking poleshift related claims lately though. So what could it be that set her off? I did a little comet identification contest for fun, but that didn't debunk anything. I did a thread and video about a comet that might hit mars, but that didn't debunk anything. I debunked some silliness involving earth, mercury, and the beehive cluster on stereo HI1, and some silliness involving a webcam in alaska, but neither had anything to do with poleshift claims.

The only thing I've done in the last few weeks debunking anything that could get Ann's nose bent out of shape would be my threads on calculating the position and orientation of the moon (which also ended up humiliating IDW). That's some good stuff, isn't it Ann? Works darn good, doesn't it? It flies in the face of your cult's claim that the moon looks "odd" ( [link to www.zetatalk.com] ). And best of all, anyone can see that I'm not a "shill" when they examine it; there's no conspiracy there, and the equations are all visible so no one can claim that the math has been altered to hide the oddity.

"He is a shill (paid or unpaid, does not matter) who debunks the presence of Planet X/Nibiru."
"Dr. Astro is on a list of people NOT to trust after the (pending) announcement"


BS!
Astro openly offers people to reproduce his claims and findings besides he's obviously busy educating people elsewhere on his matter.

What the fu is your problem with him??
His approach is transparent, solid and reproducable. What is wrong with it??

Maybe because it doesn't support your PX-phantasies? That earth is supposedly halted in its orbit? Two-planets-one-cup theory?

Seriously.. Maybe you will find out one day that the only problem you have is your stubborn beliefsystem and his approaches stand in direct contrast to it.
 Quoting: AC


Well said, thank you! I presented my findings transparently and reproducibly. I challenge ANY zetatalk believer to produce a spreadsheet with calculations that show what the moon should look like and that it shouldn't appear to "tilt" in the manner depicted in Nancy's trace contour filtered photographs.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

According to my spreadsheet, the moon SHOULD have been tilted from vertical by about 44 degrees with the illuminated portion facing down towards the horizon as seen from the eastern netherlands at 00:53:55 CET, which is exactly what is seen in the photo. And by the same spreadsheet, the photograph on the far left taken at 4:17:51 CET should have been about 5 degrees tilted from vertical, facing down towards the horizon slightly, which is also what is seen in the photograph.

You can use this same spreadsheet to predict the appearance of the moon from any given location at any time, as I demonstrated using the photograph from 1971.

It works, consistently, in direct contradiction to Nancy's claims. I guess that's what makes me such a threat to people like Ann.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


FACTS make you such a threat to people like Ann.

Your ability to express them and prove them makes you more formidable still.
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its interesting to see the forum owners `take' on this supposed dos attack- as its apparently not only restricted to glp (and even other conspiracy sites) but is widespread (my usual science forum haunts, 3 of the 5 are currently under the same form of attack

So apparently the PTB are anti science as well as anti conspiracy
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I just had a great laugh. Ann S. aka former Astropill forgot to take her pills again. Sometimes I ask myself what is going on in the retarded heads of these mindfucking woo-woo-cult-people.

They are for sure brainwashed and crazy Nancy made some walking deads out of them: but they must have been insane before. They are watching the world through old floppy-disks and are adoring SDO-pictures (former Soho) they have never understood. These people really live a second life in a second life: a religion of lenseflares (thanks to Flareberto), mental abuse and some crazy aliens invented by an old insane woman.

And as all the predictions fail and fail, they invent more and more crazy stories to keep themselves entertained. First of all they hate all kind of facts. A sect lives in a strong system of superstition, so facts are always egg on their face. That is the reason why they hate people like Doc Astro who is doing a great job here and sometimes showing them their ridiculous point of view. In a censored place where brainwashing is the daily business nobody wants to hear some facts about reality. They want to dream and wait and wait.

And now they attack the owner of this page again. The whole scenario sounds worse than every James Bond movie. I think it is very hard to face the truth for some cult-people who live in a brainwashed world. And the jackass-story they invented about Trinity is a shame. We all know that they`ve lost every connection to reality and try to make up some new fantastic fairy tales to keep themselves entertained.

The reason for this is that their reality is rather odd. All the predictions permanently fail. Indonesia has never heard about crazy Nancy and her brainwashed woo-woos. All the astronomic events happened as predicted decades ago. Crazy Nancy doesn`t miss any epic fail available. Obama has never heard about Nancytalk or Nobeeryou. So what should he announce? And of course there was no announcement and there will never be one. I guess deep inside of their hearts they also know that they are completely fucked up in the brainwashing machine of their cult. But they can`t admit it.

If they want to play Science-Fiction why do they not buy some modern computer games. These could keep them entertained and busy too. The reality factor would be the same as with their Nobeeryou. And they wouldn`t have to bash real people like the owner of this page or some other officials who know what they are: a ridiculous cult. How many more years do the last few crazy followers want to wait? One, five, ten? In May they can happily celebrate their 10th anniversary of Nobeeryou, the once and only planet which ever halted in its orbit for around a decade (in their fantasy). This month the cult people could celebrate nearly two and a half years seven of ten, a fairy tale which proved to be a nonevent. So Nancy Liar and Ann S. could get the real cheerleaders of downright nonsense. So at least something in their lives is real.

Here I still remember one of the crazy predictions of Nancy Liar back in 2011. She claimed that these part of Indonesia was deep under water. She probably got a fury when she had to find out that there are some webcams in this part of Indonesia. The good old hotel Poppies in Bali! And now what?

People from all over the world are still enjoying relaxed holidays there. This is the difference between some cult-visions and reality. Reality is real.

[link to www.poppies.net]

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All I can say to Ann is: "When, Ann?" WHEN is the big announcement going to happen? My prediction is that it will be just like the big 2010 "7 of 10 shock the world" event that NEVER happened.

Ann, why don't you just STFU until that announcement actually happens instead the constant braying about what you claim will be the result of that announcement? Ann, one more thing... BITE ME!
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All I can say to Ann is: "When, Ann?" WHEN is the big announcement going to happen? My prediction is that it will be just like the big 2010 "7 of 10 shock the world" event that NEVER happened.

Ann, why don't you just STFU until that announcement actually happens instead the constant braying about what you claim will be the result of that announcement? Ann, one more thing... BITE ME!
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Pending = soon (i.e., never)
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Now Ann is over there on the ning claiming that Zetatalk supporters are not ALLOWED to post here. Heh... nice dodge, Ann- keeps you from having to answer any challenges to the tripe you post over there.

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Ann... don't forget to BITE ME!


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